Mobile Homes in Vegas
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August 12th, 2011 at 4:34:05 PM
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Are there any good mobile home parks around Vegas? I'm still
toying with living there 6 months a year and I don't want to
buy a condo. For 20K cash you can buy a real nice double wide.
The ones from the 70's and early 80's are way better constructed
than the newer ones. I have a relative who lives in a 1975 model
and its very nice inside. The floors are as solid as a real house and
you'd never know you were in a mobile home. I could leave a car
there under a carport and friends and relatives could stay there
when we're gone to save on hotel bills. But it has to be a controlled
park with a lot of rules, no cars up on blocks or crackheads cooking
meth in their spare time.
toying with living there 6 months a year and I don't want to
buy a condo. For 20K cash you can buy a real nice double wide.
The ones from the 70's and early 80's are way better constructed
than the newer ones. I have a relative who lives in a 1975 model
and its very nice inside. The floors are as solid as a real house and
you'd never know you were in a mobile home. I could leave a car
there under a carport and friends and relatives could stay there
when we're gone to save on hotel bills. But it has to be a controlled
park with a lot of rules, no cars up on blocks or crackheads cooking
meth in their spare time.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 12th, 2011 at 4:46:36 PM
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Yes, actually there are.
My wife's cousin and her husband live in one. Good retirement place.
Inside, you might notice that it weren't a wood-framed house.
Outside, the community does look "regimented," - sort of like military barracks.
Very quiet, no noise-makers or troublemakers, everyone tends to their lot - not hard to do.
Riff-raff are gone for miles (they're up in NLV)
Personally, middle-class houses and condos are very affordable here, too, now.
My wife's cousin and her husband live in one. Good retirement place.
Inside, you might notice that it weren't a wood-framed house.
Outside, the community does look "regimented," - sort of like military barracks.
Very quiet, no noise-makers or troublemakers, everyone tends to their lot - not hard to do.
Riff-raff are gone for miles (they're up in NLV)
Personally, middle-class houses and condos are very affordable here, too, now.
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August 12th, 2011 at 4:56:43 PM
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Quote: Paigowdan
Personally, middle-class houses and condos are very affordable here, too, now.
Yeah, but not for 20K. And you have to pay that condo fee every
month, in a mobile home you just pay lot rent. Own it and use it
for 10 years and sell it for what you paid. Sounding better and better.
Older models hold their value if you keep them maintained. For
just two older adults, its really not a bad way to go.
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August 12th, 2011 at 7:17:01 PM
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A search on realtor.com shows 23 mobile homes $25000 or less currently on the market.
August 12th, 2011 at 9:00:47 PM
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Quote: matildaA search on realtor.com shows 23 mobile homes $25000 or less currently on the market.
Thats only a fraction of them, most aren't listed there.
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August 12th, 2011 at 9:06:38 PM
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Yes, indeed.
An amazing number of very fine homes - both trailer-based and wood/brick/cement based - are available.
Bob, - Welcome!
An amazing number of very fine homes - both trailer-based and wood/brick/cement based - are available.
Bob, - Welcome!
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August 12th, 2011 at 9:11:53 PM
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Quote: PaigowdanYes, indeed.
An amazing number of very fine homes - both trailer-based and wood/brick/cement based - are available.
Mobile homes got a bad rap for decades. But modern technology builds them so well
now that home experts say they can easily last 100 years if you take care of them. The
well built ones, anyway. Its the trailer park thats important, the more regulations the
better.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 12th, 2011 at 9:27:43 PM
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Quote: EvenBobMotor homes got a bad rap for decades. But modern technology builds them so well
now that home experts say they can easily last 100 years if you take care of them. The
well built ones, anyway. Its the trailer park thats important, the more regulations the
better.
Bob, absolutely - and seriously.
Most of the parks we have are very established communities.
Very safe and established. Most are for 50+.
And most are surrounded by gated surburban communities.
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August 12th, 2011 at 9:38:52 PM
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Quote: EvenBobThats only a fraction of them, most aren't listed there.
hello, craigslist
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/search/rea?query=mobile+home&srchType=A&minAsk=&maxAsk=&bedrooms=
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August 12th, 2011 at 9:43:13 PM
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The way to do it is pick the park you want to live in
and see whats for sale there.
and see whats for sale there.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 12th, 2011 at 10:07:34 PM
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Quote: EvenBobThats only a fraction of them, most aren't listed there.
Only the ones that are on multiple listing. No FSBOs or non-members of the National Association of Realtors.
August 13th, 2011 at 5:34:43 AM
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EvenBob wrote: "But it has to be a controlled park with a lot of rules, no cars up on blocks or crackheads cooking
meth in their spare time."
Would you rule out a place with meth-heads smoking crack, too?
meth in their spare time."
Would you rule out a place with meth-heads smoking crack, too?
August 13th, 2011 at 5:36:21 AM
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Quote: Woldus
Would you rule out a place with meth-heads smoking crack, too?
Now thats a different story. Are they young and attractive?
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August 13th, 2011 at 5:39:26 AM
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For the first few months yeah...and they've got tons of energy...then it sorta peters out and you're left with no furniture or appliances and huge dental/medical bills. But on the bright side when you torch the place for insurance money you'll be able to start over somewhere else.
August 13th, 2011 at 7:13:07 AM
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Quote: EvenBobMobile homes got a bad rap for decades. But modern technology builds them so well
now that home experts say they can easily last 100 years if you take care of them. The
well built ones, anyway. Its the trailer park thats important, the more regulations the
better.
I've got a built in bias against mobile homes, because we get too many tornados here in Missouri. I guess that would be a much smaller issue in LV. Certainly the financials work in your favor versus hotels or condos.
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August 13th, 2011 at 7:48:00 AM
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This took quite literally less than one minute to find:
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2 bedroom, 2 bathroom near UNLV and looks very nice.
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This home went from being valued at $200,000 in early 2007 to $26,200 currently. Not much downside left!!
Zillow
2 bedroom, 2 bathroom near UNLV and looks very nice.
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This home went from being valued at $200,000 in early 2007 to $26,200 currently. Not much downside left!!
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August 13th, 2011 at 9:18:33 AM
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Quote: EvenBobFor 20K cash you can buy a real nice double wide.
The ones from the 70's and early 80's are way better constructed
than the newer ones. I have a relative who lives in a 1975 model
and its very nice inside. The floors are as solid as a real house and
you'd never know you were in a mobile home.
You are completely right about 1970s mobile homes being nicer, better-constructed, and more house-like. I lived in a 1977 14x72 for a few years in the 1990s; friends would come over and immediately say, "This is a trailer?" It had wood, brick, and tile interior panelling and a wood-burning fireplace. Also, back then fire codes allowed the front door to aim into a front hall, rather than directly into the living room, which helped make things more house-like.
But I think that 20K is too much for the vintage that you want. I bought my 1970s trailer for around 12K in the mid-1990s.
EDIT: A bonus in buying an older mobile home is that your property tax will be next to nothing. Mine sure was.
August 13th, 2011 at 7:28:00 PM
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Quote: s2dbakerThis took quite literally less than one minute to find:
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But its a condo, which is another word for apartment. I hate apartments,
you have noisy neighbors, you run into strangers in the hallways, and
you have an obnoxious condo fee every month.
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August 13th, 2011 at 10:40:31 PM
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Get an actual mobile trailer; park at Walmart or some other large parking lot until they detect you. People do that shit. More lately, I think.
There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
August 13th, 2011 at 10:46:40 PM
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Quote: rxwineGet an actual mobile trailer; park at Walmart or some other large parking lot until they detect you. People do that shit. More lately, I think.
Yeah, my wife would go for that. Its doesn't quite fit our lifestyle.
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August 14th, 2011 at 6:27:40 PM
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Quote: EvenBobNow thats a different story. Are they young and attractive?
Not for long...
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
August 14th, 2011 at 10:41:02 PM
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Quote: rxwineGet an actual mobile trailer; park at Walmart or some other large parking lot until they detect you. People do that shit. More lately, I think.
Many big-box discount stores allow RVs to dry camp for 3 days at a time. There are some permanent residents in conversion vans and RVs at a Target store near me. I couldn't do it -- I need more room to spread out with a roof over my head -- but lots of people can live in small spaces. On the other hand, there's not much chance of buying a decent RV for 20k, but on the other other hand, there are no property taxes or land rents. RV park hookups are also cheaper than land rents in mobile home parks (usually).
My in-laws are looking at RVs and they say the market has tanked. Apparently now's a good time to buy. And if you can handle living in one it's probably your cheapest option in the long run. Plus, if you don't like your neighbors, you can move whenever you want. :)
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August 14th, 2011 at 10:58:17 PM
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Quote: MathExtremistPlus, if you don't like your neighbors, you can move whenever you want. :)
That certainly one of the biggest pluses! (if you ask me)
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August 14th, 2011 at 11:13:52 PM
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Quote: MathExtremistAnd if you can handle living in one it's probably your cheapest option in the long run.
Honey, lets move to Vegas and live in a Walmart parking lot. Why not live in the sewers under LV, thats cheap too.
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August 14th, 2011 at 11:21:02 PM
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Quote: MathExtremist... -- but lots of people can live in small spaces.
Been there, done that. You're right, but wrong in a way...
Bought a luxury co-op (co-operative apartment) in New York City in 1997 for $20K. Prior to that I had a two-bedroom rental right by Manhattan College in Riverdale. I Sold it in 2005 for $140,000. It was a 351 square foot "square box" studio that I tried to live in with my first (now -ex) wife. Mortgage was $290/month for 7 years, maintenance was $790 - fully paid off when sold, moved to Vegas after I was an "outsourced" mainframe computer programmer.
It had:
- Concierge;
- indoor parking.
- a Pool that overlooked the Hudson River.
- Library
- Gymnasium
- every pompous ass of a neighbor that you could think of, straight out of a fucking sitcom, including a New York City Police officer/Corrections Officer neighbor who used to try to take pictures of me and my wife tearing off a piece in our place - from his adjacent patio/balcony. Remember that place very well. [We bought floor-to ceiling solid wood Venetian blinds for our patio floor-to-ceiling windows and door, and a patio motion detector for that one.]
The place WAS too small indeed - my ex-wife and I could NEVER get out of our mutual line-of-site at home, no less the horny neighbor cop, no matter how hard our workdays were, with NO private enclaves to escape awaywhere that human beings need - even if married or long-term lovers or what-have-you.
I remember an old boss of mine {Glenn N., a systems programmer for Unisys and my first "real" boss} telling me, "Y'know, Dan, a six bedroom apartment or a real house CAN indeed be a REAL marriage saver. You place is too fucking small for your marriage to work. Trust me."
I now live in a one bedroom condo in LV, and my current wife and I work completely different shifts, DAY and Swing. That is like adding two rooms to your house or condo.
Quote: MathExtremist/StacyOn the other hand, there's not much chance of buying a decent RV for 20k, but on the other other hand, there are no property taxes or land rents. RV park hookups are also cheaper than land rents in mobile home parks (usually).
REAL real estate in Clark county is so damn cheap it's nuts..
Quote: MathExtremistMy in-laws are looking at RVs and they say the market has tanked. Apparently now's a good time to buy. And if you can handle living in one it's probably your cheapest option in the long run.
RV, home, condo, an apartment building with twenty tennants..buy, buy, buy...
Quote: StacyTheManPlus, if you don't like your neighbors, you can move whenever you want. :)
Especially if you own five or six homes for the price of one.
REALLY good time to be a landlord.
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August 14th, 2011 at 11:43:07 PM
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Quote: EvenBobHoney, lets move to Vegas and live in a Walmart parking lot. Why not live in the sewers under LV, thats cheap too.
Bob, you're daring us to expect this from you.
You said it, you came up with it, and it is how you are showing us openly how you can think.
Please stop it.
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
August 15th, 2011 at 12:24:32 AM
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Quote: PaigowdanBob, you're daring us to expect this from you.
You said it, you came up with it, and it is how you are showing us openly how you can think.
Please stop it.
You think living in a nice mobile home park is the same as living in Walmart's
parking lot? I suggested a mobile home because its practical. Pay 20K, live
there for 10 years, no mortgage, no condo fee's, and sell it for what you paid.
Cheap has nothing to with anything, its being practical that counts. Why would
I want a condo if I'm only going to live there for 6 months out of the year.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 15th, 2011 at 10:33:27 AM
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I've always wondered what the AC bills would be like in those things. A friend of mine said in the summer his basically never shut off.
August 15th, 2011 at 11:02:14 AM
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Quote: EvenBobYou think living in a nice mobile home park is the same as living in Walmart's
parking lot? I suggested a mobile home because its practical. Pay 20K, live
there for 10 years, no mortgage, no condo fee's, and sell it for what you paid.
Cheap has nothing to with anything, its being practical that counts. Why would
I want a condo if I'm only going to live there for 6 months out of the year.
If you could find a way to rent the condo for the other 6 months, perhaps. Hassle factor could be far too high. Another consideration : houseswaps/housesits for longer periods?
I know a friend's parents who live in a RV for about 3 months of the year while touring. Their RV isn't (even close to) a 20 grand job though (and they don't park in Walmart's either).
They tend to hit up a one or two different places when they go through Vegas, and several places in the South... RVing near casinos is apparently a reasonable way to do it, if touring is your aim... which it's clearly not. They drive it back up to Canada each time, and it serves as a spare room/suite for visitors. I kinda envy that. Not too dissimilar to some of the boating crowd that tramp around for a long periods of time.
But for what you say you want to do, dropping 20K on a trailer park home seems reasonable, depending on the incremental costs of keeping it (and there is some risk in 10 years it's not worth what you paid for it 2011, if Vegas fails to get any better, or the park goes downhill). If you lost all 20k - you are only out $166 per month for the 10 years. Plus ground rent/hook up fees.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
August 15th, 2011 at 2:01:21 PM
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Quote: EvenBobHoney, lets move to Vegas and live in a Walmart parking lot. Why not live in the sewers under LV, thats cheap too.
Because the Fontainbleau has a better view.
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August 15th, 2011 at 4:04:21 PM
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Quote: thlfI've always wondered what the AC bills would be like in those things. A friend of mine said in the summer his basically never shut off.
You wouldn't have AC. You would have a swamp cooler--not as expensive.
