Cash OCD
They are all $100 bills. But I never pay attention to their position. Heads up, tails up, face normal, face upside down etc, they're all mixed.
Doesn't affect my ability to count them nor stop if I see a wrong denomination mixed in. Neither does it stop my money counter (a big time saver at my level) from doing the same.
Yet it seems whenever I pay cash, even small denominations, the cashier's, etc spend an inordinate amount of time rearranging the bills so they are all the same orientation.
What's with this? Does the whole world have Cash OCD? Is the general public scared they can't tell the difference between a $100 right-side up and tails down? Is there a federal law that bills must be orientated the same?
They don't even look the same as the rest of the denominations. This really has me confounded.
What am I missing here?
humans seek to make order out of chaos they try and make order in their world even on a insignificant
level.
This is just how cashiers are usually trained.
The reason they are trained this way is because it makes the bills easier to count and harder to confuse denominations.
Now obviously guys like us can count and distinguish different bills regardless of denomination or how the bill is oriented, but remember cashiering is usually an entry level & / or low paying job so people cashiering often will not have either the maturity or experience with handling and recognizing large amounts of different types of money.
Plenty of them do, but this is just standard training for cashiers. As a teen I had two entry level cashiering jobs & this was standard training.
Also nowadays bills are more easily distinguishable. Back in the day they were not.
Next time you get an old small faced $100 bill compare it to a $1 bill & see how similar they used to look compared to today,
The training is also a hold over from those days,
Quote: BrickapotamusYou’re not missing anything.
This is just how cashiers are usually trained.
The reason they are trained this way is because it makes the bills easier to count and harder to confuse denominations.
Now obviously guys like us can count and distinguish different bills regardless of denomination or how the bill is oriented, but remember cashiering is usually an entry level & / or low paying job so people cashiering often will not have either the maturity or experience with handling and recognizing large amounts of different types of money.
Plenty of them do, but this is just standard training for cashiers. As a teen I had two entry level cashiering jobs & this was standard training.
Also nowadays bills are more easily distinguishable. Back in the day they were not.
Next time you get an old small faced $100 bill compare it to a $1 bill & see how similar they used to look compared to today,
The training is also a hold over from those days,
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Makes sense. I do orient my bills religiously usually I'm carrying 2-5k and it bugs me if the bills are not in order.
Quote: linksjunkieStraight OCD. I’m retired but do a little part time bartending. My club manager is completely freaked if dollars aren’t put in drawer correctly.
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Amen. (In my experience) It's not usually the cashier who is OCD, but their manager.
I have met people who change the orientation of their bills every 10 notes. They seem to think it makes them faster to count off.
My wife is the opposite - her cash is a mess of different style and orientation bills. It drives me nuts :)
I keep big bills on the outside with denominations getting smaller and smaller as you go so all the singles are in the center. (Fifties and smaller. I always keep hundreds in a separate stack).
So at a convenience store I pull out a wad and peel a twenty off the top or have to unfold it to remove a single or a five.
But I notice a lot of people do it backwards. They keep the singles on the outside and their biggest bills on the inside.
I get so annoyed especially when my workers return with cash. My first instinct seeing them hand me a wad with singles visible is they had an extremely bad return. It's not till I unfold the wad I can see if we even did well or not.
I also keep my hundreds separate even if it's only a single hundred dollar bill. So I don't pull out hundreds in public unless about to use them.
My Cash OCD
Smaller bills on top, in order down to the largest, like this.
I sometimes do it with 100’s otherwise don’t, but was asked by someone once if I worked at a bank when they noticed they were all bank faced.
Quote: DieterQuote: linksjunkieStraight OCD. I’m retired but do a little part time bartending. My club manager is completely freaked if dollars aren’t put in drawer correctly.
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Amen. (In my experience) It's not usually the cashier who is OCD, but their manager.
I have met people who change the orientation of their bills every 10 notes. They seem to think it makes them faster to count off.
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When gambling, I'd keep every fifth twenty backwards. I'd often pull a twenty or two out of my pocket and this helped me keep track.
Banks want all the bills facing the same direction for a few reasons:
Efficiency: It is easier and faster for bank tellers and other employees to count and process money when all the bills are facing the same direction. This is because they can quickly visually scan the bills to verify the denomination and quantity of each bundle.
Accuracy: When all the bills are facing the same direction, it is less likely that bills will be miscounted or that counterfeit bills will be missed. This is because it is easier to spot errors and discrepancies when all the bills are aligned.
Security: Having all the bills facing the same direction makes it more difficult for criminals to steal money from banks. This is because it is easier for bank employees to detect and report suspicious activity when all the bills are aligned.
This apparently all started decades ago when the Federal Reserve
required all money to be facing the same direction when submitted by a bank.
My bank used to do this for withdrawals/cash back. However, all the tellers now have money counters that distribute the bills. They come out every which-way now. The tellers don't even count the bills out any more. The machine just gives them a wad of bills, which they hand to me.Quote: mcallister3200I believe the term is called “bank facing.” All tellers at banks anyways as long as I can remember orient it that way. I don’t know if there’s an argument orientating them one way makes errors less likely, easier for surveillance to see in case of a look back, or if it’s like many things “just because.”
I sometimes do it with 100’s otherwise don’t, but was asked by someone once if I worked at a bank when they noticed they were all bank faced.
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BTW, I am pretty much a cash OCD guy. All my bills have to be right-side up with all the presidents facing the same way. Big bills toward the back of the wallet, small bills to the front. In public, like at the cashier's window, I'll usually put the bills away quickly, even if it means having them in the wrong order or orientation. I'd rather not hold up the line, and I want to get my cash out of sight as soon as possible. But when I get back to the room, I will orient them properly.
Quote: EvenBobWhen I had the bar I always made my bartenders put all the bills president side up facing left because it's easier to count and they're going to correct them at the bank anyway before they count them.
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EvenBob,
What did they do with the $10's and $100's? ;-)
Dog Hand
Quote: DogHandQuote: EvenBobWhen I had the bar I always made my bartenders put all the bills president side up facing left because it's easier to count and they're going to correct them at the bank anyway before they count them.
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EvenBob,
What did they do with the $10's and $100's? ;-)
Dog Hand
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In my clubs, bartenders didn't accept anything more than $20. Hundreds had to be approved by a manager, as did the occasional $50.
Quote: darkozI'm a cash money guy obviously due to my AP. I often have ten grand "Knots" (a hood term for a tied up, money clipped wad of cash).
They are all $100 bills. But I never pay attention to their position. Heads up, tails up, face normal, face upside down etc, they're all mixed.
Doesn't affect my ability to count them nor stop if I see a wrong denomination mixed in. Neither does it stop my money counter (a big time saver at my level) from doing the same.
Yet it seems whenever I pay cash, even small denominations, the cashier's, etc spend an inordinate amount of time rearranging the bills so they are all the same orientation.
What's with this? Does the whole world have Cash OCD? Is the general public scared they can't tell the difference between a $100 right-side up and tails down? Is there a federal law that bills must be orientated the same?
They don't even look the same as the rest of the denominations. This really has me confounded.
What am I missing here?
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Back in my grocery store days, we were trained to make change this way just because people like it. Of course, they didn't necessarily see us go to the effort to do so as we would reorient incoming bills to the register the same way. Some also claim that they are easier to count out of the drawer (when you're doing your till at the end of the night or before break, for example), and it might be true for them, but my experience is it doesn't make a difference.
For my wallet, I really don't care how the bills are facing, but I always have the highest denominations to my right as I am holding my wallet and then smaller denominations more inner.
Quote: billryanI keep a $100 bill folded up in my wallet, but otherwise don't keep my money in it. I'm not sure why, but I've always carried money in my front pockets.
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I do the same thing, but only because I put my wallet in my left hip pocket.
\\Quote: DogHandQuote: EvenBobWhen I had the bar I always made my bartenders put all the bills president side up facing left because it's easier to count and they're going to correct them at the bank anyway before they count them.
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EvenBob,
What did they do with the $10's and $100's? ;-)
Dog Hand
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Like most small businesses anytime you get a bill larger than a 20 you put it underneath the cash drawer.
Quote: Mission146Quote: billryanI keep a $100 bill folded up in my wallet, but otherwise don't keep my money in it. I'm not sure why, but I've always carried money in my front pockets.
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I do the same thing, but only because I put my wallet in my left hip pocket.
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Dangit, one of us has to quit copying the other.
I suppose on days when you're carrying two wallets, the second goes in the right rear pocket?
Quote: EvenBob\\Quote: DogHandQuote: EvenBobWhen I had the bar I always made my bartenders put all the bills president side up facing left because it's easier to count and they're going to correct them at the bank anyway before they count them.
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EvenBob,
What did they do with the $10's and $100's? ;-)
Dog Hand
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Like most small businesses anytime you get a bill larger than a 20 you put it underneath the cash drawer.
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I don't think EB even got the joke.
Or EB thinks 10's and 100's are "presidents"
Quote: TigerWuI don't understand how people put their wallets in their back pockets. How do you sit?? It's so uncomfortable.
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The trick is to keep a very thin wallet. Years ago, a chiropractor warned me of what a thick wallet does when you sit on it all day. I prune my wallet every few months and am amazed at what is in it.
Quote: TigerWuI don't understand how people put their wallets in their back pockets. How do you sit?? It's so uncomfortable.
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Pictured (L-R): Hip Wallet, Butt Wallet
The back-pocket wallet is much thinner, because it doesn't fold the materials into as many layers. If I happen to be wearing a jacket with an inside pocket, the wallet goes there instead.
It's "just" players cards, ID, TITO's and cash.
The hip wallet has got some EDC tools, payment cards, insurance cards, and a whole bunch of other this and that shoved in. It is too thick for me to carry comfortably in a back pocket.
I'm finding the cash I keep in my gambling wallet gets crumpled up easily and the table games dealers don't appreciate bills that don't lay down flat. I don't know what they expect. Does everybody keep a wad roll in their pocket and never use a wallet? Well, If I win $5,000 in hundreds, I can fit it in my RFID phone carry bag.
I keep a thick rubber band around my wallet so nothing falls out. I don't expect my wallet to hold more than 20 bills, but I haven't counted lately. Because of pickpockets, I keep my wallet in my front pocket or in my zip up coat pocket. I don't think sitting on my wallet is helpful at all, and probably couldn't do it for long.
Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBob\\Quote: DogHandQuote: EvenBobWhen I had the bar I always made my bartenders put all the bills president side up facing left because it's easier to count and they're going to correct them at the bank anyway before they count them.
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EvenBob,
What did they do with the $10's and $100's? ;-)
Dog Hand
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Like most small businesses anytime you get a bill larger than a 20 you put it underneath the cash drawer.
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I don't think EB even got the joke.
Or EB thinks 10's and 100's are "presidents"
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The people on the bills are referred to generally as presidents whether they are or they're not. Ask 10 people on the street probably 8 out of 10 will say they're all presidents because they don't know the difference.
“recent survey suggest that about 71 percent of Americans are fairly certain that Alexander Hamilton is among our nation’s past presidents,” 65% thought Benjamin Franklin was an ex-president
Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBob\\Quote: DogHandQuote: EvenBobWhen I had the bar I always made my bartenders put all the bills president side up facing left because it's easier to count and they're going to correct them at the bank anyway before they count them.
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EvenBob,
What did they do with the $10's and $100's? ;-)
Dog Hand
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Like most small businesses anytime you get a bill larger than a 20 you put it underneath the cash drawer.
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I don't think EB even got the joke.
Or EB thinks 10's and 100's are "presidents"
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The people on the bills are referred to generally as presidents whether they are or they're not. Ask 10 people on the street probably 8 out of 10 will say they're all presidents because they don't know the difference.
“recent survey suggest that about 71 percent of Americans are fairly certain that Alexander Hamilton is among our nation’s past presidents,” 65% thought Benjamin Franklin was an ex-president
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I get that.
But Doghand .made a joke referring to that and you didn't get that.
$:o(
Also, the notes have a transparent part to encourage the OCD. If they are not aligned, you can't see through the stack.
Personally, I stack them the same orientation, with the smaller fives at the top, then the tens, then the bigger twenties. Hardly anybody uses 50s. They get folded loosely by my wallet.
Quote: DieterQuote: Mission146Quote: billryanI keep a $100 bill folded up in my wallet, but otherwise don't keep my money in it. I'm not sure why, but I've always carried money in my front pockets.
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I do the same thing, but only because I put my wallet in my left hip pocket.
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Dangit, one of us has to quit copying the other.
I suppose on days when you're carrying two wallets, the second goes in the right rear pocket?
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I’ve never carried two wallets. Even when I’ve had a metric crap ton of cash on me, I’ve just shoved it in and closed the wallet as far as it’ll close. I’m kind of an inventory minimalist, so I wouldn’t consider myself using a second wallet frequently enough to ever justify owning more than one.
I guess I carry a "hip wallet" based on the pictures above. However, I carry it in my back pocket. Fortunately for me, my butt is wide enough that the back pocket of my jeans is close enough to my hip that I can sit comfortably without any of my body weight resting on the wallet.Quote: DieterQuote: TigerWuI don't understand how people put their wallets in their back pockets. How do you sit?? It's so uncomfortable.
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Pictured (L-R): Hip Wallet, Butt Wallet
The back-pocket wallet is much thinner, because it doesn't fold the materials into as many layers. If I happen to be wearing a jacket with an inside pocket, the wallet goes there instead.
It's "just" players cards, ID, TITO's and cash.
The hip wallet has got some EDC tools, payment cards, insurance cards, and a whole bunch of other this and that shoved in. It is too thick for me to carry comfortably in a back pocket.
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Quote: Mission146I’ve never carried two wallets. Even when I’ve had a metric crap ton of cash on me, I’ve just shoved it in and closed the wallet as far as it’ll close. I’m kind of an inventory minimalist, so I wouldn’t consider myself using a second wallet frequently enough to ever justify owning more than one.
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Fair enough. I find it helpful for keeping a separation between casino money and mundane money.
I'm sure some people have considered having a 'surrender wallet'.
I can usually only cram about $3000 in a folder-upper, but can usually manage $12k or so in a flat wallet before it gets unwieldy. With more than that, I generally believe alternate cash handling devices are in order.
20's when gambling???Quote: billryanWhen gambling, I'd keep every fifth twenty backwards. I'd often pull a twenty or two out of my pocket and this helped me keep track.
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all those 20's would almost burst the seams of my cheap wallet.
When gambling, I use a paperclip for ten 100's if i ever make that much profit
Quote: 100xOdds20's when gambling???Quote: billryanWhen gambling, I'd keep every fifth twenty backwards. I'd often pull a twenty or two out of my pocket and this helped me keep track.
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all those 20's would almost burst the seams of my cheap wallet.
When gambling, I use a paperclip for ten 100's if i ever make that much profit
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I'm not a big gambler. I used to enjoy playing BJ for hours on end but not anymore.
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But I notice a lot of people do it backwards. They keep the singles on the outside and their biggest bills on the inside.
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This is how I was taught to keep mixed bills held together by a rubber band or money clip by my father. The logic I was given was that it hides the larger bills from prying eyes.
I made the switch from a billfold to a Ridge brand "wallets" that is more of a card holder with a money clip on the side. To put money in the clip, in my experience, you have to fold it twice which makes carrying larger amounts of bills tricky since it gets thick quickly. I have carried a total of $2,000 comprised of a mixture of $20s, $50s and $100s in the clip, and while I would not have called it the most comfortable thing ever, it was workable. If I was to carry anymore in cash I would use a separate money clip and only fold the cash once.
