Casino Chip of the Day
June 5th, 2012 at 11:00:52 AM
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About the buffet - is it truly bad? I've had my share of utterly taste-free buffet food, and while it wasn't satisfying it isn't repulsive, either. It sounds from various reviews like the IP's buffet might really be repulsive?
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June 5th, 2012 at 11:09:28 AM
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Quote: rdw4potusAnyway...What will happen with the IP when the Linq is completed? Will it be radically changed? They're not really going to call that thing a Horseshoe, are they?
I haven't heard anything about that, but I would put the odds at about 10,000:1 against them turning that into a Horseshoe, even with a complete demolishing and rebuild. Bally's is more likely to become a Horseshoe, but that's not even why I would lay such odds.
When Harrah's (now CET) bought Horseshoe, one of the agreements set was to not change the integrity of Horseshoe, meaning comps and making it "right for the gambler." New Horseshoes that have been built since then (Council Bluffs, rethemed Southern Indiana, redone Hammond and Cleveland) all still offer comps to players, though you have to ask and they aren't as generous. Game offerings are TYPICALLY a little better than market average; for example, CB offers a double deck game with the most favorable rules in the area (at $50 mins).
In other words, Horseshoe doesn't fit the current Las Vegas model for CET. I'm kind of surprised they are opening new casinos under that moniker, but I guess it's safer than a Harrah's name, and when ROC decides to buy-out Caesars share of the Ohio properties, they'll be easier to convert.
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June 5th, 2012 at 11:25:55 AM
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Quote: rdw4potusAbout the buffet - is it truly bad? I've had my share of utterly taste-free buffet food, and while it wasn't satisfying it isn't repulsive, either. It sounds from various reviews like the IP's buffet might really be repulsive?
You all passed on the chance to do the IP buffet challenge. Now we'll never know, as surely the buffet will improve when the property's renamed.
Tiltpoul, what I've heard is that the property has to be renamed beacsue Caesars lost the rights to the IP brand. I've heard the plan is to rename it Horseshoe. You know what such online rumors are worth. I know brands have been tarnished before.
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June 5th, 2012 at 11:31:20 AM
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Quote: NareedTiltpoul, what I've heard is that the property has to be renamed beacsue Caesars lost the rights to the IP brand. I've heard the plan is to rename it Horseshoe. You know what such online rumors are worth. I know brands have been tarnished before.
Oh it's not going to stay Imperial Palace... I'm sure of that. Even with a complete overhaul, they'll change the name to something a little less...what's the word... well, something that doesn't ring of awfulness like Imperial Palace does.
I think the rumors start since Horseshoe is the only brand they don't have in Vegas, and it's very logical to think they would want to have a namesake property there. I just don't see that being the case. As I mentioned, the main reason they made Horseshoes in Ohio is an easier conversion if/when ROC decided they want to operate their own casinos. Harrah's are pretty heavily themed in purples and party colors, and conversion would be considerably more difficult.
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June 5th, 2012 at 11:36:31 AM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearAs some of you remember, I wrote what woulde become the official WoV Imperial Palace review....
Yes, I had intended to include a link to your review, but I forgot. My apologies for forgetfulness and my thanks for your posting the link for me.
rdw4potus: The MOGH catalog shows that $5 chip as having been issued in 1992. The $5 chips from the 80s had a similar center inlay, missing the "NV", and different edge inserts. That catalog does not show any new $5 chips having been issued by Imperial Palace in the past 20 years.
Johnzimbo: That older chip of yours illustrates one of the reasons I don't like hot stamped chips. Even with the molded name of the casino, the chip looks junky when the center printing wears off. The MOGH catalog indicates that chip was issued in 1983 and that the even-earlier chip was darker blue with gold printing. Does that agree with your price guide's info?
I also agree that your newer chip looks just like mine. The MOGH catalog describes it as "TCR# N1788", but they also show one listed as "TCR# N1788.1", and I cannot see any difference except how the printing has worn. Does your price guide describe the difference between those?
As for the various comments about the IP buffet, I must admit that I have never tried it. I like the one at Main Street Station, but in general I don't go for buffets. If I remember correctly, the challenge between Croupier and Nareed was that they had to eat at least some of everything offered on the IP buffet. My impression is that neither of them really regrets that they haven't brought the challenge to reality.
June 5th, 2012 at 11:40:29 AM
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Quote: TiltpoulOh it's not going to stay Imperial Palace... I'm sure of that. Even with a complete overhaul, they'll change the name to something a little less...what's the word... well, something that doesn't ring of awfulness like Imperial Palace does.
It seems to me that "Crappy but Decent Hotel with a GREAT location and Mediocre Gambling" won't draw people in droves ;)
Any other ideas I have are even more sarcastic ("El Cheapo Las Veags") Or they could go with something generic like "The Continental" or "The Grand Hotel." Maybe they could follow recent trends and call it "The S" (for Strip). Or resurrect old ideas and use a name like "Xanadu."
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June 5th, 2012 at 11:48:58 AM
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Other brands not in Vegas include Harvey's (Lake Tahoe) and ShowBoat (Atlantic City).Quote: TiltpoulI think the rumors start since Horseshoe is the only brand they don't have in Vegas....
If you believe Wikipedia, the ShowBoat in Vegas (Boulder Highway actually), was the model for, and was a sister property to the ShowBoat in AC. But when Harrah's took over, there was controversy and a desire to segregate the two. So the Vegas property was sold and renamed Castaways. So there may be ill feelings towards another ShowBoat.
Of course, for locals, a Harvey's already in the state makes a second one seem welcome.
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June 5th, 2012 at 11:58:40 AM
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LOL! The ShowBoat in Vegas. I was the oldest of 4 in my family. When I turned 21 my parents offered me a 4 day trip with dad to Vegas, or $1000 to invest. Even though my birthday was in August we went in October (when my college had mid-semester break), we stayed offstrip at the ShowBoat (room rates on the strip were ridiculous due to a Tyson Fight that weekend) and anyways, my father and I got kicked out of that casino on that trip. It was the Sunday evening on the trip which went from Fri-Mon) and we were both playing blackjack, I had about $25 on the table, and my day had roughly $40. I had 18, my day had a 17, and the dealer showed an 8 up. She flipped over a 6 and then drew a 6 for 20, she thought she busted and paid us our winnings. 15 minutes later, 3 suits came down tapped us on the shoulder asking for the money back. We both played dumb and were told to leave. So, we drove down the road to perhaps Boulder Station.
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June 5th, 2012 at 12:29:56 PM
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Quote: Doc
Johnzimbo: That older chip of yours illustrates one of the reasons I don't like hot stamped chips. Even with the molded name of the casino, the chip looks junky when the center printing wears off. The MOGH catalog indicates that chip was issued in 1983 and that the even-earlier chip was darker blue with gold printing. Does that agree with your price guide's info?
I also agree that your newer chip looks just like mine. The MOGH catalog describes it as "TCR# N1788", but they also show one listed as "TCR# N1788.1", and I cannot see any difference except how the printing has worn. Does your price guide describe the difference between those?
My guide does say that the first issue $1 chips were dark blue. It doesn't describe 1788.1 or 1788.2 so I am unsure what the difference between them might be
June 5th, 2012 at 12:33:21 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearOther brands not in Vegas include Harvey's (Lake Tahoe) and ShowBoat (Atlantic City).
Roadhouse could be an interesting theme for Vegas as well. The fake cedar smell there could be a nice complement to whatever-that-scent-is-supposed-to-be at the Venetian.
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June 5th, 2012 at 2:20:18 PM
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Our first trip to Vegas was at the Imperial Palace. Of course, back then we had no money to speak of. We were around 30 or so I'd guess. Friends of ours had booked a room at the Imperial Palace and they suggested we could just stay with them, 'on the sly'. They were already checked in when we arrived, so they met us and we took our bags up to the room. Two double beds. I am 5' 10", but my feet easily hung off the end of the bed by almost a foot. I am not kidding. These beds could not have been 5' long. And the shower in the bathroom hit me in the middle of my chest. I had to virtually do a toe touch just to get my hair washed. These are the same friends who put us up when we go to Hollywood in PA, and we still laugh about that first Vegas trip almost every time we get together.
I had been playing craps while we were waiting for them to come get us, and had been doing pretty good. So after we get settled I decide to go back down to the craps table, and our friend's wife decides to go watch me play. I don't recall how I had ended up with 3 black chips, but that is what I was playing with. For whatever reason, the boxman sees the chips and then asks me if I am staying at the IP. Right away, I am thinking room comp. Immediately my friend's wife is whispering in my ear, "NO, you are not registered." So now I am trying to guess if I can get away with giving the box my friend's name. Finally, I just replied, No, I am not staying here.
All of that to save the extra $10 or whatever they would have charged us for 4 people in the room. LOL
I had been playing craps while we were waiting for them to come get us, and had been doing pretty good. So after we get settled I decide to go back down to the craps table, and our friend's wife decides to go watch me play. I don't recall how I had ended up with 3 black chips, but that is what I was playing with. For whatever reason, the boxman sees the chips and then asks me if I am staying at the IP. Right away, I am thinking room comp. Immediately my friend's wife is whispering in my ear, "NO, you are not registered." So now I am trying to guess if I can get away with giving the box my friend's name. Finally, I just replied, No, I am not staying here.
All of that to save the extra $10 or whatever they would have charged us for 4 people in the room. LOL
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June 5th, 2012 at 4:19:32 PM
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Quote: rdw4potusRoadhouse could be an interesting theme for Vegas as well. The fake cedar smell there could be a nice complement to whatever-that-scent-is-supposed-to-be at the Venetian.
I browsed a book that expounded on the observation that there are certain "themes" that are universal to amusement parks around the world (think "lands" at one of the Disney parks). Las Vegas casinos are "amusement parks" in a sense, and follow that observation, with one missing theme:
Comparing Disney to Las Vegas:
| Theme | Disney Park | Las Vegas |
|---|---|---|
| Nostalgia | Main Street, U.S.A. | New York, New York |
| Future | Tomorrowland | Stratosphere |
| Adventure | Adventureland | Mirage/TI |
| Wild West | Frontierland | Sam's Town/Gold Coast |
| Fairytales | Fantasyland | Excalibur |
| Gothic | New Orleans Square | ???? |
So... If you are a hotel/casino looking for a theme... "Gothic Haunted House" (Luxor is probably closest) could be a starting point.
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June 5th, 2012 at 4:43:29 PM
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Not trying to derail this thread, but since Imperial Palace is going to be converted anyways, this seems the appropriate place to give a quick history of CET's original plan when Harrah's bought Caesars...
Back in the early days of the new and improved Harrah's Entertainment (after the acquisitions and sell-offs in Tunica, New Jersey and East Chicago), there was a plan to condense all the casinos into one of four brands:
CAESARS- These were going to be resort casinos, including spas and the luxurious life. Properties would include Vegas, NJ and potentially two or three other "destination" casinos. Caesars Indiana didn't fit the mold since there was no spa and really not a destination... so it changed to
HORSESHOE- The casino for the gambler, with Benny Binion's vision in mind (and ultimately, Jack's vision). He would stay a central figure and give their players the stability that you don't get with Harrah's properties. Acquisitions included Tunica, Hammond and Bossier City, with new properties slated in Council Bluffs and a convert in Southern Indiana. Now this also includes Ohio.
HARRAH'S- The party casino. This was all about offering a good time to players, with less of an emphasis on comps and more about immediate fun. Dealers (and all personnel) are supposed to be engaging, which is why service awards are usually awarded to Harrah's properties, even if it's a bad place overall.
RIO- The All-Suite hotel. This was supposed to include a conversion of Showboat, Sheraton and I believe Grand Biloxi. However, Showboat isn't all-suite, Grand Biloxi got blown away in Katrina, and Sheraton, while all-suite, would need a massive overhaul of the outside to compete. This idea tanked, and as a result, there is only one Rio, and CET would do anything to sell it.
My guess is that Imperial Palace does get re-themed, but probably not to anything that currently exists. Roadhouse would be an interesting concept there, but it's a bit too Southern for the West Coast crowd, and that theme is already extensively covered in Vegas. I wouldn't be surprised if CET tries to theme the casino as an extension of Harrah's. I think they need the hotel room inventory (especially if/when they find a buyer for Rio) and a lower priced option for travelers would fit the geographic area.
I may start a new thread on this topic... there's a lot here to digest, and that's not from the awful buffet...
Back in the early days of the new and improved Harrah's Entertainment (after the acquisitions and sell-offs in Tunica, New Jersey and East Chicago), there was a plan to condense all the casinos into one of four brands:
CAESARS- These were going to be resort casinos, including spas and the luxurious life. Properties would include Vegas, NJ and potentially two or three other "destination" casinos. Caesars Indiana didn't fit the mold since there was no spa and really not a destination... so it changed to
HORSESHOE- The casino for the gambler, with Benny Binion's vision in mind (and ultimately, Jack's vision). He would stay a central figure and give their players the stability that you don't get with Harrah's properties. Acquisitions included Tunica, Hammond and Bossier City, with new properties slated in Council Bluffs and a convert in Southern Indiana. Now this also includes Ohio.
HARRAH'S- The party casino. This was all about offering a good time to players, with less of an emphasis on comps and more about immediate fun. Dealers (and all personnel) are supposed to be engaging, which is why service awards are usually awarded to Harrah's properties, even if it's a bad place overall.
RIO- The All-Suite hotel. This was supposed to include a conversion of Showboat, Sheraton and I believe Grand Biloxi. However, Showboat isn't all-suite, Grand Biloxi got blown away in Katrina, and Sheraton, while all-suite, would need a massive overhaul of the outside to compete. This idea tanked, and as a result, there is only one Rio, and CET would do anything to sell it.
My guess is that Imperial Palace does get re-themed, but probably not to anything that currently exists. Roadhouse would be an interesting concept there, but it's a bit too Southern for the West Coast crowd, and that theme is already extensively covered in Vegas. I wouldn't be surprised if CET tries to theme the casino as an extension of Harrah's. I think they need the hotel room inventory (especially if/when they find a buyer for Rio) and a lower priced option for travelers would fit the geographic area.
I may start a new thread on this topic... there's a lot here to digest, and that's not from the awful buffet...
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June 5th, 2012 at 6:42:45 PM
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Let me preface this post by saying I am a loyal CET player. I only stay at their properties and I usually play about 80% of the time at a CET property when in Vegas. With all that being said.... The IP buffet has got to be the worst I have ever encountered anywhere. Literally nothing I ate was any good. And that's hard to type because I will pretty much eat anything. I am 5'9" and weigh approximately 200 lbs so I wouldn't consider myself a picky eater. Both my girlfriend and I ate there last year for breakfast and it was awful. My experience is the rooms are fine, if not a little outdated but that's not a problem at all to me. My only other issue the IP is that if you stay in a tower in the back of the property it's nearly impossible to figure out how to find the correct elevators. I seriously got lost twice in one trip just trying to find my room. I would not suggest paying for a room there. Only stay if it's free as the location is great.
June 5th, 2012 at 6:48:02 PM
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Btw if someone would be nice enough to explain how I could take a picture of my of my chip with my phone and somehow post with my iPad I would be more than happy to start sharing my chips. I'm not very tech savvy so I have no clue how to do it on my own. Thanks in advance for any help.
June 5th, 2012 at 7:40:28 PM
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Quote: BeardgoatBtw if someone would be nice enough to explain how ....
I'm not at all sure I can explain it, since I know nothing about either your phone or an iPad. Let's start with a couple of questions that might get us closer, then either some of the other members or I might be able to fill in the blanks.
(1) Can you take a picture of a chip with your phone and have it in good focus and properly illuminated? There have been several images posted in this thread that are so blurry that it is difficult to recognized the chip. I think that in most cases, when the person gets the camera (phone?) close enough that the chip fills the viewfinder, then they are so close that the camera cannot focus. Also, the camera may flash automatically, and at that range, it may not be possible to get proper flash exposure. If you can get past those issues, you've got a chance.
(2) Do you know how to move an image from your phone to your iPad? I have never used an iPad, so I cannot be of much help. My first guess would be that you can connect the two with a USB cable or possibly by Bluetooth.
(3) Assuming you can get a good chip image to the iPad or a computer, do you have a place to store images in the internet? They need to be stored somewhere so that they can be accessed by the servers hosting WizardofVegas.com? I use the servers at the web hosting service that hosts my own domain, but most individuals don't have that option. Who provides your internet access? Many ISPs provide some storage space on their servers for clients. I know that several people posting here use photobucket.com to host their photos. I have never used it, but if you need that service, some of the others can probably steer you through the process.
If you can get your photos hosted someplace on the web, then it's mostly a matter of reading that link "Click here for formatting codes" that appears below the right hand side of the window when you are posting a reply. The info there from JB will show how to post images with the "img" command. I post mine in a slightly more complicated way that shows a small image that you click on to see the larger one. Others just hide the larger images behind "Show spoiler" buttons. JB's instructions tell about those also.
Good luck; let us know of your progress and what additional help you need.
June 5th, 2012 at 8:05:07 PM
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Quote: DocI'm not at all sure I can explain it, since I know nothing about either your phone or an iPad. Let's start with a couple of questions that might get us closer, then either some of the other members or I might be able to fill in the blanks.
(1) Can you take a picture of a chip with your phone and have it in good focus and properly illuminated? There have been several images posted in this thread that are so blurry that it is difficult to recognized the chip. I think that in most cases, when the person gets the camera (phone?) close enough that the chip fills the viewfinder, then they are so close that the camera cannot focus. Also, the camera may flash automatically, and at that range, it may not be possible to get proper flash exposure. If you can get past those issues, you've got a chance.
(2) Do you know how to move an image from your phone to your iPad? I have never used an iPad, so I cannot be of much help. My first guess would be that you can connect the two with a USB cable or possibly by Bluetooth.
(3) Assuming you can get a good chip image to the iPad or a computer, do you have a place to store images in the internet? They need to be stored somewhere so that they can be accessed by the servers hosting WizardofVegas.com? I use the servers at the web hosting service that hosts my own domain, but most individuals don't have that option. Who provides your internet access? Many ISPs provide some storage space on their servers for clients. I know that several people posting here use photobucket.com to host their photos. I have never used it, but if you need that service, some of the others can probably steer you through the process.
If you can get your photos hosted someplace on the web, then it's mostly a matter of reading that link "Click here for formatting codes" that appears below the right hand side of the window when you are posting a reply. The info there from JB will show how to post images with the "img" command. I post mine in a slightly more complicated way that shows a small image that you click on to see the larger one. Others just hide the larger images behind "Show spoiler" buttons. JB's instructions tell about those also.
Good luck; let us know of your progress and what additional help you need.
RE: #3: I use photobucket. I'm realizing now that it's a bit weak with 450 images in one directory, but it's free...
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June 5th, 2012 at 8:13:30 PM
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The photo quality will be fine. I have a Verizon smartphone and I can email the picture to myself. By trying to do that I just found out I can send the photo to an online album hosted at verizon. I'm going to mess around with that. Thanks doc
June 5th, 2012 at 8:26:34 PM
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hopefully this works out alright. this is a trial run so i'll try to get better quality in the future!
June 5th, 2012 at 8:43:34 PM
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and now my attempt at posting the harrahs laughlin chip that was different than docs a few days ago
June 5th, 2012 at 8:46:05 PM
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Quote: Beardgoat
hopefully this works out alright. this is a trial run so i'll try to get better quality in the future!
Well, it didn't seem to work on first try -- there is no image showing up for me. In the "img" command, you used the reference "http://picture.vzw.com/mi/725593635_2590261608_0.jpeg?limitsize=345,345&outquality=56&ext=.jpg&border=2,0,0,0". I doubt you want all of that; it looks like something that is supposed to be handled by some kind of viewer software that probably has "features" not needed here. I tried deleting everything from the "?" on, but I got an error message. Have you been able to get the image to show up in your web browser?
And the Harrah's Laughlin chip isn't showing up for me either.
Do you see the chip images when you preview your posts here?
June 5th, 2012 at 8:48:39 PM
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Yeah the image shows up on my iPad and I just used my girlfriends computer and it shows up there too. Hmmm I don't know what the problem would be? Hopefully someone can clear this issue up. For what it's worth her computer is a MacBook so maybe since they are both apple products that changes something? Or maybe because it's from the same wireless connection
June 5th, 2012 at 8:51:50 PM
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Do you mean it shows up on your iPad and on your girlfriend's computer when you are reading this thread? Like in the last post on the previous page and the first post on this page, where you use the spoiler button?
I'm not seeing a photo in either of those posts. Does anyone/everyone else?
I'm not seeing a photo in either of those posts. Does anyone/everyone else?
June 5th, 2012 at 8:53:49 PM
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Yeah the images and spoiler both show up fine for on the iPad and computer. I'll just wait for suggestions.
June 5th, 2012 at 9:03:55 PM
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I don't know why you should be able to see the images on this forum site but I can't. If we were just trying to look at them on the Verizon site, I would guess that a password or something might be required and that it could be stored in a cookie on your machine but not mine. But viewing images in this thread should mean that the wizardofvegas.com servers were able to get it from Verizon, and everyone should be able to see them.
I'll postpone further speculation until other members say whether they can see your images or not. Then we may have to ask JB for some help.
I'll postpone further speculation until other members say whether they can see your images or not. Then we may have to ask JB for some help.
June 5th, 2012 at 9:14:31 PM
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Quote: Doc
Can you tell us whether the lines on the back of your chip (and the "$5" on the front) are printed or are more brass?
I finally got home and pulled out the chip - the lines appear to be more brass. I'm quite sure that the "$5" is brass, but the lines are smaller and it's harder to tell with them. The lines are slightly raised, and are cooler to the touch than the rest of the chip; so I'm using that as the basis for my claim that they're brass.
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June 5th, 2012 at 9:18:12 PM
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Quote: DocI don't know why you should be able to see the images on this forum site but I can't. If we were just trying to look at them on the Verizon site, I would guess that a password or something might be required and that it could be stored in a cookie on your machine but not mine. But viewing images in this thread should mean that the wizardofvegas.com servers were able to get it from Verizon, and everyone should be able to see them.
I'll postpone further speculation until other members say whether they can see your images or not. Then we may have to ask JB for some help.
I just get the little "broken picture link" icon. Like you'd see if a photo were moved after the link as posted. I caused a couple of those when I moved things around on photobucket, and I had to go back and re-link photos in my blog. I wonder if Verizon-hosted pictures are dynamic, so that the links work for a while and then stop?
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June 6th, 2012 at 6:03:07 AM
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Thanks, rdw4potus, for the update on your Hyatt Regency Lake Tahoe chip. I would blame my lack of such "brass" chips on the fact that I only collect the $1 variety, but I don't even remember playing with chips like that. The Hyatt must have gone to the Chipco chips for the $5 denomination, too, by the time I played there last fall. Or else I'm just being forgetful again.
I see even less of Beardgoat's posts than you report -- not even a broken picture link ikon. For the last post on page 102 of this thread, I only see some blank space followed by a single line of text. If I quote that post, I can see the link he posted, but even outside the thread I cannot convert that link to something that works for me. In the next post, at the top of this thread, I see the spoiler button, but when I click on it I only see a "box" a few pixels high with nothing in it.
I see even less of Beardgoat's posts than you report -- not even a broken picture link ikon. For the last post on page 102 of this thread, I only see some blank space followed by a single line of text. If I quote that post, I can see the link he posted, but even outside the thread I cannot convert that link to something that works for me. In the next post, at the top of this thread, I see the spoiler button, but when I click on it I only see a "box" a few pixels high with nothing in it.
June 6th, 2012 at 6:24:57 AM
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Skimping on a room charge but working your way up to Black chips at the IP that is good. You were at a place where the owner said: No bathtubs!! I want players who will take a quick shower and then hit the casino.
With all this Linq stuff going on, I don't know what is happening to the IP... but it was a great lifestyle place for awhile. Young adults with little money, hot-bunking in the rooms, six people fighting over two key cards, making a meal of a hot dog, playing blackjack for five dollars and trying to pick-up the dealers. Everyone piling into the car to drive back to Los Angeles and hitting the Agricultural Inspection at 5:00am with one sober driver and six unconscious passengers utterly dead to the world.
With all this Linq stuff going on, I don't know what is happening to the IP... but it was a great lifestyle place for awhile. Young adults with little money, hot-bunking in the rooms, six people fighting over two key cards, making a meal of a hot dog, playing blackjack for five dollars and trying to pick-up the dealers. Everyone piling into the car to drive back to Los Angeles and hitting the Agricultural Inspection at 5:00am with one sober driver and six unconscious passengers utterly dead to the world.
June 6th, 2012 at 6:50:05 AM
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Quote: DocI see even less of Beardgoat's posts than you report -- not even a broken picture link ikon.
If it helps any, at home using Firefox I do not see anything. At the office using IE, I see the broken picture icon.
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June 6th, 2012 at 7:05:27 AM
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Thanks for that info, Nareed. I sent a PM to JB asking whether he had any ideas/suggestions on this.
June 6th, 2012 at 7:10:40 AM
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State: Nevada
City: North Las Vegas
Casino: Jerry's Nugget
I have previously reported on making an expedition through North Las Vegas one day a few years ago, trying to hit all of the casinos in close proximity there. The day was such a blur that I have no specific memories of any of the casinos and just a general impression that I didn't care enough for any of them to ever bother to return.
Jerry's Nugget was one of the casinos I visited that day. I don't intend to say a lot of negative things about it, because it could just be "guilt" by association. I don't remember the place at all.
According to Wikipedia, the place was originally established across the street from the currently location in 1964 by Jerry Lodge and Jerry Stamis – perhaps the name should be Jerrys' Nugget. Four years later, they bought the Bonanza Club and moved their casino across the street into the larger facility.
The casino is still owned by the Stamis family. The Wiki article makes a very brief reference to Angelo Stamis as the only person ever to have a revoked gaming license restored in Nevada. The Las Vegas Review Journal article that tells the whole background is located here. It's an interesting read, so I'll just point you that direction rather than trying to re-write it in this post.
The chip shown below (note: a real chip rather than a token like I got at Barcelona, Silver Nugget, and Poker Palace in North Las Vegas) is a RHC Paulson hat and cane in (filthy now) white with eight edge inserts – four fairly-wide orange ones and four smaller ones in gold or perhaps pumpkin. The center inlay is different on the two sides of the chip, with one showing the sign structure on the property that looks a bit like an oil derrick or a tower for electrical transmission lines. It's not often I encounter such a structure built just to hold up a sign.
The MOGH catalog, which lists this casino under "Nugget, Jerry's", says that the chip was issued in 2004. There are similar chips in other denominations. Earlier chips in all denominations had the metal coin center inlays that I like. Perhaps someone has one of those to post.
I also expect that there are several members who have much better stories to tell about Jerry's Nugget, so let's share those here, too.
City: North Las Vegas
Casino: Jerry's Nugget
I have previously reported on making an expedition through North Las Vegas one day a few years ago, trying to hit all of the casinos in close proximity there. The day was such a blur that I have no specific memories of any of the casinos and just a general impression that I didn't care enough for any of them to ever bother to return.
Jerry's Nugget was one of the casinos I visited that day. I don't intend to say a lot of negative things about it, because it could just be "guilt" by association. I don't remember the place at all.
According to Wikipedia, the place was originally established across the street from the currently location in 1964 by Jerry Lodge and Jerry Stamis – perhaps the name should be Jerrys' Nugget. Four years later, they bought the Bonanza Club and moved their casino across the street into the larger facility.
The casino is still owned by the Stamis family. The Wiki article makes a very brief reference to Angelo Stamis as the only person ever to have a revoked gaming license restored in Nevada. The Las Vegas Review Journal article that tells the whole background is located here. It's an interesting read, so I'll just point you that direction rather than trying to re-write it in this post.
The chip shown below (note: a real chip rather than a token like I got at Barcelona, Silver Nugget, and Poker Palace in North Las Vegas) is a RHC Paulson hat and cane in (filthy now) white with eight edge inserts – four fairly-wide orange ones and four smaller ones in gold or perhaps pumpkin. The center inlay is different on the two sides of the chip, with one showing the sign structure on the property that looks a bit like an oil derrick or a tower for electrical transmission lines. It's not often I encounter such a structure built just to hold up a sign.
The MOGH catalog, which lists this casino under "Nugget, Jerry's", says that the chip was issued in 2004. There are similar chips in other denominations. Earlier chips in all denominations had the metal coin center inlays that I like. Perhaps someone has one of those to post.
I also expect that there are several members who have much better stories to tell about Jerry's Nugget, so let's share those here, too.
June 6th, 2012 at 7:15:47 AM
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Quote: DocState: Nevada
City: North Las Vegas
Casino: Jerry's Nugget
The sahding on the inlay is wonderful, and it matches well with the insert colors on the edges. I guess some people who study graphic design do pay attention.
I have to say that on first glimpse, the billboard on the photo on the left looked like an oil rig. Perhaps the overall brown scheme influenced that a bit.
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June 6th, 2012 at 7:23:24 AM
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Wikipedia has a photo of the structure/sign here. There is also a Wiki page about playing cards that were once sold in the Jerry's Nugget gift shop. That page describes the structure as an oil derrick, so that's likely what the builders intended for you to think. Or maybe we just all have the same false impression.
June 6th, 2012 at 7:30:05 AM
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Quote: DocWikipedia has a photo of the structure/sign here. There is also a Wiki page about playing cards that were once sold in the Jerry's Nugget gift shop. That page describes the structure as an oil derrick, so that's likely what the builders intended for you to think. Or maybe we just all have the same false impression.
It strikes me as highly incongruent. The word "nugget" is associated with gold and other precious metals, not oil. But that aside, does the casino have an oil or Texas theme? If not, why portray an oil derrick?
Oh, I know the reason, if there is one, will be something liek the owner liked it, or they got the design cheap, or something pedestrian like that :)
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June 6th, 2012 at 7:59:20 AM
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Quote: Nareed... does the casino have an oil or Texas theme? If not, why portray an oil derrick?
If I tried to describe the theme of Jerry's Nugget from memory, I'd be like that title of Wayne Brady stage act -- Making %@it Up.
June 6th, 2012 at 9:28:27 AM
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Jerry's Nugget is just a stone's throw (well, maybe a small caliber handgun bullet's flight) away from the Fremont canopy, but it may as well be on the Boulder Strip. To me, the freeway is a border that defines "Downtown", and Jerry's Nugget is on the other side of the highway. I have passed it, but never stopped there. The "sign/derrick" doesn't encourage me. As I recall, it was painted black, just like the exterior of the casino. We all know how well that color scheme worked out for, "The Reserve".
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June 6th, 2012 at 10:00:19 AM
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Jerry's nugget seems terribly out of place where it is. It's a bland, theme-less locals casino. But it's in the abyss north of downtown, so nobody really wants to go there. I've visited 3 times, each time the property was dead and each time I was about 35 years younger than the next youngest customer (I was 30 at the time).
I just have a picture of one side of the chip. that image seems to be identical to what's on Doc's $1 chip. I assume that the other side is similar as well, but I'll have to verify that when I get home.
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June 6th, 2012 at 10:21:31 AM
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Quote: rdw4potusIt's a bland, theme-less locals casino.
Thanks. So the mystery of the oil derrick remains.
I like the inlays, though. Very good use of shades and highlights, nicec composition. I may brave the bad rep and go collect a chip next trip.
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June 6th, 2012 at 10:39:07 AM
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Quote: AyecarumbaJerry's Nugget is just a stone's throw (well, maybe a small caliber handgun bullet's flight) away from the Fremont canopy, but it may as well be on the Boulder Strip.
Just for clarification, Google maps indicates this casino is really 1.6+ miles from Fremont Street, straight up Main St. until just past where it merges with Las Vegas Blvd. That's 1.6 miles away and perhaps a paradigm shift, too.
June 6th, 2012 at 11:00:41 AM
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It's not a bad casino, and the italian restaraunt is actually not bad. There is just not much to recommend the place. They are one of the few casinos in LV to have table games but not a hotel.
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June 6th, 2012 at 11:26:29 AM
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Really? Few?Quote: bigfoot66They are one of the few casinos in LV to have table games but not a hotel.
Just how few are there like that?
As you may remember, when I created the WoV maps, the criteria was that it have a hotel and table games. I used the WoV Hotels list as a guide.
Then I had to argue with Mike to include Ellis Island, which isn't on the list. I got it included because it's a well known tourist casino and it's attached to a Super 8.
I also wanted to include Joker's Wild since it's one of the very few (only?) casinos that still uses 25¢ chips on the craps table. But I didn't argue that one as much because I didn't want to open a whole can of worms for other casinos that don't have hotels.
Your comment makes me think that it's a relatively small can of worms. If it's so few, maybe we can convince Mike to include them on revised maps as well as on a WoV HotelsCasinos list.
So how many, and which ones are we talking about?
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June 6th, 2012 at 11:37:44 AM
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I have never been to any besides Jerry's and Joker's wild, I am sure there are others, Silver Saddle? If we were discussing this a few months ago I would mention the Western. Binion's hotel is mothballed, but it has a hotel. Whatever the number is it can only get smaller as the government will not allow anyone to open a new casino unless they also build a hotel.
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June 6th, 2012 at 1:12:48 PM
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Quote: DocI don't know why you should be able to see the images on this forum site but I can't. If we were just trying to look at them on the Verizon site, I would guess that a password or something might be required and that it could be stored in a cookie on your machine but not mine. But viewing images in this thread should mean that the wizardofvegas.com servers were able to get it from Verizon, and everyone should be able to see them.
I'll postpone further speculation until other members say whether they can see your images or not. Then we may have to ask JB for some help.
Doc nailed it - Verizon's vzwpics.com website requires you to be logged in, and the owner or recipient of the image, in order to view it. Hence, it shows up for Beardgoat but nobody else.
The recommendation is to upload it somewhere and reference that instead in the [img] tag.
As an aside, I know this is a bit of a hassle -- in the new version of the forum (there is no ETA on that yet), you will be able to upload images directly here without the need for a third party to host the image.
June 6th, 2012 at 1:39:38 PM
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Poker Palace, Club Fortune, Jokers Wild, Ellis Island, Whichever-casino-in-downtown-henderson-is-the-one-with-the-tables, Klondike Sunset, Silver Saddle Saloon, Slots-a-fun (did they take out the tables?). that's all I've got off the top of my head. How many am I missing?
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June 6th, 2012 at 2:14:17 PM
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Quote: JBDoc nailed it - Verizon's vzwpics.com website requires you to be logged in, and the owner or recipient of the image, in order to view it. Hence, it shows up for Beardgoat but nobody else.
The recommendation is to upload it somewhere and reference that instead in the [img] tag.
Thanks for the help, JB.
bigfoot66: I suggest that you check into photobucket.com unless someone else has a better suggestion. Sorry that I can't help very much with that, since I haven't used it myself.
Quote: JBAs an aside, I know this is a bit of a hassle -- in the new version of the forum (there is no ETA on that yet), you will be able to upload images directly here without the need for a third party to host the image.
I'm guessing that when photos are uploaded directly here, you will automatically trim the files to a size and resolution appropriate to a thread window, right? If lots of folks start uploading photos that run 2 to 6 MB each, you might eventually need a few TB of server storage just for photos, unless you trim them first.
Right now, are you storing the images at all on your own server (or your host's server), or does the thread go out and check the poster's hosting site every time someone views a photo?
June 6th, 2012 at 2:22:43 PM
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Ellis Island? I thought there is a Super8 motel there, no? Perhaps the ownership structure is such that the two are not affiliated but they share a parking lot and sure appear to be together to the uninitiated. Also, Slots O Fun is part of Circus Circus, just like O'Sheas (rest in peace) was a part of the Flamingo.
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June 6th, 2012 at 2:35:15 PM
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I did a trip to Jerry's Nugget on my North Las Vegas trip. To me, it was the ONLY one that stood out as being relatively decent and I would consider playing at. I felt it was very close to Downtown, and from MSS it's easy to see the sign over the hill that takes you down to that neck of the woods.
I was tired by the time I got there, so I played 2 hands of Ultimate Hold Em... both of them I was 4 to a Straight Flush. I ended up a few bucks and was happy.
I was tired by the time I got there, so I played 2 hands of Ultimate Hold Em... both of them I was 4 to a Straight Flush. I ended up a few bucks and was happy.
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June 6th, 2012 at 2:58:37 PM
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Quote: TiltpoulI did a trip to Jerry's Nugget on my North Las Vegas trip. To me, it was the ONLY one that stood out as being relatively decent and I would consider playing at.
I know what you mean, and this raises a question I've been meaning to ask: where is the line in North Las Vegas between the very rough area (think Poker Palace) and the pretty nice part (Cannery, Aliante Station)?
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