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March 25th, 2014 at 7:22:27 AM permalink
Now that this thread includes chips from four casinos in Africa -- all from South Africa, with one more to come tomorrow, I am really wishing that I had kept souvenir chips from those Cairo casinos I played in back in the '80s. A bit more variety in representing the continent would be nice, but that was way back before I started a hobby of collecting casino chips.
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March 25th, 2014 at 8:56:09 PM permalink
Category: Africa
Country: Nelspruit, South Africa
Casino: Southern Sun Emnotweni


For my last chip I take you on a journey to the Eastern part of South Africa, referred to as Mpumalanga. This is the profince that is home to the Kruger National Park. The casino, when I was there was temorarily located inside a mall. The mall is still there but so is the permanent casino, now called "Southern Sun Emnotweni". Below is a pic sourced from the internet.


I got the chip while one our honeymoon. Because it was a destination wedding,the whole family traveled to the Kruger National Park for some safari action. We spent a day at the mall when it was raining and I discovered the casino. I played roulette for about 10 minutes and got the chip. It is a yellow chip with inserts on the rim and not the sides. The pattern on the center inlay is also quite strange. It could have something to do with the sun (Southern Sun is the hotel group who owns part of the holding company called "Tsogo Sun"). The inlay also appears to be off center. This is weird as I have two chips and they both look this way. For whatever reason it appears to be done on purpose.


I want to thank Doc for giving me the opportunity to share my chips and for being a part of this great thread!
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March 26th, 2014 at 8:26:06 AM permalink
The thanks go to you Tomspur, for providing us these chips and stories from regions that most of us will never get to visit. I really appreciate your contribution.

The MOGH catalog lists this casino as the Tsogo Sun Casino, although they provide a link to the casino's web site where it really is listed as the Southern Sun.

Have you checked what the other side of your chip looks like? All of the chips that MOGH shows from this casino are different on the two sides. One side of each of their chips has the pattern shown on your chip, but the other side of each chip has an image of a variety of butterfly -- different butterflies on different denominations of chips.

If your chip has a butterfly image on the other side, and if you can get a photo of that side, it would be very nice if you could add that photo in an edit of your post. If you do that, particularly if there is a delay before you can do it, please make a current post in the thread letting us know to look back here to see the new image.

I'm looking for Tom to return to the lead role in the thread some day to post some other chips in his collection, once he gets the chance to review them all and see which ones we haven't already covered.

For now, though, we have another member who has agreed to take the lead and post his collection starting today. I understand that he has five chips to share with us, so some time while we are seeing those chips and reading about those casinos, I will be in touch with a couple of you other members who have offered to post a chip. I'm still looking for additional volunteers who have souvenir chips to share -- at the moment it appears that we will run out of chips for this thread even before the WoV 2014 Spring Fling. I would really like to see this thread continue.
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March 26th, 2014 at 7:41:23 PM permalink
Category: Asia
Country: Macau / Macao SAR, China
Casino: Oceanus (海立方) / Sociedade de Jogos de Macau, S.A. (澳門博彩股份有限公司)


Greetings everyone. For my first and second chip we will be returning back to Macau. The Oceanus is one of 17 casinos in Macau owned by SJM according to their website (sjmholdings.com). I believe they all use the same chips so there are no Casino Oceanus branded chips. This is sad for the chip collector but should save time for anyone thinking of visiting those 17 casinos just to collect. The casino's website states their 3 story property has over 260 tables and 560 slots, and is the only casino connected to the ferry terminal. It opened in 2009 on the former site of the Yaohan department store and has a covered walkway connecting it to the terminal. This is most convenient for those who can't wait to be separated from their money, or for those who have a limited amount of time to spend gambling and must stay close to the terminal. I believe it takes about the same time (or faster) to walk there from the terminal than to wait in line for a taxi.

I played a little bit of Baccarat to collect this chip in 2011. I did not take any notes but my impression was lots of tables and lower minimums than the major casinos, as well as being fairly smokey. This is the only jeton in my collection. The Chinese side of the chip has the full name of SJM on top and 10 dollars on the bottom. I don't know what the 0402L means, it could be a batch number or chip model number?

Anyway, Macau casinos doesn't interest me much due to the lack of craps, and the ones that have it (1 each at Venetian, Wynn, Sands Cotai, Galaxy, and maybe City of Dreams) has a $200 HKD minimum (about $26 USD) and I'm only comfortable playing $5 345x odds, if not just double odds most of the time.

For more detailed info and photo of the property see this review at http://wizardofmacau.com/casinos/oceanus.html

PS: I don't know how this should be listed in the index since the chip is from SJM, which is a holding company/corp. and not a casino. I got this from the Oceanus but there's no indication at all this chip is from there. Doc will have to figure this out!




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March 26th, 2014 at 9:31:14 PM permalink
Quote: Konbu

I don't know how this should be listed in the index since the chip is from SJM, which is a holding company/corp. and not a casino. I got this from the Oceanus but there's no indication at all this chip is from there. Doc will have to figure this out!


Yeah, I seem to have trapped myself into a role of naming the continents/categories and perhaps even the casinos. How did I let that happen? The MOGH catalog just shows this chip under the category of S.J.M. Since you got it at the Oceanus, I think I'll just put it in the directory under that name and possibly make some adjustment if someone starts to post chips/jetons from other S.J.M casinos in Macau. Now if it turns out that YOU do that with your post tomorrow, I might get grumpy.      ;-)

Of relevance to your post, the MOGH catalog shows some jetons with numbers similar to the 0402L that is on yours. One of their HK$10 jetons has the identical number (so it isn't a serial number); another HK$10 jeton is marked 0403L; a HK$25 jeton is marked 0402K, and the HK$50, HK$100, HK$500, HK$1000, and HK$5000 jetons appear to have other similar numbers and letters. The photos have poor resolution, so I can't be certain of some of these marks, but it seems likely that they indicate both the denomination and a series of jeton. The HK$50 and above jetons also appear to have serial numbers molded into them, something like the Casino da Madeira jeton that I posted.

Web sites can be interesting/confusing. The MOGH catalog page for S.J.M. has a link to a site for "The SJM Group of Companies" at www.sjmholding.com, while you have provided the link to www.sjmholdings.com for "SJM Holdings Limited". It is not clear at all whether these are the same company. That second site lists their casinos but doesn't tell about them or provide links. I searched and found a site for the casino (I think) at www.oceanus-macau.com. That page provides essentially no useful information about the casino. Not at all the way I am accustomed to businesses presenting and promoting themselves on the web.
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March 26th, 2014 at 9:43:48 PM permalink
What is a "Jogos"?
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March 26th, 2014 at 10:08:33 PM permalink
Jogos is Portuguese for "games."
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March 26th, 2014 at 10:12:01 PM permalink
The sjmholding.com makes reference to UAE at the bottom and the links are broken. The sjmholdings.com (with the s) is the actual website.

Jogos is Portuguese. I don't know Portuguese, but it's most likely jogos = juegos = games/gaming.

Oops should have refreshed before clicking reply.
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March 27th, 2014 at 2:52:22 AM permalink
Quote: Konbu


Anyway, Macau casinos doesn't interest me much due to the lack of craps, and the ones that have it (1 each at Venetian, Wynn, Sands Cotai, Galaxy, and maybe City of Dreams) has a $200 HKD minimum (about $26 USD) and I'm only comfortable playing $5 345x odds, if not just double odds most of the time.



A friend also found a craps table at the Lisboa(2013 visit). I don't know the minimum for sure but I think he said $100.HKD.
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March 27th, 2014 at 4:55:07 PM permalink
Quote: Konbu

Category: Asia
Country: Macau / Macao SAR, China
Casino: Oceanus (º£Á¢·½) / Sociedade de Jogos de Macau, S.A. (°ÄéT²©²Ê¹É·ÝÓÐÏÞ¹«Ë¾)



Are the edges of the jeton tapered, so that the edge is thinner than the middle?
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