Quote: rdw4potusWait a minute...do you post this same worthless crap on 4 different boards? Doesn't pretty much everyone give the same reaction? You certainly aren't being well received here - are things different for you on the other boards?
You know whats funny about your question? It could be directed to Keyser, how would anybody know? ROFL
Tell me where I'm wrong. The guy misquotes me. Is that correct to do? He lies all the time. Is that correct to do? He never answers questions. Is that correct to do?
Ken
Quote: mrjjjYou know whats funny about your question? It could be directed to Keyser, how would anybody know? ROFL
Tell me where I'm wrong. The guy misquotes me. Is that correct to do? He lies all the time. Is that correct to do? He never answers questions. Is that correct to do?
Ken
No, none of that is correct to do. Why do you take up space and try to talk to him? And on 4 different boards, nonetheless.
q=rdw4potus]No, none of that is correct to do. Why do you take up space and try to talk to him? And on 4 different boards, nonetheless.
Try to talk to him, Keyser? Are you nuts? lol None of my threads/posts are FOR HIM directly. He just so happens to lurk around WAITING for me to post so he can attack. I cant stop him from posting. The guy is a loon but a rookie roulette player so I cut him a bit of slack.
Ken
Quote: DeMangoThis is kind of like the final scene in Blazing Saddles, where the action moves from the western scene to the movie lot. Some people make the mistake of answering idiotic questions and then the race is on with misquotes, counter charges and never explaining how we can have a 5% advantage in a game with a -5% ev. Fortunately I only witness this on one other site, I hope it comes to an end soon.....
Just curious...who said they have a 5% advantage? If it was me, can you copy/paste it for us to read, thanks.
Ken
Quote: mrjjj
...but a rookie roulette player so I ...
I love this.
Quote: mrjjjThe guy is a loon but a rookie roulette player so I cut him a bit of slack.
Ken
Sooo...Instead of losing the 5.26% that a seasoned pro will lose, he loses 5.26% instead?
Quote: rdw4potusSooo...Instead of losing the 5.26% that a seasoned pro will lose, he loses 5.26% instead?
I've asked this question 100 times and 100 times have either received no answer or an insult of some form.
Answer this (your opinion) >> I have not been playing too long, maybe 10 years total. The last 3-4 years have been GREAT. Anyways, lets assume I'm not lying. Why is it that around every 12-18 months, I 'get better'? I know, we need a definition. I only mean that my percent of net profit steadily GOES UP. 2010 was better than 2008. 2008 was better than 2006 but how can this be? The same 5.26% applies to everyone, I agree. I hope/assume 2011 will be 'better' than 2010, at least thats my GOAL. If I stayed at the same level year after year after year, I would simply stop playing. To me, there would be no point.
Ken
Quote: mrjjjI've asked this question 100 times and 100 times have either received no answer or an insult of some form.
Answer this (your opinion) >> I have not been playing too long, maybe 10 years total. The last 3-4 years have been GREAT. Anyways, lets assume I'm not lying. Why is it that around every 12-18 months, I 'get better'? I know, we need a definition. I only mean that my percent of net profit steadily GOES UP. 2010 was better than 2008. 2008 was better than 2006 but how can this be? The same 5.26% applies to everyone, I agree. I hope/assume 2011 will be 'better' than 2010, at least thats my GOAL. If I stayed at the same level year after year after year, I would simply stop playing. To me, there would be no point.
Ken
Roulette is a game that involves no skill whatsoever. Every bet (except 0-00-1-2-3) has the same house edge, and there is absolutely no way to lessen that edge. If you have been winning - Congratulations! But you need to realize that there is no reason to expect the winning to continue, let alone increase.
I notice that you listed only 2006, 2008, and 2010. Was that for illustration only? Or were there problems in 2007 and 2009 that you're trying to mask?
Quote: rdw4potusRoulette is a game that involves no skill whatsoever. Every bet (except 0-00-1-2-3) has the same house edge, and there is absolutely no way to lessen that edge. If you have been winning - Congratulations! But you need to realize that there is no reason to expect the winning to continue, let alone increase.
I notice that you listed only 2006, 2008, and 2010. Was that for illustration only? Or were there problems in 2007 and 2009 that you're trying to mask?
"If you have been winning" >>> Incomplete. As the years go by, my graph (if I made one) steadily goes up. You cant just say...'winning'. No problems in 07 and 09, I was making a comparison as to WHY (how) a year in NET wins is better than the prior year or even two years prior to that. Thats all it meant. My first 5-6 years were quite rough, I won't lie. I thought playing a Marty was the HG. lol
After LEARNING a ton from reading books and forums, asking questions, saving up for higher BR's, tweaking methods, learning from mistakes etc., what a HUGE difference! I said it before, a first year player and a guy who has been playing for 20 years.....the SAME in terms of smart decisions being made and/or methods of choice, those two guys are the same? No damn way, sorry! On paper (again, in theory) should they be the same? Yes. In the *REAL* world? No.
Ken
After reading one of his threads, I feel like I just drank a tall glass of crazy juice. It's like trying to make sense of a conspiracy theorist's explanation of what happened on 9/11. The thread hops all over the place with logic ducking and dodging each post that has been made by the disorganized mind that is Mr. Jjj.
-Keyser
Quote: KeyserAt first, Mr. Jjj's posts were funny because they were so absurd. Now, they are just annoying.
After reading one of his threads, I feel like I just drank a tall glass of crazy juice. It's like trying to make sense of a conspiracy theorist's explanation of what happened on 9/11. The thread hops all over the place with logic ducking and dodging each post that has been made by the disorganized mind that is Mr. Jjj.
-Keyser
Ummm, any chance of you sticking to the thread or are you gonna continue 'hopping' all over without contributing a darn thing? lol You see guys, Keyser is a wannabee winner. Always was like that for the guy, always will be. He thinks AP (cough) is going to lead him to the promise land but I explained to him already...its only gamblers fallacy sir, move on to something else. Slots perhaps?
Ken
Quote: mrjjjits only gamblers fallacy sir, move on to something else. Slots perhaps?
Ken
umm...this from a guy who bases his betting on past numbers? LOL!
Quote: rdw4potusumm...this from a guy who bases his betting on past numbers? LOL!
Please quote correctly, thank you. Not all methods are based on the past. What casino game do you play with a ZERO house advantage?
Ken
Mr. Jjj believes that system players have more casino experience than an advantage player.
In other words, Mr. Jjj. honestly believes that the average "system player" has more experience than the average card counter/ hole carder etc/ video poker ap, etc.
Furthermore, Mr. Jjj believes that system players are more likely to be banned than an advantage player.
Does anyone have the patience to set the guy straight?
Quote: KeyserMaybe we can disprove at least one of Mr. Jjj.'s long held believes, while we have this crazy thread running all over the place.
Mr. Jjj believes that system players have more casino experience than an advantage player.
In other words, Mr. Jjj. honestly believes that the average "system player" has more experience than the average card counter/ hole carder etc/ video poker ap, etc.
Furthermore, Mr. Jjj believes that system players are more likely to be banned than an advantage player.
Does anyone have the patience to set the guy straight?
God, no. We've all tried, at one time or another. It's impossible to talk logically to the guy. He honestly believes that he's right, and dozens of people on this board, as well as hundreds of thousands of people in the gambling world in general, are wrong. He is basically deluding himself in the hope that he can beat roulette, a casino game with a huge house edge, and no meaningful strategy or decisions to be made. An essential part of that delusion, for him, is saying (over and over and over and over and over) that there are no such people as advantage players. That makes him feel better about bashing his head against the brick wall of roulette.
This is his third mega-spew on this forum in the last several months, and when he gets tired of it, he goes to bother some other gambling website forum.
Quote: KeyserMaybe we can disprove at least one of Mr. Jjj.'s long held believes, while we have this crazy thread running all over the place.
Mr. Jjj believes that system players have more casino experience than an advantage player.
In other words, Mr. Jjj. honestly believes that the average "system player" has more experience than the average card counter/ hole carder etc/ video poker ap, etc.
Furthermore, Mr. Jjj believes that system players are more likely to be banned than an advantage player.
Does anyone have the patience to set the guy straight?
You can set me straight after you do two things.
Where did I say...."believes that system players have more casino experience than an advantage player" Please quote correctly, thank you. Copy/paste where I said that.
Where did I say...."believes that system players are more likely to be banned than an advantage player" Please quote correctly, thank you. Copy/paste where I said that.
Ken
Quote: KeyserI'm amazed by the sheer mania of it all. The number of posts, the delusion, and the conspriacies. There can be hundreds of posts in one of his threads with 2/3s of the posts being his!
Back to..."alot of posts Ken". Nope. If I get a question or slammed, responding back is hardly, too many posts. I think you know the EASY way to slow down my posts, correct? Come on, think hard! BTW, you found time to post but no extra time to locate those quotes from me? Still waiting cupcake. lol You have to ask yourself a question. If it really bothered me here, why would I just now, post another method? If I know 'whats coming', why do it Ken? Bring it coconut boy, I win and you dont. Stuff that in your Christmas stockin.
Ken :)
Quote: mkl654321God, no. We've all tried, at one time or another. It's impossible to talk logically to the guy. He honestly believes that he's right, and dozens of people on this board, as well as hundreds of thousands of people in the gambling world in general, are wrong. He is basically deluding himself in the hope that he can beat roulette, a casino game with a huge house edge, and no meaningful strategy or decisions to be made. An essential part of that delusion, for him, is saying (over and over and over and over and over) that there are no such people as advantage players. That makes him feel better about bashing his head against the brick wall of roulette.
This is his third mega-spew on this forum in the last several months, and when he gets tired of it, he goes to bother some other gambling website forum.
Wrong answer. You will NOT tell me I dont do 'well' and at the SAME time, you dont explain how you BEAT the HA regardless of which game. You dont get to have it BOTH ways.
Ken
We believe that you are an amazingly successful high roller with loads of "bling". - Really (cough)
Now, please provide us with an honest an answer. Do you believe that your average "system" player has more experience in the casino than your average "AP" player?
(No specific game)
Answer this (your opinion) >> I have not been playing too long, maybe 10 years total. The last 3-4 years have been GREAT. Anyways, lets assume I'm not lying. Why is it that around every 12-18 months, I 'get better'? I know, we need a definition. I only mean that my percent of net profit steadily GOES UP. 2010 was better than 2008. 2008 was better than 2006 but how can this be? The same 5.26% applies to everyone, I agree. I hope/assume 2011 will be 'better' than 2010, at least thats my GOAL. If I stayed at the same level year after year after year, I would simply stop playing. To me, there would be no point.
Now, you only have a few choices to choose from.
A) I'm lying.
B) I'm only doing 'ok' but am exaggerating wins.
C) You have no explanation
D) Its STILL too early, not enough data. The big DROP OFF is coming soon! (lol)
E) Hmmm perhaps.....;)
Nobody will insult me but for Gods sake, at least answer a question like an adult would.
Ken
Quote: mrjjjStill waiting >>
Answer this (your opinion) >> I have not been playing too long, maybe 10 years total. The last 3-4 years have been GREAT. Anyways, lets assume I'm not lying. Why is it that around every 12-18 months, I 'get better'? I know, we need a definition. I only mean that my percent of net profit steadily GOES UP. 2010 was better than 2008. 2008 was better than 2006 but how can this be? The same 5.26% applies to everyone, I agree. I hope/assume 2011 will be 'better' than 2010, at least thats my GOAL. If I stayed at the same level year after year after year, I would simply stop playing. To me, there would be no point.
Now, you only have a few choices to choose from.
A) I'm lying
B) I'm only doing 'ok' but am e
C) You have no explanation
D) Its STILL too early, not enough data. The big DROP OFF is coming soon! (lol)
E) Hmmm perhaps.....;)
Nobody will insult me but for Gods sake, at least answer a question like an adult would.
Ken
Okay, so what do you think is happening? Do you think your betting system is beating the house edge, or something?
Quote: mrjjjPlease quote correctly, thank you. Not all methods are based on the past. What casino game do you play with a ZERO house advantage?
Ken
I play no casino games that have a 0 house edge.
I play the following games with a LOWER house edge than Roulette:
Video Poker
$1 slot machines (downtown, Boulder Strip, North Las Vegas)
blackjack
blackjack switch
spanish 21
4 card poker
crazy 4 poker
ultimate texas holdem
three card poker
Mississippi Stud
Caribbean Stud
Pai Gow Poker
Craps
Baccarat
Pai Gow Tiles
Casino War
In my entire life, I have played the following games with a house edge as high as or higher than double zero roulette:
Double 0 roulette, for about 20 minutes when I turned 21
Big 6, for about 15 minutes when I was in Vegas this October
other slots, for maybe 10 hours total (not counting free play, which really is AP)
Why would anyone CHOOSE to play a game with a HIGHER house edge than another game? Enjoyment, maybe? You'd better really like Roulette, because you'd be better off picking just about any other game to play...
Quote:Okay, so what do you think is happening? Do you think your betting system is beating the house edge, or something?
That would mean that Mr. Jjj. has the house edge. That in turn, would mean that Mr. Jjj. is an advantage player, which according to Mr. Jjj's logic means that he doesn't really exist! Therefore he isn't winning but he is winning because we are all jealous of him, because he's not an AP player and doesn't have the edge but has bought and Italian Restaurant because he wins so much from not having the house edge...... ~~~~~~~CrAzY~~~~~~
Quote: KeyserThat would mean that Mr. Jjj. has the house edge. That in turn, would mean that Mr. Jjj. is an advantage player, which according to Mr. Jjj's logic means that he doesn't really exist! Therefore he isn't winning but he is winning because we are all jealous of him, because he's not an AP player and doesn't have the edge but has bought and Italian Restaurant because he wins so much from not having the house edge...... ~~~~~~~CrAzY~~~~~~
By winning at roulette, mrjjj has proved his nonexistence. I like it....
B) I asked you, still waiting...
C) I somewhat answered ALREADY but will attempt to again. I dont think the rookie player and the long term player are on the SAME level, hence my question posted above. If anything, I want opinions. I'm not saying I know it all but I am asking a very legit question.
Ken
Ken
Quote: mkl654321By winning at roulette, mrjjj has proved his nonexistence. I like it....
'Winning' meaning when? Last week? Last month? I didn't 'win' for at least 5-6 of my starting years. That should cheer you up.
Ken
Quote: KeyserOk Mr. Jjj.,
We believe that you are an amazingly successful high roller with loads of "bling". - Really (cough)
Now, please provide us with an honest an answer. Do you believe that your average "system" player has more experience in the casino than your average "AP" player?
(No specific game)
I said nothing about 'bling'. Where did that come from? (He wont answer that one guys). Amazing might be a stretch but I do 'well' considering everyone is terrified of 5.26%...ROFL, so what?
In terms of your question, how can I answer it? I dont have enough data or a poll of 100,000 casino gamblers. How would anybody (including you cupcake) GUESS on such an important topic?
Ken
Quote: mrjjjA) Its a method, not a system.
Method, sorry. I was using them as synonyms, which apparently you aren't; so what, to you, is the difference between the two? I'm genuinely curious.
Quote: mrjjjB) I asked you, still waiting...
Okay, fine, my opinion: You've been lucky. Savor the winnings, because winning money is nice.
I've been lucky at craps, myself; I'm ahead this year, using my method of one pass line bet and the occasional come bet.
Quote: mrjjj
C) I somewhat answered ALREADY but will attempt to again. I dont think the rookie player and the long term player are on the SAME level, hence my question posted above. If anything, I want opinions. I'm not saying I know it all but I am asking a very legit question.
Okay, what do you mean by "same level"? Level of what? Strategy? Methodology? Systemology? Bankroll management? Literally playing on a roulette table on a different floor of the casino?
Quote: rdw4potusI play no casino games that have a 0 house edge.
I play the following games with a LOWER house edge than Roulette:
Video Poker
$1 slot machines (downtown, Boulder Strip, North Las Vegas)
blackjack
blackjack switch
spanish 21
4 card poker
crazy 4 poker
ultimate texas holdem
three card poker
Mississippi Stud
Caribbean Stud
Pai Gow Poker
Craps
Baccarat
Pai Gow Tiles
Casino War
In my entire life, I have played the following games with a house edge as high as or higher than double zero roulette:
Double 0 roulette, for about 20 minutes when I turned 21
Big 6, for about 15 minutes when I was in Vegas this October
other slots, for maybe 10 hours total (not counting free play, which really is AP)
Why would anyone CHOOSE to play a game with a HIGHER house edge than another game? Enjoyment, maybe? You'd better really like Roulette, because you'd be better off picking just about any other game to play...
Ok neato BUT in the long term, you will still lose because of the HA, correct?
Ken
Quote: ElectricDreamsMethod, sorry. I was using them as synonyms, which apparently you aren't; so what, to you, is the difference between the two? I'm genuinely curious.
Okay, fine, my opinion: You've been lucky. Savor the winnings, because winning money is nice.
I've been lucky at craps, myself; I'm ahead this year, using my method of one pass line bet and the occasional come bet.
Okay, what do you mean by "same level"? Level of what? Strategy? Methodology? Systemology? Bankroll management? Literally playing on a roulette table on a different floor of the casino?
"to you, is the difference between the two? I'm genuinely curious" >>> I cant even tell you how many times I answered that question. My question involves....Year after year after year, net profits steadily rising. Still 'lucky'? If yes, no problem and I thank you for answering like an adult would. The way the MATH (cough) is suppose to be, every year should be roughly the same as the previous, in terms of percent I'm talking, correct?
Level? Hmmm, tough to explain. Maybe an analogy. The rookie firefighter and the 20 year firefighter. Different levels of knowledge and one guy prone to making more mistakes than the 20 year experience guy. Different levels, sure, why not?
Ken
Quote: KeyserThat would mean that Mr. Jjj. has the house edge. That in turn, would mean that Mr. Jjj. is an advantage player, which according to Mr. Jjj's logic means that he doesn't really exist! Therefore he isn't winning but he is winning because we are all jealous of him, because he's not an AP player and doesn't have the edge but has bought and Italian Restaurant because he wins so much from not having the house edge...... ~~~~~~~CrAzY~~~~~~
Please quote correctly, thank you. I said it was 80% (est) of winnings towards the restaurant. Throw around whatever TITLE you feel most comfortable with. Advantage player? lol Whatever man. Jealous of me? Nope, play whatever game makes you happy. I get nothing in my wallet if you do good and I lose nothing in my wallet if you have a bad week.
Ken
Quote: mrjjjOk neato BUT in the long term, you will still lose because of the HA, correct?
Ken
Yep. But the same number of dollars will last longer for me than for you. And I like not bleeding cash into a 5.26% house advantage when there are other fun games to play.
Long term, we're both going to die. That doesn't mean I should go jump off a bridge this afternoon...
Quote: KeyserWow, I really feel stupid at this point. Why on earth didn't we look at it in this way MKL?
@ Herb/Snowman. Would you agree, there are different levels in terms of KNOWLEDGE/experience of AP guys? The first year AP (cough) guy vs. the 20 year AP (cough) guy? Are they both EXACTLY the same?
Ken
Quote: rdw4potusYep. But the same number of dollars will last longer for me than for you. And I like not bleeding cash into a 5.26% house advantage when there are other fun games to play.
Long term, we're both going to die. That doesn't mean I should go jump off a bridge this afternoon...
"Yep" >>> Thank you.
Ken
Ken
I just think you are (A) lying. But I don't care if you are, and I don't care if you win or lose. I don't care that you own (cough) a restaurant 80% funded by roulette winnings (cough). I don't care if you die today of live another 50 years. I am just bored and feel like posting. I think you are bored as well and feel like posting. I lose money at -EV games, just like you do...in fact, I have a 50% chance to lose my bet on the NFL today. I do, however, enjoy the time I spend when I lose that money. You could probably silence your detractors by proving that you have won all this money. There must be some 'method' to do that. But like most consistent 'winners', you can't prove it, so alas, we go round and round and round.
I feel better now after poking the fire...and I am no longer bored.
Would you say I have an *ADVANTAGE* playing those hot numbers? (ROFL) Keep in mind, the definition of 'advantage'. Meaning, less than 5.26%?
Ken
Quote: avargovOk, I'll bite:
I just think you are (A) lying. But I don't care if you are, and I don't care if you win or lose. I don't care that you own (cough) a restaurant 80% funded by roulette winnings (cough). I don't care if you die today of live another 50 years. I am just bored and feel like posting. I think you are bored as well and feel like posting. I lose money at -EV games, just like you do...in fact, I have a 50% chance to lose my bet on the NFL today. I do, however, enjoy the time I spend when I lose that money. You could probably silence your detractors by proving that you have won all this money. There must be some 'method' to do that. But like most consistent 'winners', you can't prove it, so alas, we go round and round and round.
I feel better now after poking the fire...and I am no longer bored.
Like I said, any answer is cool, thanks for your time man.
"I have a 50% chance to lose my bet on the NFL today" >>> Funny you mention that. I was gonna start a thread about that subject.
"You could probably silence your detractors" >>> You think thats my goal? My goal is simply to POST (or start a thread) and then BAM, the insults start. I'm not out to silence anybody, I could careless. Its easy what 'they' do here. Gang up on a person and then pretend that the HA does not affect them? And I'm the bad guy. lol
"you can't prove it" >>> I stated that many times but when I ask the SAME question, its like pulling teeth to get an answer, big surprise.
Ken
I guess I was still bored...
Quote: avargovYour welcome. And I don't think your a 'bad' guy. And I don't think you are being 'ganged up' on. I think your assertions are ridiculous, but that is my opinion. I think your play 'methods' are no better than if I play the numbers that my ejaculate covers after I masturbate on the roulette felt. That is where the dogpile starts. You try to convince, or whatever it is you do, reasonable people that a 'method' works. And yours just might. But I am of the opinion that if you did find a way to turn lead into gold, why in the world would you share that info? Why would you risk your golden goose by sharing the eggs with the masses? Just doesn't make sense. If I had an in on tonights game, and it was a sure fire lock of the century, I might call two or three friends and let them in. But on a forum, no way, I wouldn't want the line to move. That is why I think you are lying about your results, and I think you just enjoy fighting about it and getting under the skin of your detractors. But hey, it's cheaper than getting fleeced at the roulette table. Maybe it's even a +EV proposition.
I guess I was still bored...
That a method works? Meaning all methods work? I never stated that nor implied that. In terms of sharing, I did answer that in the past. I 'share' methods that are either C+, B- or a solid B. I have TWO methods that have never been posted and never will because it would not be appreciated anyways. Those TWO methods are around a B+ or A-. Nope, I dont enjoy fighting but I do enjoy not backing down. Its funny sometimes how the guy who is DEFENDING himself is somehow...causing trouble.
Ken
Quote: mrjjj"to you, is the difference between the two? I'm genuinely curious" >>> I cant even tell you how many times I answered that question.
Humor me? I have no idea where you've defined them before on these boards.
Quote: mrjjjMy question involves....Year after year after year, net profits steadily rising. Still 'lucky'? If yes, no problem and I thank you for answering like an adult would. The way the MATH (cough) is suppose to be, every year should be roughly the same as the previous, in terms of percent I'm talking, correct?
I don't believe so. Expecting every year to be "roughly" the same as the last is like expecting every day, every session, or every single bet to be "roughly" the same as the last. House edge is long-term, here; tens of thousands of spins of the roulette wheel, over one super-long session.
The way it's been explained to me (and I'm sue you've heard this before) is the longer you play a game like roulette, the closer you'll be to that house edge. If you stopped playing roulette forever right now while you're ahead, that doesn't mean you somehow managed to find a winning system that beats the negative HE of roulette. You just stopped playing while your variance was positive.
Quote: mrjjjLevel? Hmmm, tough to explain. Maybe an analogy. The rookie firefighter and the 20 year firefighter. Different levels of knowledge and one guy prone to making more mistakes than the 20 year experience guy. Different levels, sure, why not?
Firefighting is a skill. A measurable skill. A person who has gained experience in firefighting can use their knowledge to have a better chance at saving a person from a burning building than, say, me, a computer programmer.
Playing roulette requires almost no skill whatsoever. Beyond avoiding the 0-00-1-2-3 combination (which apparently carries an edge of 7.89%), there is really nothing you can do to have a better odds at winning at roulette; the house edge is always the same. Always.
I think there are forms of gambling where skill can be taken into account, such as knowing when to hit or stand in blackjack, or even knowing which bets to avoid in craps. However, since really nothing you can do changes the house edge on roulette, I do not think there are different "levels" for the game.
It's just like baccarat, man. You ever watch people play that game? They take all these complicated notes about banker or player or tie winning and try to divine some sort of pattern out of them.
Tell us again about the restaurant that you bought with your vast roulette winnings. (cough, cough...It's contagious)
When going to it, do you recommend that we make reservations?
Quote: KeyserMr. Jjj.,
Tell us again about the restaurant that you bought with your vast roulette winnings. (cough, cough...It's contagious)
When going to it, do you recommend that we make reservations?
Nope, your question is condescending and you are out to cause trouble, again. I see that no one posted that little piece of info, surprising. Bias in members? No way. ROFL
Ken