darkoz
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December 25th, 2009 at 1:48:42 PM permalink
I was recently in a casino playing single zero roulette when this guy came up to the table and bet twice.

He lost, then stated to me that he was switching to the double zero tables because he couldn't abide by how the casino tried to cheat him with the single zero option.

When I enquired what he meant by that, he explained the casino saw how he had an extra number to win by at the double zero table and had removed it, thereby giving him less chances(choices of numbers) to win at.

I tried correcting his understanding of the situation, but he was in a rush to get to his "more fair" double zero table.

Sad!
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December 25th, 2009 at 1:54:15 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I was recently in a casino playing single zero roulette when this guy came up to the table and bet twice.

He lost, then stated to me that he was switching to the double zero tables because he couldn't abide by how the casino tried to cheat him with the single zero option.

When I enquired what he meant by that, he explained the casino saw how he had an extra number to win by at the double zero table and had removed it, thereby giving him less chances(choices of numbers) to win at.

I tried correcting his understanding of the situation, but he was in a rush to get to his "more fair" double zero table.

Sad!



You don't see so much of that thing at the local casinos, mostly a strip phenomenon. That's why Aria can have a bank of 0 bally's machines directly across from a bank of 00's, and the 00's will be at a higher capacity.
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December 25th, 2009 at 1:59:42 PM permalink
Pretty hilarious story. Most people I have talked to understand that one zero is better, but they think it makes little difference because its just one more number and there are a lot anyway.

I can't imagine how logic would allow you to think that a double-zero wheel is better. Vegas should make a triple-zero table for this guy.
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December 25th, 2009 at 2:10:44 PM permalink
Quote: pocketaces

Pretty hilarious story. Most people I have talked to understand that one zero is better, but they think it makes little difference because its just one more number and there are a lot anyway.

I can't imagine how logic would allow you to think that a double-zero wheel is better. Vegas should make a triple-zero table for this guy.



Maybe just recommend a good Mexican cactus space wheel.
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December 25th, 2009 at 4:18:06 PM permalink
At the Aria there are a bunch of roulette games in one spot, I think 6 or 8. One of them has European rules, and the rest are double zero. When I was there yesterday the number of people playing the European wheel -- zero. There were lots of players on the double-zero wheels. Maybe the $25 minimum on the Euro wheel had something to do with it, but surely at the Aria (which looks very expensive) they had some $25 players.
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December 26th, 2009 at 4:29:31 AM permalink
Quote: MrPapagiorgio

You don't see so much of that thing at the local casinos, mostly a strip phenomenon.

A perfect example of how an unlimited supply of sheep can be found. Just dub the town sincity, have flashing lights, free booze and lots of pretty girls walking around! No wonder The Evil Empire went after that fanny-pack market.
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December 26th, 2009 at 5:29:04 AM permalink
Penn Jillette, of the Penn & Teller duo, called Vegas a city built on bad math. Now we have proof ;)

I had a similar argument with a friend once. At the time we played lotto along with five other people. The game went from 39 numbers to 45. He claimed now we had better odds! What's scary is he had an engineering degree.
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December 28th, 2009 at 11:50:36 AM permalink
This is the same reason I prefer 6-5 BJ (cough cough). Who wants to just win 3 when 6 is available?

Maybe if we can convince more ploppys of these egregious advantages to be had then it will open up spaces for us at our more preferable locations of gaming.

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December 28th, 2009 at 1:07:10 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I was recently in a casino playing single zero roulette when this guy came up to the table and bet twice.

He lost, then stated to me that he was switching to the double zero tables because he couldn't abide by how the casino tried to cheat him with the single zero option.

When I enquired what he meant by that, he explained the casino saw how he had an extra number to win by at the double zero table and had removed it, thereby giving him less chances(choices of numbers) to win at.

I tried correcting his understanding of the situation, but he was in a rush to get to his "more fair" double zero table.

Sad!



Perhaps he was on vacation from his job at the CBO and was the guy who predicted the health care bill will be "deficit neutral?"

You should have asked him it the light on the vacuum cleaner was for in case the power went off.......
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December 28th, 2009 at 3:31:30 PM permalink
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What's scary is he had an engineering degree.

So did the engineer that designed Galloping Gertie, the Tacoma Narrows Bridge that collapsed in a windstorm the first week it opened. Degree, license and stellar reputation!

I think sometimes that those mathematically absurd statements are fostered by casino publicity agents. Someday I expect to hear one person claiming to feel a bit tired and saying "we should go down to the casino now since we will be getting extra oxygen there".
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December 28th, 2009 at 7:42:39 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Someday I expect to hear one person claiming to feel a bit tired and saying "we should go down to the casino now since we will be getting extra oxygen there".

There's extra oxygen in the casino?


Hmmm....


That explains why I always feel so tired when I hit the pillow in my casino hotel room at 4am....
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December 29th, 2009 at 2:39:40 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

There's extra oxygen in the casino?

The fact that casinos pump pure oxygen into a casino to make the gamblers more prone to linger in the casino is a fact well known to those who believe a Double-Zero wheel is better than a Single-Zero wheel. Its also well known to those who know that 6:5 is better than 3:2. I have this information from an unimpeachable source, a professional keno player who also knows how to control the dice in a craps game!
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December 29th, 2009 at 10:27:09 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

So did the engineer that designed Galloping Gertie, the Tacoma Narrows Bridge that collapsed in a windstorm the first week it opened. Degree, license and stellar reputation!



Sure, the designer failed to take the wind into account, or sufficientely into account. But did he bet on balck on a double-zero wheel and expect a 50/50 chance of winning?

Quote: FleaStiff

Someday I expect to hear one person claiming to feel a bit tired and saying "we should go down to the casino now since we will be getting extra oxygen there".



I think that particular bit of urban lore can be traced to an old ep of, I think, "Night Gallery." At a casino, late at night, a man makes a bet with a stranger to light a cigarette lighter ten times in a row. If the stranger wins he gets the man's car. If he loses, the man will chop off his left pinky.

When the stranger is thinkign it over, he mentions to his girlfriend that casinos pump extra oxygen to keep patrons alert and itnerested, so he has better odds of succeeding.

Maybe the myth didn't originate there, but that's where I first ran across it.
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December 29th, 2009 at 10:58:14 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

... an old ep of, I think, "Night Gallery."



I believe that was from a latter day Alfred Hitchcock series. I am willing to bet [ha] it was the ep. with John Huston , "Man from the South". That was a good episode in a fair series.

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As I remember this was a great episode, Huston was really great in it. He plays an old man at a Casino who befriends a guy, eventually offering $1 million [?] if he will allow him [Huston] to chop off a finger in private. The plot has the guy thinking and thinking, eventually accepting. With much suspense, hatchet raised, someone breaks in or something and stops it. He meets Huston's wife or girlfriend, and that obviously very rich person leads Huston away to be locked up or something, explaining Huston is a nut who now has no money. As the clincher at the end she takes off her glove to show all the fingers chopped off on one hand.











































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December 29th, 2009 at 11:10:56 AM permalink
admittedly, those don't sound like exactly the same plot, but
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