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August 19th, 2021 at 9:54:12 AM permalink
Quote: Wellbush

Why restrict the Dawg when he's just stating facts? He's come up trumps when witnessed, too. Maybe people don't like the facts?



I didn't think there was much of a hijacking case to be made about MDawg necessarily. You, on the other hand...
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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OnceDearJoeman
August 19th, 2021 at 9:56:26 AM permalink
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August 19th, 2021 at 10:14:42 AM permalink
Quote: Wellbush

These are clear insults. Is anyone gonna do anything? If not, is it because the insults come from someone insulting a known believer? That would be clear bias.

Take it to the appropriate thread.
But I'll save you the trouble.

LilRedRooster did not make clear insults any more than I did in my follow up. He expressed a certain exasperation at MDawg once again hijacking a thread to tell us how he always wins: how great he is. A claim that was not on topic in the thread and a clear hijack.

It's a close call as to whether that constituted an attack on the post or an attack on the member, so reminder to LilRed.

I believe that MDawg has professed his 'Great'ness a few times, and others have given him the adulation of a legend.
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August 19th, 2021 at 10:56:04 AM permalink
Quote: Wellbush

He's come up trumps when witnessed, too.



I would like to talk about this but not sure if I am allowed. I'll just limit my comment to why is the witness, Wizard, not allowed by agreement to say what he saw? Wizard is the expert and his opinion matters to some of us. Instead we get the other party telling us what Wizard saw. :/ And frankly that doesn't match up with the actions taken of moving discussions to "the losing betting systems" section.

It would be like in a court room, the witness isn't allowed to tell what he saw. Instead one of the parties involved tells you what the witness saw???? That defeats what a 'witness' is.
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August 19th, 2021 at 11:34:26 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

I would like to talk about this but not sure if I am allowed. I'll just limit my comment to why is the witness, Wizard, not allowed by agreement to say what he saw? Wizard is the expert and his opinion matters to some of us. Instead we get the other party telling us what Wizard saw. :/ And frankly that doesn't match up with the actions taken of moving discussions to "the losing betting systems" section.



KJ,
The arrangement entered into between Wizard, MDawg and DarkOz was limited in its scope. So too was the evidence delivered from that arrangement. C'est la vie.

Just as MDawg was suspended for hijacking this thread to boast about his prowess, it would be wrong for us to hijack it too.
Now, normally I'd say take your proposed discussion to the 'adventures...' thread, but I understand you are restricted there by some other agreement. Again, C'est la vie.

I earnestly suggest that you, KJ, have made your contribution to the topic of MDawg's veracity and that you personally really ought to leave the topic alone for now.

Here be Dragons !
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August 19th, 2021 at 11:46:30 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

KJ,
The arrangement entered into between Wizard, MDawg and DarkOz was limited in its scope. So too was the evidence delivered from that arrangement. C'est la vie.

Just as MDawg was suspended for hijacking this thread to boast about his prowess, it would be wrong for us to hijack it too.
Now, normally I'd say take your proposed discussion to the 'adventures...' thread, but I understand you are restricted there by some other agreement. Again, C'est la vie.

I earnestly suggest that you, KJ, have made your contribution to the topic of MDawg's veracity and that you personally really ought to leave the topic alone for now.

Here be Dragons !



With all due respect Oncedear, I understand that you don't make the rules and are just following and I understand that you probably are trying to protect me. But let me ask this question in all sincerity: Why should I be restricted more than anyone else on this forum in regards to expressing my opinion on this subject, as long as I don't violate rules with a personal attack? There are other members that express their concerns repeatedly, so why am I some sort of second class citizen?

And frankly, this is the second time such restrictions and limitations have been placed on me. While I have never seen such restrictions placed on any other member on this forum.
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August 19th, 2021 at 12:02:39 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

With all due respect Oncedear, I understand that you don't make the rules and are just following and I understand that you probably are trying to protect me. But let me ask this question in all sincerity: Why should I be restricted more than anyone else on this forum in regards to expressing my opinion on this subject, as long as I don't violate rules with a personal attack? There are other members that express their concerns repeatedly, so why am I some sort of second class citizen?

And frankly, this is the second time such restrictions and limitations have been placed on me. While I have never seen such restrictions placed on any other member on this forum.

And with all due respect back at yer...

I'm not fully familiar with what special restrictions Wizard placed on you and I make no comment about the fairness of them. I don't want to see anyone suspended for any action within the rules. Fact is, that's what I administer. I'm not going to penalise you for any breech of agreement that I'm not familiar with, nor am I going to search out reasons to suspend you under such exceptional restrictions. But that doesn't revoke such agreements and another moderator might react differently.

Again. Let's not hijack this thread!
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August 20th, 2021 at 1:09:25 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

a legend in his own mind



Personal insult. Three days.
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August 20th, 2021 at 1:17:55 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

I am not interested in some sort of short term peeing contest against some person on an internet forum, making all kind of rediculous claims for the sake of building and stroking ego.



Note: Emphasis mine.

Warning issued for making a personal insult. You don't know what mdawg's motive is and to suggest it has to do with stroking his ego I find insulting.
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August 21st, 2021 at 4:12:47 PM permalink
As any further discussion is likely to go awry, this thread will be locked for the time being.
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