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March 12th, 2023 at 11:45:06 PM permalink
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Just live in your car.
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I live in a fifth wheel and have no plans for anything else. I have an amish shed I'm using as an office and a storage container for what's left of my stock. My trailer is 38 feet and I might downsize it a bit. I don't want to spend 70K on a big pickup to haul it around if I go in that direction.
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i think the future is 3d printed homes, but printed in basic polygon shapes that can fit together in multiple combinations, and assembled and disassembled and shipped across country on flatbed trucks that you can put on property using standardized plumbing and electrical bases Standardized wiring and plumbing will be put in during the printing.

Afterall, a rectangular living room of a 5-million-dollar house can have the same basic frame as a 250k house, just better exterior and interior external bits (and larger and more rooms) And if you want a octagon room with a 30 ft walls and domed ceilings you can order it.

Plug n play houses' No reason to sell or buy, just ship the modules for as long as they last.

Don't tell Elon, he's always stealing my ideas.
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They will always find a way to make it just as expensive. If you find a way to make super cheap houses the cost of land will skyrocket.

I hear the shipping containers are seriously stacking up in china. Problem solved.
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March 13th, 2023 at 4:48:58 AM permalink
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So, how do you make an oversized box smaller?



Compression. Look at those foam mattresses that ship in a cardboard box. Just open a 24"x24"x24" box an out pops a king sized mattress. Just need to find a way to shove your house in that box.
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March 13th, 2023 at 5:26:39 AM permalink
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Just live in your car.
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I live in a fifth wheel and have no plans for anything else. I have an amish shed I'm using as an office and a storage container for what's left of my stock. My trailer is 38 feet and I might downsize it a bit. I don't want to spend 70K on a big pickup to haul it around if I go in that direction.
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i think the future is 3d printed homes, but printed in basic polygon shapes that can fit together in multiple combinations, and assembled and disassembled and shipped across country on flatbed trucks that you can put on property using standardized plumbing and electrical bases Standardized wiring and plumbing will be put in during the printing.

Afterall, a rectangular living room of a 5-million-dollar house can have the same basic frame as a 250k house, just better exterior and interior external bits (and larger and more rooms) And if you want a octagon room with a 30 ft walls and domed ceilings you can order it.

Plug n play houses' No reason to sell or buy, just ship the modules for as long as they last.

edit, I just went an looked up images of shipping containers homes, and many look pretty fancy now. The home i saw still looked mostly container on the outside, Footage was 5000 feet as the 3rd story roof was used as a deck.

Don't tell Elon, he's always stealing my ideas.
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They will always find a way to make it just as expensive. If you find a way to make super cheap houses the cost of land will skyrocket.

I hear the shipping containers are seriously stacking up in china. Problem solved.
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I've been in a 3 story shipping container house. It was interesting. Has to be one of the cheapest ways to build a home, assuming you're not getting inflated prices on used containers. Although many of the rooms were small, some were cutout enough between two or more containers. It was furnished just like a regular home. If you don't mind the metal shipping container look you can go heavy metal.

Of course, one issue could be finding a location where your neighbors won't complain about that look. But functionally, there is nothing wrong with the idea.
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March 13th, 2023 at 5:33:49 AM permalink
I've got a blizzard coming tonight and the heat went out in my bedroom yesterday. Convincing the property manager to replace the heating valve in the laundry room could be difficult because facts don't matter to her, at all, unless it's her facts then she's really ragey. I also have to clean the apartment for a few hours before I call, so this all may get postponed until next week. Hopefully the hot water pipe won't freeze and explode.
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March 13th, 2023 at 7:19:03 AM permalink
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Not so much Lustron as Lego, if I understand correctly. Also, there are companies 3D printing concrete houses right now: iconbuild is one example.

My mom grew up in one of the Lombard Illinois Lustrons. Which is still standing, mostly unmodified, 70+ years later.
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So for a new 3d printed concrete home that is 1574 sq ft situated in West Texas, Iconbuild states that prices start in the mid $400K. That doesn't include the land. Not sure how you handle things like a heating system or AC system. Seems kinda expensive to me. Maybe unit costs will drop in the future?
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The thing is, 3D printing only does the exterior walls.

There are a lot of other things that go into construction that make it expensive that 3D printing does not help with - plumbing, electric, interior finishing, etc.
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March 13th, 2023 at 8:58:39 AM permalink
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Not so much Lustron as Lego, if I understand correctly. Also, there are companies 3D printing concrete houses right now: iconbuild is one example.

My mom grew up in one of the Lombard Illinois Lustrons. Which is still standing, mostly unmodified, 70+ years later.
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So for a new 3d printed concrete home that is 1574 sq ft situated in West Texas, Iconbuild states that prices start in the mid $400K. That doesn't include the land. Not sure how you handle things like a heating system or AC system. Seems kinda expensive to me. Maybe unit costs will drop in the future?
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The thing is, 3D printing only does the exterior walls.

There are a lot of other things that go into construction that make it expensive that 3D printing does not help with - plumbing, electric, interior finishing, etc.
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That's why one should adopt a standard so the plumbling and wiring will be inlaid during printing rather than installing later. You know exactly where it will be if you need to access it. I also assume, they have to do repairs on just about anything for one reason or another. It's good to have consistent standards.
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March 13th, 2023 at 1:25:53 PM permalink
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There are a lot of other things that go into construction that make it expensive that 3D printing does not help with - plumbing, electric, interior finishing, etc.



They claim 85% of this rocket is 3D printed. Of course, it failed to launch last week as planned.

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March 13th, 2023 at 2:11:14 PM permalink
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Just live in your car.
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I live in a fifth wheel and have no plans for anything else. I have an amish shed I'm using as an office and a storage container for what's left of my stock. My trailer is 38 feet and I might downsize it a bit. I don't want to spend 70K on a big pickup to haul it around if I go in that direction.
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i think the future is 3d printed homes, but printed in basic polygon shapes that can fit together in multiple combinations, and assembled and disassembled and shipped across country on flatbed trucks that you can put on property using standardized plumbing and electrical bases Standardized wiring and plumbing will be put in during the printing.

Afterall, a rectangular living room of a 5-million-dollar house can have the same basic frame as a 250k house, just better exterior and interior external bits (and larger and more rooms) And if you want a octagon room with a 30 ft walls and domed ceilings you can order it.

Plug n play houses' No reason to sell or buy, just ship the modules for as long as they last.

edit, I just went an looked up images of shipping containers homes, and many look pretty fancy now. The home i saw still looked mostly container on the outside, Footage was 5000 feet as the 3rd story roof was used as a deck.

Don't tell Elon, he's always stealing my ideas.
link to original post

They will always find a way to make it just as expensive. If you find a way to make super cheap houses the cost of land will skyrocket.

I hear the shipping containers are seriously stacking up in china. Problem solved.
link to original post



I've been in a 3 story shipping container house. It was interesting. Has to be one of the cheapest ways to build a home, assuming you're not getting inflated prices on used containers. Although many of the rooms were small, some were cutout enough between two or more containers. It was furnished just like a regular home. If you don't mind the metal shipping container look you can go heavy metal.

Of course, one issue could be finding a location where your neighbors won't complain about that look. But functionally, there is nothing wrong with the idea.
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Containers are not great to build homes despite looking hipster-cool. When you cut out walls. doors, and windows you seriously weaken things and have to add in support. Better ways out there.
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March 13th, 2023 at 3:14:28 PM permalink
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Just live in your car.
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I live in a fifth wheel and have no plans for anything else. I have an amish shed I'm using as an office and a storage container for what's left of my stock. My trailer is 38 feet and I might downsize it a bit. I don't want to spend 70K on a big pickup to haul it around if I go in that direction.
link to original post



i think the future is 3d printed homes, but printed in basic polygon shapes that can fit together in multiple combinations, and assembled and disassembled and shipped across country on flatbed trucks that you can put on property using standardized plumbing and electrical bases Standardized wiring and plumbing will be put in during the printing.

Afterall, a rectangular living room of a 5-million-dollar house can have the same basic frame as a 250k house, just better exterior and interior external bits (and larger and more rooms) And if you want a octagon room with a 30 ft walls and domed ceilings you can order it.

Plug n play houses' No reason to sell or buy, just ship the modules for as long as they last.

edit, I just went an looked up images of shipping containers homes, and many look pretty fancy now. The home i saw still looked mostly container on the outside, Footage was 5000 feet as the 3rd story roof was used as a deck.

Don't tell Elon, he's always stealing my ideas.
link to original post

They will always find a way to make it just as expensive. If you find a way to make super cheap houses the cost of land will skyrocket.

I hear the shipping containers are seriously stacking up in china. Problem solved.
link to original post



I've been in a 3 story shipping container house. It was interesting. Has to be one of the cheapest ways to build a home, assuming you're not getting inflated prices on used containers. Although many of the rooms were small, some were cutout enough between two or more containers. It was furnished just like a regular home. If you don't mind the metal shipping container look you can go heavy metal.

Of course, one issue could be finding a location where your neighbors won't complain about that look. But functionally, there is nothing wrong with the idea.
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Containers are not great to build homes despite looking hipster-cool. When you cut out walls. doors, and windows you seriously weaken things and have to add in support. Better ways out there.
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Do you add insulation to the exterior walls of a container house?

There are many features of a house that go beyond an exterior shell that make modern homes comfortable. Ventilation. Roofs and gutters that channel rainwater away from the structure. Floors with some give so that your legs and feet don't start to ache. A firm foundation so that the structure does not start to tilt/lean in the future.

Getting wifi/internet into steel containers will require a penetration since wifi doesn't go through steel containers. Clothes driers, dishwashers and stoves require vents to the exterior. So will whatever options you use for heat and AC. Electrical wiring in an electrically-conductive shell is a pretty serious matter because of the hazards posed by shorts and arcing in the future. Also, wall penetrations for pipes for running water and sewage.

meh.
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March 13th, 2023 at 3:16:30 PM permalink
People don't seem to save much building their own homes as it is no matter what they use. If it's true you only save maybe 10-15%, or maybe not even that. I would think industry gets a better deal on materials since they use mass quantities. I guess there is the satisfaction of doing it yourself, but that's a lot of work. I wouldn't do it myself.
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