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December 20th, 2024 at 6:36:12 PM permalink
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A few years after I built my little waterfall, turtle, and fish pond/garden they demanded I take it out. I had to fight pretty hard to win that battle. It was crazy the length I went to keep them from making me take it out.
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I don't know how people live like that. I can take a couple of my guns tomorrow and go down by the barn and target practice for an hour and my neighbors will say nothing because they can't say anything. Where I live target practice on your own property is totally legal. Let alone building a waterfall or pond or anything else I wanted.
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December 20th, 2024 at 7:31:36 PM permalink
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December 20th, 2024 at 9:15:59 PM permalink
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I don't know how people live like that. I can take a couple of my guns tomorrow and go down by the barn and target practice for an hour and my neighbors will say nothing because they can't say anything. Where I live target practice on your own property is totally legal. Let alone building a waterfall or pond or anything else I wanted.
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Your neighbors probably don't mind, and likely some of them do the same thing. When you live among people with shared cultural values you tend to like and dislike the same things and you can communicate with one another well enough to stay out of each other's way. So you already know when, where, and how to shoot your guns, or build things, in a way that is not going to upset anyone.

When you get into places that are more "multicultural" that common understanding is not present and they rely on myriad rules and strict enforcement to prevent anyone from offending anyone else's sensibilities, or at least the sensibilities of the current "squeaky wheels." It results in a bland, unsatisfying environment where people live like potted plants, and it also attracts people who want to be the enforcers and everything that comes with that. And people still manage to make life unbearable for one another. Rudyard Kipling wrote a poem called "The Stranger" that describes this in stark terms.
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December 20th, 2024 at 9:35:24 PM permalink
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A few years after I built my little waterfall, turtle, and fish pond/garden they demanded I take it out. I had to fight pretty hard to win that battle. It was crazy the length I went to keep them from making me take it out.
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I don't know how people live like that. I can take a couple of my guns tomorrow and go down by the barn and target practice for an hour and my neighbors will say nothing because they can't say anything. Where I live target practice on your own property is totally legal. Let alone building a waterfall or pond or anything else I wanted.
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Here's the thing, when you live in Las Vegas it's kinda par for the course to have an HOA unless you want to live in BFE or crappy areas. HOAs are not all bad, it keeps idiots from doing idiotic things and driving the value of your home down considerably.

When I was fully invested in Advantage Play none of that stuff really mattered to me as I was spending most of my time away from home. It's not like we have kids and a bunch of family here in Las Vegas.

As far as being free to do what you want, I get you, trust me, that's why I recently bought over 25 acres of land with a river/ stream running through it and much more. I plan on buying more land in a different state as well. If things go well and I get the current place I'm looking I'll have over 80 acres with Riverfront including some Islands. One of my filters when looking is... NO HOA.



When I was looking for a place there in LV the number one goal in mind was location location location. I didn't want to be so far out it would be a nightmare driving from casino to casino and back home.

I wanted at least two bedrooms and one bathroom with an attached garage. This place had two bathrooms a two-car attached, and separate outdoor storage) and two stories with something that was centrally located. This humble place hit all the notes and more since it included my own private gated Courtyard.

Of course, I wanted a good price as well. I got more than I bargained for at a better price than I was anticipating. I looked at a bunch of places prior to finding the one I'm currently at and they didn't even compare, so as soon as I saw this place I had to have it. We absolutely love our place, I just really dislike the desert.
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December 21st, 2024 at 2:40:10 AM permalink
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When you get into places that are more "multicultural" that common understanding is not present and they rely on myriad rules and strict enforcement to prevent anyone from offending anyone else's sensibilities, or at least the sensibilities of the current "squeaky wheels." It results in a bland, unsatisfying environment where people live like potted plants, and it also attracts people who want to be the enforcers and everything that comes with that. And people still manage to make life unbearable for one another. Rudyard Kipling wrote a poem called "The Stranger" that describes this in stark terms.
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Well put! Exactly why I never want to live in an HOA neighborhood. If I downsize to a condo or townhouse I will have no choice, but that would be it. I don't buy the whole "it protects the property value" thing, either. We have zoning and code laws. Paying someone so they can tell you what color you are allowed to paint your house or how you can landscape? Why?
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December 21st, 2024 at 6:27:33 AM permalink
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When you get into places that are more "multicultural" that common understanding is not present and they rely on myriad rules and strict enforcement to prevent anyone from offending anyone else's sensibilities, or at least the sensibilities of the current "squeaky wheels." It results in a bland, unsatisfying environment where people live like potted plants, and it also attracts people who want to be the enforcers and everything that comes with that. And people still manage to make life unbearable for one another. Rudyard Kipling wrote a poem called "The Stranger" that describes this in stark terms.
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Well put! Exactly why I never want to live in an HOA neighborhood. If I downsize to a condo or townhouse I will have no choice, but that would be it. I don't buy the whole "it protects the property value" thing, either. We have zoning and code laws. Paying someone so they can tell you what color you are allowed to paint your house or how you can landscape? Why?
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It's rudimentary communism. A deciding body dictating how everybody else will live. It's what humans naturally gravitate towards because people are generally followers and not leaders so they get taken advantage of by the people who are leaders. It has to constantly be fought against because the followers are lemmings and they basically really like being told what to do and it ruins it for everybody else.
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December 21st, 2024 at 6:41:28 AM permalink
It is horrible to live in an HOA, knowing I can't paint my house Purple, although Pink is allowed, and the fact that I can't park my old, non-running rustbucket in my driveway while waiting for my newborn son to age enough for a father and son project reeks of Stalin.
Would you believe someone objected to my collection of busted washer machines? They don't recognize yard art. Some people have no respect for my rights to annoy my neighbors. If I want to hire a friend to rewire my house, who's business is it if he is licensed or insured? It's my writes, and who are you to tell me otherwise.
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December 21st, 2024 at 6:42:00 AM permalink
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We absolutely love our place, I just really dislike the desert.



Until I moved to Florida after having spent 30 years in Vegas, I didn't realize how much I missed the greenery. Grass everywhere, trees, bushes, etc. Having lived there so long the ugly brown of the desert became normal but just not appealing.
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December 21st, 2024 at 6:51:11 AM permalink
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It is horrible to live in an HOA, knowing I can't paint my house Purple, although Pink is allowed, and the fact that I can't park my old, non-running rustbucket in my driveway while waiting for my newborn son to age enough for a father and son project reeks of Stalin.
Would you believe someone objected to my collection of busted washer machines? They don't recognize yard art. Some people have no respect for my rights to annoy my neighbors. If I want to hire a friend to rewire my house, who's business is it if he is licensed or insured? It's my writes, and who are you to tell me otherwise.
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Besides your neighbors, most people don't live like that so it's not a problem. Usually townships have rules regarding non-running cars and broken wash machines in your yard and a separate body like an HOA it's not required yet it's there anyway because the township doesn't go far enough. It lets you put up a cute mailbox or even God forbid hang a Christmas wreath on your door. An HOA will make sure that abominable behavior like this is kept under control. Like one night you might choose to, oh my God, park your car in the driveway and not in the garage. Rightfully so the HOA will hang you by your cojones until dead.
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December 21st, 2024 at 6:53:39 AM permalink
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We absolutely love our place, I just really dislike the desert.



Until I moved to Florida after having spent 30 years in Vegas, I didn't realize how much I missed the greenery. Grass everywhere, trees, bushes, etc. Having lived there so long the ugly brown of the desert became normal but just not appealing.
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I can't even stand visiting Las Vegas let alone the thought of living there. How you did it for 30 years is beyond me. The desert, any desert, is ugly. And depressing and boring.
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December 21st, 2024 at 7:07:20 AM permalink
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The desert, any desert, is ugly. And depressing and boring.



One of the few things that we can agree on.
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December 21st, 2024 at 7:42:43 AM permalink
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The desert, any desert, is ugly. And depressing and boring.



One of the few things that we can agree on.
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Arizona is one of the most beautiful states I've been to . From the Sky Islands of the Sonoran Desert to the majestic Pine Forest of the Alpine, and the Painted Desert/Petrified Forest.
The desert may appear empty at first glance but sit still for a few minutes, and you'll observe an incredible variety of animals, reptiles, and insects. You aren't going to see a mountain lion, bear or a family of javelinas living in an urban environment, nor will coyotes serenade you.
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December 21st, 2024 at 8:41:37 AM permalink
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You aren't going to see a mountain lion, bear or a family of javelinas living in an urban environment, nor will coyotes serenade you.



Having been to some of the best zoos in the world (San Diego, Saint Louis, Miami, Sydney), I would disagree with you.
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December 21st, 2024 at 9:10:33 AM permalink
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The desert, any desert, is ugly. And depressing and boring.



One of the few things that we can agree on.
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Arizona is one of the most beautiful states I've been to . From the Sky Islands of the Sonoran Desert to the majestic Pine Forest of the Alpine, and the Painted Desert/Petrified Forest.
The desert may appear empty at first glance but sit still for a few minutes, and you'll observe an incredible variety of animals, reptiles, and insects. You aren't going to see a mountain lion, bear or a family of javelinas living in an urban environment, nor will coyotes serenade you.
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I lived in the desert three years. The brown did not bother me except when you go back East the green almost gives you a headache. The coyotes though drive me nuts. Racing all over the road. Building weird things that never worked. Dropping anvils all over the place. I almost lost my car because one spilled instant hole all over my road.
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December 21st, 2024 at 10:34:40 AM permalink
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The desert, any desert, is ugly. And depressing and boring.



One of the few things that we can agree on.
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Arizona is one of the most beautiful states I've been to . From the Sky Islands of the Sonoran Desert to the majestic Pine Forest of the Alpine, and the Painted Desert/Petrified Forest.
The desert may appear empty at first glance but sit still for a few minutes, and you'll observe an incredible variety of animals, reptiles, and insects. You aren't going to see a mountain lion, bear or a family of javelinas living in an urban environment, nor will coyotes serenade you.
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The desert is a swell place if you love the color brown, and different shades of brown. I personally have a fondness for green. People who live in the desert are always making up excuses for living there because they really hate it too they just never admit it.
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December 21st, 2024 at 10:57:16 AM permalink
I have a hole in my pocket just for situations like that.
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December 21st, 2024 at 11:35:59 AM permalink
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. The coyotes though drive me nuts. Racing all over the road. Building weird things that never worked. Stopping anvils all over the place. I almost lost my car because one spilled instant hole all over my road.



There was a live action movie made called Coyote vs Acme. Probably not something that would interest me, but I do like the premise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_vs._Acme
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December 21st, 2024 at 11:37:56 AM permalink
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The desert, any desert, is ugly. And depressing and boring.



One of the few things that we can agree on.
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Arizona is one of the most beautiful states I've been to . From the Sky Islands of the Sonoran Desert to the majestic Pine Forest of the Alpine, and the Painted Desert/Petrified Forest.
The desert may appear empty at first glance but sit still for a few minutes, and you'll observe an incredible variety of animals, reptiles, and insects. You aren't going to see a mountain lion, bear or a family of javelinas living in an urban environment, nor will coyotes serenade you.
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I lived in the desert three years. The brown did not bother me except when you go back East the green almost gives you a headache. The coyotes though drive me nuts. Racing all over the road. Building weird things that never worked. Stopping anvils all over the place. I almost lost my car because one spilled instant hole all over my road.
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Now the only coyotes you see in Arizona are the ones bringing the illegals across the border. Yet another reason not to live in Arizona
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December 21st, 2024 at 11:40:55 AM permalink
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Now the only coyotes you see in Arizona are the ones bringing the illegals across the border. Yet another reason not to live in Arizona



Sadly, the Arizona Coyotes migrated north to Utah.
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December 21st, 2024 at 12:11:54 PM permalink
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It is horrible to live in an HOA, knowing I can't paint my house Purple, although Pink is allowed, and the fact that I can't park my old, non-running rustbucket in my driveway while waiting for my newborn son to age enough for a father and son project reeks of Stalin.
Would you believe someone objected to my collection of busted washer machines? They don't recognize yard art. Some people have no respect for my rights to annoy my neighbors. If I want to hire a friend to rewire my house, who's business is it if he is licensed or insured? It's my writes, and who are you to tell me otherwise.
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The point is: I paid for it. The guy complaining about me paid for his. So I don't gripe about his nautical decor everywhere, his tea garden, or his useless kid in drug rehab, and I don't want to hear it from him about the things I like. That's the whole point of "private property." You get to be the king, up to where the property line ends.

Now some guy with his signet ring and simpering Stepford wife comes knocking on my door, telling me I have to make everything look like it used to in his ancestral estate in Oldmoneyshire, I call that him wanting to be my suzerain, and that's not what I signed up for. It's an attempt to broadly enforce cultural standards, which is as understandable as it is recognizable. But I would rather live in a place where people have the same cultural standards as me to begin with. Then nobody has to say a word.
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December 21st, 2024 at 12:19:04 PM permalink
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It is horrible to live in an HOA, knowing I can't paint my house Purple, although Pink is allowed, and the fact that I can't park my old, non-running rustbucket in my driveway while waiting for my newborn son to age enough for a father and son project reeks of Stalin.
Would you believe someone objected to my collection of busted washer machines? They don't recognize yard art. Some people have no respect for my rights to annoy my neighbors. If I want to hire a friend to rewire my house, who's business is it if he is licensed or insured? It's my writes, and who are you to tell me otherwise.
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The point is: I paid for it. The guy complaining about me paid for his. So I don't gripe about his nautical decor everywhere, his tea garden, or his useless kid in drug rehab, and I don't want to hear it from him about the things I like. That's the whole point of "private property." You get to be the king, up to where the property line ends.

Now some guy with his signet ring and simpering Stepford wife comes knocking on my door, telling me I have to make everything look like it used to in his ancestral estate in Oldmoneyshire, I call that him wanting to be my suzerain, and that's not what I signed up for. It's an attempt to broadly enforce cultural standards, which is as understandable as it is recognizable. But I would rather live in a place where people have the same cultural standards as me to begin with. Then nobody has to say a word.
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What is really horrible is people joining an HOA without reading the rules that they are expected to abide by. If you sign the contract follow the rules until you convince the board to change them.
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December 21st, 2024 at 12:23:20 PM permalink
We get coyotes in my park regularly. They don't howl as much as the ones in Cochise, supposedly because Tucson has more light pollution. I almost always see young coyotes. They have too many enemies in Tucson to reach maturity, while they are high on Cochise's food chain.
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It is horrible to live in an HOA, knowing I can't paint my house Purple, although Pink is allowed, and the fact that I can't park my old, non-running rustbucket in my driveway while waiting for my newborn son to age enough for a father and son project reeks of Stalin.
Would you believe someone objected to my collection of busted washer machines? They don't recognize yard art. Some people have no respect for my rights to annoy my neighbors. If I want to hire a friend to rewire my house, who's business is it if he is licensed or insured? It's my writes, and who are you to tell me otherwise.
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The point is: I paid for it. The guy complaining about me paid for his. So I don't gripe about his nautical decor everywhere, his tea garden, or his useless kid in drug rehab, and I don't want to hear it from him about the things I like. That's the whole point of "private property." You get to be the king, up to where the property line ends.

Now some guy with his signet ring and simpering Stepford wife comes knocking on my door, telling me I have to make everything look like it used to in his ancestral estate in Oldmoneyshire, I call that him wanting to be my suzerain, and that's not what I signed up for. It's an attempt to broadly enforce cultural standards, which is as understandable as it is recognizable. But I would rather live in a place where people have the same cultural standards as me to begin with. Then nobody has to say a word.
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What is really horrible is people joining an HOA without reading the rules that they are expected to abide by. If you sign the contract follow the rules until you convince the board to change them.
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THIS🎯

This is a pretty stupid conversation. If you don’t want to follow the rules of an HOA, don’t buy a house that is subject to an HOA! I’m a GENIUS!

I just checked my HOA rules. These stand out

1. No disgusting odor from 20+ cats allowed
2. No using candles for heat to save $1 a month.
3. No deliveries of Walmart gruel allowed to sit on a dilapidated porch
4. No accumulations of hundreds of used sardine cans in the driveway
5. No paying real estate taxes with imaginary roulette winnings.

I guess those wouldn’t affect anyone here….
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December 21st, 2024 at 12:48:54 PM permalink
I have empty lots on either side and a vacant house behind me. My closest neighbors on both sides are snowbirds I've yet to meet. The park has a fifty-page book of rules, but I don't see many enforced rules. The book was given to me when I first toured the park, and I signed that I understood them and would abide by them..
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December 21st, 2024 at 1:13:54 PM permalink
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We absolutely love our place, I just really dislike the desert.



Until I moved to Florida after having spent 30 years in Vegas, I didn't realize how much I missed the greenery. Grass everywhere, trees, bushes, etc. Having lived there so long the ugly brown of the desert became normal but just not appealing.
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I can't even stand visiting Las Vegas let alone the thought of living there. How you did it for 30 years is beyond me. The desert, any desert, is ugly. And depressing and boring.
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I got here in 1990, fresh out of high school....ACTUALLY FRESH OUT OF COUNTY JAIL for mostly FTA driving infraction warrants.

I came for the money and wemon, I did well in both categories. I made lots of friends and a career(if you want to call it that) and made money along the way. Once you set up ties to a place and that's where your bread and butter is you tend to stay.
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December 21st, 2024 at 1:16:09 PM permalink
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It is horrible to live in an HOA, knowing I can't paint my house Purple, although Pink is allowed, and the fact that I can't park my old, non-running rustbucket in my driveway while waiting for my newborn son to age enough for a father and son project reeks of Stalin.
Would you believe someone objected to my collection of busted washer machines? They don't recognize yard art. Some people have no respect for my rights to annoy my neighbors. If I want to hire a friend to rewire my house, who's business is it if he is licensed or insured? It's my writes, and who are you to tell me otherwise.
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The point is: I paid for it. The guy complaining about me paid for his. So I don't gripe about his nautical decor everywhere, his tea garden, or his useless kid in drug rehab, and I don't want to hear it from him about the things I like. That's the whole point of "private property." You get to be the king, up to where the property line ends.

Now some guy with his signet ring and simpering Stepford wife comes knocking on my door, telling me I have to make everything look like it used to in his ancestral estate in Oldmoneyshire, I call that him wanting to be my suzerain, and that's not what I signed up for. It's an attempt to broadly enforce cultural standards, which is as understandable as it is recognizable. But I would rather live in a place where people have the same cultural standards as me to begin with. Then nobody has to say a word.
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What is really horrible is people joining an HOA without reading the rules that they are expected to abide by. If you sign the contract follow the rules until you convince the board to change them.
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THIS🎯

This is a pretty stupid conversation. If you don’t want to follow the rules of an HOA, don’t buy a house that is subject to an HOA! I’m a GENIUS!

I just checked my HOA rules. These stand out

1. No disgusting odor from 20+ cats allowed
2. No using candles for heat to save $1 a month.
3. No deliveries of Walmart gruel allowed to sit on a dilapidated porch
4. No accumulations of hundreds of used sardine cans in the driveway
5. No paying real estate taxes with imaginary roulette winnings.

I guess those wouldn’t affect anyone here….
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So bitter about having to live under the burden of a HOA and so jealous of us that don't. The neighborhood I live in is as nice as anything in the Villages, a house a half a mile from me just sold for three and a half million dollars. I can target practice with my handguns anytime I want, I can build a koi pond with a gazebo over it and have an actual fire in a fire pit every night of the year if I want and nobody would ever say a word. And I can actually go outside everyday in the summer without having to worry about dropping dead of a heat stroke like my brother-in-law did in Florida 3 years ago.
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It is horrible to live in an HOA, knowing I can't paint my house Purple, although Pink is allowed, and the fact that I can't park my old, non-running rustbucket in my driveway while waiting for my newborn son to age enough for a father and son project reeks of Stalin.
Would you believe someone objected to my collection of busted washer machines? They don't recognize yard art. Some people have no respect for my rights to annoy my neighbors. If I want to hire a friend to rewire my house, who's business is it if he is licensed or insured? It's my writes, and who are you to tell me otherwise.
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The point is: I paid for it. The guy complaining about me paid for his. So I don't gripe about his nautical decor everywhere, his tea garden, or his useless kid in drug rehab, and I don't want to hear it from him about the things I like. That's the whole point of "private property." You get to be the king, up to where the property line ends.

Now some guy with his signet ring and simpering Stepford wife comes knocking on my door, telling me I have to make everything look like it used to in his ancestral estate in Oldmoneyshire, I call that him wanting to be my suzerain, and that's not what I signed up for. It's an attempt to broadly enforce cultural standards, which is as understandable as it is recognizable. But I would rather live in a place where people have the same cultural standards as me to begin with. Then nobody has to say a word.
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What is really horrible is people joining an HOA without reading the rules that they are expected to abide by. If you sign the contract follow the rules until you convince the board to change them.
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THIS🎯

This is a pretty stupid conversation. If you don’t want to follow the rules of an HOA, don’t buy a house that is subject to an HOA! I’m a GENIUS!

I just checked my HOA rules. These stand out

1. No disgusting odor from 20+ cats allowed
2. No using candles for heat to save $1 a month.
3. No deliveries of Walmart gruel allowed to sit on a dilapidated porch
4. No accumulations of hundreds of used sardine cans in the driveway
5. No paying real estate taxes with imaginary roulette winnings.

I guess those wouldn’t affect anyone here….
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Post of the year.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 21st, 2024 at 1:21:17 PM permalink
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The desert, any desert, is ugly. And depressing and boring.



One of the few things that we can agree on.
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Arizona is one of the most beautiful states I've been to . From the Sky Islands of the Sonoran Desert to the majestic Pine Forest of the Alpine, and the Painted Desert/Petrified Forest.
The desert may appear empty at first glance but sit still for a few minutes, and you'll observe an incredible variety of animals, reptiles, and insects. You aren't going to see a mountain lion, bear or a family of javelinas living in an urban environment, nor will coyotes serenade you.
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The desert is a swell place if you love the color brown, and different shades of brown. I personally have a fondness for green. People who live in the desert are always making up excuses for living there because they really hate it too they just never admit it.
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I love this post and I think it's accurate.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 21st, 2024 at 1:23:57 PM permalink
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It is horrible to live in an HOA, knowing I can't paint my house Purple, although Pink is allowed, and the fact that I can't park my old, non-running rustbucket in my driveway while waiting for my newborn son to age enough for a father and son project reeks of Stalin.
Would you believe someone objected to my collection of busted washer machines? They don't recognize yard art. Some people have no respect for my rights to annoy my neighbors. If I want to hire a friend to rewire my house, who's business is it if he is licensed or insured? It's my writes, and who are you to tell me otherwise.
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The point is: I paid for it. The guy complaining about me paid for his. So I don't gripe about his nautical decor everywhere, his tea garden, or his useless kid in drug rehab, and I don't want to hear it from him about the things I like. That's the whole point of "private property." You get to be the king, up to where the property line ends.

Now some guy with his signet ring and simpering Stepford wife comes knocking on my door, telling me I have to make everything look like it used to in his ancestral estate in Oldmoneyshire, I call that him wanting to be my suzerain, and that's not what I signed up for. It's an attempt to broadly enforce cultural standards, which is as understandable as it is recognizable. But I would rather live in a place where people have the same cultural standards as me to begin with. Then nobody has to say a word.
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What is really horrible is people joining an HOA without reading the rules that they are expected to abide by. If you sign the contract follow the rules until you convince the board to change them.
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THIS🎯

This is a pretty stupid conversation. If you don’t want to follow the rules of an HOA, don’t buy a house that is subject to an HOA! I’m a GENIUS!

I just checked my HOA rules. These stand out

1. No disgusting odor from 20+ cats allowed
2. No using candles for heat to save $1 a month.
3. No deliveries of Walmart gruel allowed to sit on a dilapidated porch
4. No accumulations of hundreds of used sardine cans in the driveway
5. No paying real estate taxes with imaginary roulette winnings.

I guess those wouldn’t affect anyone here….
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So bitter about having to live under the burden of a HOA and so jealous of us that don't. The neighborhood I live in is as nice as anything in the Villages, a house a half a mile from me just sold for three and a half million dollars. I can target practice with my handguns anytime I want, I can build a koi pond with a gazebo over it and have an actual fire in a fire pit every night of the year if I want and nobody would ever say a word. And I can actually go outside everyday in the summer without having to worry about dropping dead of a heat stroke like my brother-in-law did in Florida 3 years ago.
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And you stay in 7 months out of the year in fear you will freeze to death.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 21st, 2024 at 1:56:50 PM permalink
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And you stay in 7 months out of the year in fear you will freeze to death.
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Actual winter and winter weather lasts from about the middle of December till the end of February. We rarely have a white Christmas and we won't have one this year. 10 to 12 weeks is not 7 months. And you're just as restricted living on the West Coast, I used to live there, I know. They are on the beginning of a time zone so in December and January it starts to get dark at 4:30 and it's totally dark by 5:00 p.m.. If you have a regular job during the week it's totally dark when you get out of work. So that leaves the weekend and you pray for good weather because in the winter it's going to rain half the time and be cold, not real cold but cold enough where you have to wear a jacket. I was never more disappointed in my life then what it was like to live in California in the winter. Sure there was no snow, but you were every bit as restricted as if you were living on the east coast if you had a full time day job.
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It is horrible to live in an HOA, knowing I can't paint my house Purple, although Pink is allowed, and the fact that I can't park my old, non-running rustbucket in my driveway while waiting for my newborn son to age enough for a father and son project reeks of Stalin.
Would you believe someone objected to my collection of busted washer machines? They don't recognize yard art. Some people have no respect for my rights to annoy my neighbors. If I want to hire a friend to rewire my house, who's business is it if he is licensed or insured? It's my writes, and who are you to tell me otherwise.
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The point is: I paid for it. The guy complaining about me paid for his. So I don't gripe about his nautical decor everywhere, his tea garden, or his useless kid in drug rehab, and I don't want to hear it from him about the things I like. That's the whole point of "private property." You get to be the king, up to where the property line ends.

Now some guy with his signet ring and simpering Stepford wife comes knocking on my door, telling me I have to make everything look like it used to in his ancestral estate in Oldmoneyshire, I call that him wanting to be my suzerain, and that's not what I signed up for. It's an attempt to broadly enforce cultural standards, which is as understandable as it is recognizable. But I would rather live in a place where people have the same cultural standards as me to begin with. Then nobody has to say a word.
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What is really horrible is people joining an HOA without reading the rules that they are expected to abide by. If you sign the contract follow the rules until you convince the board to change them.
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THIS🎯

This is a pretty stupid conversation. If you don’t want to follow the rules of an HOA, don’t buy a house that is subject to an HOA! I’m a GENIUS!

I just checked my HOA rules. These stand out

1. No disgusting odor from 20+ cats allowed
2. No using candles for heat to save $1 a month.
3. No deliveries of Walmart gruel allowed to sit on a dilapidated porch
4. No accumulations of hundreds of used sardine cans in the driveway
5. No paying real estate taxes with imaginary roulette winnings.

I guess those wouldn’t affect anyone here….
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Post of the year.
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Spoken like somebody who lives under the stranglehold of an HOA. Congrats.
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December 21st, 2024 at 3:19:27 PM permalink
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Spoken like somebody who lives under the stranglehold of an HOA. Congrats.


I have an HOA, but nothing really sticks out, and I don't have much need to complain, especially as the HOA dues include paying for my water and garbage collection, as well as things like painting and re-roofing the townhouse.
There is one thing that stuck out: I am not allowed to have blinking Christmas lights. Note that there is nothing about lights that change color, which is what I do have - they just can't blink for some reason.
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December 21st, 2024 at 3:49:52 PM permalink
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We absolutely love our place, I just really dislike the desert.



Until I moved to Florida after having spent 30 years in Vegas, I didn't realize how much I missed the greenery. Grass everywhere, trees, bushes, etc. Having lived there so long the ugly brown of the desert became normal but just not appealing.
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I can't even stand visiting Las Vegas let alone the thought of living there. How you did it for 30 years is beyond me. The desert, any desert, is ugly. And depressing and boring.
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I got here in 1990, fresh out of high school....ACTUALLY FRESH OUT OF COUNTY JAIL for mostly FTA driving infraction warrants.

I came for the money and wemon, I did well in both categories. I made lots of friends and a career(if you want to call it that) and made money along the way. Once you set up ties to a place and that's where your bread and butter is you tend to stay.
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I also moved to Vegas in 1990 right out of college. I had a good job in college and had about $20k saved up and what better place to go than Las Vegas. I never expected I would live anywhere for 30 years but I was somewhat limited because of my work and skills. Once I started moving up in the slot machine development community I was pretty much limited to Nevada.
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December 21st, 2024 at 3:55:22 PM permalink
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Spoken like somebody who lives under the stranglehold of an HOA. Congrats.


I have an HOA, but nothing really sticks out, and I don't have much need to complain, especially as the HOA dues include paying for my water and garbage collection, as well as things like painting and re-roofing the townhouse.
There is one thing that stuck out: I am not allowed to have blinking Christmas lights. Note that there is nothing about lights that change color, which is what I do have - they just can't blink for some reason.
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Epileptic drivers and the lights can be confused for emergency vehicles from a distance. We have the same restriction, which is explained in the FAQ.
Other than not being able to paint my shutters purple, the only restriction I'm unhappy with is not being able to have a big dog.
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the only restriction I'm unhappy with is not being able to have a big dog.



That would be a deal breaker for me. I have never had a small dog.
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the only restriction I'm unhappy with is not being able to have a big dog.



That would be a deal breaker for me. I have never had a small dog.
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Of course not you have a small diameter hose. Guys with a small diameter hose always have big dogs. That's an inside joke between me and Mr rich.
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the only restriction I'm unhappy with is not being able to have a big dog.



That would be a deal breaker for me. I have never had a small dog.
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Me too. However, I don't have a fenced-in yard, and I'm 66. My last dog developed bone cancer, and I had to carry him up and down stairs and lift him in and out of cars. Will I be able to do that in ten years? I enjoy the freedom not having a dog brings,
It was a deal breaker when I first looked at the park in 2019
A smaller dog might make a better traveling companion, but I'm just not interested in them.
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This bargain just appeared.

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Once touted as a crown jewel in Las Vegas real estate, the owner of a sprawling 'adult playground' mansion has been dealt a humiliating blow in the high-stakes world of luxury listings.

Dan Bilzerian, a poker player and self-proclaimed 'King of Instagram' has slashed the price of his opulent Spring Valley estate by a staggering $5 million, dropping the listing price from $25 million to $19.9 million.

The move is a stark climbdown for Bilzerian, whose home previously held the title of the most expensive listing in the Las Vegas Valley. 
The 38,289-square-foot Spanish Colonial mansion sits on a five-acre lot and is something of a monument to excess, boasting amenities few homes in the world can rival. 

Built in 2006, the property features a full-sized basketball court that doubles as a roller hockey rink, a poker room, a home cinema, and even a golf simulator. 

Outside, there's a stunningly elaborate pool complete with a rock climbing wall and a slide.
Inside, the indulgences continue with an indoor trampoline, a foam pit, a batting cage, a Jujutsu room, and a 16-car garage cater to nearly every whim. 

The price reduction may reflect broader shifts in the luxury real estate market, where even the most extravagant homes can struggle to find buyers willing to pay a premium. 

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This bargain just appeared.

Quote:

Once touted as a crown jewel in Las Vegas real estate, the owner of a sprawling 'adult playground' mansion has been dealt a humiliating blow in the high-stakes world of luxury listings.

Dan Bilzerian, a poker player and self-proclaimed 'King of Instagram' has slashed the price of his opulent Spring Valley estate by a staggering $5 million, dropping the listing price from $25 million to $19.9 million.

The move is a stark climbdown for Bilzerian, whose home previously held the title of the most expensive listing in the Las Vegas Valley. 
The 38,289-square-foot Spanish Colonial mansion sits on a five-acre lot and is something of a monument to excess, boasting amenities few homes in the world can rival. 

Built in 2006, the property features a full-sized basketball court that doubles as a roller hockey rink, a poker room, a home cinema, and even a golf simulator. 















Outside, there's a stunningly elaborate pool complete with a rock climbing wall and a slide.
Inside, the indulgences continue with an indoor trampoline, a foam pit, a batting cage, a Jujutsu room, and a 16-car garage cater to nearly every whim. 

The price reduction may reflect broader shifts in the luxury real estate market, where even the most extravagant homes can struggle to find buyers willing to pay a premium. 


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Location is everything. He'd probably get $25 million for the garage alone in Manhattan
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This bargain just appeared.

Quote:

Once touted as a crown jewel in Las Vegas real estate, the owner of a sprawling 'adult playground' mansion has been dealt a humiliating blow in the high-stakes world of luxury listings.

Dan Bilzerian, a poker player and self-proclaimed 'King of Instagram' has slashed the price of his opulent Spring Valley estate by a staggering $5 million, dropping the listing price from $25 million to $19.9 million.

The move is a stark climbdown for Bilzerian, whose home previously held the title of the most expensive listing in the Las Vegas Valley. 
The 38,289-square-foot Spanish Colonial mansion sits on a five-acre lot and is something of a monument to excess, boasting amenities few homes in the world can rival. 

Built in 2006, the property features a full-sized basketball court that doubles as a roller hockey rink, a poker room, a home cinema, and even a golf simulator. 

Outside, there's a stunningly elaborate pool complete with a rock climbing wall and a slide.
Inside, the indulgences continue with an indoor trampoline, a foam pit, a batting cage, a Jujutsu room, and a 16-car garage cater to nearly every whim. 

The price reduction may reflect broader shifts in the luxury real estate market, where even the most extravagant homes can struggle to find buyers willing to pay a premium. 


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If I am not mistaken there is a member here that is currently looking for a house in Vegas.
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January 12th, 2025 at 10:59:21 AM permalink
A famous house in Tucson was on the market for five point nine million, then it was reduced to five mil. It was recently listed for just under four million. From what I understand, the owner is a retired physician, and it's his main house. Getting half what you expected for your home must suck.
There is huge demand here for million-dollar homes, but the very top end is hit and miss.
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January 12th, 2025 at 12:52:46 PM permalink
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If I am not mistaken there is a member here that is currently looking for a house in Vegas.
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You are not mistaken, although $19.9 million is just a little outside of my price range - oh, by about $19.4 million or so. Besides, as I live alone, I'm looking for something more in the condo/townhouse type of house.
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January 12th, 2025 at 2:39:14 PM permalink
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If I am not mistaken there is a member here that is currently looking for a house in Vegas.
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You are not mistaken, although $19.9 million is just a little outside of my price range - oh, by about $19.4 million or so. Besides, as I live alone, I'm looking for something more in the condo/townhouse type of house.
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If that is the case, where would you store your 19 cars?
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January 12th, 2025 at 2:42:36 PM permalink
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If I am not mistaken there is a member here that is currently looking for a house in Vegas.
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You are not mistaken, although $19.9 million is just a little outside of my price range - oh, by about $19.4 million or so. Besides, as I live alone, I'm looking for something more in the condo/townhouse type of house.
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If that is the case, where would you store your 19 cars?
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I live in the San Francisco Bay Area - I have enough trouble affording gas and insurance for one car, much less 19. Still, considering how much of a packrat I am, I'm sure I can put the space for the other 18 cars to good use.
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January 12th, 2025 at 2:50:27 PM permalink
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I live in the San Francisco Bay Area - I have enough trouble affording gas and insurance for one car, much less 19. Still, considering how much of a packrat I am, I'm sure I can put the space for the other 18 cars to good use.



I hate to admit this, but my Vegas house had a three car garage that was filled with crap and we couldn't get any of our cars in the garage.
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January 12th, 2025 at 3:09:32 PM permalink
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I live in the San Francisco Bay Area - I have enough trouble affording gas and insurance for one car, much less 19. Still, considering how much of a packrat I am, I'm sure I can put the space for the other 18 cars to good use.



I hate to admit this, but my Vegas house had a three car garage that was filled with crap and we couldn't get any of our cars in the garage.
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I don't trust people with immaculate garages.
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So driving down in a few days to move into recently bought Florida house! Will be there around 4 months. So went into local Spectrum store to find out what to do so I’m not paying the $277 a month my internet/cable bill has ballooned to. Nice girl looks at my bill, and says if I was a ‘new customer’ I could get the same package for around $170 a month. So she recommends I cancel, and re start as it will be more than 3 months so I can count as a new customer then. I tell her (it’s Thursday) that I don’t want to cancel until Monday and she says that is no problem. She types on her computer, gives me a printout, and tells me what equipment I have to return, how long I have, and where to return it to.

I don’t go home til 8 hours later. Wife is watching something on Netflix on bedroom TV. When I turn on living room TV there is a Spectrum number to call but no channels. At first I get the ‘outage in your area’ message that specifically states it will be fixed by 9pm. It’s not fixed by 10pm and I call, wade through the menu, and speak to a polite representative. Who says he noticed I put in a termination request. But also does say he noticed it will be effective on Monday. He does get me a supervisor pretty quickly. The supervisor says that they are having problems with these terminations. That ‘for some reason’ when ANY termination request is put in the internet stays on until the correct date but the cable gets turned off ‘in a few hours’. He says he can reverse the termination and turn my cable back on, and I’ll have to call Monday to cancel. He says there is ‘no way’ for him to take a request for me to cancel on Thursday for Monday. Even though that’s EXACTLY what the in store agent did! I suggested they INFORM their in store agents, who handle these requests, of this glitch. He agreed that would be a good idea.
Anyway, I’m not a computer programmer, but this seems like GROSS incompetence to me. I’m going to run it by my computer programmer son tonight!

All the other cancels/holds went smoothly. Plus won $250 at the casino! And sports betting good too!
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Whatever cable service you're using should let you suspend service, This is good if you're maintaining more than one household and won't be there, or going on extended leaves, like on vacation.
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January 17th, 2025 at 11:18:48 AM permalink
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Whatever cable service you're using should let you suspend service, This is good if you're maintaining more than one household and won't be there, or going on extended leaves, like on vacation.
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That’s of course true. But they wouldn’t. Not for the length of time I’ll be away.

I think one of the secondary points I was making is how much I was overpaying once the introductory offer ended. And how I’ll re-qualify once I return.

The main point is HOW RIDICULOUS it is that they can’t figure out how to properly handle an order for service termination for cable TV but have no problem doing it for internet.
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January 17th, 2025 at 12:37:07 PM permalink
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So driving down in a few days to move into recently bought Florida house! Will be there around 4 months. So went into local Spectrum store to find out what to do so I’m not paying the $277 a month my internet/cable bill has ballooned to.
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Yeah, $275 is apparently the max pain point customers are willing to bend over for before they call to cancel.

My mom's verizon cable/internet/home phone quickly shot up to $275/month but only like $290 now after a few years after.
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