rpw612
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December 9th, 2011 at 4:33:27 PM permalink
Hello, Does anyone know where the video crap game made by Shufflemaster is located. This game does not have a dealer. You roll the dice through a virtual screen.
I last saw this game at Barona Casino near San Diego about three years ago. Thank You to all.
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December 9th, 2011 at 4:35:20 PM permalink
I think the one at the Bill's Gambling Hall is made by Shufflemaster.
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December 9th, 2011 at 4:54:50 PM permalink
There's an interesting article about these video table games here:

http://fogofgambling.blogspot.com/2011/12/future-of-table-games.html
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December 9th, 2011 at 5:01:23 PM permalink
Thank You, I understand that one has one live dealer much like roulette where you make bets on a screen.
The video craps I'm talking about is totally self run.
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December 9th, 2011 at 5:12:11 PM permalink
Quote: rpw612

Thank You, I understand that one has one live dealer much like roulette where you make bets on a screen.
The video craps I'm talking about is totally self run.



I don't think it's made by shufflemaster, but there's a video craps where you use a touchscreen to roll dice. It's at Indiana Live! outside Indianapolis.
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December 9th, 2011 at 5:43:31 PM permalink
I have seen it at:

Foxwoods, CT (They had one in the Rainmaker Casino area, in a hallway connector. The last time I was there, it was gone, with the electrical outlets all that remained...)
Yonkers Raceway/Casino in NY (They had several on their second floor)

Both places had a layout similar to Electronic Roulette, and no real dice. Just a touchscreen in front of each player. You could physically touch the screen and "fling" the dice, or just press the "Roll Dice" button, which was one of only a couple of actual electronic (not touch screen) buttons on each player's station.

Her's a small picture of the Yonkers one. Interesting they allow Electronic Craps, Roulette, and Bac, but no BJ?
http://www.yonkersraceway.com/craps/
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December 10th, 2011 at 4:42:31 AM permalink
Club79, Yes thats it, I guess there just not around anymore. Maybe there was to much advantage to the player? Thanks to all.
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December 10th, 2011 at 5:08:16 AM permalink
Quote: cclub79

Interesting they allow Electronic Craps, Roulette, and Bac, but no BJ?

I'm not entirely sure, but I have a feeling it has to do with the fact that players can influence the outcome in BJ by standing, drawing, splitting, etc. (and would therefore be in violation of some gaming regulation). In Craps, Roulette and Baccarat, players only choose which bets to make.
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Maybe there was to much advantage to the player?

What the...? Please explain.
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December 10th, 2011 at 7:00:37 AM permalink
Quote: kaysirtap

I'm not entirely sure, but I have a feeling it has to do with the fact that players can influence the outcome in BJ by standing, drawing, splitting, etc. (and would therefore be in violation of some gaming regulation). In Craps, Roulette and Baccarat, players only choose which bets to make.



That's a valid point. And, if correct, it just shows how silly the different rules are from state to state. In NY, no BJ, just electronic Craps, Roulette, Bac. In FL, ONLY card based games are allowed, no dice, roulette, etc. So you have 3CP, BJ, etc...When I was in FL, I asked the pit boss (who was a AC veteran before moving south) how likely it would be that they'd expand to Craps. He said it would be extremely difficult because the law specifically said "Cards only" and that's how they got a lot of wavering lawmakers to support it. I said that things change, and we've seen many other states expand. He said, true, but don't hold your breath, and if you really want to play Craps, he can get some guys together in the parking lot...He was being sarcastic...I think.
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December 10th, 2011 at 12:24:16 PM permalink
Quote: kaysirtap

There's an interesting article about these video table games here:

http://fogofgambling.blogspot.com/2011/12/future-of-table-games.html

Has anyone ever played the types of games mentioned in this article? In the second part of the article, there are comments about the atmosphere of a video craps game, and I'm wondering if anyone can either confirm or deny this. There are some in my area, and I'm wondering what I could expect to see.
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December 10th, 2011 at 2:37:27 PM permalink
Quote: kaysirtap

Quote: kaysirtap

There's an interesting article about these video table games here:

http://fogofgambling.blogspot.com/2011/12/future-of-table-games.html

Has anyone ever played the types of games mentioned in this article? In the second part of the article, there are comments about the atmosphere of a video craps game, and I'm wondering if anyone can either confirm or deny this. There are some in my area, and I'm wondering what I could expect to see.



I'll confirm for the most part. A lot of times you don't even know which player is shooting when it's on the far side of the bank of chairs. Also, because you don't really know what other people are betting, how can you be sure that you making the hard 10 as the point didn't just blow out someone's Don't Pass? The atmosphere was much more subdued than regular Craps. In fact, there is usually more excitement at the Shufflemaster Blackjack games, because you can see everyone else's cards and obviously when the Dealer Busts, everyone left is a winner. So there's a lot of Cheering and socialization (usually).
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December 15th, 2011 at 5:57:48 AM permalink
Yes, Isn't that true for the regular game? This game is more subdued but it is alot of fun. Wishing all Merry Christmas.
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December 20th, 2011 at 1:26:50 PM permalink
Quote: rpw612

This game is more subdued but it is alot of fun.

Are you still referring to the video craps game in this comment? I'd like to know your thoughts on the fun and/or excitement you (or anyone else) have experienced on video craps if you have played before.
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December 20th, 2011 at 4:48:43 PM permalink
Quote: kaysirtap

In the second part of the article, there are comments about the atmosphere of a video craps game, and I'm wondering if anyone can either confirm or deny this. There are some in my area, and I'm wondering what I could expect to see.


It looks as if you're playing on WinCraps, but this time for real money.
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December 20th, 2011 at 8:15:37 PM permalink
Quote: kaysirtap

Are you still referring to the video craps game in this comment? I'd like to know your thoughts on the fun and/or excitement you (or anyone else) have experienced on video craps if you have played before.



The one time I played Video Craps (at Indiana Live!) I found it to be a very unusual experience. On the one hand, everybody seemed to get into it... on the other hand, there was a feeling that it was "rigged" when one player chose to hit roll dice instead of flinging the screen. My roll went kind of badly, and overall, I ended down a bit.

I agree that the Shufflemaster BJ games with the virtual dealers tend to encourage a bit more socializing. I rather enjoy TCP on those machines, or even MS Stud. There's really no competition, and you can root for other players to win.
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December 20th, 2011 at 11:42:08 PM permalink
Quote: Tiltpoul

I agree that the Shufflemaster BJ games with the virtual dealers tend to encourage a bit more socializing. I rather enjoy TCP on those machines, or even MS Stud. There's really no competition, and you can root for other players to win.

Would you say that you enjoy the games with the virtual dealers more than the ones with real dealers, or vice versa? Or perhaps no preference?
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December 25th, 2011 at 9:55:42 PM permalink
What I dont understand is why everyone assmes that if you go chip-less touch screen for placing the wagers, that means the game itself must be run by an RNG (Random Number Generator, electronic). I cherish the physical randomizers, and knowing what I know about RNGs I know they are never reallly "random", and I just dont trust them.

All of the systems that I suppport are intended for LIVE gaming utilizing chip-less touch screen wagering, and by the way, in support of handicapped access.
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