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April 17th, 2012 at 2:38:56 PM permalink
Again, thanks to everyone for the advice.

If there's one thing I've learned by going to Vegas is to look for information before the trip. You've all helped a great deal.
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April 18th, 2012 at 1:49:45 PM permalink
I'm late to this thread...

I really like the TI daily tournaments. They go quick but not too quick and run multiple times a day. Usually 2-3 tables of players and re-entry was allowed the last time I played it. I think the buyin is $60.

Another site with listings: www.allvegaspoker.com
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April 18th, 2012 at 2:00:20 PM permalink
Quote: slyther

I'm late to this thread...
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Another site with listings: www.allvegaspoker.com



It's never too late.

Thanks for the link. It looks interesting. You can't have too much information, either.
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April 19th, 2012 at 1:41:16 PM permalink
I've been looking through the avrious sites so kindly provided on this thread. They're all quite informative. However, I want to reiterate DJ's advice to also check the hotel's website for details, as they may differ slightly from what's posted on the other sites. I've found no major differences as yet, but some buy-in prices were off by $5 or $10 in some cases.

Also, does anyone know anything at all about craps tournaments? I think the Riviera offers a regular one. I'm not looking to enter one, or not until I find more information on them. It strikes me that strategy for a crpas toruney would be more complicated than pass line +odds and come +odds.

Thanks.
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April 30th, 2012 at 7:13:17 AM permalink
After all due consideration (of sorts, at any rate), I've decided to try a small, cheap tourney first. In this case it will likely be Bill's $30 at 2:30 PM next Monday May 7th, assuming I'm free by then and can sign up in time (I've plans for that morning). Another possibility is IP for $40 at 3:00 PM

This means diving right into a tournament with zero experience in Vegas poker rooms and with a very rusty command of NL Hold 'Em. What could possibly go wrong? But all joking aside, I find such direct, to the point, bull-by-the-horns action works better for me lately.

On other things, when looking through different information on different casinos, I've found some feature an ante after a few rounds. I gather this is a regular kind of ante, where every player has to put in the same amount prior to the cards beaing dealt. I gather, too, this is in addition to the blinds. Now, is this a good, bad or neutral thing? On the one hand it means a richer pot, on the other hand it may not be good if you're running low on chips. any info would be appreciated.
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April 30th, 2012 at 8:15:06 AM permalink
Antes are there to help move the action along. Every player puts in the ante, including those obligated to pay a blind. In these short crapshoot type tournaments the antes force the action and you will have to open up and play 'faster'.

A good measure of where you stand is the "M" which is your chip count divided by the total amount is costs you in blinds and antes to play 1 orbit. Typically when your M is single digits you need to be considering 'shove or fold' pre-flop. However in these shorter tournaments you will find your M is not often far above single digits so you can't always go by the book.

The Bill's tourney is very short. If you are willing to play for a slightly higher buyin, I recommend the TI tourneys which run multiple times a day for $50 buyin.
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April 30th, 2012 at 11:53:49 AM permalink
Thanks for the info!

Quote: slyther

The Bill's tourney is very short. If you are willing to play for a slightly higher buyin, I recommend the TI tourneys which run multiple times a day for $50 buyin.



I was eyeing the Harrah's and Golden Nugget tourneys. But since it's my first and I'm rather inexperienced, I thought I'd go with a bargain first.
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April 30th, 2012 at 1:06:40 PM permalink
You should probably stay away from most Harrah's tournaments... they usually have a ridiculously large "entry fee" that never gets refunded to the player. My guess is that "$50" tournament is either a 35+10+5 (meaning 30 to the pool, 10 to the entry fee and 5 to the dealers) or the actual cost to get into the tournament is $65. Either way, you're paying a lot more to win less. Since the tournament is a crapshoot, very little skill will come into play, making it a slightly better option than a slot machine.
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April 30th, 2012 at 1:41:04 PM permalink
Quote: Tiltpoul

You should probably stay away from most Harrah's tournaments... they usually have a ridiculously large "entry fee" that never gets refunded to the player. My guess is that "$50" tournament is either a 35+10+5 (meaning 30 to the pool, 10 to the entry fee and 5 to the dealers) or the actual cost to get into the tournament is $65. Either way, you're paying a lot more to win less. Since the tournament is a crapshoot, very little skill will come into play, making it a slightly better option than a slot machine.



While I agree with the general sentiment to keep an eye on the entry fees, I don't think it is valid to single out Harrah's properties as being "ridiculously large." In my experience, the entry fee is a strong function of the cost of the tournament. Low budget tourneys with $40-60 total buy-in generally have entry fees of 25-30% I prefer to play tournaments with total buy-in in the neighborhood of $100-150, as these typically have entry fees of 15-20%.

The $50 tourney at TI which I see recommended above has a $13 entry fee (26%). The $60 tourney at Harrah's has a $17 entry fee (28.3%). The $80 tourney at Harrah's has a $20 entry fee (25%). I don't think there is sufficient variation in these numbers to warrant discrimination.
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April 30th, 2012 at 2:45:12 PM permalink
Check the link Slyther so kindly provided to allvegaspoker.com. The fees are broken down by how much goes to the house. Just click on each tourney for details.
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