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June 1st, 2020 at 9:45:25 AM permalink
Hi all,

There are some quite polar and potentially controversial opinions and the rights and wrongs of business openings and of social distancing practices, generally.

Let's not stray into arguing our opinions of those rights and wrongs and try to stay on the more practical assessment of if or when venues might open... regardless of whether we have an opinion of if they should or not.

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June 1st, 2020 at 10:06:25 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Las Vegas has about 1/2 the number of police as Los Angeles, which is pretty good for the amount of area coverage.



LA has historically had a pretty small police force. I was stunned the first time I drove down Hollywood Blvd. It's LA's equivalent of Times Square and not a cop in sight.
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June 1st, 2020 at 10:38:17 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Las Vegas has about 1/2 the number of police as Los Angeles, which is pretty good for the amount of area coverage.

In addition, few police departments, except for maybe New York and possibly the District of Columbia, have as much experience with crowd management as Southern Nevada agencies.
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June 1st, 2020 at 10:45:18 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

So with all the curfews in place where are all the people yelling they refuse to be locked down? When the stay at home orders are to protect from riots it's okay. But not from the Coronavirus?

Lyndon Johnson didn't have to declare martial law in '68. When superior Conarc troops and firepower from Fort Lee showed up in Anacostia, it was more than abundantly clear who was in control and what would happen in any event. That was, of course, when the next building to be burned down was the district building.
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June 1st, 2020 at 12:07:11 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Yeah, f*** it, let's just let everybody do what they want anytime they want. 😒



Absolutely. But what happens when one person wants to do something that interferes with what another person wants to do?

For example: I want to drink clean water. But someone else wants to dump toxic waste into Lake Mead. Who gets to do what they want?
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June 1st, 2020 at 12:28:28 PM permalink
My daughter lives in the Longfellow neighborhood in Minnesota - her house is about 200 feet from where the rioting was in the Third precinct on Thursday and Friday nights. So, my wife and I have been following every news source for about 4 days.

1. First let me say that the video of the police killing George Floyd is horrific. How many people (black and white) are killed by law enforcement that are not taped by cellphones?

(My source for the following was what the Minnesota police reportedly told my family members and other leaders of the Longfellow community. There are now denials and all sorts of politically-charged claims being made on public media. I did not mean to post on a political topic. )
2. There is a private paramilitary organization- funded by a certain octogenarian billionaire who is rabidly anti-police -which has mobilized "professional agitators" to Minneapolis, and several other major cities. They are stirring the protestors up into mobs and organizing some of the violence in the riots. (The Minneapolis police found several bombs planted over the weekend.) You can recognize these paramilitary protestors on the video footage and streaming video of the protests - they are young white men wearing all black with backpacks. Law enforcement at all levels has been coordinating across the country on countermeasures as of Sunday.

So, the riots are a mixture of righteous anger and opportunistic looting, but something entirely different also appears to be going on. The authorities understand the "privately funded protestor" issue now and it is being dealt with.

So, I think the worst violence in the protesting will fade away pretty quickly. Of course, the underlying issues and the anger will remain.
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June 1st, 2020 at 1:00:41 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

Absolutely. But what happens when one person wants to do something that interferes with what another person wants to do?

For example: I want to drink clean water. But someone else wants to dump toxic waste into Lake Mead. Who gets to do what they want?

I guess you'll have go somewhere else and find clean water.

I certainly hope everyone could tell my statement was sarcasm. IMHO we need to crush the rioters and looters via martial law.
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June 1st, 2020 at 1:25:52 PM permalink
I think that I'll steer this thread onto the original topic and say that they're going to open on 6/4. There's certainly enough opions on the riots to start another thread.

As far as the re-openings go, is anyone getting any decent offers to return? I'm not.
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June 1st, 2020 at 2:09:04 PM permalink
Quote: Lovecomps



As far as the re-openings go, is anyone getting any decent offers to return? I'm not.



I have gotten offers from 3 casinos (or chains) so far. In March I had 12, which is down from a few years ago when I played machines more and used to get 2 dozen. In March I had 2 properties that I was at the top of my cycle, meaning getting my top offers from. (My offers cycle down for a few months until I reset with a big play.)

So one of the locations that I was at the top of my cycle (about $800 fp/month) sent out an email in March saying when they opened I would receive similar amounts that I was receiving in March. So far I have received nothing from those top 2. :(
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June 1st, 2020 at 2:13:29 PM permalink
Morongo, CA is giving me about what I was getting before, except what used to be 4x/mo is converted to 2x/mo. Except they started cutting me off for some reason despite no change in play, so... whatever. Everything else in CA has been silent... I'm waiting on seeing what San Manuel is going to do though, since they're the closest to an urban center in my area. I did notice that Rincon was the first to start handing out junk again though... Swarovski, anybody?

Riverside, Laughlin has gone up slightly... everything else in Laughlin has either gone down or not said anything.

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