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May 13th, 2025 at 10:06:25 AM permalink
I started exercising seriously in December. After about a month, I was using an exercise bar that can have 90, 110, or 145 pounds of pressure. When I started, I was having trouble doing seven repetitions at 90 pounds, but a week or so of use and I was able to do sets.
I changed the grip and adjusted the 110 setting. To my surprise, it was fairly easy.
I then made the extremely foolish decision to attempt the 145 pound setting.
After moments of psyching myself up, I pressed on the bar and was amazed that I was doing it. Suddenly a pain shot from my wrist up to my bicep and left my arm limp. I think I actually heard something pop.
A few days passed without improvement, so I went to my doctor. He didn't find anything wrong and suggested rest.
Days would pass with it feeling okay, and then a sudden movement would take me back to step one.
I remembered someone had given me a sample of CBD oil, so I rubbed it over my arm and felt instantaneous relief.
The product is called DermaFreeze, and it works miracles.
A dab every morning and I'm back to working out. I twisted my ankle yesterday and woke up with a slight strain. A small dab and it is business as usual.
As I understand it, no one understands exactly how CBD lotion relieves pain, and it seems to work differently on different people, but if you have a nagging pain, You might want to try it.
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May 13th, 2025 at 10:29:09 AM permalink
You injured your bicep?

But what exact exercise were you doing.

I've used CBD based lotions too, and Arnica, to relieve weight lifting pain, but these just relieve minor pain they don't repair anything obviously.

Sounds like maybe you just had a strain, not a tear.
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May 13th, 2025 at 10:38:26 AM permalink
Sometimes you pull the bar down into a horseshoe
Other exercises you push the bar up into a horseshoe.
The widest grip requires 95 pounds of force to bend, the narrowest requires 145.
It relieved the pain, it didn't heal anything.
From the pain and lack of progress healing, I thought it was something more than a pull, but my Doctor disagreed.

It wasn't my bicep, I think it is the tendons connecting the tricep and bicep.
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May 13th, 2025 at 10:48:31 AM permalink
I've had a few sports related injuries over the years, mostly from heavy weight lifting. What I know is that when I was 20 years old I could overwork a muscle at the gym to where I was cringing in pain and barely able to lift my arm for hours, and then the next day - nothing, while now if I get injured it might takes weeks to get back to normal. Of course it doesn't help that I in general won't stop exercising (might take a few days off), but still, working through an injury takes a lot longer as we get older.

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.It wasn't my bicep, I think it is the tendons connecting the tricep and bicep.


Be careful with that, even a partial bicep tendon tear may not be able to repair itself. But sounds like you did not tear anything.

Years ago I injured myself lifting heavy weights and was sure it was a tear, but after seeing an orthopedic surgeon and going all the way to get ultrasounds and MRIs it turned out it was nothing he could repair, as in it was some kind of strain that eventually righted itself.

As far as that popping sound you heard - sometimes that may be an indication of a partial interstitial tear that just happened, but in your case sounds like not.

Something many get if they live long enough, and weight lifters sometimes get it sooner, is Osteoarthritis - that is something that really there is nothing that may be done about it, and is sometimes mistaken for something wrong in the way of a tear in there when it fact there is no tear, just some pain the day after exercise.
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May 13th, 2025 at 11:23:31 AM permalink
My doctor told me there was no point in an MRI as the only solution was time.
I'm currently using a smaller bar that tops out at 75 pounds and doing low-impact balancing exercises. With the last snowbirds finally gone, the pools are much less crowded.
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May 13th, 2025 at 11:58:40 AM permalink
I have a good doctor who runs all the tests I ask for, about a dozen tubes of blood annually for all kinds of tests including levels of vitamins and minerals in my blood, and refers me to a specialist whenever I ask. The specialist, in this case for the injury you describe an orthopedic surgeon, is the one who is going to know if you need further treatment.

It helps that in my case my insurance pays for everything so I am not shy about pushing for whatever.

However, when it comes to these kinds of things there is nothing really that may be done other than surgery IF there is a need, and statistically speaking a lot of the surgery done for tendons and rotator cuffs causes as much problems as it solves. So, strengthening the muscles around those tendons and joints is often the best way to go, even if there is a partial interstitial tear.
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May 13th, 2025 at 6:50:53 PM permalink
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I started exercising seriously in December. After about a month, I was using an exercise bar that can have 90, 110, or 145 pounds of pressure. When I started, I was having trouble doing seven repetitions at 90 pounds, but a week or so of use and I was able to do sets.
I changed the grip and adjusted the 110 setting. To my surprise, it was fairly easy.
I then made the extremely foolish decision to attempt the 145 pound setting.
After moments of psyching myself up, I pressed on the bar and was amazed that I was doing it. Suddenly a pain shot from my wrist up to my bicep and left my arm limp. I think I actually heard something pop.
A few days passed without improvement, so I went to my doctor. He didn't find anything wrong and suggested rest.
Days would pass with it feeling okay, and then a sudden movement would take me back to step one.
I remembered someone had given me a sample of CBD oil, so I rubbed it over my arm and felt instantaneous relief.
The product is called DermaFreeze, and it works miracles.
A dab every morning and I'm back to working out. I twisted my ankle yesterday and woke up with a slight strain. A small dab and it is business as usual.
As I understand it, no one understands exactly how CBD lotion relieves pain, and it seems to work differently on different people, but if you have a nagging pain, You might want to try it.
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On the contrary they know exactly how it works. It tricks the brain. Just like Icy Hot it's a counterirritant that creates a minor inflammation on the skin that blocks pain signals coming from another area. Works for a while but it does absolutely nothing to heal what's wrong with you. My doctor hates it because it fools people into thinking they're doing something productive. I use it all the time because it works. Screw my doctor.
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May 23rd, 2025 at 7:48:27 AM permalink
Ten days into my applying a few dabs twice a day, and things are great. I've full use of my arm, although I'm occasionally reminded it's not fully healed. I've used about an eighth of a $25 bottle and noticed that rubbing in a few drops works as well as rubbing in generous amounts.
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May 23rd, 2025 at 10:11:24 AM permalink
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Ten days into my applying a few dabs twice a day, and things are great. I've full use of my arm, although I'm occasionally reminded it's not fully healed. I've used about an eighth of a $25 bottle and noticed that rubbing in a few drops works as well as rubbing in generous amounts.
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It's healing because you're not using it. It has nothing to do with the gunk you're putting on it. Google is your friend, look it up.
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July 24th, 2025 at 8:38:43 AM permalink
My arm still isn't healing right, and my doctor sent me to an Orthopedic. Specialist. Testing reveals scar tissue that he recommends be cleaned out. It's a minor procedure, and without it, I'll never be able to pitch again; however, it involves wearing a sling for 6-8 weeks and a dozen or so rehabilitation sessions.
At the moment, I have about 90% movement pain free, about 8% of the time, it hurts but is bearable, but every so often I do something and get an almost electric jolt just below the elbow. I've had two closed fractures of my right elbow, and I've had it hyper-extended a couple of dozen times.
I'm still amazed how a little bit of CBD lotion can numb the pain so effectively.
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July 24th, 2025 at 9:02:26 AM permalink
Sounds like you have some labral tears.

Labral debridement, also known as a "cleanup" of a labral tear, is a surgical procedure to address damage to the labrum, the ring of cartilage surrounding the shoulder's socket.
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July 24th, 2025 at 9:20:16 AM permalink
It's an elbow debridement, but I'm not sure it is worth it. I can go days with no pain, but then I turn a doorknob and I get jolted.
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July 24th, 2025 at 3:48:46 PM permalink
Most people who are athletic wait until they have an actual tear or at least partial tear somewhere then get the cleanup alongside the tear suturing. Ideally you don't want a tear at all, but the recovery process from the arthroscopic surgery you mention just for the cleanup might outweigh the benefits.

Also depends on your age. The younger and more active you are the faster the recovery process, and the greater the chance for full recovery.
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July 24th, 2025 at 4:46:52 PM permalink
I'm 67 and no longer as active as I once was. I have a different medical issue that I'm sure will require another procedure. I had it done a dozen years ago, and while the procedure was simple, the recovery sucked. The Doctor told me it would last ten years and it held for twelve so I shouldn't complain.
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