Don't Come Table Attitude?

I understand that a Don't Pass better isn't always warmly embraced by the table since he's betting against the shooter while the majority of the people are betting with the shooter.

Is there any similar disapproving table attitude towards the Don't Come better? If I try betting the Don't Come will it generate pretty much the same amount of "player frowns" that the Don't Pass sometimes does?

I know I shouldn't necessarily care too much about what the rest of the table thinks, but I worry a bit about things like this (probably needlessly).

Quote: blount2000

Is there any similar disapproving table attitude towards the Don't Come better? If I try betting the Don't Come will it generate pretty much the same amount of "player frowns" that the Don't Pass sometimes does?

Yes. If the table frowns on DP play, it will also frown on DC's. Much depends on the dealer discreetly moving your bets, or asking aloud, "Who's darkside is this?" In any case, don't worry about it... But also, don't root or cheer your wins, since tthat means the right side bettors just lost.

Quote: Ayecarumba

Yes. If the table frowns on DP play, it will also frown on DC's. Much depends on the dealer discreetly moving your bets, or asking aloud, "Who's darkside is this?" In any case, don't worry about it... But also, don't root or cheer your wins, since tthat means the right side bettors just lost.

They only frown when the Don't wins. Otherwise they smirk knowingly. lol

I was hoping the table would see a distinction between me winning my Don't Come bet and them losing their Pass Line bet. ;)

But I guess a 7 that clears the table (but pays me) will get some frowns pointed my way regardless of the source/timing of my bet.

I never play the don'ts myself, but I also do not recall ever being at a table where there was any real animosity or conflict because of don't bettors at the table. Of course, if a don't bettor was winning and being loud and obnoxious about it, right bettors might look for another table more quickly than usual, just to improve the atmosphere around them.

It falls under the category of "It's all good..."

The only thing, as already mentioned, is to keep a low profile when you win and everyone else lost.


Often, a wrong bettor will not shoot, and will not bet or bet right, when the person on either side is shooting.

If you play the dark side at a table of rights you're an asshole, but I've been an asshole many a time.

I'll occasionally go over with a single don't + odds to decrease my variance for a short period. This is my way of "sitting it out" a few decisions. I had a guy getting pissed off at me once for this, he tried to be quiet and say it under his breath but I think he wanted me to hear him. As everyone else here has said, keep your emotions bottled up (although I find that you can get pissed off when everyone else wins, it's just that cheering when everyone else loses that kind of gets to them).

It can be hard on the wrong bettor when point after point is made, or when the seven simply refuses to come (except on the come out roll).

I make don't come bets only, one per point, and have never had any problems with other players while at the table. It is so rarely bet, that most players don't even realize what I am doing, especially since I keep my mouth shut and don't over celebrate.

Not to mention that when the shooter hits his point, and then throws a seven on his come-out while my don't come bet remains on the table, we both win and I get to celebrate with the right bettors, something you would never be able to do making don't pass bets.

Last winter at NYNY, I was making so much money, my end of the table did notice and asked what I was betting to be winning so much. I explained the bet to them and they all started doing the same thing!

Dealers don't care either since I tip well and am not obnoxious about winning or losing.

This is really an over-rated issue.
Come Bets and PassLine Bets are identical, they are simply made at different times.
DontPass and Don'tCome Bets are identical, they are simply made at different times.
One can view a PassLine bet as a quick way of saying "I know its a come out roll and I'm betting with the dice".
One can view a ComeBet as a quick way of saying "I KNOW there is already a point, but rather than wait around for the next formal ComeOut Roll, I want this very next roll to be own personal ComeOut Roll". Thats pretty much what happens and so if anyone is going to react emotionally and also express such a reaction it is likely to happen whether its a formal ComeOut roll or your own declaration that the next roll is to be treated as a comeout roll for your bet.

When I shoot the crew will often intone "From the Don't Hoping They Won't" and yes, I've seen some players give me nasty looks and walk away from the table. I've also sensed a bit of disappointment as the crew feel that such departing players might have been tippers had they stayed at the table longer.

I've only had a very FEW people make cracks to me directly about my being on the Don't even when I'm the shooter and as I've said its mainly been in low dive-like joints.

This "cooling" the table by being on the Don'ts is much overrated. Most people just seem to go along trying to turn their pile of chips into a bigger pile of chips and they don't much care what you are doing with your chips. Its sort of a distinct minority of players who seem to take notice or express any emotions about it.

Really and truly, you should NOT be concerned. The house books all bets. The dice don't know you are betting against them and the dice wouldn't much care even if they did know. So whatever you want to do: Go For It. And good luck!!

If another player says something, your response is up to you. If a dealer says something, I'd let it go but feel free to speak up. After all, if the bet loses, the casino really is going to take your money but they will take only the money that you bet. There is no added penalty for being On The Dark Side.