I have always been curious if I should just throw $20 or so in a machine and pull it once or just play it all out in the penny denominations. I understand the expected comps would be far greater with long play

So, you will do better playing one big spin at a high denomination. Of course, the variance will be huge. You may have more fun playing a bunch of small spins.

On your machine, are all of the payouts and bonus in direct proportion to the amount bet?

If they are, then the ER should be the same.

Otherwise, obviously play the one with the higher ER.

Quote:I understand the expected comps would be far greater with long play

I am under the impression that it's the total amount bet, and not the time, that determines the comps. Otherwise, what stops somebody from spending hours playing one line per spin on a penny or nickel slot, and then claiming comps with a higher value than the total bet? (If you slow down to one spin every 10 seconds on a nickel slot, that's $18/hour bet.)

Quote:ThatDonGuyIt depends.

On your machine, are all of the payouts and bonus in direct proportion to the amount bet?

If they are, then the ER should be the same.

Otherwise, obviously play the one with the higher ER.

I am under the impression that it's the total amount bet, and not the time, that determines the comps. Otherwise, what stops somebody from spending hours playing one line per spin on a penny or nickel slot, and then claiming comps with a higher value than the total bet? (If you slow down to one spin every 10 seconds on a nickel slot, that's $18/hour bet.)

I agree that comps are based on total coin in. I also assumed that playing 1 spin for $20 will result in a ruin or a win that you would cash out. If, however, you play penny games, you will likely win small prizes along the way and will wind up wagering several times the initial $20. Also, you likely won't ever be up enough to entice you to cash out.

The 1 cent play is for getting alcohol "comps."

Quote:It depends.

On your machine, are all of the payouts and bonus in direct proportion to the amount bet?

If they are, then the ER should be the same.

Otherwise, obviously play the one with the higher ER.

Say that both denominations are equal multipliers in payouts and bonuses.. is it better to play for 1 spin? 100? 1000?

EDIT: (not sure if comps should can be figured into this as I'm not sure the rule of thumb for calculating them)

Quote:I am under the impression that it's the total amount bet, and not the time, that determines the comps. Otherwise, what stops somebody from spending hours playing one line per spin on a penny or nickel slot, and then claiming comps with a higher value than the total bet? (If you slow down to one spin every 10 seconds on a nickel slot, that's $18/hour bet.)

My theory on this is that rarely will you lose every single spin and ruin betting small. You will have ups and downs that will accumulate more total money played. By playing more than the starting amount, you are guaranteed comps of at least what you started with plus any plays on additional small wins, thus giving you more comps.

Quote:ajemeisterSay that both denominations are equal multipliers in payouts and bonuses.. is it better to play for 1 spin? 100? 1000?

EDIT: (not sure if comps should can be figured into this as I'm not sure the rule of thumb for calculating them)

My theory on this is that rarely will you lose every single spin and ruin betting small. You will have ups and downs that will accumulate more total money played. By playing more than the starting amount, you are guaranteed comps of at least what you started with plus any plays on additional small wins, thus giving you more comps.

If you're playing a game with a 90% average return, you're worse off the more you play. After 1 spin of $100, you expect to have $90. After 1000 spins of $1, you expect to have 0 (actually, you'd have to stop spinning after 990 tries - you'd be under $1).