moses
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August 18th, 2021 at 1:49:18 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

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I also only used Hi/Lo when I was playing
my feeling was that counting can be tiring
I was able to put in about 14 hours in a day - I only played one day a week
but I played every single week

my feeling was that if I tried a complex count I would get more tired
and wouldn't be able to play nearly as long
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Serious question. No disrespect intended. How difficult is it to drop the 2 and count the 5 as two instead of one?

In essence, you are betting more $$$ as 5's are removed. Which any book, sim, or chart will say is to your "advantage."

The 2? Not so much. More like an 8. A bunch of 2's coming out will increase TC. Now your betting into poor deck compositions which increase variance.

Remove all 2s. Maybe a slight threshold. Remove all 5's? Huge advantage. No?
lilredrooster
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August 18th, 2021 at 2:01:29 PM permalink
Quote: moses

Serious question. No disrespect intended. How difficult is it to drop the 2 and count the 5 as two instead of one?

In essence, you are betting more $$$ as 5's are removed. Which any book, sim, or chart will say is to your "advantage."

The 2? Not so much. More like an 8. A bunch of 2's coming out will increase TC. Now your betting into poor deck compositions which increase variance.

Remove all 2s. Maybe a slight threshold. Remove all 5's? Huge advantage. No?




thanks for the response
I don't know how much that would increase the advantage
for me anyway, it's a moot point - I don't play anymore

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moses
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August 18th, 2021 at 2:10:55 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

thanks for the response
I don't know how much that would increase the advantage
for me anyway, it's a moot point - I don't play anymore

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Not a moot point. You seem like a bright guy.

A sim will provide the answer(s)

Point is, Im not going back into the 80's books. A simple tweak with Norm's CV Data tells me how to utilize my table time wisely.
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August 18th, 2021 at 2:24:51 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

WARNING: Moses you are one inch away from another suspension for insulting kewlj.

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Ive been ridiculed and insulted for 8 years? Why? Because I play single deck blackjack in Reno.

Homeless, injured Vet, Living off the Gov. You name it. All Lies.

Don S. Norm, KJ, Tarzan, T3, Bosox, Freighter, Gordon888, Franl Galvin, Gronbog, 21Forme have little to no experience in the single deck game. Still I was able to take bit and pieces from them and add it to my game.

Ive spent endless hours running (and reviewing Sims). Studying charts and graphs to the point of being accused of having an affair.

I played and competed over a Million hands.

So I will take the fifth. Self Ban of 5 days.
Last edited by: moses on Aug 18, 2021
kewlj
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August 18th, 2021 at 2:26:36 PM permalink
Moses, I started this thread to share a situation my brother was going through involving negative variance, for the first time in his 4-5 of playing. I thought it important for other players to see the kind if variance that is involved with card counting. And even if there isn't a lot of interest, in regards to posts in the thread, I STILL think it important if some new player comes along in the future, or some player experiencing a real bad run and wants to look up an old thread, that can help him understand the variance that is involved in blackjack card counting and read about others experiencing that variance.

Now along about page 2, you hijacked the thread, as far as I am concerned into another version, of the never ending "count debate" that occurs on nearly every blackjack forum or thread. Now when I say hijacked, I don't mean to imply there should be a penalty imposed or anthing, But I am respectfully asking you, if you think there needs to be a thread discussing/debating counts, please start your own thread on the topic. I will probably participate because I have strong views on the topic. Views that very much differ from your views, based on my experience.
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August 18th, 2021 at 2:31:13 PM permalink
Quote: moses

Quote: gordonm888

WARNING: Moses you are one inch away from another suspension for insulting kewlj.

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Ive been ridiculed and insulted for 8 years? Why? Because I play single deck blackjack in Reno.

Homeless, injured Vet, Living off the Gov. You name it. All Lies.

Don S. Norm, KJ, Tarzan, T3, Bosox, Freighter, Gordon888, Gronbog, 21Forme have little to no experience in the single deck game. Still I was able to take bit and pieces from them and add it to my game.

Ive spent endless hours running (and reviewing Sims). Studying charts and graphs to the point of being accused of having an affair.

I played and competed over a Million hands.

So I will take the fifth. Self Ban of 5 days.



Again, this thread isn't about YOU or your single deck play in Reno. If you want to start a thread sharing your experiences, I and I suspect other would be interested in reading, even though most of us and the card counting world, no longer has access to such games.
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August 18th, 2021 at 5:59:36 PM permalink
Quote: moses

Quote: gordonm888

WARNING: Moses you are one inch away from another suspension for insulting kewlj.

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Ive been ridiculed and insulted for 8 years? Why? Because I play single deck blackjack in Reno.

Homeless, injured Vet, Living off the Gov. You name it. All Lies.

Don S. Norm, KJ, Tarzan, T3, Bosox, Freighter, Gordon888, Franl Galvin, Gronbog, 21Forme have little to no experience in the single deck game. Still I was able to take bit and pieces from them and add it to my game.

Ive spent endless hours running (and reviewing Sims). Studying charts and graphs to the point of being accused of having an affair.

I played and competed over a Million hands.

So I will take the fifth. Self Ban of 5 days.



Okay, I will enable your 5-day self-ban by banning you. If you wish to unban yourself, send a message to OnceDear over on the DT forum.

And by the way, I played single deck BJ for may years, counting cards and making changes in decisions based on cards seen. So, when you return, please constrain your posts to defining yourself rather than defining other people who you don't really know.
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Wellbush
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August 19th, 2021 at 9:06:22 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

it's just one more day in the life of a legend
mercilessly punishing those casinos that are foolish enough to deal cards to him

a legend in his own mind


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These are clear insults. Is anyone gonna do anything? If not, is it because the insults come from someone insulting a known believer? That would be clear bias.
All persons reading my posts gamble at their own risk, as I do. I don't ordinarily dispute math. I may dispute math I don't understand, or if I think it's faulty. I am not a conspiracy theorist.
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Thanks for this post from:
OnceDear
August 19th, 2021 at 9:09:44 AM permalink
Sounds more like praise to me. You're not just trying to make trouble are you?
Wellbush
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August 19th, 2021 at 9:19:56 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

While I appreciate this action, this is not the solution to THIS situation. Something more need be done.

Don't want to tell anyone how to do their "job", but might I suggest the moderator crew, get together and come to a better solution. My suggestion would be somehow restricting this member from making his comments of "always winning" and other unrealistic comments (like table minimum to table max spreads) in some of the legitimate gambling and AP discussions.



Why restrict the Dawg when he's just stating facts? He's come up trumps when witnessed, too. Maybe people don't like the facts?
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