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A few years after I built my little waterfall, turtle, and fish pond/garden they demanded I take it out. I had to fight pretty hard to win that battle. It was crazy the length I went to keep them from making me take it out.
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I don't know how people live like that. I can take a couple of my guns tomorrow and go down by the barn and target practice for an hour and my neighbors will say nothing because they can't say anything. Where I live target practice on your own property is totally legal. Let alone building a waterfall or pond or anything else I wanted.
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I don't know how people live like that. I can take a couple of my guns tomorrow and go down by the barn and target practice for an hour and my neighbors will say nothing because they can't say anything. Where I live target practice on your own property is totally legal. Let alone building a waterfall or pond or anything else I wanted.
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Your neighbors probably don't mind, and likely some of them do the same thing. When you live among people with shared cultural values you tend to like and dislike the same things and you can communicate with one another well enough to stay out of each other's way. So you already know when, where, and how to shoot your guns, or build things, in a way that is not going to upset anyone.
When you get into places that are more "multicultural" that common understanding is not present and they rely on myriad rules and strict enforcement to prevent anyone from offending anyone else's sensibilities, or at least the sensibilities of the current "squeaky wheels." It results in a bland, unsatisfying environment where people live like potted plants, and it also attracts people who want to be the enforcers and everything that comes with that. And people still manage to make life unbearable for one another. Rudyard Kipling wrote a poem called "The Stranger" that describes this in stark terms.
Here's the thing, when you live in Las Vegas it's kinda par for the course to have an HOA unless you want to live in BFE or crappy areas. HOAs are not all bad, it keeps idiots from doing idiotic things and driving the value of your home down considerably.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
A few years after I built my little waterfall, turtle, and fish pond/garden they demanded I take it out. I had to fight pretty hard to win that battle. It was crazy the length I went to keep them from making me take it out.
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I don't know how people live like that. I can take a couple of my guns tomorrow and go down by the barn and target practice for an hour and my neighbors will say nothing because they can't say anything. Where I live target practice on your own property is totally legal. Let alone building a waterfall or pond or anything else I wanted.
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When I was fully invested in Advantage Play none of that stuff really mattered to me as I was spending most of my time away from home. It's not like we have kids and a bunch of family here in Las Vegas.
As far as being free to do what you want, I get you, trust me, that's why I recently bought over 25 acres of land with a river/ stream running through it and much more. I plan on buying more land in a different state as well. If things go well and I get the current place I'm looking I'll have over 80 acres with Riverfront including some Islands. One of my filters when looking is... NO HOA.
When I was looking for a place there in LV the number one goal in mind was location location location. I didn't want to be so far out it would be a nightmare driving from casino to casino and back home.
I wanted at least two bedrooms and one bathroom with an attached garage. This place had two bathrooms a two-car attached, and separate outdoor storage) and two stories with something that was centrally located. This humble place hit all the notes and more since it included my own private gated Courtyard.
Of course, I wanted a good price as well. I got more than I bargained for at a better price than I was anticipating. I looked at a bunch of places prior to finding the one I'm currently at and they didn't even compare, so as soon as I saw this place I had to have it. We absolutely love our place, I just really dislike the desert.
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When you get into places that are more "multicultural" that common understanding is not present and they rely on myriad rules and strict enforcement to prevent anyone from offending anyone else's sensibilities, or at least the sensibilities of the current "squeaky wheels." It results in a bland, unsatisfying environment where people live like potted plants, and it also attracts people who want to be the enforcers and everything that comes with that. And people still manage to make life unbearable for one another. Rudyard Kipling wrote a poem called "The Stranger" that describes this in stark terms.
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Well put! Exactly why I never want to live in an HOA neighborhood. If I downsize to a condo or townhouse I will have no choice, but that would be it. I don't buy the whole "it protects the property value" thing, either. We have zoning and code laws. Paying someone so they can tell you what color you are allowed to paint your house or how you can landscape? Why?
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When you get into places that are more "multicultural" that common understanding is not present and they rely on myriad rules and strict enforcement to prevent anyone from offending anyone else's sensibilities, or at least the sensibilities of the current "squeaky wheels." It results in a bland, unsatisfying environment where people live like potted plants, and it also attracts people who want to be the enforcers and everything that comes with that. And people still manage to make life unbearable for one another. Rudyard Kipling wrote a poem called "The Stranger" that describes this in stark terms.
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Well put! Exactly why I never want to live in an HOA neighborhood. If I downsize to a condo or townhouse I will have no choice, but that would be it. I don't buy the whole "it protects the property value" thing, either. We have zoning and code laws. Paying someone so they can tell you what color you are allowed to paint your house or how you can landscape? Why?
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It's rudimentary communism. A deciding body dictating how everybody else will live. It's what humans naturally gravitate towards because people are generally followers and not leaders so they get taken advantage of by the people who are leaders. It has to constantly be fought against because the followers are lemmings and they basically really like being told what to do and it ruins it for everybody else.
Would you believe someone objected to my collection of busted washer machines? They don't recognize yard art. Some people have no respect for my rights to annoy my neighbors. If I want to hire a friend to rewire my house, who's business is it if he is licensed or insured? It's my writes, and who are you to tell me otherwise.
Quote: AxelWolfWe absolutely love our place, I just really dislike the desert.
Until I moved to Florida after having spent 30 years in Vegas, I didn't realize how much I missed the greenery. Grass everywhere, trees, bushes, etc. Having lived there so long the ugly brown of the desert became normal but just not appealing.
Quote: billryanIt is horrible to live in an HOA, knowing I can't paint my house Purple, although Pink is allowed, and the fact that I can't park my old, non-running rustbucket in my driveway while waiting for my newborn son to age enough for a father and son project reeks of Stalin.
Would you believe someone objected to my collection of busted washer machines? They don't recognize yard art. Some people have no respect for my rights to annoy my neighbors. If I want to hire a friend to rewire my house, who's business is it if he is licensed or insured? It's my writes, and who are you to tell me otherwise.
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Besides your neighbors, most people don't live like that so it's not a problem. Usually townships have rules regarding non-running cars and broken wash machines in your yard and a separate body like an HOA it's not required yet it's there anyway because the township doesn't go far enough. It lets you put up a cute mailbox or even God forbid hang a Christmas wreath on your door. An HOA will make sure that abominable behavior like this is kept under control. Like one night you might choose to, oh my God, park your car in the driveway and not in the garage. Rightfully so the HOA will hang you by your cojones until dead.
Quote: DRichQuote: AxelWolfWe absolutely love our place, I just really dislike the desert.
Until I moved to Florida after having spent 30 years in Vegas, I didn't realize how much I missed the greenery. Grass everywhere, trees, bushes, etc. Having lived there so long the ugly brown of the desert became normal but just not appealing.
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I can't even stand visiting Las Vegas let alone the thought of living there. How you did it for 30 years is beyond me. The desert, any desert, is ugly. And depressing and boring.
Quote: EvenBobThe desert, any desert, is ugly. And depressing and boring.
One of the few things that we can agree on.
Quote: DRichQuote: EvenBobThe desert, any desert, is ugly. And depressing and boring.
One of the few things that we can agree on.
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Arizona is one of the most beautiful states I've been to . From the Sky Islands of the Sonoran Desert to the majestic Pine Forest of the Alpine, and the Painted Desert/Petrified Forest.
The desert may appear empty at first glance but sit still for a few minutes, and you'll observe an incredible variety of animals, reptiles, and insects. You aren't going to see a mountain lion, bear or a family of javelinas living in an urban environment, nor will coyotes serenade you.