My new hobby, and how to finance it
Also picked up two dozen U of Freshman Orientation t-shirts for just over thirty cents each.
A case of 96 single-serve Cheerios bowls for $21.
I also picked up two dorm-sized fridges for $3 each.
The auction continues this afternoon but I'm running out of space.
Quote: billryanThe University of Arizona has been having a weeklong surplus auction. Among other lots, I picked up 120 new Coop pillows for forty-five cents each. I donated twenty to the local men's shelter and distributed about two dozen to my homeless friends. They take up a lot of space. I might put some up on Craigslist as they retail for about $30 each.
Also picked up two dozen U of Freshman Orientation t-shirts for just over thirty cents each.
A case of 96 single-serve Cheerios bowls for $21.
I also picked up two dorm-sized fridges for $3 each.
The auction continues this afternoon but I'm running out of space.
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noone wanted the pillows at .50 each? that's $3600 if $30 each
I might call an Amazon reseller for a couple dozen, but they'll mostly go to the needy. They need them more than I need a few hundred bucks.
The Council tied 3-3 on an ordinance that would ban camping in the many washes that surround Tucson. It's estimated that 400-600 people camp there nightly, and the city only has shelter capacity for less than a dozen of them. The city is eyeing the area of the biggest encampment for an indoor pickleball stadium. .
Quote: billryanThe Tucson City Council voted 5-1 to ban standing on center medians. It already had an ordinance against panhandling on the medians, but this law supersedes it. Anyone observed standing on a median for two light cycles is subject to an eight-hour detention and a fine. Fines are accurate quickly- $250 and 48 hours in jail for a third offense.
The Council tied 3-3 on an ordinance that would ban camping in the many washes that surround Tucson. It's estimated that 400-600 people camp there nightly, and the city only has shelter capacity for less than a dozen of them. The city is eyeing the area of the biggest encampment for an indoor pickleball stadium. .
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I would hope they would ban lingering in a wash. If the water comes you will be recovered rather than rescued.
It makes total sense to fine homeless people...Quote: billryanThe Tucson City Council voted 5-1 to ban standing on center medians. It already had an ordinance against panhandling on the medians, but this law supersedes it. Anyone observed standing on a median for two light cycles is subject to an eight-hour detention and a fine. Fines are accurate quickly- $250 and 48 hours in jail for a third offense.
The Council tied 3-3 on an ordinance that would ban camping in the many washes that surround Tucson. It's estimated that 400-600 people camp there nightly, and the city only has shelter capacity for less than a dozen of them. The city is eyeing the area of the biggest encampment for an indoor pickleball stadium. .
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NOT!!!
It makes more sense to fine the people who give them stuff.
If people stop giving them handouts, they will move on.
Quote: AxelWolfIt makes total sense to fine homeless people...Quote: billryanThe Tucson City Council voted 5-1 to ban standing on center medians. It already had an ordinance against panhandling on the medians, but this law supersedes it. Anyone observed standing on a median for two light cycles is subject to an eight-hour detention and a fine. Fines are accurate quickly- $250 and 48 hours in jail for a third offense.
The Council tied 3-3 on an ordinance that would ban camping in the many washes that surround Tucson. It's estimated that 400-600 people camp there nightly, and the city only has shelter capacity for less than a dozen of them. The city is eyeing the area of the biggest encampment for an indoor pickleball stadium. .
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NOT!!!
It makes more sense to fine the people who give them stuff.
If people stop giving them handouts, they will move on.
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The givers are enablers, for some reason they like enabling the homeless to remain homeless. They get a kick out of it, not to mention a warm fuzzy feeling all over. It's a symbiotic relationship, they need each other. The truth is if people stopped making it easy for them to be homeless they would find a way not to be homeless. But that's never going to happen. You don't see homeless people in China, the reason is they don't put up with it. You also don't see the in China because they don't put up with that either. I was watching a YouTube video just today of a couple guys in China from England. They had their bags from the airport and they were in a park and we're told just leave your bags and we'll get them later. They were totally paranoid that somebody would steal them, but they came back 4 hours later and the bags were untouched. Try that any place in the United states.
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The givers are enablers, for some reason they like enabling the homeless to remain homeless. They get a kick out of it, not to mention a warm fuzzy feeling all over. It's a symbiotic relationship, they need each other. The truth is if people stopped making it easy for them to be homeless they would find a way not to be homeless. But that's never going to happen. You don't see homeless people in China, the reason is they don't put up with it. You also don't see the in China because they don't put up with that either. I was watching a YouTube video just today of a couple guys in China from England. They had their bags from the airport and they were in a park and we're told just leave your bags and we'll get them later. They were totally paranoid that somebody would steal them, but they came back 4 hours later and the bags were untouched. Try that any place in the United states.
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That's because Red China has terrifying law enforcement and penal system.
How terrifying would you like our law enforcement and penal system to be to prevent panhandling and luggage theft?
It's an ancient problem. People get seduced by the idea of heavy law enforcement and severe punishment for things that affect them in everyday life. Then they get it, and discover it and the apparatus used to provide it take on a life of their own and now they are living in a police state where everyone needs to fear. I happen to like seeing a little bit of crime. It just means I too can get away with a few little things that are important to me, should the need arise.
If anyone needs that explained further, feel free to PM me.
Now as I look around, it's very plain to see
this old world is a funny place to be
The gambling man is rich and the working man is poor
I ain't got no home in this world anymore.
Ans we're stranded on this road that goes from sea to sea
100,000 other men are stranded here with me
I worry all the time, like I never done before
Cause I ain't got no home in the world anymore
Woodie Guthrie.
Quote: billryanFeed the hungry and take care of those who have nothing.
If anyone needs that explained further, feel free to PM me.
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But they don't have nothing, they live in the most prosperous wealthy country in the world. And because of that they can choose to be homeless and live off the Overflow of people like you. They choose to be lazy, crooked, drug abusers because they know they will be taken care of by the guilt-ridden wealthy people around them. It's disgusting, always been disgusting always will be disgusting.
Quote: EvenBobYou don't see homeless people in China, the reason is they don't put up with it. You also don't see the in China because they don't put up with that either.
there are lots and lots and lots of homeless people in China
in 2011 there were about 2.41 million homeless adults and 179,000 homeless children there - see link
in 2015 it was reported that there were more than 3 million homeless people in China
according to the Ministry of Civil Affairs China had about 2,000 shelters and 20,000 social workers attempting to aid about 3 million homeless people in 2014
a google search answer estimated that there are currently 2.5 to 3 million homeless people in China
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Quote: lilredroosterQuote: EvenBobYou don't see homeless people in China, the reason is they don't put up with it. You also don't see the in China because they don't put up with that either.
there are lots and lots and lots of homeless people in China
in 2011 there were about 2.41 million homeless adults and 179,000 homeless children there - see link
in 2015 it was reported that there were more than 3 million homeless people in China
according to the Ministry of Civil Affairs China had about 2,000 shelters and 20,000 social workers attempting to aid about 3 million homeless people in 2014
a google search answer estimated that there are currently 2.5 to 3 million homeless people in China
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"While China doesn't have a large homeless population like some Western countries, there are people facing housing insecurity, and the government manages them through various means, including temporary shelters and sending them back to their hometowns."
3 million people being homeless in a population of 1.5 billion is not even a pimple on a rhino's ass. In all the tourist videos I've seen from China, and they go everywhere, I've never seen a homeless Street person. 3 million out of 1.5 billion and most of them being handled by the government, you really have to search to find one living on the street.
Quote: EvenBob3 million people being homeless in a population of 1.5 billion is not even a pimple on a rhino's ass. In all the tourist videos I've seen
per this google search there are about 771,480 homeless persons in the U.S.- see link
China has about 3.5 times as many homeless as the U.S.
and a population that is a little more than 4 times as great as the U.S. population which is about 340 million
the difference is not all that great
tourist videos are a horrible way to judge the issue
your point is not a good one - not at all
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https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+homeless+in+the+u.s.&oq=how+many+homeless+in+the+u.s.&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30l9.5642j1j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&sei=_v7eZ4DeI5Hl5NoPwNDeIQ
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Quote: EvenBob3 million out of 1.5 billion and most of them being handled by the government, you really have to search to find one living on the street.
Most analysts believe the Chinese population is much lower than 1.5billion. Some believe it may be below one billion now.
Quote: lilredroosterQuote: EvenBob3 million people being homeless in a population of 1.5 billion is not even a pimple on a rhino's ass. In all the tourist videos I've seen
per this google search there are about 771,480 homeless persons in the U.S.- see link
China has about 3.5 times as many homeless as the U.S.
and a population that is a little more than 4 times as great as the U.S. population which is about 340 million
the difference is not all that great
tourist videos are a horrible way to judge the issue
your point is not a good one - not at all
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https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+homeless+in+the+u.s.&oq=how+many+homeless+in+the+u.s.&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30l9.5642j1j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&sei=_v7eZ4DeI5Hl5NoPwNDeIQ
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It's how they live that's important. Most of our homeless are on the streets and most of those in China are not. Too bad you can't see that as being totally different.
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It's how they live that's important. Most of our homeless are on the streets and most of those in China are not. Too bad you can't see that as being totally different.
When you imply they are not on the streets are you factoring in that most areas of China do not have streets? One thing I read said the estimate for homelessness in China is between 2.5 million and 300 million. Another said about 20% of the population.
I don't think anyone really knows as the Chinese don't really do a census and definitely wouldn't report the number of homeless.
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It's how they live that's important. Most of our homeless are on the streets and most of those in China are not. Too bad you can't see that as being totally different.
When you imply they are not on the streets are you factoring in that most areas of China do not have streets? One thing I read said the estimate for homelessness in China is between 2.5 million and 300 million. Another said about 20% of the population.
I don't think anyone really knows as the Chinese don't really do a census and definitely wouldn't report the number of homeless.
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"I am Canadian lived 10 years in Chengdu in Sichuan province. A beautiful metropolis of 10 million inhabitants. During that decade I only saw 2 homeless people. What I did see was a great mass of people working to keep the city clean and tidy. That gives you a sense of pride and of being part of a productive and healthy society."
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"I am Canadian lived 10 years in Chengdu in Sichuan province. A beautiful metropolis of 10 million inhabitants. During that decade I only saw 2 homeless people.
If we do believe that guy, what about the other 700 cities and the rural areas? Also, I bet if you checked Chengdu now or in a few months it will be much higher because of all the layoffs in Chengdu. The Chinese economy is crashing like something that has never happened before on this planet.
Also, I live in a small city of about 220,000 people and I have not seen a single homeless person. Therefore, they do not exist.
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"I am Canadian lived 10 years in Chengdu in Sichuan province. A beautiful metropolis of 10 million inhabitants. During that decade I only saw 2 homeless people.
If we do believe that guy, what about the other 700 cities and the rural areas? Also, I bet if you checked Chengdu now or in a few months it will be much higher because of all the layoffs in Chengdu. The Chinese economy is crashing like something that has never happened before on this planet.
Also, I live in a small city of about 220,000 people and I have not seen a single homeless person. Therefore, they do not exist.
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I have probably watched 100 tourist videos from China and they travel everywhere and I've never seen a homeless person on the street. There's nobody telling these people where to go, there's no minders, there's no guides making them avoid certain parts of cities. If there are Street people in China they're just aren't that many of them. Certainly no tent cities or encampments like we have in the United states. Occasionally they'll see a beggar which I suppose could be a street person. China is an impressive country, the buildings are clean the streets are clean everywhere you go. They take pride in their country, I wish we did.
A couple of volunteers I spoke to said it was busier than last year.
Perfect weather for an Air Show, low 80s and a cloudless sky.
Living so near an airbase, it seems like everyday is a show, but I did see a few vintage WW2 era bombers. The big attractions are later this afternoon.
I'm not having a beer with any of them anytime soon. Without giving it much thought, I'd think about half the bags I distribute are one-time affairs, and I never see the person again.
I had a friend in Jackson Heights who was a CPA with his own storefront business. He hooked up with a crackhead and the downward spiral was quick and painful to watch. Within a few months, he lost everything, and after stealing from a friend who let him couch surf, he was shunned by everyone. He was dead within a year and few mourned him.
I'm working on a project that might take my involvement to the next level. A homeless advocate I've met has an idea in the permit phase. Hopefully, it can get started in the fall
Quote: SOOPOOBilly, you used the phrase, ‘my homeless friends’. Are they really your ‘friends’, in the sense that you know their names, what their likes are, their family situation, why they are homeless, etc? Or just ‘friends’ in that they are fellow human beings on the planet? My point, if I had a friend that was actually homeless, I’m not sure what I’d do. To me, being truly homeless would be such an epic disaster. As best I can tell, I’ve never had a friend become homeless.
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I have been there.
I let her stay in the guest room for a time, while she was supposedly pulling her life back together.
She did not, in fact, pull her life back together, and we had to turn her out after a few months.
I have come to think that I can help a stranger more readily than I can help a friend, as I am less likely to let my boundaries erode to the point I am being taken advantage of.
Quote: DieterQuote: SOOPOOBilly, you used the phrase, ‘my homeless friends’. Are they really your ‘friends’, in the sense that you know their names, what their likes are, their family situation, why they are homeless, etc? Or just ‘friends’ in that they are fellow human beings on the planet? My point, if I had a friend that was actually homeless, I’m not sure what I’d do. To me, being truly homeless would be such an epic disaster. As best I can tell, I’ve never had a friend become homeless.
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I have been there.
I let her stay in the guest room for a time, while she was supposedly pulling her life back together.
She did not, in fact, pull her life back together, and we had to turn her out after a few months.
I have come to think that I can help a stranger more readily than I can help a friend, as I am less likely to let my boundaries erode to the point I am being taken advantage of.
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Most people do not become homeless, they choose to be homeless. They choose to lead that lifestyle of being lazy and living off handouts and being drug addicts. Oh sure there are some people who legitimately lost their livelihood and have no home but they are few and far between. People who say they would stay in your guest room while they pull their lives back together are just using you for a free place to stay for a while. They are lazy and all all they do is take take take. These type of people have been around forever, they even made nursery rhymes and fairy tales about them. Remember The Little Red Hen who planted her wheat crop and asked all the other creatures to help her and they refused and when she was all done and had baked bread from the wheat they all wanted to eat it and she wouldn't let them. That Fairy Tales From Russia in the middle of the 19th century.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DieterQuote: SOOPOOBilly, you used the phrase, ‘my homeless friends’. Are they really your ‘friends’, in the sense that you know their names, what their likes are, their family situation, why they are homeless, etc? Or just ‘friends’ in that they are fellow human beings on the planet? My point, if I had a friend that was actually homeless, I’m not sure what I’d do. To me, being truly homeless would be such an epic disaster. As best I can tell, I’ve never had a friend become homeless.
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I have been there.
I let her stay in the guest room for a time, while she was supposedly pulling her life back together.
She did not, in fact, pull her life back together, and we had to turn her out after a few months.
I have come to think that I can help a stranger more readily than I can help a friend, as I am less likely to let my boundaries erode to the point I am being taken advantage of.
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Most people do not become homeless, they choose to be homeless. They choose to lead that lifestyle of being lazy and living off handouts and being drug addicts. Oh sure there are some people who legitimately lost their livelihood and have no home but they are few and far between. People who say they would stay in your guest room while they pull their lives back together are just using you for a free place to stay for a while. They are lazy and all all they do is take take take. These type of people have been around forever, they even made nursery rhymes and fairy tales about them. Remember The Little Red Hen who planted her wheat crop and asked all the other creatures to help her and they refused and when she was all done and had baked bread from the wheat they all wanted to eat it and she wouldn't let them. That Fairy Tales From Russia in the middle of the 19th century.
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There are some people who really are just trying to get it back together, or have a few weeks of gap between apartments (nothing available until next month), or...
They're clearly not the concern.
I haven't found a good set of indicators to predict which someone will be, and I prefer not to tar everyone with the same brush. (Case by case basis.)
Quote: JohnzimboEB's dime store psychiatry has no room for case by case though
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Who cares about case by case, I'm not dealing with anybody on a personal basis who's homeless. All I care about is the general statistics and that is that most of them choose to be homeless. I knew tons of these people when I lived in California never met one of them that did not want to be homeless. They loved it, they worked at it, they did everything they could to keep it going. They were lazy moochers who were also drug addicts. Society is full of lazy people, like the stat that 80% of the work in any corporation is done by 20% of the employees. The rest of them are there just to collect a paycheck and do as little as possible. They spend their off hours with their asses crammed in a lazy boy stuffing their faces with junk food staring at the TV.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: JohnzimboEB's dime store psychiatry has no room for case by case though
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Who cares about case by case, I'm not dealing with anybody on a personal basis who's homeless. All I care about is the general statistics and that is that most of them choose to be homeless. I knew tons of these people when I lived in California never met one of them that did not want to be homeless. They loved it, they worked at it, they did everything they could to keep it going. They were lazy moochers who were also drug addicts. Society is full of lazy people, like the stat that 80% of the work in any corporation is done by 20% of the employees. The rest of them are there just to collect a paycheck and do as little as possible. They spend their off hours with their asses crammed in a lazy boy stuffing their faces with junk food staring at the TV.
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There is a difference between choosing a bad outcome, and choosing to accept the risk of that bad outcome.
No one chooses lung cancer. Yet many choose to smoke cigarettes, knowing that lung cancer is a risk associated with smoking.
A bum is not like a feral cat who cannot stand to live inside. If you offered him a house, for free, with no rules or responsibilities, sure he'd take it. Homeless people break in to homes all the time. He chose his drugs, his dissolution and his selfish treatment of others and his unsheltered homelessness is a consequence of that.
Now to argue against myself- sure they chose the act that led to the bad outcome, but they usually don't make that association or willingly accept the risk using any kind of risk calculus. A smoker typically doesn't say "This habit gives me so much pleasure, if I get cancer it will have been worth it." He says "It won't happen to me. I don't smoke that much. I'm immune. I'll quit someday before that happens, etc." Likewise the bum doesn't say "I'm going to get high. I love getting high, and if I render myself unemployable, a criminal, destitute, and then exploit and abuse every person I know until literally no one wants me around, so be it." He says. "I'm going to party! It'll be fun! Lookit me, I feel like a king! People will understand and admire me. And the ones who don't they're just envious and unreasonable. Stop oppressing me!"
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyA smoker typically doesn't say "This habit gives me so much pleasure, if I get cancer it will have been worth it." He says "It won't happen to me. I don't smoke that much. I'm immune. I'll quit someday before that happens, etc."
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Hindsight says roughly 30 years of two packs a day were not, in fact, worth the heart attack and aggravating a heap of other health conditions.
Getting strapped to a hospital gurney and breathing oxygen through a hose for a week is a lousy way to quit.
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Getting strapped to a hospital gurney and breathing oxygen through a hose for a week is a lousy way to quit.
I have spent close to a cumulative year in the hospital for all of my maladies.
a great number of the homeless are military Veterans -
many have physical disabilities or mental illness
per Wiki there were 100,000 homeless veterans in Chicago during the Truman Administration
and in 1987 the number of homeless vets was as high as 300,000
in Jan. of 2024 the VA reported that about 33,000 Vets were homeless
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeless_veterans_in_the_United_States
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a great number of the homeless are military Veterans -
many have physical disabilities or mental illness
per Wiki there were 100,000 homeless veterans in Chicago during the Truman Administration
and in 1987 the number of homeless vets was as high as 300,000
in Jan. of 2024 the VA reported that about 33,000 Vets were homeless
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeless_veterans_in_the_United_States
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Quite a few people I meet bring up their veteran status, but I'm skeptical about many of them.
Tucson gives priority to Vets for shelter, but it's not always easy to prove your status when you are homeless and lost everything.
I'm not sure which I find sadder- the sixty-year-old homeless Vet or the twenty-five-year-old.
I saw a news report about the growing homeless problem on Fort Lowell, a part of town I rarely visit. I drove down it last night around midnight and there were at least one hundred homeless in a three-block stretch, nearly all of them are very young- teenagers and early 20s. I recognized a couple from other parts of town.
Quote: lilredrooster.
a great number of the homeless are military Veterans -
many have physical disabilities or mental illness
per Wiki there were 100,000 homeless veterans in Chicago during the Truman Administration
and in 1987 the number of homeless vets was as high as 300,000
in Jan. of 2024 the VA reported that about 33,000 Vets were homeless
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeless_veterans_in_the_United_States
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Of course homeless people have always had a lot of vets, and here's the reason. A lot of men join the military because you get taken care of, you get a crummy little job and three meals a day and you can do it easily with a double digit IQ. So when you get out of the military you have no idea how to do anything because you're basically an idiot so you become homeless cuz that's the easy way. I get so tired of everybody treating men in the military like they're all made out of gold. They aren't. Some of them are, most of them are schlubs who can't do anything else. People join the military for a few years and then think they should be taken care of by the government for the rest of their lives. Life doesn't work that way.
Pope Francis.
I stand with the poor, the powerless, and the voiceless—I stand with those whose dignity has been denied and those whose burdens are more than they can bear.
I stand with the despised and the left out. I stand with the demonized and the disposable. Father Gregory Boyle.
I'd signed up as a sponsor for something contingent on the rest of the sponsorships, and today, the last one was signed off on.
Starting in mid-May, a three-stall shower truck will be available in a church parking lot for four hours one day a week.
I'd initially considered buying one of these trucks, but my estimates were zero.
I'd had a comic listed at a consignment shop that also lists the books on eBay for 15% more. Yesterday was the 6th month of the book being listed, so I lowered it by 15%. Within minutes, the book sold. Today, I found out the book sold in the short time between me lowering the price and the auction houses system lowering the eBay price, so I'm getting the full eBay price but paying a commission on the reduced price.
I called them, and the owner said it was the first time in several hundred thousand transactions that anyone had noticed it. He estimated there should be less than a ten-minute window from when I lower a price to it being reduced on the Bay.
Quote: billryan...
I'd signed up as a sponsor for something contingent on the rest of the sponsorships, and today, the last one was signed off on.
Starting in mid-May, a three-stall shower truck will be available in a church parking lot for four hours one day a week...
Oh, heavens no.
Did you consider the alternative ways enclosed showers are going to be used by this population? As a toilet. As a place to use drugs and dispose of the paraphernalia. As a place for sodomy and related misbehavior. Someone is going to have to clean up the mess.
In prison (a very similar population, with much overlap) a lot of assaults and other misbehavior happens in bathrooms and showers, and there are tactical reasons for that which apply to all public bathrooms and showers. I implore you to consider the safety of the persons who will be using this facility (particularly the females and younger persons) and the dignity of whomever is going to have to clean and secure it, before putting it into operation.
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyA smoker typically doesn't say "This habit gives me so much pleasure, if I get cancer it will have been worth it." He says "It won't happen to me. I don't smoke that much. I'm immune. I'll quit someday before that happens, etc."
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Hindsight says roughly 30 years of two packs a day were not, in fact, worth the heart attack and aggravating a heap of other health conditions.
Getting strapped to a hospital gurney and breathing oxygen through a hose for a week is a lousy way to quit.
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so much Pleasure from smoking?!?
explain?
Quote: 100xOddsQuote: Dieter(truncated!)
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyA smoker typically doesn't say "This habit gives me so much pleasure, if I get cancer it will have been worth it." He says "It won't happen to me. I don't smoke that much. I'm immune. I'll quit someday before that happens, etc."
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Hindsight says roughly 30 years of two packs a day were not, in fact, worth the heart attack and aggravating a heap of other health conditions.
Getting strapped to a hospital gurney and breathing oxygen through a hose for a week is a lousy way to quit.
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so much Pleasure from smoking?!?
explain?
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It felt pretty darn good at the time.
Struggling and gasping to breathe on my own for a few hours didn't.
2/10, do not recommend.
Quote: DieterQuote: 100xOddsQuote: Dieter(truncated!)
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyA smoker typically doesn't say "This habit gives me so much pleasure, if I get cancer it will have been worth it." He says "It won't happen to me. I don't smoke that much. I'm immune. I'll quit someday before that happens, etc."
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Hindsight says roughly 30 years of two packs a day were not, in fact, worth the heart attack and aggravating a heap of other health conditions.
Getting strapped to a hospital gurney and breathing oxygen through a hose for a week is a lousy way to quit.
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so much Pleasure from smoking?!?
explain?
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It felt pretty darn good at the time.
Struggling and gasping to breathe on my own for a few hours didn't.
2/10, do not recommend.
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I threw away my pipes! Wonderful tobacco pipes from France and Germany, along with a selection of fine flavored tobaccos from British tobacconists.
So in addition to giving up the nicotine, I had to give up feeling like a Nobel laureate pondering and gesticulating with my pipe on the back porch. Not fair!
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryan...
I'd signed up as a sponsor for something contingent on the rest of the sponsorships, and today, the last one was signed off on.
Starting in mid-May, a three-stall shower truck will be available in a church parking lot for four hours one day a week...
Oh, heavens no.
Did you consider the alternative ways enclosed showers are going to be used by this population? As a toilet. As a place to use drugs and dispose of the paraphernalia. As a place for sodomy and related misbehavior. Someone is going to have to clean up the mess.
In prison (a very similar population, with much overlap) a lot of assaults and other misbehavior happens in bathrooms and showers, and there are tactical reasons for that which apply to all public bathrooms and showers. I implore you to consider the safety of the persons who will be using this facility (particularly the females and younger persons) and the dignity of whomever is going to have to clean and secure it, before putting it into operation.
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Yes toilets are well known as hangouts for all kinds of degenerates. We had a problem here for years at a couple of the rest stops on the freeway, depravity happening on a daily basis. Constant policing finally got rid of it but for some reason these kind of people are attracted to public bathrooms. Especially the homeless.
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyA smoker typically doesn't say "This habit gives me so much pleasure, if I get cancer it will have been worth it." He says "It won't happen to me. I don't smoke that much. I'm immune. I'll quit someday before that happens, etc."
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Hindsight says roughly 30 years of two packs a day were not, in fact, worth the heart attack and aggravating a heap of other health conditions.
Getting strapped to a hospital gurney and breathing oxygen through a hose for a week is a lousy way to quit.
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so much Pleasure from smoking?!?
explain?
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It felt pretty darn good at the time.
Struggling and gasping to breathe on my own for a few hours didn't.
2/10, do not recommend.
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I threw away my pipes! Wonderful tobacco pipes from France and Germany, along with a selection of fine flavored tobaccos from British tobacconists.
So in addition to giving up the nicotine, I had to give up feeling like a Nobel laureate pondering and gesticulating with my pipe on the back porch. Not fair!
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Maybe you would have been fine.
What little I know is that I wasn't, and it was a generally unpleasant and expensive experience.
I expected not to be able to lift as much. I'm not much surprised at the general loss of appetite.
It's the little trivial details that disproportionately bug me. I couldn't sing along to songs on the radio for a year - just not enough wind. I get heartburn at the slightest provocation now. I'm slowly getting used to the near-constant burps.
I am told that some people used to get particularly aromatic tobaccos, and puff just enough to get the pipe to light - then place it in the stand, and perfume the room. Probably not great for you, but maybe not as bad.
