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October 1st, 2020 at 5:30:07 PM permalink
Planet Hollywood is due to reopen in the next week. I think that only leaves Cromwell on the strip not open although I could be mistaken.

Downtown everything is open and has been since June 4 with the exception of the Boyd owned Main Street Station.

And then there is the Station Casinos, with Palms, Texas Station and both Fiesta's (Henderson and Rancho) still closed.

Seems strange that Texas Station and Fiesta Rancho which sit right next to each other are both still closed now 4 months after casinos reopened. I would have thought they would have opened one of them, but perhaps Stations wants out of that North Las Vegas area. There were rumors a while back of the Dotty's group buying Texas Station, but that has not materialized. I guess the one that makes the least sense to me is Palms. Stations dumped a lot of money into the Palms. There were rumors even before Covid came along that Palms wasn't fitting in to what they had planned and that the property was on the market. I don't know, just having it sit there deteriorating doesn't seem like it does much for property value.

Speaking of Palms, I almost forgot about Rio in the same area. Rio is still closed. That one doesn't surprise me. That too had been rumored long before Covid came along. That one may be for good.

Thoughts or info that I may not know?
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October 1st, 2020 at 6:05:23 PM permalink
I bet Cromwell opens back up after they quit filming that reality show there. I agree with you on the Palms. I know a little bit about litigation involving their closed club and DJ dispute. (Stupid owner). He may be keeping it closed so he can avoid paying due to a contract clause. But not sure. But high dollars involved.

Keeping Rio closed doesn't make any sense unless they are trying to get money together to renovate that place. Therefore waiting for better times to get better financing. Also since it was sold with a lease agreement for Caesars to operate it, maybe cheaper for them to keep it closed at moment until they know business will be better when Covid under control.
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October 1st, 2020 at 6:29:14 PM permalink
Is Eastside Cannery still closed? Would be sort of surprised theyíre back open. Boyd REALLY just destroyed that place property is less than 15 years old. The original Boyd casino Eldorado still closed but Iím assuming weíre just talking table games casinos here they havenít had them for like a half decade now. I could see Cromwell opening relatively soon but they may also be planning to wait until they are able to get some of their nightclub and dining revenue back.

Think I read Planet Hollywood hotel portion only open Thurs-Sunday. Werenít COVID shutdowns but Circa opens end of this month I believe casino but not hotel yet, Virgin the old Hard Rock set an opening date for January.
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October 1st, 2020 at 7:13:56 PM permalink
I forgot about Eastside Cannery. I believe it is still closed. What a fun little local casino until Boyd bought it and destroyed it. I just don't get why?
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October 1st, 2020 at 7:16:55 PM permalink
You canít beat 10x odds at the Cromwell

Not on the strip anyway
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October 2nd, 2020 at 7:22:37 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

I forgot about Eastside Cannery. I believe it is still closed. What a fun little local casino until Boyd bought it and destroyed it. I just don't get why?



Consolidate business to Sam's Town is my guess. May well just use EC for hotel overflow when it's really popping.

Total shame. Really fun little property when CCR was running it. Great value for casual gamblers and LV visitors.
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October 2nd, 2020 at 8:06:38 AM permalink
Has there been any talk of what will replace Sam Boyd stadium, the Silver Bowl, and all the space around them? An upscale housing community might revitalize that area and make The Boulder Strip into something it currently isn't.
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October 2nd, 2020 at 4:46:37 PM permalink
The Vegas demographics have changed dramatically. It's becoming an inner city ghetto. People aren't coming here to gamble as much. They're just coming here to get high. Even after the international flight restrictions are eased, foreigners won't feel safe here. I know I don't.
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October 3rd, 2020 at 6:45:25 AM permalink
Quote: Keyser

The Vegas demographics have changed dramatically. It's becoming an inner city ghetto. People aren't coming here to gamble as much. They're just coming here to get high. Even after the international flight restrictions are eased, foreigners won't feel safe here. I know I don't.

It's definitely become way more diverse, especially at some of the higher-end locations.
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October 3rd, 2020 at 11:32:49 AM permalink
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It's definitely become way more diverse, especially at some of the higher-end locations.



Axel, can you clarify what you're saying. Are you saying there is a wider spectrum of demographics at higher-end properties than mid and lower?

Also, on the note of Vegas becoming a bit "rougher" A friend of mine got mugged near TI early morning after the Stage Door drive-by shooting. I know Stage door was flooded with cops investigating. I wonder if the mugging was random, or an opportunistic mugging knowing half the cops were elsewhere. Anyhow, my friend escaped unscathed other than his wallet (credit cards, around $500) and phone taken from him. He said the biggest pain in the butt was trying to call all the CC companies to cancel his cards, and replacing his ID. Luckily his wife was asleep in the room and had her credit card and cash to use for the rest of the trip. He said he's done with Vegas until it's "back to normal." He doesn't think the current Vegas state, the vibe and the offerings are worth it to risk his life. I don't blame him. I also got a lot of similar sentiments from other friends who frequent Vegas. I hope things turn around soon.
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October 3rd, 2020 at 2:04:00 PM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

Axel, can you clarify what you're saying. Are you saying there is a wider spectrum of demographics at higher-end properties than mid and lower?

Also, on the note of Vegas becoming a bit "rougher" A friend of mine got mugged near TI early morning after the Stage Door drive-by shooting. I know Stage door was flooded with cops investigating. I wonder if the mugging was random, or an opportunistic mugging knowing half the cops were elsewhere. Anyhow, my friend escaped unscathed other than his wallet (credit cards, around $500) and phone taken from him. He said the biggest pain in the butt was trying to call all the CC companies to cancel his cards, and replacing his ID. Luckily his wife was asleep in the room and had her credit card and cash to use for the rest of the trip. He said he's done with Vegas until it's "back to normal." He doesn't think the current Vegas state, the vibe and the offerings are worth it to risk his life. I don't blame him. I also got a lot of similar sentiments from other friends who frequent Vegas. I hope things turn around soon.

In general since the pandemic there's seems to be a much more diverse tourist crowd here in Las Vegas.
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October 3rd, 2020 at 3:07:41 PM permalink
So to avoid the less savory crowd, the suggestions are?
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October 3rd, 2020 at 5:22:15 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

So to avoid the less savory crowd, the suggestions are?

Stay home (-;.

FYI. I personally never said or implied it was a "less savory crowd" there are just more minorities at the strip properties than before. I didn't even really notice until a few frequent visitors I know mentioned it, I too then took notice.
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October 3rd, 2020 at 6:31:31 PM permalink
It feels like we are talking in "code" here describing the make up of visitors. lol. Here's the thing, there is less air travel visitors coming into Vegas now. So what you have is more visitors driving in. That means Southern California. And forget about international visitors. That is way down. For example during winter months, we have huge numbers of Australian visitors escaping their summer. Not going to have that this year.

Off the strip / touristy areas, Las Vegas is a big city, just like other major cities it has good and bad areas or whatever label you want to put on them. You protect yourself by not putting yourself in the more dangerous areas that you don't need to be in, especially during certain times.

Same goes for the strip and nightclubs and all. Someone mentioned a friend that was mugged and robbed outside T.I. at 4 am. 3 or 4am, when all the nightclubs empty out, after the "patrons" have been drinking and doing god knows what drugs for hours on end, and then they spill out on to the streets, all carrying guns...Yeah that is when crazy shit happens. If you put yourself in those locations at that time, you are putting yourself in harms way.
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October 3rd, 2020 at 9:09:41 PM permalink
So for all of the ones that are open...is it easy to get a seat at a table given the person limits? More specifically, do you have to wait a while to get a seat at a blackjack table near or at a new shuffle? I have found this to be the case in other parts of the country. Some of the casinos Iíve been to didnít bring enough dealers back to meet demand when accounting for the limits. It kind of kills the hands per hour although once you get a seat the rounds are pretty quick since itís never a Ďfullí table.
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October 3rd, 2020 at 9:48:29 PM permalink
Quote: camz1969

So for all of the ones that are open...is it easy to get a seat at a table given the person limits? More specifically, do you have to wait a while to get a seat at a blackjack table near or at a new shuffle? I have found this to be the case in other parts of the country. Some of the casinos Iíve been to didnít bring enough dealers back to meet demand when accounting for the limits. It kind of kills the hands per hour although once you get a seat the rounds are pretty quick since itís never a Ďfullí table.



I think I was downtown on 2 different Saturday nights that I had to wait for a seat for a few minutes at a couple establishments and another night (I believe Friday) that I didn't get a seat at a local casino / brewery just off the strip. I left after about 15 minutes, Other than that I have been able to get a seat immediately and often times heads up or with one other player. I do a lot of my play on weekdays and daytime, specifically looking for the least crowded times though.
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October 8th, 2020 at 11:43:52 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

It feels like we are talking in "code" here describing the make up of visitors. lol.



Yep. We are indeed speaking in code here. We have to because we will booted if we aren't PC. LOL!

In short a more predatory, violent and dangerous minority group has taken over the strip. Crime, drugs, and violence often follows them.
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October 8th, 2020 at 12:24:55 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

Yep. We are indeed speaking in code here. We have to because we will booted if we aren't PC. LOL!

In short a more predatory, violent and dangerous minority group has taken over the strip. Crime, drugs, and violence often follows them.



Yeah, I heard there is a major opioid crisis amongst white youth these days
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October 8th, 2020 at 1:18:50 PM permalink
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Yeah, I heard there is a major opioid crisis amongst white youth these days



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October 8th, 2020 at 7:00:23 PM permalink
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It's definitely become way more diverse, especially at some of the higher-end locations.



I wouldn't call it diverse to be honest..............here is a portion of my recent trip report to the Strip past week and weekend from another forum:

"Ok just returned late yesterday from a trip to Vegas. Stayed on the Strip. General Feel: Crowds seemed back to normal per my estimation. Especially on weekend. I think what a lot of people have said (who lived there or frequent there) about the current crowds or patrons is right. It's not quite the typical crowd. I would actually categorize it more as a lower element LA crowd. Maybe it's the lower cost of the hotel rooms? Maybe not and it's because that clientele can drive v. fly into Vegas easily. Parking garages on weekend were FULL. Free parking at most now."

While it may not be "ghetto", it's definitely not the feel of the past.
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October 9th, 2020 at 10:41:26 AM permalink
Kewlj, one more question...I have a friend that just got to Vegas last night and he is saying all of the 3/2 tables he's seen on the strip are $50+ mins even during the day. Have you seen this as well? He said the $25 and below he has seen are 6/5 and the sad part is there are lines for those tables. Again this is just on the strip but still...not good in my opinion.
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October 9th, 2020 at 11:21:16 AM permalink
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October 9th, 2020 at 1:16:16 PM permalink
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Hooters made the decision to convert all its blackjack tables to 6-5 in 2017. This includes video blackjack. For this reason, we recommend playing elsewhere.


Hooters casino was sold over a year ago. It is now OYO casino and blackjack pays 3-2 on all $10 and above tables.
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October 9th, 2020 at 4:35:25 PM permalink
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The Vegas demographics have changed dramatically. It's becoming an inner city ghetto. People aren't coming here to gamble as much. They're just coming here to get high. Even after the international flight restrictions are eased, foreigners won't feel safe here. I know I don't.



I was in town September 24th to 28th. The smell of weed was pretty rampant on the strip. Finding a table was very easy to gamble on. When I ventured off strip and into town I felt the panhandlers were very brazen. They would walk up to you and ask for money rather than posting up. Now I wasn't in the nicest area of town either but I live in a town with plenty of panhandlers and they are not nearly as brazen here.
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October 9th, 2020 at 5:44:50 PM permalink
I think the Longhorn did away with its tables
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October 11th, 2020 at 10:33:20 AM permalink
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I was in town September 24th to 28th. The smell of weed was pretty rampant on the strip. Finding a table was very easy to gamble on. When I ventured off strip and into town I felt the panhandlers were very brazen. They would walk up to you and ask for money rather than posting up. Now I wasn't in the nicest area of town either but I live in a town with plenty of panhandlers and they are not nearly as brazen here.



In texas. Panhandlers will occasionally knock on my window when I'm in a parking lot.

I was pumping gas and one asked me to transport suitcases to another city that crosses a border patrol checkpoint. After he asked for money.

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October 12th, 2020 at 12:16:25 PM permalink
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In texas. Panhandlers will occasionally knock on my window when I'm in a parking lot.

I was pumping gas and one asked me to transport suitcases to another city that crosses a border patrol checkpoint. After he asked for money.

The homeless tents Under the bridges are growing in Austin.


I was pumping gas at a TX station last week.
I finished up and was doing my typical walk around my RV and truck to make sure everything ok.
An old car pulls up to me filled with 2 in front and 3 in the back. People had a gypsy look. Women from car said she needs help and is holding out a ring that looks gold.
"We need money. Here, I have a ring for you"
Me"where you from"
Her "Dubai, I know. Rich country but we need help"
Looked at the back plates, Illonois
Weird
I gave her 10 dollar bill and did not touch that ring due to virus.

I thought it weird they said from Dubai. A scammer would mention a poorer country, maybe not. Maybe I was scammed. Only 10 bucks. Got a soft heart
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October 12th, 2020 at 1:05:56 PM permalink
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I gave her 10 dollar bill and did not touch that ring due to virus.

I thought it weird they said from Dubai. A scammer would mention a poorer country, maybe not. Maybe I was scammed. Only 10 bucks. Got a soft heart



I wouldn't call that a scam. You gave someone $10 that was claiming to be needy. It was a good gesture.
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October 12th, 2020 at 2:55:14 PM permalink
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I wouldn't call that a scam. You gave someone $10 that was claiming to be needy. It was a good gesture.


Another incident at a TX gas station.
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Anyway a white middle aged guy in a car stops by me. Looked desperate. He said he is making a long drive trying to visit his sick mother. He said his brief case got stolen out of his car with his money. He said whatever I could help with, he would pay me back. I gave him a 20 dollar bill.
He asked for my address
I told him to pay it forward
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October 12th, 2020 at 3:42:57 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

I was pumping gas at a TX station last week.
I finished up and was doing my typical walk around my RV and truck to make sure everything ok.
An old car pulls up to me filled with 2 in front and 3 in the back. People had a gypsy look. Women from car said she needs help and is holding out a ring that looks gold.
"We need money. Here, I have a ring for you" m

If they'd been Gypsy's, the ring would still had the finger attached.

j/k
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October 14th, 2020 at 4:44:41 AM permalink
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Vegas is getting more dangerous. I guess legalizing dope didn't work huh? Geez, who would have thunk it???



We always hear how much better Vegas was when the Outfit was running things. One thing that was not tolerated back then was street crime. They wanted people to feel safe

Metal detectors and security are supposed to make people "feel safe." But do you feel safe if the place needs all that? Reminds me of a prom I worked and the teacher said how "good" their kids were. My reaction in my mind was one of "yeah, that is why the metal detector and security carrying a Glock 9mm sidearm."

Might some of this be the nightclub element? On "Bar Rescue" they did a save on some hip-hop club and security was emphasized. Taffer said it was a sad reality but that kind of place attracted violence.
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October 14th, 2020 at 8:54:46 AM permalink
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Vegas is getting more dangerous. I guess legalizing dope didn't work huh?


I dont think there is any connection
Its the virus, not pot lol

On the flip side, weird travelling through red state Oklahoma that is really pro pot
Never seen so many pot stores in my life.
Everywhere
Crime going up in OK? LOL
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October 15th, 2020 at 1:29:30 AM permalink
Looks like Encore is going the other way (shutting down). Beginning Monday, Oct 19, Encore will only be open from 2pm Thursdays until noon on Mondays until things pick up. That is casino, hotel restaurants.

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