My park just got hit by a massive dust devil
Just as I got inside, the piece of the neighbor's carport crashed on the roof. Then it was over.
Are the neighbors OK?
Hopefully the material damage is fairly minor, and can be repaired without undue inconvenience.
Determining the precise number of dust devil deaths per decade worldwide is difficult due to varying reporting standards and inconsistencies in tracking these events
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However, some relevant data on dust devil related fatalities is available:
US Data (2007-2017): A study found that there were 232 deaths from windblown dust events, which include both dust storms and smaller blowing dust events like dust devils, in the United States from 2007 to 2017. This represents an average of about 21 deaths per year. This number is much higher than reported by official databases alone.
Quote: DieterAre you OK?
Are the neighbors OK?
Hopefully the material damage is fairly minor, and can be repaired without undue inconvenience.
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I'm fine. Neighbors are snowbirds. I did a lap around the park on my bike and the damage is mostly branches and palm leaves. The house behind me seems to have taken the worst hit. The crazy thing is the sky is cloudless and it is a beautiful day. Usually, these things resemble mini-tornados, and you see the swirling dust. This seemed invisible. My insurance has a very high wind damage deductible so I'm hoping my neighbor's insurance will cover the cost of removing the debris. My ladder-climbing days are over.
Quote: billryanQuote: DieterAre you OK?
Are the neighbors OK?
Hopefully the material damage is fairly minor, and can be repaired without undue inconvenience.
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I'm fine. Neighbors are snowbirds. I did a lap around the park on my bike and the damage is mostly branches and palm leaves. The house behind me seems to have taken the worst hit. The crazy thing is the sky is cloudless and it is a beautiful day. Usually, these things resemble mini-tornados, and you see the swirling dust. This seemed invisible. My insurance has a very high wind damage deductible so I'm hoping my neighbor's insurance will cover the cost of removing the debris. My ladder-climbing days are over.
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Ladders everywhere thank you and are breathing a sigh of relief..
(Clarification: by "my body" I mean my person, my corpus, my physical manifestation. I was not carrying any kind of remains.)
That was no fun! I can see how that would damage structures.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyWhat an odd coincidence! Exactly the time when you were posting this, I was deep in the desert near Cal-Nev-Ari with my metal detector, taking advantage of a sub-100 degree day to dig up bullets and bottlecaps, and my body was also hit by a dust devil.
(Clarification: by "my body" I mean my person, my corpus, my physical manifestation. I was not carrying any kind of remains.)
That was no fun! I can see how that would damage structures.
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I have always wanted to get a detector, I may now that this reminds me.
What is it about bullets and bottle caps?
Quote: rainmanQuote: AutomaticMonkeyWhat an odd coincidence! Exactly the time when you were posting this, I was deep in the desert near Cal-Nev-Ari with my metal detector, taking advantage of a sub-100 degree day to dig up bullets and bottlecaps, and my body was also hit by a dust devil.
(Clarification: by "my body" I mean my person, my corpus, my physical manifestation. I was not carrying any kind of remains.)
That was no fun! I can see how that would damage structures.
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I have always wanted to get a detector, I may now that this reminds me.
What is it about bullets and bottle caps?
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It means you will dig up an awful lot of those for every good thing you find. But the good news is the further away from contemporary civilization you get, the less junk you encounter.
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It means you will dig up an awful lot of those for every good thing you find. But the good news is the further away from contemporary civilization you get, the less junk you encounter.
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Can you use one of these to speed things up?
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It means you will dig up an awful lot of those for every good thing you find. But the good news is the further away from contemporary civilization you get, the less junk you encounter.
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Can you use one of these to speed things up?
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I believe detectorists usually dig with paintbrushes, not unlike archaeologists.
You wouldn't want to damage an historical pop-top with a potential value of upwards of 2 cents, after all.
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You wouldn't want to damage an historical pop-top with a potential value of upwards of 2 cents, after all.
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70 holes on a single charge, says the product info.
Plus, who needs another useless intact dinosaur bone.
I'm going to eat the cost of removing the stuff off my roof. I didn't notice it yesterday but I have a big puncture in the middle of my right car port.
Quote: billryanIt turns out the woman behind me is not a snowbird, but was placed in a nursing home. The house is for sale and has no insurance. The daugher called me from California, seemingly in tears. Her house has thousands of dollars in damage and might need a new roof.
I'm going to eat the cost of removing the stuff off my roof. I didn't notice it yesterday but I have a big puncture in the middle of my right car port.
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I would assume your homeowners insurance would cover it if it exceeds your deductible.
Quote: billryanIt turns out the woman behind me is not a snowbird, but was placed in a nursing home. The house is for sale and has no insurance. The daugher called me from California, seemingly in tears. Her house has thousands of dollars in damage and might need a new roof.
I'm going to eat the cost of removing the stuff off my roof. I didn't notice it yesterday but I have a big puncture in the middle of my right car port.
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When I lived in a [raise pinky] manufactured home community [/raise pinky] there were a lot of elders there, and there were also a couple of middle aged guys, generalist handymen, who supported themselves taking care of their property or that of anyone who needed it. Guys like that usually work cheap and they are right there already.
My deductible for wind damage is $2500. For everything else, it is $250.
Quote: billryanMy neighbor's carport was shredded to pieces, with a large chunk ending up on my roof. I was in my carport when it hit. It was a beautiful day, about ten degrees cooler than usual. Suddenly, the wind kicked, and things started flying. I was enjoying it until I heard the sound of metal being ripped off and saw a big piece go floating by.
Just as I got inside, the piece of the neighbor's carport crashed on the roof. Then it was over.
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Whenever you mention your trailer park in Arizona this is what I envision. I bet I'm pretty close.
Quote: DieterWhat are you thinking for the puncture repair? Flashing & Blackjack (or the RV equivalent)?
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I've no idea. It's over a part of the yard I never use, and monsoon season is a month away, so I have time to investigate. I'm thinking of sticking an umbrella through the puncture, opening it, and then hanging a plant on it to weigh it down. I'm open for suggestions, as until today I have given car ports zero attention.
Quote: billryanQuote: DieterWhat are you thinking for the puncture repair? Flashing & Blackjack (or the RV equivalent)?
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I've no idea. It's over a part of the yard I never use, and monsoon season is a month away, so I have time to investigate. I'm thinking of sticking an umbrella through the puncture, opening it, and then hanging a plant on it to weigh it down. I'm open for suggestions, as until today I have given car ports zero attention.
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Ahh, I must have missed that the carport caught a hole. I thought it was the trailer.
If it's the lightweight metal style, there is often a badge with the dealer's contact information. A new panel installed might be surprisingly inexpensive.
I wouldn't trust an umbrella not to catch a breeze and the whole shebang just Mary Poppinsed off into the sunset. ;)
Quote: odiousgambitas a matter of etiquette, a person who lives in one of the units like in the picture just posted lives in a 'mobile home'. Many living in them hate for people to call it a trailer
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While it excuses nothing, I was born in a trailer park, not a manufactured housing community.
Quote: odiousgambitas a matter of etiquette, a person who lives in one of the units like in the picture just posted lives in a 'mobile home'. Many living in them hate for people to call it a trailer
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How "mobile" is it if it doesn't move for 40 years?
Quote: odiousgambitas a matter of etiquette, a person who lives in one of the units like in the picture just posted lives in a 'mobile home'. Many living in them hate for people to call it a trailer
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'The names are interchangeable. Trailer park is the old name
changed into mobile home park so people did not feel like
“low class trailer trash”
It's like how we used to call people who refuse to work and lived on the streets, we called them bums and street people and lots of other unsavory names. Then it became politically correct to call them homeless, just like saying Mobile Home Park it's way better than trailer park. You said potato I say potatoe. I said this before, for three and a half years in Santa Barbara I worked on the end of town where all the bums were, where all the drug addict speople were, and I dealt with them every single day and not once in that three and a half years were they ever referred to as homeless. That was adopted much later. They're not dirty lazy bums, they are homeless. Awwww...
So I hark back to that
Quote: billryanThe proper term is manufactured home. It's luxurious resort living minutes from downtown Tucson.
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'Luxury manufactured home' is what they call an oxymoron.
a figure of speech in which
contradictory terms appear
in conjunction
The word luxury, and the term manufactured home, can never appear in the same sentence together and be understood. Phrases like crash landing and cruel kindness are other examples of oxymorons.
And according to you the homeless are very near to this luxurious place, which kind of takes the luxury out of the word luxurious. Maybe luxurious doesn't mean what you think it means. Jeb Clampett thought having a bathroom inside his house was a luxury. Luxurious kind of means different things depending on where you started from.
Check out Unibuilt. They offer “manufactured homes “ well past 200-300k.
Modular components built in a controlled indoor environment. Considerably higher quality than many stick built homes.
Quote: linksjunkieYou have no clue.
Check out Unibuilt. They offer “manufactured homes “ well past 200-300k.
Modular components built in a controlled indoor environment. Considerably higher quality than many stick built homes.
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He posted pictures of it a couple years ago when he moved into it and if that's luxury I guess I don't know what luxury is. It looked like every one of the manufactured homes I've ever seen. And a whole park full of those, that's supposed to be luxury? I don't think so.
Quote: odiousgambitI sold a product to people living in those places for a while, The worst thing you could do is call it a trailer, these things can be unconsciously noted and held against you
So I hark back to that
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What was the product, meth?
Just kidding! I lived in one too. A very upscale one in Connecticut. Those people didn't really have a problem with them being called trailers, but we normally just said houses.
There is a difference. In the picture posted here a couple of them would be called trailers, but they now would usually be called RVs. A "mobile manufactured home" is just a prefab that is designed to have wheels and axles temporarily attached and hauled over the road with a regular heavy truck. None of them leave the wheels attached anymore. If it's called a "modular" or "prefab" it is meant to be delivered on a flatbed.
There are a lot of business advantages to building them that way rather than on-site and the biggest one might be time because you can have three shifts pumping them out and you don't have to worry about weather delays because you're building them in an aircraft hangar. The tradeoff is delivery costs.
When you buy a site-built home, it is built by mostly unskilled laborers, working in less-than-ideal conditions. Manufactured homes are built indoors and subject to much more inspection than site-built homes.
There are some triple-wide models that go for over 200K in the park, but they look ridiculously out of place.
A new model similar to mine would cost about 110K and 15K to set up and level. Silver KIng set up five $200,000 homes in the park to sell, but no bites on them yet.
Quote: DieterWhat are you thinking for the puncture repair? Flashing & Blackjack (or the RV equivalent)?
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“Flashing & Blackjack” carries a much different meaning for me… Can you say, “Party Pit”?!?
Quote: EvenBobQuote: billryanThe proper term is manufactured home. It's luxurious resort living minutes from downtown Tucson.
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'Luxury manufactured home' is what they call an oxymoron.
a figure of speech in which
contradictory terms appear
in conjunction
The word luxury, and the term manufactured home, can never appear in the same sentence together and be understood. Phrases like crash landing and cruel kindness are other examples of oxymorons.
And according to you the homeless are very near to this luxurious place, which kind of takes the luxury out of the word luxurious. Maybe luxurious doesn't mean what you think it means. Jeb Clampett thought having a bathroom inside his house was a luxury. Luxurious kind of means different things depending on where you started from.
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Ooh, I like oxymorons such as “military intelligence” or “President Reagan” (I think that’s allowed, since he’s no longer part of the simulation.) My new favorite, however, is Roulette AP…
Quote: camaplQuote: DieterWhat are you thinking for the puncture repair? Flashing & Blackjack (or the RV equivalent)?
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“Flashing & Blackjack” carries a much different meaning for me… Can you say, “Party Pit”?!?
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"Party Pit" just sounds like avocadoes cutting loose. ;)
Quote: billryanQuote: DieterWhat are you thinking for the puncture repair? Flashing & Blackjack (or the RV equivalent)?
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I've no idea. It's over a part of the yard I never use, and monsoon season is a month away, so I have time to investigate. I'm thinking of sticking an umbrella through the puncture, opening it, and then hanging a plant on it to weigh it down. I'm open for suggestions, as until today I have given car ports zero attention.
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What's the material? And can you post a picture of the damage?
Quote: billryanLater today I'll take some photos. The carport is thin metal. I don't think it is aluminum but I'm not sure.
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A magnet will tell you whether it’s steel or not…
Quote: EvenBobQuote: linksjunkieYou have no clue.
Check out Unibuilt. They offer “manufactured homes “ well past 200-300k.
Modular components built in a controlled indoor environment. Considerably higher quality than many stick built homes.
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He posted pictures of it a couple years ago when he moved into it and if that's luxury I guess I don't know what luxury is. It looked like every one of the manufactured homes I've ever seen. And a whole park full of those, that's supposed to be luxury? I don't think so.
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There was a mobile home park in Florida where the lots were selling for a million dollars without the housing structure.
Quote: DieterQuote: odiousgambitas a matter of etiquette, a person who lives in one of the units like in the picture just posted lives in a 'mobile home'. Many living in them hate for people to call it a trailer
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While it excuses nothing, I was born in a trailer park, not a manufactured housing community.
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In Arizona, it seems like "trailer park" residents rent their trailers, mostly on short-term leases and have limited facilities, while manufactured home parks are mostly owner-occupied, and tend to have things like clubhouses, health clubs, tennis and pickle courts, and the like. I like having a gated, manned entrance-it's the main reason we live in a crime-free oasis
Quote: linksjunkieYou have no clue.
Check out Unibuilt. They offer “manufactured homes “ well past 200-300k.
Modular components built in a controlled indoor environment. Considerably higher quality than many stick built homes.
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Did you seriously suggest EB has no clue? What gave you the first hint? I've had him on ignore for months but He responds to almost every one of my posts.
This is the puncture.
I called an awning guy who said it was $150 just to show up and would be a simple repair.
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This is the puncture.
I called an awning guy who said it was $150 just to show up and would be a simple repair.
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I see. That's corrugated steel. There's no way to make the repair look nice except to replace the panel. Having it repaired professionally for under $200 is probably worth it.
It makes a difference what side that hole is on. Looks like that is on the house side of the carport so someone will have to go on the roof to access it from the top. Really nobody over 200 pounds has any business going on the roof of a mobile. You won't fall through, but you would flex things such that the roof could begin to leak.
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This is an example of what what's in your so-called luxury park in Arizona? Is this a joke? This is exactly like every cheap crappy modular home I've ever seen. Where's the luxury? I've seen mobile home parks that have far better examples of housing than this. I can only even imagine the people who live in these things. Your example is closer to the picture I posted yesterday, you've just proven my point.
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This is the puncture.
I called an awning guy who said it was $150 just to show up and would be a simple repair.
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I see. That's corrugated steel. There's no way to make the repair look nice except to replace the panel. Having it repaired professionally for under $200 is probably worth it.
It makes a difference what side that hole is on. Looks like that is on the house side of the carport so someone will have to go on the roof to access it from the top. Really nobody over 200 pounds has any business going on the roof of a mobile. You won't fall through, but you would flex things such that the roof could begin to leak.
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I have carports that run on both sides of the house. On the driveway, I have my patio set and a screened-in porch. This is what I consider my backyard, which I rarely use. I wouldn't bother fixing it, but I'm worried the wind might get under it and rip it more. I sent pictures to the two handymen I've used and asked for suggestions.
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This is the puncture.
I called an awning guy who said it was $150 just to show up and would be a simple repair.
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I see. That's corrugated steel. There's no way to make the repair look nice except to replace the panel. Having it repaired professionally for under $200 is probably worth it.
It makes a difference what side that hole is on. Looks like that is on the house side of the carport so someone will have to go on the roof to access it from the top. Really nobody over 200 pounds has any business going on the roof of a mobile. You won't fall through, but you would flex things such that the roof could begin to leak.
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I have carports that run on both sides of the house. On the driveway, I have my patio set and a screened-in porch. This is what I consider my backyard, which I rarely use. I wouldn't bother fixing it, but I'm worried the wind might get under it and rip it more. I sent pictures to the two handymen I've used and asked for suggestions.
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Very typical for cheaply built housing. A little wind comes along and part of it blows away. My house was built in 1850 and every bit of it that was here in 1850 is still here. And we've had hurricane gusts of wind here hundreds of times. You get what you pay for. But at least it's 'luxury', which apparently in Arizona has a different meaning.
Maybe I'll attempt a drone drop.
The pool I usually do my morning swim was closed for unexpected repairs today, forcing me to choose between our happy hour pool or the smoking area pool. And people say resort living is easy.
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This is the puncture.
I called an awning guy who said it was $150 just to show up and would be a simple repair.
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Yeah, easy temporary fix. I'd also ask if the repair they are offering to do will look like a patch is there or not? Don't pay more if you only get patch work.
Quote: billryanI put up a temporary patch myself. I duct-taped the area around the hole, overlapping pieces until they met in the middle. Then, I took a strip of extra horizontal blind that came with the house, cut it to size, and looped duct tape to make it double-sided. It blends in well and is pretty secure, but I'm not sure how it will hold up in a monsoon. I'd like to get at it from above, but it's in a precarious place.
Maybe I'll attempt a drone drop.
The pool I usually do my morning swim was closed for unexpected repairs today, forcing me to choose between our happy hour pool or the smoking area pool. And people say resort living is easy.
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I bet you buy duct tape by the case living in one of those Arizona tin cans. But it is a 'luxury' tin can so maybe it came with a repair kit full of nothing but duct tape.
