Question for mrjjj
My question to you is this. The Wizard says that no roulette system can overcome the house edge and win. Is the Wizard wrong?
I am strongly reconsidering my free speech policy. If and when I unfortunately have to do that, I plan to ban the most nasty, annoying, and abusive members. Mrjjj, you are currently on the top of the list.
For now, consider this a warning to concentrate more on quality as opposed to quantity of posts. In particular, I have a short fuse for reposting the same crap over and over until you get a response.
Quote: MarieBicurieYou've said that you are a winning roulette player. You also say that Advantage Play in roulette is for suckers and biased wheels don't exist anymore. So you are obviously using a system to beat roulette and have found a way to win against a 5.26% house edge effectively without relying on defective gaming equipment.
My question to you is this. The Wizard says that no roulette system can overcome the house edge and win. Is the Wizard wrong?
WOW, if I didn't post a thread in this section (today) I would of never even seen this. My first point....can you choose your WORDING a little better?
'winning roulette player', 'bias wheels dont exist anymore', 'system'(?), 'beat roulette', 'win against',
Can you clean up the question? I'll be more than happy to respond.
Ken
Quote: mrjjjWOW, if I didn't post a thread in this section (today) I would of never even seen this. My first point....can you choose your WORDING a little better?
'winning roulette player', 'bias wheels dont exist anymore', 'system'(?), 'beat roulette', 'win against',
Can you clean up the question? I'll be more than happy to respond.
Ken
Can't breathe. Laughing too hard...(cough). (lol)
Quote: buzzpaffFrom October last year from Wiz to mrjjj
I am strongly reconsidering my free speech policy. If and when I unfortunately have to do that, I plan to ban the most nasty, annoying, and abusive members. Mrjjj, you are currently on the top of the list.
For now, consider this a warning to concentrate more on quality as opposed to quantity of posts. In particular, I have a short fuse for reposting the same crap over and over until you get a response.
First point, why are you responding to MY question?
"concentrate more on quality" >> Is that CODE for.....go along with the masses? Gang-like? Sorry, cant do it.
"as opposed to quantity of posts" >> You forgot to mention something in terms of QUANTITY. Most (not all) of those posts are in RESPONSE to a post. So if I get 7 posts of either a question or an insult, of course 7 posts will be going out. I thought this was a math forum? 7 in, 7 out, seems simple.
I dont post the same thing over and over. Does that mean copy/paste? If I post two different roulette methods, does that count as 'over and over'?
Ken
Quote: rdw4potusCan't breathe. Laughing too hard...(cough). (lol)
Less adjectives and a more simple question. Quote me correctly or dont quote me at all. Now I'm laughing my a** off (ROFL)
Ken
It's a simple yes or no question that can't be made any clearer than that.
Quote: s2dbakerMy bathing suit is covered in hybiscus blossoms.
...and this replaces (I don't remember??) as my nominee for WOV quote of the year.
thank you, thank you. I'm here til Tuesday, try the veal.Quote: rdw4potus...and this replaces (I don't remember??) as my nominee for WOV quote of the year.
Have you ever noticed how the "system" creators are a little bit nuts?
Quote: MarieBicurieSimple yes or no mrjjj. I'm waiting.
People who can't answer a direct question, or won't answer it because it commits them, will always obfuscate or dodge it.
It happens in all areas of life.
ALL. areas.
Quote: ItsCalledSoccerPeople who can't answer a direct question, or won't answer it because it commits them, will always obfuscate or dodge it.
It happens in all areas of life.
ALL. areas.
Give Ken a break, he always answers everything, he also goes to the casino almost every day, he's probably there right now. Yes I know him, yes he does win more than he loses, no he doesn't think it will last forever. He just knows enough to pay attention and change what he's doing enough to not let it get ahead of him.
Quote: EvenBobGive Ken a break, he always answers everything, he also goes to the casino almost every day, he's probably there right now. Yes I know him, yes he does win more than he loses, no he doesn't think it will last forever. He just knows enough to pay attention and change what he's doing enough to not let it get ahead of him.
Thats fine EvenBob, thanks. I can handle 16 Wizard boards and a dozen JP boards, big deal. Yes, I always answer (or at least I try), a little busy at this EXACT minute. Was at the casino earlier today, did alright.
Ken
Quote: mrjjjThats fine EvenBob, thanks. I can handle 16 Wizard boards and a dozen JP boards, big deal. Yes, I always answer (or at least I try), a little busy at this EXACT minute. Was at the casino earlier today, did alright.
Ken
You wrote three sentences in response to Bob, but you couldn't write "yes" or "no" in response to Marie's question which was posted first? Please...
mrjjj, very simple yes or no will do. I don't want to have to resort to posting my question in every one of you threads like you post your questions in the rest of ours just to get a dang answer.
My question to you is this. The Wizard says that no roulette system can overcome the house edge and win. Is the Wizard wrong?
But what's the point of the question? Are you on a mission to expose a Wizard-doubting heretic?
I mean, the guy's nuts. Everyone, who read any one of his posts can tell it. How in the world does it matter if he thinks Wizard is wrong.
Unlike (most of the) other claims he is making, this one wouldn't be so outrageous. Wizard has been wrong before, albeit, not often. I don't think he himself would claim that he is always right.
Mrjjj posts about betting systems on a discussion forum entitled "Betting Systems." For that, he gets attacked. In the debate over the GLBT forum, some argued, "If you don't want to read it, don't go there." Mrjjj doesn't get the same consideration.
I can see where Mrjjj's writing style may grate. But all he's done is post in the appropriate forum, looking for a discussion of betting systems with others who use them. And for that, someone tries to organize posters to collectively block him -- no room at the Cool Kids' lunch table for you, Mrjjj!
I think betting systems are hooey, as does the owner of this site. But did the Wizard provide the Betting Systems forum just so those who post there can be ridiculed?
Mrjjj seems to have two goals here - claiming that the notion that certain "advantage players" can reduce games down to their mathematical essence and therefore determine which games can or cannot be beaten over the long term is incorrect, and claiming that the gambler's fallacy is not a fallacy. The problem that annoys people, other than the trolling, seems to be that Mrjjj implies there is a link between his two points without every stating what it is. Essentially he is JerryLogan without the made up theories on "secret regulations" that justify his "you have to play like a man, not a computer" claim.
Yes.Quote: Calder[D]id the Wizard provide the Betting Systems forum just so those who post there can be ridiculed?
Quote: CalderMrjjj posts about betting systems on a discussion forum entitled "Betting Systems." For that, he gets attacked. In the debate over the GLBT forum, some argued, "If you don't want to read it, don't go there." Mrjjj doesn't get the same consideration.
I can see where Mrjjj's writing style may grate. But all he's done is post in the appropriate forum, looking for a discussion of betting systems with others who use them. And for that, someone tries to organize posters to collectively block him -- no room at the Cool Kids' lunch table for you, Mrjjj!
+1 (google+ jargon)
Fellow members, judge Ken all you want. His writing style (as Calder points out) certainly calls for it. But what I see in Mr.JJJ is someone who has an incredible passion for the game of roulette. So much so...he can't contain it within himself and feels the need to share his experiences with others. It's not always easy to articulate such passion in the written form. But I get it. Math & logic can never explain one's love for a particular game of chance, so asking Ken to answer a logical question is a waste of time. Is the WOV wrong? No. But a lot of you put too much faith in the GOD of HA - almost fanatical. Gambling IS illogical. Why do we even gamble if the House has an advantage? Math and logic can and will NEVER explain this. You can live your life within reason or logic, but you will never "live" unless you develop a passion for something. So Mr.JJJ...keep playing what you're playing....keep doing what you love to do. The math guys are only trying to help. Take it for what it is.
Quote: MarieBicurieMy question to you is this. The Wizard says that no roulette system can overcome the house edge and win. Is the Wizard wrong?
It's a simple yes or no question that can't be made any clearer than that.
I cant even get 24 hours? Show some class next time. You should be ashamed of yourself. I NEVER demand an answer in 7 minutes, NEVER. Show some class, you're better than that.
How about if I word it how I want to SINCE your question is TOO VAGUE. Then YOU can decide. Its not a YES or NO.
First off, I dont play systems.
"overcome the house edge and win" >>> Over what time period? One day? Do you see why the question is not YES or NO?
Here is my answer. Always has been my answer but I see ONCE AGAIN, I have to REPEAT myself >>> I currently play 4-6 different methods. Two of them have not 'tanked' over a long period of time. Meaning, they are still making a 'decent' profit. Why should I quit playing them, it would be stupid (in my opinion).
Any other method that I feel is 'good' (definitions again) I play it until it slowly starts to tank. I then kick it to the side and NEVER play it again. All of those methods are written in a notebook so I dont repeat my idea years later. So in the last 4 years (it was 3.5 years) I am making a very nice income. My only income? No. Hate the game, not me. Prior to 4 years, I was getting my a** kicked big time. I posted regarding that MANY times (not here). I was big betting on 'due', I did more progressions back then, did my Marty betting on the evens etc.
Trial & error.....I cant say it enough.
Its NOT my fault if others are so damn afraid of roulette, I laugh my a** off at the idea. I HATE using the word 'beat', so no need to ever ask me THAT question. Do I do well NOW? 100% yes, so what? Why is that bad? Should I be embarrassed? Dont post about it?
Like I said, how was I suppose to sum all that up into a YES or NO?
Ken
Quote: ItsCalledSoccerPeople who can't answer a direct question, or won't answer it because it commits them, will always obfuscate or dodge it.
It happens in all areas of life.
ALL. areas.
I agree with that 1000000% Take Keyser/Herb/Snowjob for example. I did not give him 7 minutes to answer my questions, we are well over TWO years and still no answers. (ROFL)
Ken
Quote: rdw4potusYou wrote three sentences in response to Bob, but you couldn't write "yes" or "no" in response to Marie's question which was posted first? Please...
You have yet to answer me sir. First page of this thread. Take your time BUT as a week goes by, yes I'll be asking again. Thanks man.
Ken
Quote: MarieBicurieThis is beyond ridiculous. mrjjj demands everyone else answer his ridiculous and convoluted questions, but runs an hides when I ask him one very direct and simple one. What a complete joke. Why EvenBob defends him at every turn is beyond me.
mrjjj, very simple yes or no will do. I don't want to have to resort to posting my question in every one of you threads like you post your questions in the rest of ours just to get a dang answer.
My question to you is this. The Wizard says that no roulette system can overcome the house edge and win. Is the Wizard wrong?
Lets look at the ratio. Myself answering compared to others answering....it has to be around 6:1, easily.
Ken
Quote: mrjjjYou have yet to answer me sir. First page of this thread. Take your time BUT as a week goes by, yes I'll be asking again. Thanks man.
Ken
What on the first page of this thread do you think that you asked me? Can you quote it? I don't see any questions to me there.
Quote: mrjjjLets look at the ratio. Myself answering compared to others answering....it has to be around 6:1, easily.
Ken
Sure. Now if only it was 1:6...
Quote: weaselmanObviously, the answer (his answer) is "yes". Or, he just doesn't know what he is talking about at all.
But what's the point of the question? Are you on a mission to expose a Wizard-doubting heretic?
I mean, the guy's nuts. Everyone, who read any one of his posts can tell it. How in the world does it matter if he thinks Wizard is wrong.
Unlike (most of the) other claims he is making, this one wouldn't be so outrageous. Wizard has been wrong before, albeit, not often. I don't think he himself would claim that he is always right.
I have read many of your posts weaselman. You are a bit south of crazy, sorry bro. You're another guy that demands a 21 gun salute everytime you enter a casino. If I cant win, you cant either. Same rule for everyone.
Ken
Quote: CalderI can't pass judgement on Mrjjj's mental health, but it seems to me the problem lay with the site.
Mrjjj posts about betting systems on a discussion forum entitled "Betting Systems." For that, he gets attacked. In the debate over the GLBT forum, some argued, "If you don't want to read it, don't go there." Mrjjj doesn't get the same consideration.
I can see where Mrjjj's writing style may grate. But all he's done is post in the appropriate forum, looking for a discussion of betting systems with others who use them. And for that, someone tries to organize posters to collectively block him -- no room at the Cool Kids' lunch table for you, Mrjjj!
I think betting systems are hooey, as does the owner of this site. But did the Wizard provide the Betting Systems forum just so those who post there can be ridiculed?
Wow, someone has the balls to go against the masses, thanks. You are correct. I offered no foul language, no links, I sell nothing, I like to shoot the breeze about roulette, so what? No fouls from me. I LOVE this game and spend more time on it than anyone can possibly imagine. There SHOULD be a reward for all my hard work......for the last 4 years, I have been collecting. Again, so what? In my opinion, I think its hatred towards another who does not give up. Thats my opinion and I will NEVER change it.
VERY TRUE >> "And for that, someone tries to organize posters to collectively block him".
Ken
Quote: Calder
Mrjjj posts about betting systems on a discussion forum entitled "Betting Systems." For that, he gets attacked. In the debate over the GLBT forum, some argued, "If you don't want to read it, don't go there." Mrjjj doesn't get the same consideration.
The compromise that was reached with the GLBT forum was that new posts there do not appear in the recent threads on the main page. I, for one, would be very much in favor of the betting systems forum being handled the same way.
Quote: sunrise089Actually Mrjjj's first post in a thread is usually silly but appropriate, however almost all of his follow-up posts are pure trolling. Quick examples: 1) multiple posts for every point he wants to make or person he wants to respond to, 2) playing dumb when anyone confronts him directly and instead demanding that they answer a question he posed in some unspecified manner while claiming any question asked of him is too unclear to reply to, and 3) spinning his wheels by using "lol," "lmao," "broken dream APs," etc as word soup without meaning.
Mrjjj seems to have two goals here - claiming that the notion that certain "advantage players" can reduce games down to their mathematical essence and therefore determine which games can or cannot be beaten over the long term is incorrect, and claiming that the gambler's fallacy is not a fallacy. The problem that annoys people, other than the trolling, seems to be that Mrjjj implies there is a link between his two points without every stating what it is. Essentially he is JerryLogan without the made up theories on "secret regulations" that justify his "you have to play like a man, not a computer" claim.
I love your definition of trolling. I answer insults OR questions and I'm 'trolling', ummm yeah.
What? >> "you have to play like a man, not a computer".
"claiming that the gambler's fallacy is not a fallacy" >>> Can you show me where I said that, thanks. All I said is that NOT EVERY situation in betting (roulette) is gamblers fallacy. Dont TWIST my words next time.
"playing dumb when anyone confronts him directly" >>> Wrong but a nice try. I'll give ya a 6/10 for the effort. I'm more than happy to answer BUT I need more than 7 minutes and if a question is VAGUE, I need it to be more specific. If thats playing dumb, then I am guilty.
Ken
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Fellow members, judge Ken all you want. His writing style (as Calder points out) certainly calls for it. But what I see in Mr.JJJ is someone who has an incredible passion for the game of roulette. So much so...he can't contain it within himself and feels the need to share his experiences with others. It's not always easy to articulate such passion in the written form. But I get it. Math & logic can never explain one's love for a particular game of chance, so asking Ken to answer a logical question is a waste of time. Is the WOV wrong? No. But a lot of you put too much faith in the GOD of HA - almost fanatical. Gambling IS illogical. Why do we even gamble if the House has an advantage? Math and logic can and will NEVER explain this. You can live your life within reason or logic, but you will never "live" unless you develop a passion for something. So Mr.JJJ...keep playing what you're playing....keep doing what you love to do. The math guys are only trying to help. Take it for what it is.
"he can't contain it within himself and feels the need to share his experiences with others. It's not always easy to articulate such passion in the written form" >>> Very well said. I could NOT of said it like that, I dont know how.
Ken
Quote: rdw4potusWhat on the first page of this thread do you think that you asked me? Can you quote it? I don't see any questions to me there.
Sorry, sorry...I admit when I'm wrong. I meant.....buzzpaff. I have like 27 posts to respond to on 4 different boards, got confused.
Ken
Quote: EvenBobI've been exchanging emails with Ken for years, and know him from roulette forums as well. He's absolutely legit, he plays roulette almost every day and he wins more than he loses. He's one of those guys who discovered the game and started winning, and then realized all the experts were saying he can't be winning. Nobody here can do what he does, he uses 40 and 50 step progressions that will stop your heart. He has to lose eventually, the math doesn't lie. But statistically it might not happen in his lifetime. The problem you have with him is he's trying to explain a math oriented game and he has no math background. So he does it his way. All he cares about is he's still winning, and really, what else matters.
And because I dont have that math background, there is only one option left. Its the LONG WAY of doing things, I have to do it through trial and error. I can not rely on the math guys for advice. Do NOT take that as an insult, to anyone. Not every darn roulette method is the SAME.....I dont care who says I'm wrong about that. Years ago I started with a stupid Marty betting method and NOW? Holy smokes......not even close to how things use to be and thank God for that.
@People >> Quit being so scared of this game. Study it for 14 hours a day, six days a week for YEARS. Stop throwing in the towel after a month of trying.
Ken
