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Quote: sevencard2003if i visited reno would i be asked for ID anywhere now? being over 50 im normally never asked. only reason im concerned is mine expired the end of march and cant be replaced right now, its a long story. thinking of moving back to reno from houston.
If you play an amount that would generate a CTR you will be required to show a government ID that is not expired. Most casinos will not pay you until you show it.
Quote: sevencard2003if i visited reno would i be asked for ID anywhere now? being over 50 im normally never asked. only reason im concerned is mine expired the end of march and cant be replaced right now, its a long story. thinking of moving back to reno from houston.
I live in Reno and I have never nor my friends been asked for ID to enter a casino or play. Unless you look like you are under 21, then you will regardless if you are playing or not. Only time you need ID is to sign up for a players card or redeem a promotion. ID required if you need to conduct a cash transaction that the feds require or to fill out a W2G. I rarely carry my ID as well. No law against it unless Im flying ir driving.
Quote: sevencard2003i was told the TSA is accepting an expired ID to fly right now until the coronavirus ends.
You would think since that is on a federal level, the casinos would also accept an expired ID under the same circumstances. You could always call the gaming commission to be sure. We have people driving with expired tags and registrations on our public streets, same situation and that is on a state level. Our DMV is opening up next week, can't imagine what kind of backlog and zoo it will be to an already messed up system we have in Nev.
Quote: Vegasridercan't imagine what kind of backlog and zoo it will be to an already messed up system we have in Nev.
I renewed my license the first week in March, just before everything shut down. I wasn't trying to beat the shutdown, it is just when it was due and I got lucky. I went online Sunday night, made an appointment for 11:45 on Tuesday and think I was at the DMV a total of about 9 minutes, and that included getting picture taken. It was the best experience I have ever had at the DMV. I am sure things will be really different (backed up) when they re-open.
Quote: kewljI renewed my license the first week in March, just before everything shut down. I wasn't trying to beat the shutdown, it is just when it was due and I got lucky. I went online Sunday night, made an appointment for 11:45 on Tuesday and think I was at the DMV a total of about 9 minutes, and that included getting picture taken. It was the best experience I have ever had at the DMV. I am sure things will be really different (backed up) when they re-open.
Speaking of DMV, I get a story to tell too. I went thru the whole 9 yards, and when I came to make the renewal payment at the cashier, I couldn't find my credit card. Then I recalled I purchased some grocery days before with my credit card. I called the grocery owner to see if she found my card. Yes, she did find and keep it. I went there to pick it with a happy ending.
Quote: Armagedden...with a happy ending.
There is no experience in my lifetime that has ever ended that way. At least not with a credit card.
Quote: ArmageddenSpeaking of DMV, I get a story to tell too. I went thru the whole 9 yards, and when I came to make the renewal payment at the cashier, I couldn't find my credit card. Then I recalled I purchased some grocery days before with my credit card. I called the grocery owner to see if she found my card. Yes, she did find and keep it. I went there to pick it with a happy ending.
Was it really a grocery store or a massage parlor?
Quote: sevencard2003none of my slot or blackjack bets would be big enough to bring this into play. and i spend most of my time playing poker. in a few months ill be able to get a new ID once i have a stable long term address and verification of my US citizenship. i know i have it since i was 1 yr old, just cant provide proof.
Even if asked I am sure they are aware that many States are allowing you to use expired IDs as valid. Here in IL the DMV just opened up last week. You are only allowed to go if your ID is expired or you are renewing plates. I have heard of lines exceeding 6 hours, and it doesn't help that my local DMV was set on fire during the protests/looting/rioting and will not open for at least 2 to 3 months. Police are looking the other way on expired plates, expired licenses etc due to the circumstances, I cannot envision why casinos would not
Because casinos are idiots. I don't know, maybe there's some special gaming regulation that I'm unaware of that says they can be fined if someone has an expired ID?Quote: Gabes22Even if asked I am sure they are aware that many States are allowing you to use expired IDs as valid. Here in IL the DMV just opened up last week. You are only allowed to go if your ID is expired or you are renewing plates. I have heard of lines exceeding 6 hours, and it doesn't help that my local DMV was set on fire during the protests/looting/rioting and will not open for at least 2 to 3 months. Police are looking the other way on expired plates, expired licenses etc due to the circumstances, I cannot envision why casinos would not
There have been multiple instances where casino will not accept an expired ID even when it's accompanied by the paperwork you get from the DMV stating it's to be used with your expired ID. 🤷♂️
Quote: AxelWolfBecause casinos are idiots. I don't know, maybe there's some special gaming regulation that I'm unaware of that says they can be fined if someone has an expired ID?
There have been multiple instances where casino will not accept an expired ID even when it's accompanied by the paperwork you get from the DMV stating it's to be used with your expired ID. 🤷♂️
Well if they do act that stupid, thankfully I have 2 forms of ID on me at all times. Not too long ago if you got pulled over in IL, the police would confiscate your DL until your court date and your fine was either paid or dismissed, and you could then drive on the ticket until the court date. But you could not use said ticket to buy beer or liquor so I always had a State ID in addition to the DL in case I got a speeding ticket
Four winds in New Buffalo, MI opens on June 15. Same rules for masks and no smoking.
Quote: Gabes22Police are looking the other way on expired plates, expired licenses etc due to the circumstances,
Do you know this for a Fact? As in, someone on the force told you? Or are you just speculating?
I only ask, because a family member's vehicle registration is expired and they don't want to drive and get caught.
I'd Lay the 6 but so many people use the hard 6 as a dice set when they throw, so I'll avoid that.
Quote: BedWetterBetterDo you know this for a Fact? As in, someone on the force told you? Or are you just speculating?
I only ask, because a family member's vehicle registration is expired and they don't want to drive and get caught.
That, in IL at least, is based upon a Governor's order. Expired licenses and plates have either 60 or 90 days from reopening of the DMV to get back to compliance. For instance with shut down in mid March, expired March, April and May plates are viewed as compliant until at least July 31
Quote: ThisIsMyJamWhat are table minimums like in Reno? Carnival games open? Debating driving to Reno or flying to Vegas.
What games do you like to play?
Only having two is for newbs 😉Quote: Gabes22Well if they do act that stupid, thankfully I have 2 forms of ID on me at all times. Not too long ago if you got pulled over in IL, the police would confiscate your DL until your court date and your fine was either paid or dismissed, and you could then drive on the ticket until the court date. But you could not use said ticket to buy beer or liquor so I always had a State ID in addition to the DL in case I got a speeding ticket
I saw that on Twitter and I got triggered after noticing how much crap was on his machine, how can you possibly play video poker or whatever with all that s*** in front of you? So then I realized, it's probably fake/ /setup.Quote: gamerfreakPrime “New Vegas” video
https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/gzqfyp/health_safety_first_please/
I have taken a few people to play video poker for me on occasion. People that haven't played all that much. I notice most of them end up putting their drink directly in front of them on the machine. They then extend their elbows out with their fingers on the buttons creating a large Circle around their drink. That makes me uncomfortable just watching them do that. I'm like, "please do me a favor, move that drink to the left as far as possible or to the right as far as possible, it's going to be very unnatural to play video poker like that, it's most definitely going to slow you down, and you have a chance of knocking the drink over(as if I've never knocked a drink over 🤣).
Green Valley Ranch
Structured entrance corral with a stop required in front a thermal scanner (for temperature). They also required a lowering of a face mask if you are wearing one. I was wearing one. No plastic dividers at the Sportsbook, they were wiping down the counter after every guest, and they ask you for your loyalty card number (instead of swiping it). Hand Sanitizer stations all over.
M Resort
Walked right in. There is a sign asking you to lower your mask when you enter (for security). Pretty quiet in the William Hill run sportsbook. No printed sheets available with odds/entries/props etc. One staff member suggested using the WH app for all that information.
Southpoint
Walked right in. Hand sanitizer stations available. Plastic shields between bet takers at the race and sportsbook. Half the seats removed from the race and sportsbook. Printed sheets available with odds/entries/props etc. Poker room was open but I did not get close enough to give any details.
I only spent maybe 10-15 minutes in each location to make a few wagers (sports/horses) and see what was going on. Most (if not all) employees were wearing masks. I would guess the majority of gamblers were not wearing masks. Plenty of smoking going on and I had to dodge a few smoke plumes walking around. I did not use any restrooms, so no worries for me about "fecal mist" (shoutout to Rigondeaux). I visited before noon at all the locations. Parking lots looked like it was 3am the week before Thanksgiving or Xmas (maybe 25% full). I did not go into the table games areas at any location.
Quote: kewlj
So that is my initial assessment. We'll see how it shakes out.
Update: So of the 31 casinos in my playing rotation prior to the shutdown, 4 remain closed and one has not resumed table games yet. I have visited the other 26, twice now playing and checking on conditions and overall for me, the post shutdown conditions are more favorable.
Some changes in games from dealt face down, player holding cards to face up, shoe games have increases my playable games by 3, where as I didn't lose any playable games. Penetration is worse in several places, but still playable. Hopefully that will return to pre-shutdown levels after they get comfortable.
And just the change in format to 3 player is beneficial to me. While many blackjack players prefer heads up play, my preference is 1 or 2 other players. The reason being that I aggressively exit games on negative counts. When you aggressively exit playing heads up, the game stops and all attention is on your exit. With at least 1 other player the game continues and your exit draws less attention. So a total of 3 players or less, actually creates more of the situation that I prefer.
Higher table minimum are also working to my advantage. As a green minimum bettor, I always had the option to play green minimum AND red chip tables. But playing Red chip usually meant a slower game with more players than I like. The higher limits along with limit of 3 players creates more games for me.
And finally, I have found playable games at 2 casinos that previously were unplayable by my standards. This also is a result of games being switched to face up show games. There likely are more that I haven't discovered yet. I am going to have to check all the places not previously in my rotation and that will take a little time.
So overall, conditions post shutdown are more favorable for me and my style of play. Again, that grade is still a bit incomplete as I have a total of 5 casinos that have not re-opened or opened table games yet.
Quote: VegasriderWhat games do you like to play?
We play UTH, three card, blackjack, and a little Pai Gow. We also play Mississippi Stud but we know no one has it in Reno.
Quote: KilroyJust returned from Firekeepers in Battle Creek, MI. No smoking and masks are required. If you don't have a mask they will give you one. Temperature check before you enter. All table games are $15 minimum until they open to 100% capacity. Cards are dealt face down and the players can handle them. Three players at BJ. The craps tables weren't full, but the $15 min is too rich for me. I played the bubble craps. Some slots are shut down and a lot of chairs are gone. They had extra cleaners making the rounds wiping everything.
Four winds in New Buffalo, MI opens on June 15. Same rules for masks and no smoking.
I didn’t realize Firekeepers was open already! I may have to make a trip soon.
I already see a huge difference between last week and this week at the few casinos I have actually been at.
It's a small sample size, so who knows.
I welcome all comments.
Direct: https://youtu.be/GmwDA_iCPSo
I don't remember seeing any metal detectors at either of the side streets, Third Street, or Casino Center, so you could enter off those streets without passing through a metal detector. I haven't yet made it up to the Plaza to know if there are detectors there or not. But at best there are detectors at maybe at the two ends of Fremont street experience, but none of the side street entrances. Makes no sense to me. ??
Quote: WizardI welcome all comments.
People are so stupid. Get ready for virus surge, round 2.
Quote: 21formePeople are so stupid. Get ready for virus surge, round 2.
I have to agree with you 21forme. Throughout the shutdown all we kept hearing here in Las Vegas is when can casinos open? I mean that IS the economy in this town. And the answer is/was well IF we do this and that, and the other then maybe we could open with "reasonable" risk. But the problem is people haven't done this, that and the other. They went right back to the behavior pre-shutdowm, like this virus never happened.
In my mind there has to be a coming spike, I guess in about 2 more weeks. And the ;problem with any kind of spike involving Las Vegas and casinos is that it involves not only people here, but visitors that then take the virus back home with them.
Now, I will admit, having had the virus, recovered, built antibodies and donated antibodies, I feel and am hoping I am somewhat protected, although there is some uncertainty about that. So I have been willing to get back out there, trying to jump back into my pre-shutdown life. In other words, taking on ,ore risk than I would have, had I not had the virus. Maybe that will turn out to be a big mistake. ??
I mean how hard is it to wear a mask? Yet every report says less than 20% are doing do. ???
I couldn't imagine getting on a plane now, but I'm not one of the brain-dead, no-mask people. As Don S likes to say, there are many more horse's asses than horses.
Quote: 21formeWhat do you think the breakdown of people in the LV casinos is, tourist vs. local?
I couldn't imagine getting on a plane now, but I'm not one of the brain-dead, no-mask people. As Don S likes to say, there are many more horse's asses than horses.
It is mostly locals, especially most places I play. Downtown and the Strip have some out of town visitors but only a small fraction of normal times and I suspect most of them are driving in from California and other nearby states as opposed to flying.
Super majority of “rules” are merely guidelines set up by gaming control. These guys are not health experts nor are the experts they use much more than hired hands who aren’t going to rock the boat.
Vegas thrives on the guy coming in with bankroll and they aren’t going to upset him by possibly singling him out for guideline breaking....whether that is bringing his child to Fremont Street or any other rule he wants to break. I saw a woman at the tables where masks are required...removing her mask to take a puff. Gimme a break. Rules. Pffft.
The whole thing is a farce. If they were serious about protection....masks would be required and smoking would be banned, at least initially until we see what happens with a spike or not.
Rules or guidelines? Which is it?
Most likely the lawyers on gaming control pushed for the term “guideline“....meaning they know a guideline is more advice rather than hard and solid rule.
Quote: kewljI don't remember seeing any metal detectors at either of the side streets, Third Street, or Casino Center, so you could enter off those streets without passing through a metal detector. I haven't yet made it up to the Plaza to know if there are detectors there or not. But at best there are detectors at maybe at the two ends of Fremont street experience, but none of the side street entrances. Makes no sense to me. ??
Yes, if one wanted to bring in guns or a bomb, it would be so easy to do it through a back casino entrance. Right now there are sets of metal detectors on each side of 2nd Street, Casino Center, and Third street, and one set each on First Street and Fourth Street.
In my opinion, Fremont Street is just too busy with too many street crossings to secure.
Quote: 21formeWhat do you think the breakdown of people in the LV casinos is, tourist vs. local?
As kewlj wrote, it depends on the casino. On the Strip or downtown, I'd say 15%. Far off the strip, like a Stations casino (not counting the Palms), is going to be more like 60%.
https://mccarran.com/Flights/Arrivals
but lots of flights out of LA
I usually enjoy your videos and am especially interested in this particular subject so I started with great interest and was bored by the 321 mark. Tried fast-forwarding a bit but couldn't get into it. I kept waiting for you to juggle some Rubiks cubes while unicycling or something.
It seems that the United States has determined that the best way to avoid a second wave is to ensure the first wave never ends.
Quote: TDVegasTypical Vegas....live and let live.
Super majority of “rules” are merely guidelines set up by gaming control. These guys are not health experts nor are the experts they use much more than hired hands who aren’t going to rock the boat.
Vegas thrives on the guy coming in with bankroll and they aren’t going to upset him by possibly singling him out for guideline breaking....whether that is bringing his child to Fremont Street or any other rule he wants to break. I saw a woman at the tables where masks are required...removing her mask to take a puff. Gimme a break. Rules. Pffft.
The whole thing is a farce. If they were serious about protection....masks would be required and smoking would be banned, at least initially until we see what happens with a spike or not.
Rules or guidelines? Which is it?
Most likely the lawyers on gaming control pushed for the term “guideline“....meaning they know a guideline is more advice rather than hard and solid rule.
LOL. I think, to sum things up for Gaming Control: If guidelines make money, then consider them rules. If rules don't make money, then consider them guidelines.
There's a certain symmetry to that, dontcha think?
Quote: billryanSince you asked for comments....
I usually enjoy your videos and am especially interested in this particular subject so I started with great interest and was bored by the 321 mark. Tried fast-forwarding a bit but couldn't get into it. I kept waiting for you to juggle some Rubiks cubes while unicycling or something.
It seems that the United States has determined that the best way to avoid a second wave is to ensure the first wave never ends.
That's a clever, cogent way of putting it. Mind if I borrow that? I give credit where credit is due, but without a real name, I guess I just say "billryan at WoV."
Quote: kewlj
I mean how hard is it to wear a mask? Yet every report says less than 20% are doing do. ???
Generally not hard BUT it depends on how long you’re wearing it. The one time I was indoors at the same place for 5-6 hours wearing a mask my ears actually hurt after a few hours kinda bad and it was quite uncomfortable, found myself taking one end off periodically and putting it back to get a little relief for last couple hours. On and off with it going in and out not a problem but the constant pressure on your ears while wearing for an extended period I found to be more of a problem than you’d think.
Quote: coilmanI like to look at the airport arrivals and departures to get a feel how busy they are with tourists . Detroit area isn't feeling the lov of Vegas just yet .....only two flights leaving there the rest of today and its only 11 am in Vegas.
https://mccarran.com/Flights/Arrivals
but lots of flights out of LA
I noticed that most of the nonstops to LV out of Tennessee are gone (did not check Memphis -- too far). Knoxville and Nashville previously had some nonstops, but almost extinct now. Allegiant has some twice a week from Knoxville, so that's a good thing. Some of the main carriers send you east to Charlotte first. That's a waste of time and pain in the ass.
Quote: mcallister3200Generally not hard BUT it depends on how long you’re wearing it. The one time I was indoors at the same place for 5-6 hours wearing a mask my ears actually hurt after a few hours kinda bad and it was quite uncomfortable, found myself taking one end off periodically and putting it back to get a little relief for last couple hours. On and off with it going in and out not a problem but the constant pressure on your ears while wearing for an extended period I found to be more of a problem than you’d think.
I only wear a mask a few times a week. Most of my day, it's just me and my dog, both at work and at home. Im yet to reach a comfort zone with them. I'm told you get used to them after a few days if you wear them all day.
Quote: redietzThat's a clever, cogent way of putting it. Mind if I borrow that? I give credit where credit is due, but without a real name, I guess I just say "billryan at WoV."
It's not an original thought. No credit due or desired.
Quote: 21formePeople are so stupid. Get ready for virus surge, round 2.
The covid19 is the worst assassin of the nature so far, and the "Survival of the fittest" calls for the smartest people to flourish and the stupidest people to die out.
The wearing of a N95facemask is the best solution against the worst assassin inside casinos (or hospitals). Folks, folks, folks, please adapt to wear a n95facemask, or die by covid19. Keep in mind...Survival of the Fittest is just another facts of life.
I understand the one-for-all all-for-one rationale for why I should wear a mask and how wearing one perhaps influences others to do the same, but from a purely selfish point of view, isn't, for example, making sure that I never touch my face with my hands until I get back to my room - isn't that a better rule to focus on?
If the COVID-positive cook, waitress, bartender, busboy or other person who is handling my food or the plate it's served on is not wearing a mask, isn't that person someone more to worry about?
As a tourist, I just booked my annual September trip to downtown - free nights and very low airfares. Forty-eight hour cancellation privileges on the room, one hour before departure on the plane.
Between now and then I will listen to the advice, medical and otherwise, that I read here to decide whether or not to cancel. It can be whatever number of wave they want to call it, and they can be requirements or guidelines. In the end, it will be up to me.
