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Ibeatyouraces
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January 20th, 2013 at 9:24:31 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
Buzzard
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January 21st, 2013 at 7:28:52 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Some of us know how to get paid to watch that movie and not pay to watch it.




Amen, Brother !
Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet
deedubbs
deedubbs
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January 22nd, 2013 at 4:50:24 PM permalink
Quote: treetopbuddy

I'm am 100% sure that nobody in this forum is making serious money playing any game.



The words "serious" and "money" are important. I don't consider myself an advantage player, but I do my best to exploit promos, signups, match play coupons, tax refund check cashing, and the like. Do I make "serious money?" Absolutely not. Do I usually eek out a small profit, which subsidies my love of low-rolling $3 craps? Absolutely.

In the strict sense, APs only care about money, but more recreational gamblers (like me), care about money, utility, and entertainment. Reading thoughtful debates about math is entertaining, so is trying to get a free ride.

For example, before I went to Vegas last Christmas, I exploited a food drive promotion at my local casino where you go $5 in free slot play per can of food donated. Corn is about 50 cent a can, the EV is about $4.50/can and you could do 3/day for a week. I think it's fun, so I don't consider the opportunity cost of my time. Beside, they have free self-serve coffee, so add another $2 value per trip. I did that for 5 days and netted about $80. The I bought an American Casino Guide for $12 and several of the match plays and other signup bonuses, which got my to about $150 with little/no risk.

With that $150 I can expect to play $3 craps with pass line bets and occasional odds, drink heavily, tip dealers, tip waitresses and high-five strangers for a few hours.

Again, this is not serious money. However, it feeds my ego, knowing that I'm one of the few who gets a free ride. You may argue that the free ride is not worth the opportunity cost of my time, but you you can't make that argument without knowing my the utility that I derive from the process. I know myself and how I value those things and I know that it is positive EV.

Call it whatever you want. I'll make the "serious money" at work and by maxing out my Roth, 401k, etc.

Meanwhile, I'll just keep having fun.
Canyonero
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January 27th, 2013 at 11:36:42 AM permalink
Hey, after getting an idea about what is going on at Casinomeister, I must say once more WoV is a pretty cool community. Come to think of it, mutual admiration seems like a pretty good foundation for a community like this, even if OP meant that derogatory.

Also I remember a brief stint at the 2+2 forums I would summarize like this:

"Me: Hey guys, I am an avid poker player and new to the forum, just wanted to say hi!

Froum Member X: Fuck you! I am better than you! You know nothing!"

(Dramatization, actual forum posts may have been different. Forum Member X not an actual forum handle.)


Anyway, I like it here, good job Mike, mods and regulars!
Mosca
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January 27th, 2013 at 1:18:23 PM permalink
I've said my piece often enough that I've pretty much retired it, but for this thread I'll say it again: I gamble for fun. I make far more by going to work. WoO and WoV allow me to extend my entertainment budget, and allow me to play carny games with my eyes open. I don't understand why the site or the people here are required to conform to someone else's idea of what either should be, and I don't think the site or the people here need to justify their existence beyond being what they are.
NO KILL I
tringlomane
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January 27th, 2013 at 2:30:39 PM permalink
Quote: Canyonero


Also I remember a brief stint at the 2+2 forums I would summarize like this:

"Me: Hey guys, I am an avid poker player and new to the forum, just wanted to say hi!

Froum Member X: Fuck you! I am better than you! You know nothing!"

(Dramatization, actual forum posts may have been different. Forum Member X not an actual forum handle.)


Anyway, I like it here, good job Mike, mods and regulars!



Yeah, some sections of 2+2 are like that. Sections that have more teen/20-something players who think the only poker game that exists is NLHE generally suffer from this problem more. The sections that I regularly post in are usually NOT this way.
Mission146
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January 28th, 2013 at 2:22:42 PM permalink
Quote: Canyonero



Anyway, I like it here, good job Mike, mods and regulars!



Much appreciated! We like having you here!
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
DorothyGale
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January 28th, 2013 at 2:48:56 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

We like having you here!

With a fine Chianti?
"Who would have thought a good little girl like you could destroy my beautiful wickedness!"
Mission146
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January 28th, 2013 at 5:24:08 PM permalink
And some Fava Beans, nice to see you, DorothyGale!
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219

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