DJTeddyBear
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April 1st, 2011 at 7:20:34 PM permalink
As I understand it, the waitresses that didn't fit the new mold were offered jobs elsewhere in the facility, but they declined.
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rxwine
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April 1st, 2011 at 8:25:28 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Real fat women.



I can't confirm from the Internet whether Marilyn Monroe was as much as a size 16. She was a least a size 10 even when she was in her prime. There's some controversy about "vanity" sizing. "Large" people nowadays may be equivalent with fashion sizes of yesteryear, courtesy of the fashion industry fudging sizing to keep people thinking they are smaller than they are.
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thecesspit
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April 1st, 2011 at 8:27:26 PM permalink
I don't know about American Sizes, but size 12 is a perfectly shapely size for lady without being "fat". Depends on height, build and curves.
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April 1st, 2011 at 11:10:26 PM permalink
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EvenBob
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April 1st, 2011 at 11:20:18 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

I don't know about American Sizes, but size 12 is a perfectly shapely size for lady without being "fat". Depends on height, build and curves.



If she's six feet tall. I'm married to a woman, remember? I know what all her sizes have been thru the years. An average size woman does not wear a 12.
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pacomartin
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April 1st, 2011 at 11:20:23 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

I can't confirm from the Internet whether Marilyn Monroe was as much as a size 16. She was a least a size 10 even when she was in her prime. There's some controversy about "vanity" sizing. "Large" people nowadays may be equivalent with fashion sizes of yesteryear, courtesy of the fashion industry fudging sizing to keep people thinking they are smaller than they are.




Age at death: 36
Dress size: 12
Weight: 118 pounds
Measurements( studio's claim): 37-23-36 (inches)
Measurements (dressmaker's claim): 35-22-35 (inches)
Hair: Natural Brown, dyed Blonde
Eyes: Blue
Height: 5 feet, 5½ inches
Pant Size: 8
Shoe Size: 7AA (US)
Bra Size: 36D
EvenBob
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April 1st, 2011 at 11:24:17 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

I can't confirm from the Internet whether Marilyn Monroe was as much as a size 16.



She was a size 12, but what was a 12 in 1960 is now an 8. They have gradually changed in the last 50 years.
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dudestupid
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April 2nd, 2011 at 7:21:55 AM permalink
I remember when Hooters was sued for not hiring male waiters, the argument was that entertainment is an official part of the job description. I think this gives employers some leeway. Obviously the producer of a movie or play will have appearance requirements for their entertainers (even for race).

I have often wondered if Imperial Palace's "dealertainers" opened the door for the sexy dealers.
AZDuffman
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April 2nd, 2011 at 8:59:22 AM permalink
Quote: dudestupid

I remember when Hooters was sued for not hiring male waiters, the argument was that entertainment is an official part of the job description. I think this gives employers some leeway. Obviously the producer of a movie or play will have appearance requirements for their entertainers (even for race).

I have often wondered if Imperial Palace's "dealertainers" opened the door for the sexy dealers.



"The Bank" Casino solved this problem a few years back by calling the waitresses "models who serve." I'd have no problem with this IRL as long as it was clearly stated. If someone wants to know why appearance is important the simple answer is, "because the person who is paying for it said it was." EOS.
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April 2nd, 2011 at 9:14:59 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

"The Bank" Casino solved this problem a few years back by calling the waitresses "models who serve." I'd have no problem with this IRL as long as it was clearly stated. If someone wants to know why appearance is important the simple answer is, "because the person who is paying for it said it was." EOS.



But in our country, as an example, you can't not hire a black man as a waiter because 'the person who is paying says so'. You can't not hire a Muslim man as a security guard because 'the person who is paying says so'. There are things you can and cannot use to choose whether or not to hire someone. I think the 'models that serve' concept works ok, because that is what they really are.

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