A couple of questions on crap

Here are a couple of questions on craps. I’m thinking that my wife and I should play craps at the same table with me betting on the pass line and my wife betting on the don’t pass line. As a team will we break even? If I show my players card and we play for eight hours at $100 a hand each will I get comped?

Yes, you'll get comped. No, you won't break even. You'll lose on every 12 that is rolled, and at $100/roll the losses will exceed the comps.

As rdw4potus stated, whenever a 12 is rolled, you will lose. This will allow the casino to make their money.

Here is a breakdown (math people, please check). I am estimating 40 points per hour at an average semi busy craps table and I am assuming that the $100 bet is straight up on the pass/don't pass and does not factor in odds.

Passline:
$100 x 40 bets per hour x 1.414% HA x 8 hours = $452.48 theoretical loss

Don't Pass:
$100 x 40 bets per hour x 1.36% HA x 8 hours = $435.20 theoretical loss

Total:
$452.48 + $435.20 = $887.68 total theoretical loss

Most casinos will comp you somewhere between 25% to 40% of your theoretical loss.

Your "strategy" will definately help with variance and reduce swings, unless the evil 12 is rolled a lot. My suggestion, however, is to combine your action with your wife and only play the passline or don't pass for $200 total. While the theoretical loss is about the same as your method, having a bigger bet out there of $200 will attract more attention from the pit staff and therefore hosts, and you might be able to score more discretionary comps from them.

Are you really serious about spending 4 to 8 hrs on a craps table scheming just to get a free lunch? I heard they are hiring at the buffet. You could make an hourly wage and eat all you want.

You don't need to be sneaky, the casino is absolutely OK with this, you can just play both ways yourself. Some guys do that so that they can focus on the free odds. Those are free to the casino too and meanwhile they have a guaranteed win on the line game plus you have to bet twice as much.

And don't forget your "free odds" bets (the best bet in the casino) probably won't count towards comps. Ask the pit boss how free odds are counted.

Doesn't really make sense to do this but its okay with most casinos. It is in their favor you realize.
Its not particularly sensible to do this but if you find it entertaining then go for it and hope there are no 12s rolled.

You might be better off to simply bet the amount you feel comfortable with and accept the results win or lose. That way you will earn more in comps anyway and you will have some diversion.

Here's an example of an alternative method to what you're trying to accomplish:
Bet (for example) $15 on the don't pass and $5 on the passline. If you get past the comeout roll, then bet $10 odds behind the passline. If you seven out...you push. If your point wins, you will win...something...guaranteed. Not much...but it's a win.

Some call this "the Boozer's Delight"....as it is a way to get your free drinks on the table without risking too much $. Don't know how this would translate to comp accumulation however....

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If you get past the comeout roll, then bet $10 odds behind the passline.

This is significant though.

Quote: SmithTower

Here are a couple of questions on craps. I’m thinking that my wife and I should play craps at the same table with me betting on the pass line and my wife betting on the don’t pass line. As a team will we break even? If I show my players card and we play for eight hours at $100 a hand each will I get comped?

IMO this is a Horrible Idea LOL. You will have no chance at winning a dime. and only a chance of losing, depending on how many 12's are rolled. Why dont you just go in and hand the casino your money then leave LOL

The only thing you could of out of this is comps, I guess if you had a VERY low occurrence of 12's being rolled and you played for 4 hours and you end up getting your room comped, in the end you MIGHT be ahead.

Like I said before There is no way in hell I could ever play a "system" where there is a 0% no mater what happens that I could win.

This system is like going to a roulette table and one of you playing black and one playing red. But that would be even worse then this idea LOL

Yeah, you might as well pay for a lunch. Even if the casino doesn't catch on to your scheme, you won't be comped much more than a small percentage of your theoretical loss. The point of gambling is to have variance and a chance to win. If you just played a slot machine that took $.10 every time you bet a dollar, that would be no fun :(

In my opinion this only works if you really value free drinks AND you think the floorperson has the authority and desire to be generous with discretionary comps. In that world bet $10/hand, $20 max, so your nearly guaranteed loss is low. Maybe bet a bit bigger when your bet is being entered into the computer, tip, be friendly, etc. Have an expected loss of more like $30 and hope to score a pair of buffets and that the waitress cycles around the floor really fast. This will never work for high-dollar comps, but I've seen it work for small scale stuff.

That said, in my example above the stakes are small enough that you could always take your shot with bets that offer some variance without exposing yourself to that much risk from the low swing.

I wouldn't call this stupid at all...if the casino is generous then it's a good way to milk the system..Hell, I do it!
A buddy and I will buy in for $500 each, play $10 flat with max odds (3/4/5) and we'll each have a $60 rate. Usually, Aces will roll about once an hour, so we'll lose $10 an hour ($5 split)
Every 6 hours we play we get $60 in comp, not to mention the mailers (3 free nights per week; $800 a month freeplay, etc)

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I wouldn't call this stupid at all...if the casino is generous then it's a good way to milk the system..Hell, I do it!
A buddy and I will buy in for $500 each, play $10 flat with max odds (3/4/5) and we'll each have a $60 rate. Usually, Aces will roll about once an hour, so we'll lose $10 an hour ($5 split)
Every 6 hours we play we get $60 in comp, not to mention the mailers (3 free nights per week; $800 a month freeplay, etc)

Well if the casino is gonna be generous enough to rate your free odds bets, it could be worth it. But you have to view it as a "job" playing that way because there is no way you can win. You can only hope to limit loses.

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This is significant though.

Absolutely! The theory is: you hope to get enough points made to cover the damages you will experience during the come out roll. That's why you're supposed to be drinking while playing this method!!!

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Well if the casino is gonna be generous enough to rate your free odds bets, it could be worth it. But you have to view it as a "job" playing that way because there is no way you can win. You can only hope to limit loses.

Yup, they rate the odds...