Blackjack variance

Quote: MDawg

See the problem I have with the comments above is - that they are not substantive. They bring nothing to the table, other than wasting time stating "I don't believe the poster."

Instead of, "Oh man he couldn't be doing that" why not just say, hey it's risky to jump to table limit based on just the count. But, I'm doing more than just counting and I said so.

Hijacking.
14 days.

Quote: MDawg

I already challenged this one to a blackjack tournament of sorts - we meet at a table, and see who wins more. He declined.

I object to this nonsense too. I am a professional blackjack player. I play and make a living against the casinos of Las vegas and other areas (mostly Vegas). I am not interested in some sort of short term peeing contest against some person on an internet forum, making all kind of rediculous claims for the sake of building and stroking ego.

It is always the same people that want to engage in these contests, which always prove nothing because for 1), they are short term play when something like winning blackjack play (or even winning baccarat play) is a long term proposition and 2) often these silly wagers are set up in a way that has no resemblence to how actually winning play is done.

You might as well be betting that you can hit black 2 out of 3 spins on roulette as a way to prove a winning roulete system.

Please don't involve me with these nonsencical "challenges" again.

Quote: Dieter

Hijacking.
14 days.

While I appreciate this action, this is not the solution to THIS situation. Something more need be done.

Don't want to tell anyone how to do their "job", but might I suggest the moderator crew, get together and come to a better solution. My suggestion would be somehow restricting this member from making his comments of "always winning" and other unrealistic comments (like table minimum to table max spreads) in some of the legitimate gambling and AP discussions.

Quote: DogHand

kewlj,

A little over four years ago I posted (over at Norm's site) a method to compare two different counts side-by-side using Excel: see the last post on this page:

https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/showthread.php?38071-How-to-compare-plays-with-CVCX

Hope this helps!

Dog Hand

Dog hand, as you know, I am restricted at that site, and thus unable to log on to view your links to pictures and charts.

No need to email them to me, as I would probably have so many question, you would still need to spend time explaining.

What I will request is your brief expert synopsis. Will a level 1 and level 2 count identify most of the same situations and especially in regards to 6 and 8 deck shoe games? In single deck and double deck, I would assume count can matter a little more.

Quote: BoSox

KJ, this is a good time to perfectly tie in some subject matter that you recently spoke about. I am not sure which site this occurred at. That subject had to do with how to achieve longevity. Where you stated that the only way to achieve this is by playing very short sessions. Knowing that line was rather limited where I felt it needed further clarification, but dismissed the thought thinking that you were only referring to full-time play as from your perspective. We already know that certain areas of the country are not conducive for only playing short sessions and I can assure you that one can obtain some longevity outside of Las Vegas while also being successful and welcomed back while playing part-time while also not being limited to only playing short sessions. That is not easy to accomplish and back offs will and still do take place. Now I am not about to discuss my business but I will say it has plenty to do with what Moses firmly believes in and that is learning what is accepted and not overstepping your bounds.

Bosox, I am a fulltime player and I play (mostly) Las Vegas. Do I really need a disclaimer that says that is what my experiences and comments are in relation to?

I am specifically talking about a fulltime player, who plays regulary, almost everyday, and plays a home base location like Las Vegas and what is needed to acheive longevity.

Obviously part-time players have different logistics and should figure a game plan for what works for them.

Likewise, players that don't have the situation I have with many games in close proximity will need to have a plan of attack that works for their situation. I mean no one is going to drive an hour or 90 minutes to a casino, play a 15 minute session and walk out the door heading to the next location, as I am able to do. When I am traveling and in different situations, even I adjust my plan to meet those situations.

Everyone needs to figure out what works for them and their specific situation. I am simply sharing what works for me and my situation.
And I think the places I have shared that were a thread about a player possibly relocating to LAS VEGAS and a discussion elsewhere about my play in Las Vegas, so I don't know why you would think I need to issue some sort of disclaimer that my comments might not apply to other players in other situations.

Quote: BoSox

That is not easy to accomplish and back offs will and still do take place. Now I am not about to discuss my business but I will say it has plenty to do with what Moses firmly believes in and that is learning what is accepted and not overstepping your bounds.

Casino Tolerance?

🤔As I read this thread, I think: Thanks Don S for all your fine work and endless hours dedicated to the game of blackjack. Thanks Norm for your products that put me on the cutting edge to compete at a very difficult game. Thanks Wizard and LV Bear for information you have provided to make it easier to find fair games.

But it really wasn't necessary.😉 All a person needs is to live in Vegas, have a large bankroll, and a strong stomach. 😨 No?

This kind of statement (the last paragraph) is simply a continuing attempt to discredit me. That has been your thing for years now.

The facts are that 1.) I use Qfit products myself very regulary in comparing games and figuring my EV for different games and conditions.

2.) That I consider myself a student of Don Schlesinger. Do you know what the illustrious 18 was all about? It was about simplicity. Don was saying these 18 index plays captures 90% of the gain of using 100's of index plays. (diminishing returns). Furthermore, in recent years Don has stated, that while he plays a level 2 count RPC and uses 100+ index plays, if he were starting out today, with what he now knows and the games avallble today, he would learn and play a level 1 count like hi-lo and only use 18 index plays. You CAN'T get a better testamonial from an expert who knows, of what is important and works for today's games.

3.) I use primarily CBJN, which by the way is Stanford Wong's list of blackjack conditions, updated monthly, NOT LVBear's. Al Rogers only administers it, previously for Wong and now for the same company that owns this forum, who now owns BJ21. I also periodically look at Wizards listing when it used to be updated regularly just to see if there was anything I am missing. Frankly, since both lists are owned by the same company, I am surprised they have not been combined. But keep in mind the big difference, CBJN, has paid reporters that update conditions monthly. You pay a fee, but you pay that fee for acurate information and regular updates.

I work at what I do, and resent the dismissing and minimalizing of it to large bankroll and strong stomach.

Variance is a part of 6 and 8 deck shoe games and that is what Las Vegas is. You simply have never understood that because you don't play Las vegas, nor shoe games. There are plenty of other real players that share experiences of dealing with that variance, including a former member here, who is often critisized, even by me, about his rant's of losing and casinos cheating him. But the fact is he is sharing that very experience of variance....a bit over the top in my opinion , but that is what he is doing.

Quote: kewlj

Bosox, I am a fulltime player and I play (mostly) Las Vegas. Do I really need a disclaimer that says that is what my experiences and comments are in relation to?

I am specifically talking about a fulltime player, who plays regulary, almost everyday, and plays a home base location like Las Vegas and what is needed to acheive longevity.

Obviously part-time players have different logistics and should figure a game plan for what works for them.

Likewise, players that don't have the situation I have with many games in close proximity will need to have a plan of attack that works for their situation. I mean no one is going to drive an hour or 90 minutes to a casino, play a 15 minute session and walk out the door heading to the next location, as I am able to do. When I am traveling and in different situations, even I adjust my plan to meet those situations.

Everyone needs to figure out what works for them and their specific situation. I am simply sharing what works for me and my situation.
And I think the places I have shared that were a thread about a player possibly relocating to LAS VEGAS and a discussion elsewhere about my play in Las Vegas, so I don't know why you would think I need to issue some sort of disclaimer that my comments might not apply to other players in other situations.

The fact remains in one recent post you mentioned that the only way to achieve longevity is by playing short sessions. Sometimes you should be more specific about certain blackjack topics that does not actually pertain to your own situation. Thank you.

Quote: BoSox

The fact remains in one recent post you mentioned that the only way to achieve longevity is by playing short sessions. Sometimes you should be more specific about certain blackjack topics that does not actually pertain to your own situation. Thank you.

This is silly critisism, BoSox. I am speaking of my own experiences based on my situation. I am quite sure everyone recognises that.