Evenbob's Roulette Thread
February 20th, 2025 at 11:44:13 AM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozWith modern print on demand, it doesn't take a $500 price tag to do a 50 page hardcover printing of just 10 copies to cover costs.
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If you want a piece of crap book, that looks like a piece of crap, that's probably true. This is not going to be a piece of crap.
"The cost of self-publishing a book varies greatly, ranging from under $1,000 to over $5,000."
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Quite obviously you have never used print on demand. This isn't the 2000's. This is 20 years old tech and it looks perfectly fine.
Most major publishers now use it. That's why you can order a brand new copy of an old book.
In fact you are more likely to get a piece of crap doing it the old fashioned way. You are going to order from a professional printer ten copies while they are dealing with major houses ordering thousands. Guess who is getting all their professional attention. Won't surprise me if your book winds up with poor binding and a crappy dust jacket.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
February 20th, 2025 at 11:47:06 AM
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Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozWith modern print on demand, it doesn't take a $500 price tag to do a 50 page hardcover printing of just 10 copies to cover costs.
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If you want a piece of crap book, that looks like a piece of crap, that's probably true. This is not going to be a piece of crap.
"The cost of self-publishing a book varies greatly, ranging from under $1,000 to over $5,000."
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Quite obviously you have never used print on demand. This isn't the 2000's. This is 20 years old tech and it looks perfectly fine.
Most major publishers now use it. That's why you can order a brand new copy of an old book.
In fact you are more likely to get a piece of crap doing it the old fashioned way. You are going to order from a professional printer ten copies while they are dealing with major houses ordering thousands. Guess who is getting all their professional attention. Won't surprise me if your book winds up with poor binding and a crappy dust jacket.
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But you'll never know because you're not getting one and you'll never see one. Quit staying up late at night worrying about it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 20th, 2025 at 11:50:24 AM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozWith modern print on demand, it doesn't take a $500 price tag to do a 50 page hardcover printing of just 10 copies to cover costs.
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If you want a piece of crap book, that looks like a piece of crap, that's probably true. This is not going to be a piece of crap.
"The cost of self-publishing a book varies greatly, ranging from under $1,000 to over $5,000."
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I think you should look at one of the thesis on demand printers, at least to compare their service offerings.
Many are quite good, and reasonably priced for a graduate student's budget.
May the cards fall in your favor.
February 20th, 2025 at 12:31:35 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozWith modern print on demand, it doesn't take a $500 price tag to do a 50 page hardcover printing of just 10 copies to cover costs.
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If you want a piece of crap book, that looks like a piece of crap, that's probably true. This is not going to be a piece of crap.
"The cost of self-publishing a book varies greatly, ranging from under $1,000 to over $5,000."
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Quite obviously you have never used print on demand. This isn't the 2000's. This is 20 years old tech and it looks perfectly fine.
Most major publishers now use it. That's why you can order a brand new copy of an old book.
In fact you are more likely to get a piece of crap doing it the old fashioned way. You are going to order from a professional printer ten copies while they are dealing with major houses ordering thousands. Guess who is getting all their professional attention. Won't surprise me if your book winds up with poor binding and a crappy dust jacket.
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But you'll never know because you're not getting one and you'll never see one. Quit staying up late at night worrying about it.
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I wouldn't pay $2.50 for one of your copies.
But I am sure one of the ten copies will pop up on eBay. Especially if people read it and realize they want their money back.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
February 20th, 2025 at 12:38:16 PM
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I can already imagine it flying off the bookshelves everywhere.
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February 20th, 2025 at 1:24:21 PM
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Quote: EvenBobI'm writing a book on how to beat roulette....
I'll be 76 this year and I want to leave something as a sort of legacy, because I believe I've really accomplished something with roulette.
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That's a great bit of humor, there. The connotations and implications of who would want to buy it, who you would allow to buy it are beyond my imagination. One of the best practical jokes I've ever heard. If you do it, you'll certainly die laughing.
I'll keep an eye out for the bootleg PDF, right after I finish making sense of that book I found in a hotel room, bedside drawer.
Just as a suggestion. You can get self designed jigsaws. Why not present your method pictorially as a 50 piece jigsaw and take 1 different piece from each box and sell to 51 people. 51 People who never get to know eachother.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
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A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
February 20th, 2025 at 1:50:38 PM
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Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozWith modern print on demand, it doesn't take a $500 price tag to do a 50 page hardcover printing of just 10 copies to cover costs.
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If you want a piece of crap book, that looks like a piece of crap, that's probably true. This is not going to be a piece of crap.
"The cost of self-publishing a book varies greatly, ranging from under $1,000 to over $5,000."
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I think you should look at one of the thesis on demand printers, at least to compare their service offerings.
Many are quite good, and reasonably priced for a graduate student's budget.
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FedEx Kinkos does nice work.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
February 20th, 2025 at 2:18:13 PM
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I wouldn't pay $2.50 for one of your copies.
But I am sure one of the ten copies will pop up on eBay. Especially if people read it and realize they want their money back.
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I forgot to mention, it's going to be endorsed by several known people who tried it and verified that it works. The endorsements will be in the front of the book. It's not going to be a pig in a poke what would be the point of that.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 20th, 2025 at 2:19:49 PM
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Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozWith modern print on demand, it doesn't take a $500 price tag to do a 50 page hardcover printing of just 10 copies to cover costs.
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If you want a piece of crap book, that looks like a piece of crap, that's probably true. This is not going to be a piece of crap.
"The cost of self-publishing a book varies greatly, ranging from under $1,000 to over $5,000."
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I think you should look at one of the thesis on demand printers, at least to compare their service offerings.
Many are quite good, and reasonably priced for a graduate student's budget.
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I don't care about having it cheaply done, I want it to be a collectible that's why I'm only doing 10 of them. It might even have leather covers, I haven't decided. I know what a good book looks like I used to buy and sell them.
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"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 20th, 2025 at 2:20:25 PM
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Quote: rxwineI can already imagine it flying off the bookshelves everywhere.
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Can you read? 10 copies it's not going to be for sale anywhere in public.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 20th, 2025 at 2:22:19 PM
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Quote: OnceDearQuote: EvenBobI'm writing a book on how to beat roulette....
I'll be 76 this year and I want to leave something as a sort of legacy, because I believe I've really accomplished something with roulette.
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That's a great bit of humor, there. The connotations and implications of who would want to buy it, who you would allow to buy it are beyond my imagination. One of the best practical jokes I've ever heard. If you do it, you'll certainly die laughing.
I'll keep an eye out for the bootleg PDF, right after I finish making sense of that book I found in a hotel room, bedside drawer.
Just as a suggestion. You can get self designed jigsaws. Why not present your method pictorially as a 50 piece jigsaw and take 1 different piece from each box and sell to 51 people. 51 People who never get to know eachother.
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I fell asleep halfway through your post, maybe I'll finish it some other time. Nah, I'll never have time.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 20th, 2025 at 3:14:51 PM
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Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: DieterQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozWith modern print on demand, it doesn't take a $500 price tag to do a 50 page hardcover printing of just 10 copies to cover costs.
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If you want a piece of crap book, that looks like a piece of crap, that's probably true. This is not going to be a piece of crap.
"The cost of self-publishing a book varies greatly, ranging from under $1,000 to over $5,000."
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I think you should look at one of the thesis on demand printers, at least to compare their service offerings.
Many are quite good, and reasonably priced for a graduate student's budget.
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FedEx Kinkos does nice work.
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I've been unimpressed with their binding options.
May the cards fall in your favor.
February 20th, 2025 at 3:18:14 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: DieterQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozWith modern print on demand, it doesn't take a $500 price tag to do a 50 page hardcover printing of just 10 copies to cover costs.
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If you want a piece of crap book, that looks like a piece of crap, that's probably true. This is not going to be a piece of crap.
"The cost of self-publishing a book varies greatly, ranging from under $1,000 to over $5,000."
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I think you should look at one of the thesis on demand printers, at least to compare their service offerings.
Many are quite good, and reasonably priced for a graduate student's budget.
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I don't care about having it cheaply done, I want it to be a collectible that's why I'm only doing 10 of them. You might even have a leather covers, I haven't decided. I know what a good book looks like I used to buy and sell them.
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There is a difference between cheap and inexpensive.
Theses are generally printed at about 10 copies, usually with pretty nice collectible gift grade covers and bindings.
May the cards fall in your favor.
February 20th, 2025 at 4:42:18 PM
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Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobQuote: DieterQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozWith modern print on demand, it doesn't take a $500 price tag to do a 50 page hardcover printing of just 10 copies to cover costs.
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If you want a piece of crap book, that looks like a piece of crap, that's probably true. This is not going to be a piece of crap.
"The cost of self-publishing a book varies greatly, ranging from under $1,000 to over $5,000."
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I think you should look at one of the thesis on demand printers, at least to compare their service offerings.
Many are quite good, and reasonably priced for a graduate student's budget.
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I don't care about having it cheaply done, I want it to be a collectible that's why I'm only doing 10 of them. You might even have a leather covers, I haven't decided. I know what a good book looks like I used to buy and sell them.
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There is a difference between cheap and inexpensive.
Theses are generally printed at about 10 copies, usually with pretty nice collectible gift grade covers and bindings.
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Everybody seems hung up on how the book's going to be printed, seriously, who cares. It isn't even written yet, I haven't even done the outline yet. Writing a book is very time consuming, printing it is the last thing on my mind. Cross that bridge when I come to it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 20th, 2025 at 5:12:15 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: rxwineI can already imagine it flying off the bookshelves everywhere.
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Can you read? 10 copies it's not going to be for sale anywhere in public.
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So in theory you could just say you wrote this book with endorsements and no one would be able to fact check you?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
February 20th, 2025 at 5:32:26 PM
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Quote: EvenBobI forgot to mention, it's going to be endorsed by several known people who tried it and verified that it works. The endorsements will be in the front of the book. It's not going to be a pig in a poke what would be the point of that.
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Er, if you are going to show your method to "several known people," how hard would it be to find one that knows how to program an Excel spreadsheet, so you can work on your "I can see six tables at once, so at least one will be playable at any given moment, but I can't crunch the numbers fast enough" problem?
February 20th, 2025 at 5:42:27 PM
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Quote: ThatDonGuyQuote: EvenBobI forgot to mention, it's going to be endorsed by several known people who tried it and verified that it works. The endorsements will be in the front of the book. It's not going to be a pig in a poke what would be the point of that.
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Er, if you are going to show your method to "several known people," how hard would it be to find one that knows how to program an Excel spreadsheet, so you can work on your "I can see six tables at once, so at least one will be playable at any given moment, but I can't crunch the numbers fast enough" problem?
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How are they even going to endorse the book without seeing it? Or are they the ten people who are buying the book?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
February 20th, 2025 at 6:01:06 PM
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Quote: darkozQuote: ThatDonGuyQuote: EvenBobI forgot to mention, it's going to be endorsed by several known people who tried it and verified that it works. The endorsements will be in the front of the book. It's not going to be a pig in a poke what would be the point of that.
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Er, if you are going to show your method to "several known people," how hard would it be to find one that knows how to program an Excel spreadsheet, so you can work on your "I can see six tables at once, so at least one will be playable at any given moment, but I can't crunch the numbers fast enough" problem?
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How are they even going to endorse the book without seeing it? Or are they the ten people who are buying the book?
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Read what you just wrote and ask why anybody would reply to it. It's like somebody asking how will you know when you get to San Francisco if you never go there.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 20th, 2025 at 6:52:09 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: ThatDonGuyQuote: EvenBobI forgot to mention, it's going to be endorsed by several known people who tried it and verified that it works. The endorsements will be in the front of the book. It's not going to be a pig in a poke what would be the point of that.
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Er, if you are going to show your method to "several known people," how hard would it be to find one that knows how to program an Excel spreadsheet, so you can work on your "I can see six tables at once, so at least one will be playable at any given moment, but I can't crunch the numbers fast enough" problem?
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How are they even going to endorse the book without seeing it? Or are they the ten people who are buying the book?
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Read what you just wrote and ask why anybody would reply to it. It's like somebody asking how will you know when you get to San Francisco if you never go there.
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Right.
So in other words no one will be able to confirm you even wrote such a book. Just like no one can confirm you have a roulette system.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
February 20th, 2025 at 7:16:00 PM
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Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: ThatDonGuyQuote: EvenBobI forgot to mention, it's going to be endorsed by several known people who tried it and verified that it works. The endorsements will be in the front of the book. It's not going to be a pig in a poke what would be the point of that.
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Er, if you are going to show your method to "several known people," how hard would it be to find one that knows how to program an Excel spreadsheet, so you can work on your "I can see six tables at once, so at least one will be playable at any given moment, but I can't crunch the numbers fast enough" problem?
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How are they even going to endorse the book without seeing it? Or are they the ten people who are buying the book?
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Read what you just wrote and ask why anybody would reply to it. It's like somebody asking how will you know when you get to San Francisco if you never go there.
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Right.
So in other words no one will be able to confirm you even wrote such a book. Just like no one can confirm you have a roulette system.
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Good God. Have you never read a book in your life? You send the manuscript to somebody, they read it, they send you an endorsement, and you include it in the front of the book. I thought you were an author, you would think you know how these things work. How do you think endorsements to get in the front of books, magic? Good grief..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 20th, 2025 at 8:18:48 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: ThatDonGuyQuote: EvenBobI forgot to mention, it's going to be endorsed by several known people who tried it and verified that it works. The endorsements will be in the front of the book. It's not going to be a pig in a poke what would be the point of that.
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Er, if you are going to show your method to "several known people," how hard would it be to find one that knows how to program an Excel spreadsheet, so you can work on your "I can see six tables at once, so at least one will be playable at any given moment, but I can't crunch the numbers fast enough" problem?
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How are they even going to endorse the book without seeing it? Or are they the ten people who are buying the book?
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Read what you just wrote and ask why anybody would reply to it. It's like somebody asking how will you know when you get to San Francisco if you never go there.
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Right.
So in other words no one will be able to confirm you even wrote such a book. Just like no one can confirm you have a roulette system.
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Good God. Have you never read a book in your life? You send the manuscript to somebody, they read it, they send you an endorsement, and you include it in the front of the book. I thought you were an author, you would think you know how these things work. How do you think endorsements to get in the front of books, magic? Good grief..
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I know exactly how it works
But you said only ten copies would be made available.
So now more than ten copies will be made available? The manuscript "proofs" will be out there as well?
Or are the ones reading the proofs the ones you plan to sell your ten copies to?
You can't have it both ways. Only ten copies out there meanwhile a bunch of copies sent as proofs as well.
(And you plan on sending the proofs as digital copies? Good luck with that LMAO). It will be on the black market before you can typeset the regular copies
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
February 20th, 2025 at 9:46:25 PM
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Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: ThatDonGuyQuote: EvenBobI forgot to mention, it's going to be endorsed by several known people who tried it and verified that it works. The endorsements will be in the front of the book. It's not going to be a pig in a poke what would be the point of that.
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Er, if you are going to show your method to "several known people," how hard would it be to find one that knows how to program an Excel spreadsheet, so you can work on your "I can see six tables at once, so at least one will be playable at any given moment, but I can't crunch the numbers fast enough" problem?
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How are they even going to endorse the book without seeing it? Or are they the ten people who are buying the book?
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Read what you just wrote and ask why anybody would reply to it. It's like somebody asking how will you know when you get to San Francisco if you never go there.
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Right.
So in other words no one will be able to confirm you even wrote such a book. Just like no one can confirm you have a roulette system.
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Good God. Have you never read a book in your life? You send the manuscript to somebody, they read it, they send you an endorsement, and you include it in the front of the book. I thought you were an author, you would think you know how these things work. How do you think endorsements to get in the front of books, magic? Good grief..
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I know exactly how it works
But you said only ten copies would be made available.
So now more than ten copies will be made available? The manuscript "proofs" will be out there as well?
Or are the ones reading the proofs the ones you plan to sell your ten copies to?
You can't have it both ways. Only ten copies out there meanwhile a bunch of copies sent as proofs as well.
(And you plan on sending the proofs as digital copies? Good luck with that LMAO). It will be on the black market before you can typeset the regular copies
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Tell you what sport. When the outline is done, and the book is written, and I'm getting ready to have it published, I'll send you all the details so you'll know exactly what's going on because you seem to be losing sleep over this. In the meantime here's some advice. Don't worry about it, it's being handled.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 20th, 2025 at 10:07:46 PM
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Er, if you are going to show your method to "several known people," how hard would it be to find one that knows how to program an Excel spreadsheet, so you can work on your "I can see six tables at once, so at least one will be playable at any given moment, but I can't crunch the numbers fast enough" problem?
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Lol. Says the guy who admits he hasn't written anything yet
Good luck with your intended book.
How are they even going to endorse the book without seeing it? Or are they the ten people who are buying the book?
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Read what you just wrote and ask why anybody would reply to it. It's like somebody asking how will you know when you get to San Francisco if you never go there.
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Right.
So in other words no one will be able to confirm you even wrote such a book. Just like no one can confirm you have a roulette system.
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Good God. Have you never read a book in your life? You send the manuscript to somebody, they read it, they send you an endorsement, and you include it in the front of the book. I thought you were an author, you would think you know how these things work. How do you think endorsements to get in the front of books, magic? Good grief..
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I know exactly how it works
But you said only ten copies would be made available.
So now more than ten copies will be made available? The manuscript "proofs" will be out there as well?
Or are the ones reading the proofs the ones you plan to sell your ten copies to?
You can't have it both ways. Only ten copies out there meanwhile a bunch of copies sent as proofs as well.
(And you plan on sending the proofs as digital copies? Good luck with that LMAO). It will be on the black market before you can typeset the regular copies
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Tell you what sport. When the outline is done, and the book is written, and I'm getting ready to have it published, I'll send you all the details so you'll know exactly what's going on because you seem to be losing sleep over this. In the meantime here's some advice. Don't worry about it, it's being handled.
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Says the guy who admits he hasn't even written the outline yet
Good luck on your intended book
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
February 20th, 2025 at 10:59:24 PM
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Er, if you are going to show your method to "several known people," how hard would it be to find one that knows how to program an Excel spreadsheet, so you can work on your "I can see six tables at once, so at least one will be playable at any given moment, but I can't crunch the numbers fast enough" problem?
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Lol. Says the guy who admits he hasn't written anything yet
Good luck with your intended book.
How are they even going to endorse the book without seeing it? Or are they the ten people who are buying the book?
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Read what you just wrote and ask why anybody would reply to it. It's like somebody asking how will you know when you get to San Francisco if you never go there.
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Right.
So in other words no one will be able to confirm you even wrote such a book. Just like no one can confirm you have a roulette system.
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Good God. Have you never read a book in your life? You send the manuscript to somebody, they read it, they send you an endorsement, and you include it in the front of the book. I thought you were an author, you would think you know how these things work. How do you think endorsements to get in the front of books, magic? Good grief..
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I know exactly how it works
But you said only ten copies would be made available.
So now more than ten copies will be made available? The manuscript "proofs" will be out there as well?
Or are the ones reading the proofs the ones you plan to sell your ten copies to?
You can't have it both ways. Only ten copies out there meanwhile a bunch of copies sent as proofs as well.
(And you plan on sending the proofs as digital copies? Good luck with that LMAO). It will be on the black market before you can typeset the regular copies
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Tell you what sport. When the outline is done, and the book is written, and I'm getting ready to have it published, I'll send you all the details so you'll know exactly what's going on because you seem to be losing sleep over this. In the meantime here's some advice. Don't worry about it, it's being handled.
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Says the guy who admits he hasn't even written the outline yet
Good luck on your intended book
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I mentioned about five times in my posts up to now that I had not written the outline yet. Do you even read any of these posts? I'm always explaining stuff that I already said. I said I'm going to write a book, I'm doing the outline and then the writing and then the publishing. Everybody immediately jumps to the publishing. Who cares, that's way down the line, that's the last thing that's on my mind now.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 21st, 2025 at 8:30:39 AM
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As EB would tell you, it doesn’t matter what any of us forum members think about his endeavor, he will write this book for himself. Good for him! I just hope he gives Mike a copy pro bono for hosting EB and his roulette jabber all these years.
I’m trying to imagine though who would pay $500 for the book? My only guess here would be DarkOz. He was willing to fork over a multiple of that to have Mike watch MDawg play baccarat. Might have his interest piqued enough to invest just to scoff at EB? I think I’d pay up to $5. We are going to have a ‘library’ in the new house.
I’m trying to imagine though who would pay $500 for the book? My only guess here would be DarkOz. He was willing to fork over a multiple of that to have Mike watch MDawg play baccarat. Might have his interest piqued enough to invest just to scoff at EB? I think I’d pay up to $5. We are going to have a ‘library’ in the new house.
February 21st, 2025 at 9:32:59 AM
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Quote: SOOPOOAs EB would tell you, it doesn’t matter what any of us forum members think about his endeavor, he will write this book for himself. Good for him! I just hope he gives Mike a copy pro bono for hosting EB and his roulette jabber all these years.
I’m trying to imagine though who would pay $500 for the book? My only guess here would be DarkOz. He was willing to fork over a multiple of that to have Mike watch MDawg play baccarat. Might have his interest piqued enough to invest just to scoff at EB? I think I’d pay up to $5. We are going to have a ‘library’ in the new house.
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Definitely not me. I actually got some valuable information from the MDawg situation.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
February 21st, 2025 at 10:41:17 AM
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\]Quote: SOOPOOAs EB would tell you, it doesn’t matter what any of us forum members think about his endeavor, he will write this book for himself. Good for him! I just hope he gives Mike a copy pro bono for hosting EB and his roulette jabber all these years.
I’m trying to imagine though who would pay $500 for the book? My only guess here would be DarkOz. He was willing to fork over a multiple of that to have Mike watch MDawg play baccarat. Might have his interest piqued enough to invest just to scoff at EB? I think I’d pay up to $5. We are going to have a ‘library’ in the new house.
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Let me put your mind at ease. If these books were $10,000 each and you wanted to buy five of them I wouldn't sell them to you.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 21st, 2025 at 11:31:36 AM
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Quote: EvenBob\]Quote: SOOPOOAs EB would tell you, it doesn’t matter what any of us forum members think about his endeavor, he will write this book for himself. Good for him! I just hope he gives Mike a copy pro bono for hosting EB and his roulette jabber all these years.
I’m trying to imagine though who would pay $500 for the book? My only guess here would be DarkOz. He was willing to fork over a multiple of that to have Mike watch MDawg play baccarat. Might have his interest piqued enough to invest just to scoff at EB? I think I’d pay up to $5. We are going to have a ‘library’ in the new house.
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Let me put your mind at ease. If these books were $10,000 each and you wanted to buy five of them I wouldn't sell them to you.
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So is the Wizard going to be one of your trusted endorsements? And if not, why is that?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
February 21st, 2025 at 12:02:34 PM
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Has anyone noticed that the questions and answers about the book in this forum are probably longer than the actual book will be.
LOL
LOL
February 21st, 2025 at 1:28:32 PM
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\]Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBob\]Quote: SOOPOOAs EB would tell you, it doesn’t matter what any of us forum members think about his endeavor, he will write this book for himself. Good for him! I just hope he gives Mike a copy pro bono for hosting EB and his roulette jabber all these years.
I’m trying to imagine though who would pay $500 for the book? My only guess here would be DarkOz. He was willing to fork over a multiple of that to have Mike watch MDawg play baccarat. Might have his interest piqued enough to invest just to scoff at EB? I think I’d pay up to $5. We are going to have a ‘library’ in the new house.
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Let me put your mind at ease. If these books were $10,000 each and you wanted to buy five of them I wouldn't sell them to you.
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So is the Wizard going to be one of your trusted endorsements? And if not, why is that?
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We are not allowed to discuss on the Forum what we say in private messages. So I'm not going to tell you what was said.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 21st, 2025 at 2:20:39 PM
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Casino Quest posted a "strategy from an Italian that's 400 years old!" and a couple commentators pointed out that this particular strategy(sort of a reverse martingale, you bet bigger when you win and less when you lose) is actually created by an Italian guy in the 1980s for stock market day trading. Turns out they have the same/similar first and last names, lol.
The masaniello is a fairly interesting strategy even for 40 instead of 400 years old. Wizard you up for a masaniello strategy page like you've done for the others in this vein?
The masaniello is a fairly interesting strategy even for 40 instead of 400 years old. Wizard you up for a masaniello strategy page like you've done for the others in this vein?
February 21st, 2025 at 3:16:05 PM
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Quote: EvenBob\]Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBob\]Quote: SOOPOOAs EB would tell you, it doesn’t matter what any of us forum members think about his endeavor, he will write this book for himself. Good for him! I just hope he gives Mike a copy pro bono for hosting EB and his roulette jabber all these years.
I’m trying to imagine though who would pay $500 for the book? My only guess here would be DarkOz. He was willing to fork over a multiple of that to have Mike watch MDawg play baccarat. Might have his interest piqued enough to invest just to scoff at EB? I think I’d pay up to $5. We are going to have a ‘library’ in the new house.
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Let me put your mind at ease. If these books were $10,000 each and you wanted to buy five of them I wouldn't sell them to you.
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So is the Wizard going to be one of your trusted endorsements? And if not, why is that?
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We are not allowed to discuss on the Forum what we say in private messages. So I'm not going to tell you what was said.
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What would he say: “This is indeed a book.”
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December 27th, 2025 at 9:32:25 PM
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I've had this ability all my life but until very recently I did not know that it was uncommon. I thought everybody had it.
"In spatial-sequence, or number form synesthesia, numbers,
months of the year, or days of the week elicit precise locations
in space. It is thought to be due to "hyperconnectivity" or
extra cross-wiring between different sensory areas of the brain."
Every number, up to about 100,000 or so, has a very specific place in my mind. Always the same place and when you give me two numbers I can see instantly the space in between those two numbers. The same goes for days of the week or months of the year or years in general.. If I think about the year 535 and the year 1742 I can instantly see the distance in between these years and what that means as far as history goes. It's always been that way so I never thought about it, I never told anybody because I thought everybody did it. I also have an extremely good memory which goes along with synesthesia. I'm starting to realize this has something to do with my ability to beat roulette.
"Number-Form (or Spatial-Sequence) Synesthesia: Seeing
numbers in specific spatial patterns, like a 3D map with each
number having a distinct location in space. People with
synesthesia are often highly intelligent and perform better
on memory tests than those who don't have the condition."
"In spatial-sequence, or number form synesthesia, numbers,
months of the year, or days of the week elicit precise locations
in space. It is thought to be due to "hyperconnectivity" or
extra cross-wiring between different sensory areas of the brain."
Every number, up to about 100,000 or so, has a very specific place in my mind. Always the same place and when you give me two numbers I can see instantly the space in between those two numbers. The same goes for days of the week or months of the year or years in general.. If I think about the year 535 and the year 1742 I can instantly see the distance in between these years and what that means as far as history goes. It's always been that way so I never thought about it, I never told anybody because I thought everybody did it. I also have an extremely good memory which goes along with synesthesia. I'm starting to realize this has something to do with my ability to beat roulette.
"Number-Form (or Spatial-Sequence) Synesthesia: Seeing
numbers in specific spatial patterns, like a 3D map with each
number having a distinct location in space. People with
synesthesia are often highly intelligent and perform better
on memory tests than those who don't have the condition."
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 28th, 2025 at 4:39:55 PM
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"Number-Form (or Spatial-Sequence) Synesthesia: Seeing
numbers in specific spatial patterns, like a 3D map with each
number having a distinct location in space. People with
synesthesia are often highly intelligent and perform better
on memory tests than those who don't have the condition."
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"Synesthesia offers a direct, sensory experience of patterns,
while strong pattern recognition is the cognitive skill to find
them; in synesthetes, these often intertwine, making patterns
more vivid and memorable. Synesthesia can allow for
extreme-levels of pattern recognition."
Okie dokie artichokie, it's all making sense now. From the minute I sat down watching a roulette wheel in 2004 I caught on to it immediately and was winning making virtual bets. That's when this all started. It's because I have spatial sequence synesthesia. There's an amazing amount of information written on this subject including pattern recognition in people who have it. Most synesthetes are just like me, they just assume everybody is like them. The only time I ever asked anybody about it was in college when I asked my math teacher he said he has a similar experience with numbers and dates. So I just assumed everybody did. Apparently if you're aware that you have special sequence synesthesia you can use it in your profession or career. I'm using it to beat roulette, who knew. I can see patterns within patterns and remember them and compare them against future events.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 30th, 2025 at 11:06:45 AM
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Spatial sequence synesthesia (SSS) is a condition where
people involuntarily perceive ordered sequences, like
numbers, months, years, letters, as occupying physical
locations or shapes in space, forming stable mental maps
that can be 2D or 3D, providing cognitive benefits like
better memory and spatial processing for these "spatial
sequencers".
Now that I've discovered that I have this and always have had it how do I work this into the book when such a small number of people in the population have this ability. No wonder I've been having such a hard time explaining things on paper. Nikola Tesla had SSS. He also had a hard time explaining himself.
people involuntarily perceive ordered sequences, like
numbers, months, years, letters, as occupying physical
locations or shapes in space, forming stable mental maps
that can be 2D or 3D, providing cognitive benefits like
better memory and spatial processing for these "spatial
sequencers".
Now that I've discovered that I have this and always have had it how do I work this into the book when such a small number of people in the population have this ability. No wonder I've been having such a hard time explaining things on paper. Nikola Tesla had SSS. He also had a hard time explaining himself.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 31st, 2025 at 4:30:23 AM
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Quote: EvenBobit's all making sense now. From the minute I sat down watching a roulette wheel in 2004 I caught on to it immediately and was winning making virtual bets. That's when this all started. It's because I have spatial sequence synesthesia.
this is the answer from Google's AI bot when I asked "can spatial sequence synesthesia enable a person to win at roulette"
"AI Overview
No, spatial sequence synesthesia (SSS) doesn't give a supernatural edge to win roulette, as the game is fundamentally random, but it might help someone better visualize number patterns on the wheel, though research suggests SSS relates more to visual, not spatial, prediction, and gamblers often think they see patterns where none exist anyway, making any perceived advantage a cognitive bias, not a reliable winning strategy.
What is Spatial Sequence Synesthesia (SSS)?
It's a type of synesthesia where sequences (like numbers, days, or letters) are perceived as occupying specific locations in physical space.
A person might see the numbers 1-38 arranged in a unique, personal map around them.
How it Might Relate to Roulette (But Doesn't Guarantee Wins)
Pattern Recognition: A synesthete might literally see the sequence of numbers on the wheel (or the layout) as a spatial map, potentially noticing visual groupings or clusters that others miss, say sites like study.com.
Visual vs. Spatial: While SSS involves space, studies suggest it's more linked to visual imagery, not necessarily superior spatial reasoning for prediction, say research published by the National Institutes of Health.
Why It Won't Make You a Winner:
Randomness: Roulette is designed to be random; each spin is independent, meaning past results don't predict future ones,
Gambler's Fallacy: People, especially gamblers, often see patterns in random data (like sequences of red/black) that aren't real, which is a known cognitive distortion, notes Time Magazine.
House Edge: The casino always has a built-in advantage, and no strategy, synesthetic or otherwise, can eliminate it,
In essence, SSS provides a unique perception, not a predictive power, and roulette remains a game of chance"
this statement from the bot is not 100% correct:
"House Edge: The casino always has a built-in advantage, and no strategy, synesthetic or otherwise, can eliminate it"
it's well known that an old or biased, defective wheel can lead to the ball landing on certain numbers more often than chance would indicate
also there is visual prediction - being able to predict where that ball will fall off the wheel and betting the numbers close to where the ball will fall off
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the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
December 31st, 2025 at 8:59:04 AM
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Quote: lilredroosterQuote: EvenBobit's all making sense now. From the minute I sat down watching a roulette wheel in 2004 I caught on to it immediately and was winning making virtual bets. That's when this all started. It's because I have spatial sequence synesthesia.
this is the answer from Google's AI bot when I asked "can spatial sequence synesthesia enable a person to win at roulette"
"AI Overview
No, spatial sequence synesthesia (SSS) doesn't give a supernatural edge to win roulette, as the game is fundamentally random, but it might help someone better visualize number patterns on the wheel, though research suggests SSS relates more to visual, not spatial, prediction, and gamblers often think they see patterns where none exist anyway, making any perceived advantage a cognitive bias, not a reliable winning strategy.
What is Spatial Sequence Synesthesia (SSS)?
It's a type of synesthesia where sequences (like numbers, days, or letters) are perceived as occupying specific locations in physical space.
A person might see the numbers 1-38 arranged in a unique, personal map around them.
How it Might Relate to Roulette (But Doesn't Guarantee Wins)
Pattern Recognition: A synesthete might literally see the sequence of numbers on the wheel (or the layout) as a spatial map, potentially noticing visual groupings or clusters that others miss, say sites like study.com.
Visual vs. Spatial: While SSS involves space, studies suggest it's more linked to visual imagery, not necessarily superior spatial reasoning for prediction, say research published by the National Institutes of Health.
Why It Won't Make You a Winner:
Randomness: Roulette is designed to be random; each spin is independent, meaning past results don't predict future ones,
Gambler's Fallacy: People, especially gamblers, often see patterns in random data (like sequences of red/black) that aren't real, which is a known cognitive distortion, notes Time Magazine.
House Edge: The casino always has a built-in advantage, and no strategy, synesthetic or otherwise, can eliminate it,
In essence, SSS provides a unique perception, not a predictive power, and roulette remains a game of chance"
this statement from the bot is not 100% correct:
"House Edge: The casino always has a built-in advantage, and no strategy, synesthetic or otherwise, can eliminate it"
it's well known that an old or biased, defective wheel can lead to the ball landing on certain numbers more often than chance would indicate
also there is visual prediction - being able to predict where that ball will fall off the wheel and betting the numbers close to where the ball will fall off
.
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AI, boiler plate crap. Try reading real info written by real
people. Who said SSS is supernatural, that's just stupid.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 31st, 2025 at 11:23:35 AM
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Quote: bot
it's well known that an old or biased, defective wheel can lead to the ball landing on certain numbers more often than chance would indicate
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Here's what's funny. It wasn't really because the wheels were "old" or somehow "worn out." We won the most money on newer wheels that were just poorly assembled! It wasn't just wear and tear. It was because the leading manufacturer of wheels just assumed that the 00 wheel was a carnival game and that the assembly was "good enough" for distribution. The manufacturer's arrogance and hubris was the deeper cause. And if you look more closely at the wheels on the LV Strip, you see that a new vendor (Cammegh) has stepped in and has replaced most (but not all) of those poorly assembled wheels.
December 31st, 2025 at 12:56:49 PM
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Quote: EvenBobAI, boiler plate crap. Try reading real info written by real
people.
here's some more AI on the subject
I love AI
it's smarter than humans
it has no biases
"Why Synesthesia Cannot "Beat" Roulette
Research on the psychology of roulette often highlights that the game is a series of independent, random events.
Gambler’s Fallacy: NIH-funded research explores the "gambler's fallacy"—the mistaken belief that if an event happens more frequently than normal during a given period, it will happen less frequently in the future (or vice versa).
Synesthesia does not protect a player from this cognitive bias; in fact, the strong visual or sensory associations synesthetes have with certain numbers might even reinforce a false sense of "pattern" where none exists.
Neural Circuitry of Gambling: Studies show that anticipation of a win at the roulette table activates the same brain regions (the dorsal striatum) regardless of whether the player is using a specific strategy or just betting on "lucky" numbers.
Sensory Cues and Risk: NIH research indicates that audiovisual cues in gambling (like the colors and sounds of a roulette wheel) can actually promote riskier decision-making and increased arousal. For a synesthete, these extra sensory layers could potentially lead to greater "immersion" or "the machine zone," which is linked to problematic gambling rather than a strategic edge.
Summary of Scientific Consensus
According to NIH-hosted literature, synesthesia is a fascinating neurological condition that provides a "richer" sensory world, but it is not a tool for overcoming the mathematical house edge of a casino. "
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the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
December 31st, 2025 at 12:58:03 PM
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Quote: EvenBobFor my 30,000th post, I'm making the announcement that I'm writing a book on how to beat roulette. I already discussed this with Mike and he said it's okay to make this post. It will be a self-published hardcover book that will not be very long and it will only be for sale privately. I thought about teaching my roulette method to someone but I have nobody that I know personally in my private life that wants to learn it. Everybody in my family is very religious and they do not go to casinos. I'll be 76 this year and I want to leave something as a sort of legacy, because I believe I've really accomplished something with roulette. It will be a short book probably under 50 pages, self-published and only about 10 copies printed. I have no intention of making any money off of it and the cost of each book will probably be around $500. Enough to cover the cost of printing a hardcover book. I don't know when this is going to happen because right now I'm doing the outline and if you've ever written a book you know how difficult it is.
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My daughter and her husband published their book earlier this year on Amazon.
After they wrote the manuscript, they sent a copy through the Internet, to a free lancer from Fiverr who put it into book form. They used another free lancer from the same site to design the cover. Inexpensive.
Then they submitted the finished book through the Internet to Amazon Self Publishing for approval.
The book is available on Kindle and in soft cover. No need to order printed copies. Amazon prints the book, only when a book is ordered.
"Amazon absolutely prints books, primarily through its Kindle Direct Publishing (KDP) service, using a Print-on-Demand (POD) model where books (paperback and hardcover) are printed only when a customer orders them, eliminating upfront inventory costs for authors. Amazon manages the printing, shipping, and customer service, allowing authors to self-publish and distribute books globally with no inventory or manufacturing fees."
December 31st, 2025 at 3:20:00 PM
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Quote: lilredroosterQuote: EvenBobAI, boiler plate crap. Try reading real info written by real
people.
here's some more AI on the subject
I love AI
it's smarter than humans
it has no biases
"Why Synesthesia Cannot "Beat" Roulette
Research on the psychology of roulette often highlights that the game is a series of independent, random events.
Gambler’s Fallacy: NIH-funded research explores the "gambler's fallacy"—the mistaken belief that if an event happens more frequently than normal during a given period, it will happen less frequently in the future (or vice versa).
Synesthesia does not protect a player from this cognitive bias; in fact, the strong visual or sensory associations synesthetes have with certain numbers might even reinforce a false sense of "pattern" where none exists.
Neural Circuitry of Gambling: Studies show that anticipation of a win at the roulette table activates the same brain regions (the dorsal striatum) regardless of whether the player is using a specific strategy or just betting on "lucky" numbers.
Sensory Cues and Risk: NIH research indicates that audiovisual cues in gambling (like the colors and sounds of a roulette wheel) can actually promote riskier decision-making and increased arousal. For a synesthete, these extra sensory layers could potentially lead to greater "immersion" or "the machine zone," which is linked to problematic gambling rather than a strategic edge.
Summary of Scientific Consensus
According to NIH-hosted literature, synesthesia is a fascinating neurological condition that provides a "richer" sensory world, but it is not a tool for overcoming the mathematical house edge of a casino. "
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Hilarious you think AI is smarter than you are. SSS doesn't beat roulette, I do. It's one of the things I use to understand the game. AI cannot know if that is true or not, all it knows is what the raulette losers have taught it to say.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 31st, 2025 at 5:19:47 PM
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Quote: EvenBobFor my 30,000th post, I'm making the announcement that I'm writing a book on how to beat roulette. I already discussed this with Mike and he said it's okay to make this post. It will be a self-published hardcover book that will not be very long and it will only be for sale privately. I thought about teaching my roulette method to someone but I have nobody that I know personally in my private life that wants to learn it. Everybody in my family is very religious and they do not go to casinos. I'll be 76 this year and I want to leave something as a sort of legacy, because I believe I've really accomplished something with roulette. It will be a short book probably under 50 pages, self-published and only about 10 copies printed. I have no intention of making any money off of it and the cost of each book will probably be around $500. Enough to cover the cost of printing a hardcover book. I don't know when this is going to happen because right now I'm doing the outline and if you've ever written a book you know how difficult it is.
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Good for you. My father wrote a cookbook at age 82.
You can't know everything, but you can know anything.
January 1st, 2026 at 4:31:17 AM
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suggestion to increase the sales of your book
ask the Wizard to set you up at a roulette wheel
and record your results after 400 spins flat betting only
or let the Wizard determine a better way to insure that it is very likely that your method is a winner
I guess some fee would be required for him to do this but I imagine that can be arranged
if you're way ahead after 400 spins or some similar kind of trial the demand for your book would skyrocket
I doubt that this will ever happen - but the results would be very interesting
for people to believe there is going to have to be something more concrete than you just saying or writing that you can do it
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suggestion to increase the sales of your book
ask the Wizard to set you up at a roulette wheel
and record your results after 400 spins flat betting only
or let the Wizard determine a better way to insure that it is very likely that your method is a winner
I guess some fee would be required for him to do this but I imagine that can be arranged
if you're way ahead after 400 spins or some similar kind of trial the demand for your book would skyrocket
I doubt that this will ever happen - but the results would be very interesting
for people to believe there is going to have to be something more concrete than you just saying or writing that you can do it
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January 1st, 2026 at 6:05:02 PM
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I think this joke is getting a bit too cruel to be funny, and in increasingly poor taste.
January 1st, 2026 at 7:06:43 PM
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Quote: DougGanderI think this joke is getting a bit too cruel to be funny, and in increasingly poor taste.
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You've been here for exactly 60 days and you have an opinion about a thread that I rarely post in. This is hardly a joke, I've been posting about roulette since 2006 in various gambling forums. But I'm sure you know that otherwise you wouldn't have such an opinion from just being here a short time. My name was Spike on a forum where I had over 20,000 posts about roulette, remember? Sure you do..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
