PM Question for Administrators
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Remember that this forum, unlike other forums, was built from scratch. Therefore, JB has to discover bugs and logic errors that other forums have already figured out.
That said, there are two possibilities:
1 - It was a logic error that JB overlooked.
2 - The person sends a PM and THEN changes there option.
Note to JB -
Obviously, if it's the first scenario, it needs to be fixed. But the second scenario needs to be addressed as well.
Perhaps the fix for both of these scenarios is that if a person sends a PM, then, regardless of the option, the recipient must be allowed to send a response.
Quote: DJTeddyBearThat said, there are two possibilities:
1 - It was a logic error that JB overlooked.
2 - The person sends a PM and THEN changes there option.
3.- Perhaps if user A has blocked user B, he can send PMs to user B but won't receive PMs from him. I ran across a bug like that in commercial forum software. The Admins "solved" it by disabling the blocking option. Your solution is a lot better.
Quote: DJTeddyBear
That said, there are two possibilities:
1 - It was a logic error that JB overlooked.
2 - The person sends a PM and THEN changes there option.
Either way its very annoying. I received a snotty PM from someone this evening and when I went to reply, I couldn't. Not cool.
Quote: Wizardsuggestion noted. I think if you block pms then you should not be able to send them.
Well, it just happened again yesterday. Another forum member unloaded on me, threatened me, and when I went to respond, they have blocked PM's. This gives them the ability to harass with impunity because we can't reveal a PM's contents to the forum with getting banned. Nice....
Quote: thecesspitSurely you can reveal it directly to the Wizard.... or at least mention to the moderators (via PM) whose been hassling you. No need to air the linen in public.
You can't air it in public, you can't reveal the contents of a PM without getting banned.
Quote: thecesspitSurely you can reveal it directly to the Wizard.... or at least mention to the moderators (via PM) whose been hassling you. No need to air the linen in public.
Copy the PM from the offending member to the mods and/or Wizard. In spite of what goes on here, no one should be threatened or harassed.
If there is no way to fix this, I believe the rule about revealing information in PMs from members should be amended to allow posting openly threats and harassment. I'd view it kind of like the football challenge flag. You challenge the PM. The Wizard/mods determine if it is outside the lines. If it is, the sender is banished for a period of time. If it turns out to be something that is not out of bounds, you are banished. The goal would be only to reveal PMs that go beyond the standards the Wizard wants to keep.
The first option is better, of course. The person who sends offensive PMs won't like either option.
I'll come up with a solution. I'll start a poll with a few different choices so that everyone can vote on the option they like best.
Quote: JBThis was an oversight, which I just fixed. However, it probably won't be a terribly effective fix since, as previously mentioned, someone could enable PMs to send a harassing message and then disable them again.
I'll come up with a solution. I'll start a poll with a few different choices so that everyone can vote on the option they like best.
Thank You! It really is frustrating that anybody can say whatever they want to you and you have absolutely no method of reply.
Quote: JB
I'll come up with a solution. I'll start a poll with a few different choices so that everyone can vote on the option they like best.
If private pm and post blocking could be chosen independently for any poster, that should do it.
-block only posts
-block only pms
-block pms and posts
I already stated a solution, in the second post on the first page:Quote: JBI'll come up with a solution. I'll start a poll with a few different choices so that everyone can vote on the option they like best.
Perhaps the fix for both of these scenarios is that if a person sends a PM, then, regardless of the option, the recipient must be allowed to send a response.
I admit I know nothing about coding this solution, but logistically, that's the answer.
Quote: rxwineIf private pm and post blocking could be chosen independently for any poster, that should do it.
-block only posts
-block only pms
-block pms and posts
That's not a bad idea, but it wouldn't solve the underlying problem.
Suppose Alice and Bob have no previous problem with each other (and therefore neither has blocked the other). Then Alice reads something that Bob wrote which infuriates her. She sends Bob a harassing PM, and immediately after doing so, she blocks PMs coming from him. Bob is now powerless to respond to her harassing PM. That is the underlying problem.
Quote: DJTeddyBearI already stated a solution, in the second post on the first page:
Perhaps the fix for both of these scenarios is that if a person sends a PM, then, regardless of the option, the recipient must be allowed to send a response.
I admit I know nothing about coding this solution, but logistically, that's the answer.
There are other possible solutions too. I'll create the poll shortly.
Quote: JBThat's not a bad idea, but it wouldn't solve the underlying problem.
Suppose Alice and Bob have no previous problem with each other (and therefore neither has blocked the other). Then Alice reads something that Bob wrote which infuriates her. She sends Bob a harassing PM, and immediately after doing so, she blocks PMs coming from him. Bob is now powerless to respond to her harassing PM. That is the underlying problem.
But after you block someone's pms, they have no choice but to continue contact in the open if they want to be hostile. Yeah, you have to take one shot off the bow though.
Quote: JB
Suppose Alice and Bob have no previous problem with each other
Not Alice again, is she here too? I already explained that to my wife years ago...
So, this will take me a little while to implement but it is of course doable. I'll either reply to this thread or start a new one in the Announcements section once the change has been made.
Quote: JB
So, this will take me a little while to implement but it is of course doable.
Thanks for your attention to this. When someone sends such a PM that you can't respond to, what they really want is for you to blab the details of it on the forum so you then get banned. Nice try, no soup for you!
