DST Tonight
Quote: tringlomaneTwo times in one night, not sure this is sarcasm or not. Lol
If not, glad I could help.
I'll let you keep guessing😀
Then again, I haven't had to be on any type of lasting scheduled for over 20 years.
Quote: EvenBobHere is what I do to handle DST. When
I get up in the morning, I'll turn my clocks
ahead 1/2 hour. Then later in the day
about 4 p.m., I'll turn them ahead another
half hour. This way I've eased myself into
the time change.
How well does that work, Cosmo?
Quote: AxelWolfThe fact that somome has to ease themselves into a time change seems strange(
I go to bed and get up every day
at exactly the same time. I eat at
exactly the same time. Feed the
pets at exactly the same time.
The time change totally throws all
that off. At any given part of the day
I can tell you what time it is without
looking at my watch, and only be a
couple minutes off, or exactly right.
I do everything by the clock because
it adds structure to my life.
Quote: EvenBobI go to bed and get up every day
at exactly the same time. I eat at
exactly the same time. Feed the
pets at exactly the same time.
The time change totally throws all
that off. At any given part of the day
I can tell you what time it is without
looking at my watch, and only be a
couple minutes off, or exactly right.
I do everything by the clock because
it adds structure to my life.
Are you in prison?
Quote: MaxPenAre you in prison?
I have been self employed for 45
years. If you don't have structure
in your life, you'll never get anything
done.
People run their lives by their work
schedule, the kids school and events
schedule, even the schedule of what's
on TV. You here them saying they
never have 'time' for anything.
I have tons of time, and to use it
effectively, I must have a rigid
structure so I always know where
I am.
But Bob, but Bob, you spend sooo
much time on the internet. I really
don't. I rarely turn my computer
on before 12:30-1pm, and I never
just sit here, I'm always doing
other things and check it periodically.
ahead or back, it's very confusing.
Quote: EvenBobLets try this again. Do we turn them
ahead or back, it's very confusing.
Why bother? You'll just have to do it all over again in six months.
Deep six your wristwatch.
Quote: billryanWhy bother? Y
I did that a couple years ago, left
it the same. I have no time
schedule outside my own, I
don't even watch TV programs
in real time.
Quote: EvenBobBut Bob, but Bob, you spend sooo
much time on the internet. I really
don't. I rarely turn my computer
on before 12:30-1pm, and I never
just sit here, I'm always doing
other things and check it periodically.
I never would have guessed that after looking at your post at your profile;
https://wizardofvegas.com/member/evenbob/posts/
That looks more like you are reading and posting almost continuously.
Quote: HullabalooThat looks more like you are reading and posting almost continuously.
Nope. My posts are generally short
and to the point, also. I even took
the years from 2014-2018 mostly
off from this place. I'd have 50K
if I'd stuck around.
Quote: billryanOne year, when I was in high school, they switched to DST in February or so to conserve fuel. That fall, I turned the clock ahead instead of back and ended up at a 615 mass where I was aiming for the 800. Lesson learned.
In January, 1974, USA implemented year-round DST, and it applied during the following winter as well. The problem with that is, in northern states, it's still dark when the school day begins in early January.
Maybe this is the year I remember to switch all of the clocks that don't automatically switch themselves, and not switch the ones that do.
I am also reminded of the urban legend I heard Paul Harvey mention: a Korean woman committed suicide...because she was one hour late with her husband's dinner...because she didn't realize the clocks had been moved ahead...because Korea had introduced DST for the first time in centuries...because NBC (yes, the USA TV network) had "asked" the Korean government to do it so things like the men's 100m track & field final at the 1988 Summer Olympics in Seoul could take place at 11 AM local time instead of 10 AM and still be shown live in prime time in the eastern time zone. To be fair, the last part - about NBC - is probably true.
Quote: ThatDonGuya Korean woman committed suicide...because she was one hour late with her husband's dinner..
I can see that. Really, what other choice
did she have..
Quote: ThatDonGuyIn January, 1974, USA implemented year-round DST, and it applied during the following winter as well. The problem with that is, in northern states, it's still dark when the school day begins in early January.
Maybe this is the year I remember to switch all of the clocks that don't automatically switch themselves, and not switch the ones that do.
I am also reminded of the urban legend I heard Paul Harvey mention: a Korean woman committed suicide...because she was one hour late with her husband's dinner...because she didn't realize the clocks had been moved ahead...because Korea had introduced DST for the first time in centuries...because NBC (yes, the USA TV network) had "asked" the Korean government to do it so things like the men's 100m track & field final at the 1988 Summer Olympics in Seoul could take place at 11 AM local time instead of 10 AM and still be shown live in prime time in the eastern time zone. To be fair, the last part - about NBC - is probably true.
It was pitch dark the first couple of weeks. A couple kids got hit by cars and almost caused the whole thing to collapse.
If that makes it "too dark" to go to school in the morning, then have winter school hours. Problem solved.
EDIT: Or we could just compromise. Set the clocks ahead 30 minutes and leave it forever.
Quote: TigerWuWe need year-round DST.
I lived thru the first one, people
hated it. Never gonna happen.
Living in the north, the extra
hour of daylight in the winter
is meaningless.
Quote: EvenBobI lived thru the first one, people hated it. Never gonna happen.
Living in the north, the extra hour of daylight in the winter is meaningless.
I can see the southern states, except possibly Florida, being able to pull this off. The problem with Florida doing it - and right now, the only thing that stops Florida from doing it is, Federal law limits the choices to how it works now or year-round standard time, and all attempts to change this have died in committee - is, during the time when the rest of the country is on standard time, Florida is one hour ahead of everybody else, so either it would need a separate TV feed from all of the networks to keep the 10:00 shows from airing from 11 PM to midnight, or people would just have to get used to watching their shows an hour later, which is what would happen with sports and other live events (for example, the Oscars) anyway.
Quote: TigerWuWe need year-round DST. I'd rather it be dark in the morning than dark at freaking 5:30 in the afternoon.
There is another aspect of this where it is bright quite late. In Indianapolis on July 4th the sun sets at 9:16. It's well after 10 before it gets fully dark, and fireworks don't even start until at least 10.
I feel sorry for parents who try and put their kids to bed at an early hour.
I’m no fan of Little Marco, but he has my support on this one...
Quote: vegasArizona does not change the clock (other than the navajo nation) and they seem to be doing fine.
AZ doesn't have kids walking to
bus stops on the road because
the shoulder is filled with
plowed snow. In pitch darkness.
I would be perfectly happy if it was dark 24/7.Quote: billryanIn the winter, it used to stay dark until after 10 am in St. Petersburg.
Quote: AxelWolfI would be perfectly happy if it was dark 24/7.
No you wouldn't, we need sunlight to
stay healthy. It's why AK has the
biggest alcohol/drug problems,
depression over the endless
winter nights.
Quote: vegasArizona does not change the clock (other than the navajo nation) and they seem to be doing fine.
A guy I worked with was almost ready to start a fight over this fact. Then he ended up looking like an idiot. He then hated me even more. Gotta love office politics.
Quote: AZDuffmanA guy I worked with was almost ready to start a fight over this fact.
Indiana only recently switched to DST. I went
there almost weekly in the 90's, what
a pain it was dealing with a different
time zone in a state that borders mine.
I believe it was the Amish that kept it
on standard time forever. What a pain
they are to deal with, but that's a
different topic.
Think how many lost days there are due to people forgetting the change, and indeed lives even lost trying to get to work speeding because of a time error.
Az. doesn't recognize the time change, so it messes with residents twice as bad. We have to deal with everyone else changing.
When we lived in Page Az., part of town recognized DST and part of town [the res] did not. So 3/4 of town had a different time, than 1/4 of town. Geezus folks.
PS; the Navajo aren't well known for punctuality anyway. Yá'át'ééh
Quote: EvenBobIndiana only recently switched to DST. I went
there almost weekly in the 90's, what
a pain it was dealing with a different
time zone in a state that borders mine.
I believe it was the Amish that kept it
on standard time forever. What a pain
they are to deal with, but that's a
different topic.
I thought IN had a weird thing where half the state switched and half did not? IIRC it straddles a time zone, made part of an episode of The Left Wing and Josh gets mad at them because he didn't know about it. When I drove cross-country to AZ I do not even remember seeing a time zone change sign on the highway.
BTW, that does not seem like much, but when you drive east to west it really helps you make time having those extra hours.
Quote: billryanor I could leave NYC at noon and be gambling in Las Vegas at 3PM.
When we fly to Vegas we leave at 10am
and are there by noon. Coming back
it's a little different.
Quote: @realDonaldTrumpMaking Daylight Saving Time permanent is O.K. with me!
DO IT! Could be the greatest thing to come out of this presidency...
Quote: EvenBobAZ doesn't have kids walking to
bus stops on the road because
the shoulder is filled with
plowed snow. In pitch darkness.
That's a logistical problem, not a "time" problem.
Make the adjustment that affects the absolute minimum number of people; i.e., adjust the school schedule. Don't make millions of people adjust THEIR schedules for something that doesn't affect them.
Quote: ams288Trump just tweeted:
DO IT! Could be the greatest thing to come out of this presidency...
Don't get your hopes up... Trump also said he wanted to get rid of the Electoral College!
He'll forget he said this by lunchtime.
Quote: EvenBobI believe it was the Amish that kept it
on standard time forever. What a pain
they are to deal with, but that's a
different topic.
I love having the Amish around. They do very good work for cheap.
You can’t adjust the school schedule without adjusting the parents work schedule. To adjust parental work shedules you’ll need to adjust many non-parental work schedules. The ripple effect is quite large.Quote: TigerWuThat's a logistical problem, not a "time" problem.
Make the adjustment that affects the absolute minimum number of people; i.e., adjust the school schedule. Don't make millions of people adjust THEIR schedules for something that doesn't affect them.
Don't get your hopes up... Trump also said he wanted to get rid of the Electoral College!
He'll forget he said this by lunchtime.
Quote: unJonYou can’t adjust the school schedule without adjusting the parents work schedule. To adjust parental work shedules you’ll need to adjust many non-parental work schedules. The ripple effect is quite large.
Okay, fair enough... but it's still a logistical problem and not a temporal one.
Why are there kids walking down a busy snow-covered road in the dark to go to school in the first place? That is a fundamental flaw in the local education system. They need to reorganize the bus routes, or hire more bus drivers, or something. Don't just force everyone to change their clocks and said, "Welp... that oughta do it!" It's just pure laziness that doesn't really solve any problems.
Quote: TigerWuOkay, fair enough... but it's still a logistical problem and not a temporal one.
Why are there kids walking down a busy snow-covered road in the dark to go to school in the first place? That is a fundamental flaw in the local education system. They need to reorganize the bus routes, or hire more bus drivers, or something. Don't just force everyone to change their clocks and said, "Welp... that oughta do it!" It's just pure laziness that doesn't really solve any problems.
In my day we walked down busy snow-covered roads in our bare feet to get to school.
Today, most kids probably get picked up right in front of or in front of their house. At least not until high school when they can more fend for themselves. See busses doing that all the time. Keep it on DST, light is wasted on the morning commute.
Quote: ams288Trump just tweeted:
DO IT! Could be the greatest thing to come out of this presidency...
National emergency?
Quote: AxelWolfI would be perfectly happy if it was dark 24/7.
I am the opposite. I wish it was sunny 24/7.
Quote: DRichI am the opposite. I wish it was sunny 24/7.
Let's split the difference and make it cloudy 24/7
is we would then be out of sync
with the 70 countries that are on
DST with us. They would always
be switching their time and we
wouldn't.
Welcome to Central Time!Quote: ThatDonGuy... Florida is one hour ahead of everybody else, so either it would need a separate TV feed from all of the networks to keep the 10:00 shows from airing from 11 PM to midnight, or people would just have to get used to watching their shows an hour later, which is what would happen with sports and other live events (for example, the Oscars) anyway.
Quote: EvenBobBig problem with year round DST
is we would then be out of sync
with the 70 countries that are on
DST with us. They would always
be switching their time and we
wouldn't.
It's mostly just North America and Europe, and a handful of other random countries.
If the U.S. went all in on either DST or standard, it would probably be a matter of only a couple of years before the EU and the handful of others followed suit. Or vice versa.
That's what it is like living in Arizona, [the part that doesn't observe].Quote: EvenBobBig problem with year round DST
is we would then be out of sync
with the 70 countries that are on
DST with us. They would always
be switching their time and we
wouldn't.
