NV Gaming Most Wanted List
January 18th, 2012 at 4:34:48 PM
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These are the 30 most wanted casino crooks in
Nevada. What I find interesting is that of the 30,
17 are Asian or Latino, mostly Asian. If you know
almost half of the most wanted casino felons in
the state are Asian, why, as a casino, would you
continue to hire so many Asian dealers? Look who's
missing from the list, wouldn't you make a point
of hiring more of them instead? Yeah yeah, profiling
and all that. But the truth is, profiling does work,
especially when your bottom line is at stake. Its
like they're going out of their way to hire more people
from a demographic thats proven to be untrustworthy.
Nevada. What I find interesting is that of the 30,
17 are Asian or Latino, mostly Asian. If you know
almost half of the most wanted casino felons in
the state are Asian, why, as a casino, would you
continue to hire so many Asian dealers? Look who's
missing from the list, wouldn't you make a point
of hiring more of them instead? Yeah yeah, profiling
and all that. But the truth is, profiling does work,
especially when your bottom line is at stake. Its
like they're going out of their way to hire more people
from a demographic thats proven to be untrustworthy.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 18th, 2012 at 4:43:37 PM
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Yep, looks like African-American Males and Pacific Islanders are the best people to hire. It also would seem those of an Arab or Indian/Pakistan origin would be good people to hire as well.
As a casino, I'd hire the people you apply for the jobs and past the tests I put in place.
As a casino, I'd hire the people you apply for the jobs and past the tests I put in place.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
January 18th, 2012 at 5:00:46 PM
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Quote: thecesspitI'd hire the people you apply for the jobs and past the tests I put in place.
I've owned two businesses and I hired people
who I thought would get along with the customers
and not rip me off. I've been told by casino employees
that so many Asian dealers are hired not because
they get along well with players or even other
dealers, because they don't. Or because they're
more trustworthy, which they aren't. Its because they
come in when you tell them to, work overtime
without complaining, and never call in sick. Hell
of a hiring criteria.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 18th, 2012 at 5:10:12 PM
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Well, that'd be part of the test.
I wouldn't be choosing the later based on their surname or colour the skin or shape of their features. I'd do it on their references, personality and the sort of thing.
But I'll bow to businessman.
I wouldn't be choosing the later based on their surname or colour the skin or shape of their features. I'd do it on their references, personality and the sort of thing.
But I'll bow to businessman.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
January 18th, 2012 at 5:23:54 PM
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This should be posted in the free-speech zone. Because it's offensive. And I'm not going to get into a discussion about it.
January 18th, 2012 at 5:26:59 PM
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Quote: FinsRuleThis should be posted in the free-speech zone. Because it's offensive. And I'm not going to get into a discussion about it.
I'd have to agree. Just because there is a trend of a specific race, doesn't mean they are any more or any less likely to commit some crime or fit some specific trait. You guys are committing the ultimate gambler's fallacy. :)
January 18th, 2012 at 5:28:09 PM
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Quote: thecesspitI wouldn't be choosing the later based on their surname or colour the skin
There's really only two things that count when
you have a business where the employee will be
dealing with the public and with YOUR money.
Will my customers like them, and will they rip
me off. Employees who don't like people will
drive your customers away. I stopped playing
mini bac because of the rude Asian dealers
and ever ruder Asian players. I disliked 90%
of the Asian BJ dealers I came into contact
with. I think its hilarious that almost half of
the most wanted casino criminals are Asian,
and only a tiny part of Vegas is Asian, yet
every casino if full of Asian dealers. This is
supposed to be an entertainment venue, the
customer comes first. No we don't, obviously.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 18th, 2012 at 5:32:21 PM
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Quote: EvenBobI stopped playing
mini bac because of the rude Asian dealers
and ever ruder Asian players.
This statement should read
Quote:I stopped playing mini back because of the rude dealers and even ruder players.
I've met rude people of all races. Everyone is equally likely to be an ass. ;)
January 18th, 2012 at 5:35:02 PM
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Quote: YoDiceRoll11or fit some specific trait.
You you find most Asian dealers to be friendly
and outgoing, then? What casino is that? Never
been there... I try and be PC, and then reality
always slaps me in the face.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 18th, 2012 at 5:36:35 PM
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Quote: EvenBobYou you find most Asian dealers to be friendly
and outgoing, then? What casino is that? Never
been there... I try and be PC, and then reality
always slaps me in the face.
hehe, just staying positive. I can't stand "PC". Just don't get caught in the trap of always being negative. Skews your viewpoint, and maybe that one nice asian dealer will turn out to be an ass when you are rude to him first expecting him to be rude.
January 18th, 2012 at 6:27:37 PM
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Huh.
One of the reasons I enjoy Pai Gow Poker is the Asian players and dealers. I always seem to get along really well with them. (But I get along with everyone, so there's that....)
Honestly, I haven't noticed any propensity for MORE rudeness from Asians, than from any other culture. I would say that I find casino gamblers as a whole more rude than the general population, but inside of that set I don't think I could single out Asians as different from anyone else.
One of the reasons I enjoy Pai Gow Poker is the Asian players and dealers. I always seem to get along really well with them. (But I get along with everyone, so there's that....)
Honestly, I haven't noticed any propensity for MORE rudeness from Asians, than from any other culture. I would say that I find casino gamblers as a whole more rude than the general population, but inside of that set I don't think I could single out Asians as different from anyone else.
A falling knife has no handle.
January 18th, 2012 at 6:32:18 PM
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I do too. I deal and play so much Pai Gow the Asian dealers re-named me Xing-Fu Choi, a name I proudly wear. I was expected to wear it with pride and honor, even if it is a little tongue-in-cheek ("Happy Lucky Money.")
When Bob goes on his Asian tear, I cannot help but to think of Christopher Walken's role as Captain Koons in Pulp Fiction:
"I'd be DAMNED if I would let some dirty little slope get his hands my birthright" (holding up an old watch he kept hidden in his anatomy for the duration of his POW stay in Vietnam...)
When Bob goes on his Asian tear, I cannot help but to think of Christopher Walken's role as Captain Koons in Pulp Fiction:
"I'd be DAMNED if I would let some dirty little slope get his hands my birthright" (holding up an old watch he kept hidden in his anatomy for the duration of his POW stay in Vietnam...)
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January 18th, 2012 at 6:42:58 PM
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Quote: PaigowdanWhen Bob goes on his Asian tear,
Tear? I've gone out of my way in the last 30
years to get along with Asian casino players,
with no luck. I'm friendly, try and engage
them in conversation, and always get the cold
shoulder. They either act like I didn't speak
or pretend they don't speak English. Why they're
this way is a mystery. But hey, if thats the way
they want it, right back at em..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 18th, 2012 at 6:55:15 PM
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A lot of people don't have problems with other people because of race, or even view it in those terms, now do they?
And I thought you felt that Casino operators and their employees were "the dark side," add...Asians because of their race...
And I thought you felt that Casino operators and their employees were "the dark side," add...Asians because of their race...
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
January 18th, 2012 at 7:01:39 PM
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Quote: PaigowdanA lot of people don't have problems with other people because of race
The worst was in 2008 when I talked my wife
into playing bac with me all summer at Four
Winds. They had busses coming in from Chicago
all day and it was mostly Asian bac players. My
wife is the nicest person you can meet. She tried
again and again, week after week, to strike up
conversations with some of the Asian women at
the table and never did. They would either ignore
her or give a cold smile. They spoke English because
they were always begging the pit for comps and
arguing with them. My wife's feelings were majorly
hurt, and it finally pissed me off to the point where
I was done with them. There's no excuse for rudeness,
when the other person is being nice to you. What the
hell is their problem?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 18th, 2012 at 7:16:56 PM
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Nothing, but it's because person 'x' is rude, not because they're Asian - or Black, - or a nine year old Hindu boy, or whatever.
I lived in New York's Chinatown for two years, never had a problem, people were fine. Harlem or East L.A. would have been rough for a miquetoast hush-puppy crumb-cake like me, but Chinatown was fine. So were my times in Asia, been to Japan, Thailand, Cambodia, Taiwan, no problem there. Somalia or Iran would have been a problem, short of going in with the Marines, and that too would be messy.
I work as a dealer, the majority of dealers where I work are Asian, no problem there, either. My wife is Thai, she's an angel.
The problems you're having with "them" might not originate with them, you see.....
I lived in New York's Chinatown for two years, never had a problem, people were fine. Harlem or East L.A. would have been rough for a miquetoast hush-puppy crumb-cake like me, but Chinatown was fine. So were my times in Asia, been to Japan, Thailand, Cambodia, Taiwan, no problem there. Somalia or Iran would have been a problem, short of going in with the Marines, and that too would be messy.
I work as a dealer, the majority of dealers where I work are Asian, no problem there, either. My wife is Thai, she's an angel.
The problems you're having with "them" might not originate with them, you see.....
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January 18th, 2012 at 7:56:59 PM
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Quote: PaigowdanThe problems you're having with "them" might not originate with them, you see.....
Yeah, its just us, everybody else loves Asian dealers
and players. Whatever, Dan.
What was the final straw was the pit let them get
away with anything and everything. Sometimes
my wife would take one of my chips and bet it
and she was told its against the rules to touch
another players chips. Yet the Asian players did
it CONSTANTLY! And neither the pit or the dealer
ever said a word. When I complained to the pit
away from the table, she said they didn't see it.
Didn't see it, on almost every hand? Sometimes
one of them would leave the table and disappear
for over an hour, and their chips were never touched.
I went away once for about 7min, and when I got
back my chips were gone and an Asian guy had my
seat. The pit had stored my chips because a Asian
wanted a seat, real nice. Yet they can be gone as
long as they want. But I'm sure its all in my head,
Dan, I'm sure its all my fault.
The truth came out later, after I'd quit playing. The
Asians are very clannish players, so the casinos in
the area bend over backwards to keep them happy.
Piss one of them off, and they've been known to all
totally desert the bac tables in a casino for months.
They're such terrible players and lose so much money,
its worth it to the casino to look the other way just
to keep them happy. But I'm sure thats all a lie, Dan,
right?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 18th, 2012 at 9:57:21 PM
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Quote: EvenBobBut I'm sure its all in my head, Dan, I'm sure its all my fault.
Bob, to some degree I do think so. Never saw any conspiracy like that, and I'm a round-eye in the midst of it all: dealing, playing, installing table games, the whole nine yards.
I've heard it said that it's not paranoia when they really are out to get you. But if they are, maybe they're sensing your unease or something.
Quote: EvenBobBut I'm sure thats all a lie, Dan, right?
I don't know. Sometimes people are innocently mistaken, and hold some beliefs that they are absolutely convinced are true. You seem like you believe this to be the case - and it is your experience with them. Different people hold different beliefs, doesn't make them true, doesn't make it the case, but it makes it their point of view. I've had different experiences, different beliefs, a different POV on it.
Edit: Bob, on a completely differently subject.
Something I have
noticed about
your posts,
you still have
this "column"
or vertical
style of
having your
comments come
down the page.
Like
this.
Just Wondering,
What is
the computer
issue causing
this? sorry,
couldn't
resist.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
January 18th, 2012 at 10:17:14 PM
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thats funny, my players gave me an asian name also Fa King Noluck
January 18th, 2012 at 10:33:28 PM
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Quote: Paigowdan
Edit: Bob, on a completely differently subject.
Something I have
noticed about
your posts,
you still have
this "column"
or vertical
style of
having your
comments come
down the page.
Like
this.
Just Wondering,
What is
the computer
issue causing
this? sorry,
couldn't
resist.
Bob carefully puts return characters in his posts so it aligns correctly on his screen.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
January 18th, 2012 at 11:02:17 PM
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Quote: thecesspitBob carefully puts return characters in his posts so it aligns correctly on his screen.
Oh, okay. Managing the wrap around.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
January 18th, 2012 at 11:22:12 PM
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Is he using a screen from an old Mac, circa 1992?
January 19th, 2012 at 7:55:14 AM
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This is the fundamental attribution error. Because Bob played with some asshole Asians at Four Winds (and maybe some other places; who knows, who cares?), all Asians are assholes. Of course I've played with a ton of assholes at casinos, most of whom are white (because they are the majority in most casinos). But Bob would say the reason they are assholes is because they are assholes, not because they are White...
Eh, why bother?
Eh, why bother?
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
January 19th, 2012 at 8:19:08 AM
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I played Texas Hold'em Bonus at the Imperial Palace in Las Vegas and had a wonderful asian dealer. Her name is Luan (I think) and she's from Manila.Quote: YoDiceRoll11This statement should read
Quote:I stopped playing mini back because of the rude dealers and even ruder players.
I've met rude people of all races. Everyone is equally likely to be an ass. ;)
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
January 19th, 2012 at 9:34:11 AM
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Dan, Are you saying Xing-Fu Choi is "Happy Lucky Money"? Just curious. A nice complement.Quote: PaigowdanI do too. I deal and play so much Pai Gow the Asian dealers re-named me Xing-Fu Choi, a name I proudly wear. I was expected to wear it with pride and honor, even if it is a little tongue-in-cheek ("Happy Lucky Money.")
January 19th, 2012 at 1:33:53 PM
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Quote: EvenBobThese are the 30 most wanted casino crooks in
Nevada. What I find interesting is that of the 30,
17 are Asian or Latino, mostly Asian. If you know
almost half of the most wanted casino felons in
the state are Asian, why, as a casino, would you
continue to hire so many Asian dealers? Look who's
missing from the list, wouldn't you make a point
of hiring more of them instead? Yeah yeah, profiling
and all that. But the truth is, profiling does work,
especially when your bottom line is at stake. Its
like they're going out of their way to hire more people
from a demographic thats proven to be untrustworthy.
The only thing this list proves is that these particular Asians are too smart to get caught. It doesn't give an overall percentage of any ethnic group's cheating.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
January 19th, 2012 at 1:46:45 PM
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Quote: EvenBobI think its hilarious that almost half of
the most wanted casino criminals are Asian,
and only a tiny part of Vegas is Asian, yet
every casino if full of Asian dealers.
Isn't this like Wizard's beef with the stolen cars? If every casino is "full of Asian dealers", doesn't it stand to reason that most of casino criminals would be Asian?
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January 19th, 2012 at 2:02:54 PM
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Quote: FaceIsn't this like Wizard's beef with the stolen cars? If every casino is "full of Asian dealers", doesn't it stand to reason that most of casino criminals would be Asian?
Here's some interesting statistics. Blacks make up 12.3
of the US population, but almost 50% of the US prison
population. Asians make up 7% of NV's population, but
almost 50% of the most wanted list. I can't find any stats
on how many NV dealers are Asian, but I'm guessing 40%
wouldn't be far off. But what do stats mean when you have
fantasy and conjecture to go on. There are people who
actually do stats for a living. Morons.. (intended sarcasm)
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 19th, 2012 at 2:54:26 PM
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To be honest I avoid Asian dealer's. I find them to be unfriendly. If I see an Asian dealer smiling and being friendly, I will sit down and play. It is human nature to make decision's based on past experience. I cant slight Bob for making decision's based on his past experience. Again "human nature". I almost hate to post on this subject for fear of being labeled a racist. After all calling other people racist is the fashionable thing to do. I think I will try to play with more Asian dealers on my next trip to Vegas. Possibly my perception's are skewed. Wouldn't be the fist time I was wrong.
As for the list I find it interesting but have no clue. Demographic's plays some part, but doesn't tell the whole story.
Still tempted to just push the back button. Screw it, I'm posting. Label me if you want.
As for the list I find it interesting but have no clue. Demographic's plays some part, but doesn't tell the whole story.
Still tempted to just push the back button. Screw it, I'm posting. Label me if you want.
January 19th, 2012 at 3:23:58 PM
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Quote: EvenBobHere's some interesting statistics. Blacks make up 12.3
of the US population, but almost 50% of the US prison
population. Asians make up 7% of NV's population, but
almost 50% of the most wanted list. I can't find any stats
on how many NV dealers are Asian, but I'm guessing 40%
wouldn't be far off. But what do stats mean when you have
fantasy and conjecture to go on. There are people who
actually do stats for a living. Morons.. (intended sarcasm)
Talk about stats and attribution: about 100% of convicted rapists are male, not something like 37% or whatever. So according to your logic Bob, then 100% of us males (that is all of us, including you, me and the Wizard, etc.) are convicted rapists instead of family men, eh?
So it doesn't matter if 50% of Gaming's most wanted list is Asian. I assure you, 50% of Asians are not on Gaming's most wanted list - even though that list is 50% Asian. Your widdle head hurts.
Quote: ConoI almost hate to post on this subject for fear of being labeled a racist.
Don't fear it, defend it and see if it holds up.
Gotta respect Bob for putting his stuff on the table where we can slap at it.
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January 19th, 2012 at 3:36:15 PM
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Quote: EvenBobThere are people who
actually do stats for a living. Morons.. (intended sarcasm)
Morons? Morons are people who actually do stats for a living?
January 19th, 2012 at 3:38:30 PM
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Back to the original post:
Ever think that maybe the majority of the 17 asians on the list left the country, have no plans of returning, and their face will be on this website until a worse cheat pops their ugly head?
I didn't research the website you linked to, but does it say how long these people have been on the list?
As to the poster who claims the asians are too smart to get caught - those look like mug shots to me, maybe not in a prison, but in a casino security sort of way.
Ever think that maybe the majority of the 17 asians on the list left the country, have no plans of returning, and their face will be on this website until a worse cheat pops their ugly head?
I didn't research the website you linked to, but does it say how long these people have been on the list?
As to the poster who claims the asians are too smart to get caught - those look like mug shots to me, maybe not in a prison, but in a casino security sort of way.
Statistics don't lie, they deceive.
January 19th, 2012 at 3:52:26 PM
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Quote: Paigowdanit doesn't matter if 50% of Gaming's most wanted list is Asian. I assure you, 50% of Asians are not on Gaming's most wanted list
And 50% of blacks aren't in prison, Dan.
Just because 50% of prison inmates are black,
that doesn't mean 50% of blacks are criminals.
And it does matter that 50% are Asian. 7% of the states population
is Asian, yet they make up 50% of the most wanted list? You have to wonder,
how many casino crimes do Asians committ in NV, 65%? 70%?
You don't find that amazing, Dan? Most people don't committ
casino crimes because they're desperate, they do it because
they think they can get away with it, because they think they're
smarter than the casino. Why do so many Asians think that they
can get away with it?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 19th, 2012 at 4:13:57 PM
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1. Most of the gamblers of any race are problem-free, and by a modest margin. Could care less if list 'x' has 'y' percentage of 'z' race. I care about who specifically is on the list, and I care how the people I am dealing to behave, with more whites than any other race taking shots on the game.
2. Most of the casino crimes/shot-taking/scams I've seen in LV in the business are done by whites, like you and me, Bob. In Macau, I'd assume they're Chinese.
3. Most of the problem players are white, like you and me Bob.
4. most of the surveillance warnings that we have to review concern white players, and all races are represented.
5. Bob, you're an advantage player. If I see a white guy, particularly a Robert or Bob on a report, would I be wrong to assume it's you?
6. Anybody who cheats on a game has no excuse for it, and is thinking they have a chance in getting away with it. Doesn't matter what racial characteristics they have.
2. Most of the casino crimes/shot-taking/scams I've seen in LV in the business are done by whites, like you and me, Bob. In Macau, I'd assume they're Chinese.
3. Most of the problem players are white, like you and me Bob.
4. most of the surveillance warnings that we have to review concern white players, and all races are represented.
5. Bob, you're an advantage player. If I see a white guy, particularly a Robert or Bob on a report, would I be wrong to assume it's you?
6. Anybody who cheats on a game has no excuse for it, and is thinking they have a chance in getting away with it. Doesn't matter what racial characteristics they have.
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January 19th, 2012 at 4:18:36 PM
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Quote: Paigowdan3. Most of the problem players are white, like you and me Bob.
Criminals are seldom 'problem players', Dan. They
don't want to draw attention to themselves. You
think Richard Marcus, who made millions by past
posting, was ever a problem player? Being invisible
is your goal, not creating a scene.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 19th, 2012 at 4:19:29 PM
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Quote: teddysEh, why bother?
Yes, let's stop this thread.
January 19th, 2012 at 4:22:36 PM
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Quote: FinsRuleYes, let's stop this thread.
Dan and I are having fun, you can leave if you like.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 19th, 2012 at 4:26:14 PM
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There are very few Richard Marcus's.
And everyone caught was a problem player, not that we catch them all.
And he was a problem player, a few times he got away running down Las Vegas Boulevard while praying, by the very skin of his teeth, meeting at safe house locations. Read his book, American Roulette. It caught up to him.
If being invisible is the goal, then don't confuse being non-existant with "there but non-visible.'
We close every player's session out to the dollar from every table, if someone leaves up, we mark it and say "good for them" if won cleanly,
and "Sir, the security guard here will be at your side for the next so many..." if serious cheating was determined.
To all, If Bob and I are sparring, be a referee, chime in, or gripe. Not every show on the strip will be to your liking, and you can contribute.
And everyone caught was a problem player, not that we catch them all.
And he was a problem player, a few times he got away running down Las Vegas Boulevard while praying, by the very skin of his teeth, meeting at safe house locations. Read his book, American Roulette. It caught up to him.
If being invisible is the goal, then don't confuse being non-existant with "there but non-visible.'
We close every player's session out to the dollar from every table, if someone leaves up, we mark it and say "good for them" if won cleanly,
and "Sir, the security guard here will be at your side for the next so many..." if serious cheating was determined.
To all, If Bob and I are sparring, be a referee, chime in, or gripe. Not every show on the strip will be to your liking, and you can contribute.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
January 19th, 2012 at 4:29:18 PM
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Quote: EvenBobDan and I are having fun, you can leave if you like.
I agree. We're making slow and steady progress.
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January 19th, 2012 at 4:31:54 PM
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Quote: PaigowdanAnd he was a problem player, a few times he got away running down Las Vegas Boulevard while playing, by the very skin of his teeth,.
I've read the book half a dozen times. They chased
him because they suspected him of cheating, not
because he was creating a problem. Problem players
are loud drunks, or poor losers, not past posters.
Those players are cheats.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 19th, 2012 at 5:02:57 PM
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If casino security is running after your ass in hot persuit down Las Vegas Boulevard, there may be an issue.....
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January 19th, 2012 at 5:14:59 PM
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Some interesting insight on the the smiling issue.
http://nymag.com/news/features/asian-americans-2011-5/index3.html
As to the list, I dont believe that any of us think Asians are more prone to criminal activity than other ethnic groups. Wonder what the top 100 breakdown is. I suspect that the percentages are much different.
http://nymag.com/news/features/asian-americans-2011-5/index3.html
As to the list, I dont believe that any of us think Asians are more prone to criminal activity than other ethnic groups. Wonder what the top 100 breakdown is. I suspect that the percentages are much different.
January 19th, 2012 at 5:25:52 PM
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Quote: conoAs to the list, I dont believe that any of us think Asians are more prone to criminal activity than other ethnic groups.
So to you, stats are worthless. 12.3% of the population
is black, yet prisons are 50% black. This means that
blacks, as an ethnic group, are responsible for more
crimes than any other ethnic group. This is an unarguable
fact, like it or not.
Yet the the fact that half the most wanted casino criminals
are Asian is just an accident, I suppose. Means nothing.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 19th, 2012 at 5:39:16 PM
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It means that there are more Asian gamblers, only some of which are problem cheaters.
Since a greater percentage of Asians are any sort of casino customer, it stands to reason that a certain percentage will be problem players.
We can also look at Moroms; since gambling is forbidden by their religion, and they are not a large percentage of casino customers, then they would naturally be under-represented on the most wanted list, by virtue of being a non-gamling population of any sort whatsoever: honest, dishonest, problem player, what have you.
So, if we had a list of NON-problem players, Asians would be represented on THAT list also. And this bears out: if you look at many Las Vegas casinos, you'll see many Asians playing there without any issues or problems whatsoever. Can you give them a Gold Star for that, Bob? I give many Asian players gold stars for being model players at my joint.
Since a greater percentage of Asians are any sort of casino customer, it stands to reason that a certain percentage will be problem players.
We can also look at Moroms; since gambling is forbidden by their religion, and they are not a large percentage of casino customers, then they would naturally be under-represented on the most wanted list, by virtue of being a non-gamling population of any sort whatsoever: honest, dishonest, problem player, what have you.
So, if we had a list of NON-problem players, Asians would be represented on THAT list also. And this bears out: if you look at many Las Vegas casinos, you'll see many Asians playing there without any issues or problems whatsoever. Can you give them a Gold Star for that, Bob? I give many Asian players gold stars for being model players at my joint.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
January 19th, 2012 at 5:46:39 PM
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"most wanted" means these criminals are still at large. Thus we could only conclude that Asian criminals are still out there and that most white / black / Latino criminals have already been caught. That is the only logical explanation of the list. The total population of most criminals could be of any race. It's a simple math problem.
January 19th, 2012 at 6:00:00 PM
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Quote: PaigowdanSince a greater percentage of Asians are any sort of casino customer,
Greater than what? Certainly not greater than whites, or even Latinos.
They play mostly the Asian oriented games, they make up a small
amount of the casinos players.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 19th, 2012 at 6:03:47 PM
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Quote: UCivanThus we could only conclude that Asian criminals are still out there and that most white / black / Latino criminals have already been caught.
The most wanted have nothing to do with who's
been caught and who hasn't, demographics wise.
You could have a list of 300 who haven't gotten
caught, from those you have to pick the top 10
worst offenders. Their ethnicity doesn't enter
into it, just their crimes.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 19th, 2012 at 6:16:40 PM
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They make up a significant portion of casino players, both in the major markets of the West Coast (California and Washington State), the East Coast (AC and Connecticut), and add the LV markets. Pay a trip to Palace Station next time in vegas, you'll see.
Now the Ameristar Casino in Council Bluffs, Iowa is different.
Now the Ameristar Casino in Council Bluffs, Iowa is different.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
January 19th, 2012 at 6:19:00 PM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
January 19th, 2012 at 6:22:20 PM
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Quote: PaigowdanThey make up a significant portion of casino players,
What does that mean, give a number. Are they 50% of the players,
or what. I've been going to Vegas since 75, have things changed
that much since I was there last summer? I didn't see more than few
except at the traditional Asian games, where its 80-100%. I saw
more Asian dealers than Asian players, as usual.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
