Haha, that was good.Quote: IbeatyouracesRhythms :-)
Quote: AyecarumbaIs "rhythm" the longest word without one of the five common vowels?
When I saw rdw's Rhythm City chip post, I too thought about the word "rhythm", but this wasn't quite the question that came to my mind. How about this one: How many syllables do you feel there are in "rhythm"? I don't mean "Look it up in a dictionary," but just say it and state how many syllables you hear. Is it a different number than you hear in the word "prison"?
I think I hear two syllables in each of those words, but I thought there had to be a vowel in every syllable in English, which is what I was thinking about after reading rdw's post.
I don't know if it is the longest but a 5 letter word with no vowels or y's is Crwth which is a scottish instrument related to a lyre.
Info found from the Internet of things.
I would post a Welsh ALF video to celebrate this but I think I posted it once and I hate to recycle old material :(
I think there are two syllables. Is it pronounced differently depending on the region the speaker is from? Perhaps it is like "laboratory"?Quote: DocWhen I saw rdw's Rhythm City chip post, I too thought about the word "rhythm", but this wasn't quite the question that came to my mind. How about this one: How many syllables do you feel there are in "rhythm"? I don't mean "Look it up in a dictionary," but just say it and state how many syllables you hear. Is it a different number than you hear in the word "prison"?
I think I hear two syllables in each of those words, but I thought there had to be a vowel in every syllable in English, which is what I was thinking about after reading rdw's post.
What is the definition? I would use "I's" instead of "y's" to pronounce it.Quote: Perdition"Twyndyllyngs is the longest word in English that doesn't contain one of the five vowels (AEIOU). It comes from Welsh and is obviously rare, but it does appear in the Oxford English Dictionary."
Quote: AyecarumbaWhat is the definition? I would use "I's" instead of "y's" to pronounce it.
It was an upjumped way of saying twin. They might have called them twinlings back then which would make it phonetically closer.
Quote: rdw4potus...but I really couldn't think straight at all. I left my car in the parking lot and took a cab to the hotel, and I'm sure that cabbie thought I was drunk...
Wow I know that feeling of when you're really tired but still at a table. if your fatigue was caused by your long/extended routes to collect chips then maybe you should be less aggressive when planning?
City: Riverside
Casino: Riverside
Today's chip comes from the Riverside casino in Riverside, IA. Riverside is about 15 miles south of Iowa City, on US218. The casino has 1,150 machines and 38 tables on a 58,000 square foot gaming floor. Table games include: blackjack, craps, roulette, pai gow poker, and 3 card poker. There's also a poker room with about a dozen tables. I'm not sure if those tables are included in the 38 table total or not.
Here's a picture of the casino:
Riverside is an interesting property. It's close to a college town (the University of Iowa is in Iowa City), so there's a young crowd in the casino all the time. But, the golf course and spa also draw in an older and more affluent audience. The two groups seem to coexist relatively well, but it leaves Riverside without a singular identity. It's instead left trying to support a party atmosphere without being so loud or edgy that the golf and spa crowd are chased away. I've been to the property twice, once on a sunday morning and once on a tuesday night. It was busier than I expected both times.
I collected my chip on my first visit to the property, which was the Sunday morning stop. I'd left Davenport a short time prior after rescuing my car from the lot at Rhythm City. I played BJ to collect my chip. It was a 21+3 game, and I think this was the first time I'd seen that side bet. Nobody was playing it, which struck me as odd. I remember thinking at the time that it was odd that all those different triggering hands paid 9:1. Now, I think that's a much better paytable than the Extreme version.
My chip from Riverside is an RT Plastics product. It's pretty plain. But, I do really like the cursive R in the background of the inlay.
;-)
Quote: DocI think so -- by a very circuitous water route.
;-)
nope Colorado R. dries up before it reaches the ocean
City: Osceola
Casino: Terrible's Lakeside
Today's chip of the day comes from Terrible's Lakeside in Osceola, IA. Terrible's Lakeside operated from 2006 to 2011. After 2011, the property became the Lakeside Hotel and Casino. I posted the chip for that property a few days ago.
My chip from Terrible's Lakeside is a Paulson RHC. As I briefly mentioned earlier in this thread, it looks very similar to the chips from the various other Terrible's properties.
City: Clinton
Casino: Wild Rose
Today's chip of the day comes from the Wild Rose in Clinton, IA. Clinton is on the Mississippi River. It's about 30 miles north of the Quad Cities, where US30 crosses the river. Wild Rose is quite small. It has 570 machines and 15 tables on a 22,000 square foot gaming floor. Table games include blackjack, craps, roulette, pai gow poker, ultimate texas hold'em, and let it ride.
Here's a picture of the property:
It's funny - the Wild Rose in Emmetsburg opened in 2006 and feels quite new. The Wild Rose in Clinton opened in 2008 and feels quite dated. I do think it's supposed to feel homey, but it also shows many signs of age. Clinton is between Dubuque and Bettendorf, and I visited this casino in between stops at Diamond Jo and the Isle of Capri.
I collected my chip by playing craps. That's far from my favorite game, but the dealers were vocal about being bored at an empty table. They were basically mocking those pushy kiosk salespeople at the mall. Some of their shtick got so funny that I played with them for a few minutes. My table minimum PL + 2x odds play didn't make any of us any money, but it was a fun way to kill a half hour.
My chip from the Wild Rose in Clinton is a Paulson RHC. I like the Wild Rose Casino & Resort tradestyle. That's about how the property felt as well.
City: Emmetsburg
Casino: Wild Rose
Today's chip of the day comes from the Wild Rose casino in Emmetsburg, IA. Emmetsburg is in a pretty rural area in north central Iowa. It's on US18, about halfway between US71 and US 169. The Wild Rose has 520 slots and 17 tables on a 16,500 square foot gaming floor. Table games include blackjack, craps, roulette, pai gow poker, and texas hold'em bonus. There is also video mississippi stud and 3 card poker.
Here's a picture of the casino:
This casino, and the Diamond Jo in Northwood, confuses me. It's corporately owned, in Iowa, and on land. I thought only two of those things could be true. The Wild Rose in Emmetsburg has some of the nicest staff I've ever met. The security guy at the front door thanked me for visiting and shook my hand. Everybody said hello, and everybody said thank you. I'd just returned from Vegas when I ran down from Minneapolis to Emmetsburg to collect this chip, and the friendliness was a big change from what I'd just experienced.
I played pai gow poker to collect my chip. I walked into the casino with a pocketful of money, and I left with this $5 chip. The session was fun but frustrating. The other players were great, the dealer was fast and talkative, and the game kept slowly separating me from my money. I suppose it looked about like it should have - a sine wave shape centered on a downward sloping line.
My chip from the Wild Rose in Emmetsburg is listed by the MOGH as a "China" mold. I haven't heard of that company before. Have we looked at their chips?
Iowa changed their regulations in 1994 to allow, "dry docking" of the riverboats, and lately seems to have removed the "on water" regulation completely. Read an article from last year on the state of Iowa's casino business Here.Quote: rdw4potusState: Iowa
City: Emmetsburg
Casino: Wild Rose
...This casino, and the Diamond Jo in Northwood, confuses me. It's corporately owned, in Iowa, and on land. I thought only two of those things could be true.
Quote: Cigar Aficionado Magazine...Though a dozen or so companies have made chips over the last century, each with its own distinctive mold designs, only seven supply U.S. casinos today: Paul-Son Gaming Supplies, the Bud Jones Co. and R.T. Plastics, all three of which are based in Las Vegas; Chipco International, which is based in Windham, Maine; T.R. King, of Los Angeles; Atlantic Molding, of Portland, Maine; and Reliable, of Frazier Park, California...
As for R.T. Plastics, they are still showing up as a current company in downtown Las Vegas, so I believe they are still open. Not much easily located on the web. Maybe someone can stop by their offices and pick up a catalogue. They appear to be a block off the Fremont St. Canopy.
City: Sloan
Casino: WinnaVegas
Today's chip of the day comes from the WinnaVegas casino in Sloan, IA. Sloan is about 10 miles south of Sioux City, IA. WinnaVegas has 650 slots and 20 tables on a 45,000 square foot gaming floor. Table games include blackjack, craps, roulette, pai gow poker, let it ride, and spanish 21.
Here's a picture of what I saw the first time I tried to visit this property:
And here's what the casino looks like when it's not turned into an island:
I collected my WinnaVegas chip about a year after I wanted to. On my first visit to the area, I encountered a very significant amount of flooding. The casino was closed at the time, though they opened about a week later and used amphibious boats to shuttle players and staff to the property.
My chip from WinnaVegas is a Chipco product. There's a bit of wear, though it's not too terribly bad for a chip that was issued in 1998. The casino's website lists a name of Siouxland Casino on some pages. It's not clear, but if the casino changes names it may also receive new chips.
I have one more chip in my collection from Iowa, and a handful of chips from other areas. I anticipate that my collection will be exhausted by early next week, at which time we'll need to coordinate the future of the thread.
Is it "Winna" as in "Winna, Winna, Chicken Dinnah!", or is "Winna" a Native American expression, like "Winnebago".Quote: rdw4potusState: Iowa
City: Sloan
Casino: WinnaVegas
Today's chip of the day comes from the WinnaVegas casino in Sloan, IA.
Also, since I don't see any overhead power lines in the photos; when an area is flooded like that, can folks be electrocuted in the flood waters? How was the casino powered while it was in "island" mode?
Quote: rdw4potusState: California
City: Santa Ynez
Casino: Chumash
Today's chip of the day comes from the Chumash casino in Santa Ynez, CA. My chip from Chumash is a Paulson RHC. It's red, and I think I'm starting to see a bit of a pattern. Most, but not all, chips from Tribal casinos are red while most (actually, a plurality) of chips from card clubs are yellow. This chip features an image of what I think is a turtle and some water.
FYI, the Chumash is rolling out a new chip design. Their website says they will exchange chips with the old design for new until 11:59 p.m. on April 12, 2014. After that, the old design will not be accepted in the casino.
EDIT: An image of the new inset design for the $1 chip was posted here.
Quote: AyecarumbaIs it "Winna" as in "Winna, Winna, Chicken Dinnah!", or is "Winna" a Native American expression, like "Winnebago".Quote: rdw4potusState: Iowa
City: Sloan
Casino: WinnaVegas
Today's chip of the day comes from the WinnaVegas casino in Sloan, IA.
Also, since I don't see any overhead power lines in the photos; when an area is flooded like that, can folks be electrocuted in the flood waters? How was the casino powered while it was in "island" mode?
The facility has a natural-gas fired generator. And, I think, the power lines are buried underground. I don't know if it was the gas generator or electric grid which ultimately powered the casino during the flood. There's a formula for the dispersion of electric current in liquids. I won't pretend to know that formula, but I think the volume of water in this case is sufficient to mitigate the risk of electrocution. Maybe someone who is an EE or CivE can comment less vaguely about electricity and water.
Quote: AyecarumbaQuote: rdw4potusState: California
City: Santa Ynez
Casino: Chumash
Today's chip of the day comes from the Chumash casino in Santa Ynez, CA. My chip from Chumash is a Paulson RHC. It's red, and I think I'm starting to see a bit of a pattern. Most, but not all, chips from Tribal casinos are red while most (actually, a plurality) of chips from card clubs are yellow. This chip features an image of what I think is a turtle and some water.
FYI, the Chumash is rolling out a new chip design. Their website says they will exchange chips with the old design for new until 11:59 p.m. on April 12, 2014. After that, the old design will not be accepted in the casino.
Cool! Is there a name change or ownership change? I'm excited to see the new chip, but I wonder why they'll stop honoring the old ones.
City: Sioux City
Casino: Argosy
Today's chip of the day comes from the Argosy casino in Sioux City, IA. Sioux City is on the Missouri River (and I-29) about halfway between Omaha and Sioux Falls, SD. The Argosy has 720 machines and 20 tables on a 37,500 square foot gaming floor. Table games include blackjack, craps, roulette, mississippi stud, and pai gow poker.
I picked up my chip about 90 minutes after my failed visit to Winnavegas. I was in a pretty foul mood when I arrived at the casino, as I'd just been called by my hotel and notified that they'd bumped me so that emergency workers could be accommodated. Normally, I'd have been fine with that, but they weren't very helpful at all with re-booking. At the time I got to Argosy, I was in a town with no rooms available within 100 miles. My experience at Argosy quickly lifted my spirits. First, the approach to the property looked like this:
Two notes about the picture. The white stairs going from the boat down to the water are marked "employee entrance." Also, the boarding ramp was so steeply inclined that they'd fashioned a very clever set of stairs and laid it down on one side of the ramp. (both sides would have been better, but not ADA compliant). I really wanted to take a picture of that, but the security guy at the base of the ramp determined that it'd be an indoor picture, which is not allowed.
I played BJ at Argosy. It went very well. I won, I pressed, I won I pressed, I won...I ran away. The dealer was great. He'd apparently driven for almost 3 hours to find a way to get across the river from Nebraska to get to work, and then been asked to work a double-shift since others wouldn't try that drive. I think he might have been a little chippy about the shift duration and the anticipated drive home, but mostly he was just hilariously sarcastic. And, as I was leaving, I got a call that resolved my hotel situation. I was able to stay in Sioux City, but at a motel-style property. That sure worked for me.
My chip from Argosy is a Paulson RHC. It's very plain, which is sort of too bad. The lighthouse feature at the casino is pretty striking. It seems a bit odd to not have that on the chips.
Quote: rdw4potusQuote: AyecarumbaQuote: rdw4potusState: California
City: Santa Ynez
Casino: Chumash
Today's chip of the day comes from the Chumash casino in Santa Ynez, CA.
FYI, the Chumash is rolling out a new chip design. Their website says they will exchange chips with the old design for new until 11:59 p.m. on April 12, 2014. After that, the old design will not be accepted in the casino.
Cool! Is there a name change or ownership change? I'm excited to see the new chip, but I wonder why they'll stop honoring the old ones.
I think it is just a design change. I note that the tribal casinos do this quite frequently as a security measure. If not a regular change, they may have had a pile of chips go missing on them...
Quote: rdw4potusI have one more chip in my collection from Iowa, and a handful of chips from other areas. I anticipate that my collection will be exhausted by early next week, at which time we'll need to coordinate the future of the thread.
So now we have finished Iowa and have a few more days to the end of rdw's collection. What then?
I have six chips I added to my collection while on that cruise last November. That would carry the thread for less than a week, and I won't be adding any more chips until a couple during my trip to Las Vegas next month.
Who's going to rise to the occasion? Tomspur has indicated to me that he has enough chips to keep the thread going for maybe a month. Both Konbu and AcesAndEights have also reported having a couple that we have not yet seen. I think Nareed mentioned once that she had some chips from Mexico (or someplace I forgot.) There are probably quite a few others here who have a few chips they could photograph and add to the thread.
The real trick is to find folks who are willing to prepare some sort of write-up about the casino/chip/whatever to accompany the chip image and maintain the discussion the way we have had it going for almost two years now. Anyone who is prepared to take on that responsibility right now -- or could be prepared in a few days -- please let me know, either right here in the thread or by PM. I want this thread to continue, and I would really prefer not to open it to everyone throwing up chip images at the same time. (It's just a nerdy desire for structure.)
Who is up for this?
City: White Cloud
Casino: White Cloud
Today's chip of the day comes from the White Cloud casino in White Cloud, KS. White Cloud is in a VERY remote area near the Kansas/Nebraska/Missouri triborder. The tribe that operates the casino has one of the more interesting names I've seen - it's a business of the Iowa Tribe of Kansas and Nebraska. The casino has 380 machines and 3 tables on a 21,000 square foot gaming space. White cloud has electronic 3 card poker and mississippi stud, as well as live blackjack.
Here's a picture of the property:
I've visited White Cloud twice. On the first visit, only the electronic games were present. So I missed out on my collection opportunity and moved on to the other Kansas casinos. Then, I learned that they'd put the tables back in so I stopped by a second time. My drive from Saint Joseph to White Cloud was very interesting. My GPS determined that I needed to drive down a dirt (NOT gravel...dirt) road for about 5 miles. The road was shaped like a roller coaster, and the rental car didn't handle the inclines well at all. I kept thinking about what was going to happen when I got the car stuck in a dip on a dirt road in an area with no cell service. In the end, I did make it from one highway to the other, and I did find the casino. When I did get to the casino, I almost got thrown out before I had a chance to play. I arrived at about 4pm, and the tables opened at 5. So I walked around. Turns out that when a stranger walks around in circles in a tiny casino for 45 minutes, security takes notice. They had a hard time believing that I was just killing time without playing slots. In their defense, they did have a very wide array of games among their 380 machines. New titles, too! I finally went and sat in the cafe/snack bar/buffet area. I guess technically there is a buffet, to the extent that unlimited nachos and hot dogs qualify as a buffet.
When it was finally time to play, the game itself was lots of fun. The dealer, floorperson, and other players all knew each other. There was non-stop R-rated good-natured smack talk for the whole session. That was maybe the most fun table I've ever sat at. I'm also pretty sure it was the loosest table I've ever sat at. Limits are low, but any number of shots could easily be taken. After about an hour of playing, I left up about $120.
My chip from White Cloud is a Paulson RHC. There's a sun image in the center, which looks to me like it might be partially blocked by a white cloud.
So far, no contact from any volunteer to take over the lead for the thread for a while.
Edit 7/31/14: I finally got to visit the Casino White Cloud. I posted my souvenir chip from this casino, along with a bunch of others, in this post.
As a few of you know, I collect $8 Chinese new year chips. Why $8? Because 8 is a lucky number in Chinese. The sound of it is similar to the word for "rich."
Normally they don't release them until Chinese New Year itself but I was at the Wynn on Tuesday and had to cash some chips anyway, so I asked if their 2014 Chinese New Year chips were ready. The cashier said that (1) wait until Chinese new year, and (2) this year they would be $1 chips.
I was shocked!
I asked why and was directed to a supervisor. She said that Gaming decreed that the $8 chips were somehow illegitimate because they are not for the primary purpose of gaming, and had quit allowing them to be made. That is a valid point, as I'm sure they are almost never used to make a bet but just created for suckers like me who will spend $8 on a chip that cost 50 cents to make.
I'm not saying the Wynn is right but we should know for sure soon. If they are indeed banned I would consider buying up some old issues still on hand. The Wynn and MGM always seem to have plenty from the past one or two years.
So very weird to see casinos in or around Sioux City Iowa. I lived there through the 70's, and you never saw such a bunch of non-gambling, non-sin-of-any-kind folks, at least in public. I know they had the Marina Inn on the river before I left, where they had gambling, but (gasp) it was ACROSS the river, in another STATE, for heaven's sake. lol...
I'm fairly confident that you do not follow this thread on a regular basis, but you made a very timely post. Hope you return right away to see the replies, including this one.
If you check my post about three before yours, you will see that we are approaching a transition in this thread in just a few days -- rdw4potus will have completed posting his entire collection, and at the moment we have not determined who will take over the lead. We don't really even have any definite volunteers.
Could we convince you to take the lead and post at least your collection of Chinese New Year chips, one per day with whatever discussion is appropriate? We may have all (at least most) of the casinos represented already, but I think these chips are special enough that I would create a new category in the index. If you would be willing to take on that responsibility for the duration of that set of chips, I will edit the index to add the category and include the "Hard Rock Las Vegas 2013".
If you post your reply (acceptance) right away, perhaps rdw4potus would be willing to consider your post this morning to be today's Casino Chip of the Day and suspend posting the rest of his chips until you can complete posting your Chinese New Year set. I don't know how many you already have, but there is time for fourteen daily chips to be posted before the 2014 chips are released.
Please let us know, and please say, "Yes."
rdw4potus, are you OK with taking a little break while the Wizard posts New Year chips leading up to the coming New Year celebration? If so, I'll go ahead and add the Hard Rock Chip to the index as today's chip of the day.
Wizard, are you prepared to post the rest of your chips starting tomorrow, or do you need rdw4potus to continue while you get something organized? BTW, we do have a little bit of a post-formating style we use, so your posts might each use a header something like:
Category: Chinese New Year Commemorative
Casino: Hard Rock (Las Vegas)
Year(s): 2013
City: Las Vegas
Casino: Aria
Year: 2013
We'll give it a try a chip at a time. I'm going to be very busy through mid-February so please forgive the lack of commentary. I don't have much to say about each one on a good day anyway.
I'm going to start with 2013 and move my way back. Here is the first one.
This one is the same on both sides, as far as I can tell. I was teaching a friend pai gow before obtaining this chip at the cage. I then showed it to him and he got excited and bought a bunch to. I'm not sure if he kept at it, but he seemed to think it was a very cool idea at the time.
Quote: Wizard...I don't have much to say about each one on a good day anyway.
I'm going to start with 2013 and move my way back.
So perhaps for this one you could just tell us what it says in the characters on either side of the snake.
Post in whatever sequence you like. I will arrange the index in alphabetical order of the casinos, with chips from each casino in chronological sequence. Unless someone has a better suggestion
And you don't care for our system of chip post headers?
Quote: Wizard...Gaming decreed that the $8 chips were somehow illegitimate because they are not for the primary purpose of gaming, and had quit allowing them to be made.
Did you have to pay a premium for the $8 chip at the cage? I recall that some time ago, casinos would charge a fee above face value for commemorative chips sold as a set. Perhaps this lack of sales tax on a, "souvenir" is what gaming is balking at.
Quote: DocSo perhaps for this one you could just tell us what it says in the characters on either side of the snake.
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Gonna jump the gun and assume the Wiz doesn't know Chinese but if he did that's darn cool.
Snake = 蛇 (character on the left)
To beckon/attract fortune= 招福 (characters on right).
In the zodiac the year of the snake was 2013.
I don't think the Wizard knows any of the Chinese variants with any fluency, but I know that he has visited the area and thought he might be able to figure out what those characters mean. Even better to have a member who can give us the meanings with some certainty.
Here's a question for either you or the Wizard: The two chips presented thus far with year-of-the-snake images show two snakes that have very different appearances -- the Aria one looks like a cobra while the one from Hard Rock looks more like a snake in a dragon costume. Is there any particular meaning in the way the snake is presented?
Quote: DocWow! Not a new state for the thread but a return to a Kansas casino after a seven-month hiatus from the state!
So far, no contact from any volunteer to take over the lead for the thread for a while.
I have exactly 2 chips that haven't been posted yet, and would be happy to post them with a write-up when we run dry. Depending on who goes before me, one of them might be taken already...in which case I'll just piggy-back on that post as is the custom.
City: Las Vegas
Casino: Bellagio
Year: 2013
Quote: DocSo perhaps for this one you could just tell us what it says in the characters on either side of the snake.
I see konbu kindly beat me to it.
Quote:And you don't care for our system of chip post headers?
Sorry, I will add the headers from now on, and added one retroactively to the Aria.
Quote: AyecarumbaDid you have to pay a premium for the $8 chip at the cage? I recall that some time ago, casinos would charge a fee above face value for commemorative chips sold as a set. Perhaps this lack of sales tax on a, "souvenir" is what gaming is balking at.
No, I have never paid over face value for a chip. It might be against gaming regulations to do that.
Quote:The two chips presented thus far with year-of-the-snake images show two snakes that have very different appearances -- the Aria one looks like a cobra while the one from Hard Rock looks more like a snake in a dragon costume. Is there any particular meaning in the way the snake is presented?
I tend to doubt it. Looking over all the snake chips most look like a cobra or a snake with a big head compared to the body. This is getting way out of my area, but I think they are just going for a dramatic looking snake.
I suppose you could claim it is for paying commissions on banker bets you make in multiples of $160. ;-)
Quote: rdw4potusThese $8 chips are great! But I'm confused by the regulations. Couldn't an $8 chip just be a "poker chip" for "use" on ring games?
$4/$8 limit hold 'em is a common poker game, but efficiently counting by 4 is not so easy.
City: Las Vegas
Casino: MGM
Year: 2013
The vast majority of these $8 Chinese New Year chips are the large baccarat size. I think they say baccarat not because they can only be played there but because Chinese players prefer that game.
This MGM chip is different on both sides, unlike the Aria and Bellagio. Sorry they are not rotated right. I don't have much to say about this chip except that I don't like it much. Previous MGM editions were much better.