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standbymyman
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April 13th, 2020 at 8:43:20 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

For a document, you could use a special edition dollar bill. No document will have a better anti-counterfeiting option. Print "Not for legal tender" on both sides in big letters. If you get one you have proof of vaccination.

We do special edition coins, so I see no reason for bills being excluded.

You don't even need to make a database once you have these. You might need to print a few more unusual things on them making them unique, like unique serial number, image.

If it gets stolen, you'll just have to go get vaccinated again and then be more careful.




And the great part is a family of five could get by with just one vaccination. Just use the voucher 1 at a time.
FleaStiff
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April 13th, 2020 at 8:50:58 AM permalink
Well the North had a Commissariat that officially was responsible for sanitary food preparation in the field the South simply expected units to live off the land. Beware statistics though, while the South was starving they often tried to feed prisoners at Andersonville but in the North at Elmira, NY amidst bountiful harvests, Confederates died of starvation in alarming numbers. The Mennonites or perhaps the Society of Friends sent a wagon load of fresh fruits and vegetables to Andersonville and the Commandant turned them away. The people of Atlanta ate all the grass during the seige andwere so weak that they no longer had strength to form burial parties.
billryan
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April 13th, 2020 at 8:56:56 AM permalink
In the 1990s, I bought a building that had an asbestos problem. I hired a company that told me all their workers were fully certified in asbestos removal.
The day comes and two Hispanics who look like they are 15 show up. I was dubious so I asked for their certifications. Turned out one of them was a Polish immigrant named Stanlius Ruchalski and the other was from Kenya.
How long before these vaccination certificates are available on eBay?
TigerWu
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April 13th, 2020 at 9:00:27 AM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

2025 is when the casinos will open.



Casinos will be open later this year.

Quote: billryan

I am currently doing extensive research on Civil War Artillery units. One unit I finished off about a week ago had zero combat deaths, but 26 die from disease. Of the almost 600,000 Americans who died in the conflict, about half were killed in combat, the rest died of illnesses.



The Wiki page on this is interesting. Up until WWII, the vast majority of wartime deaths for the US military in major conflicts were non-combat related (accidents, disease, etc.). From WWII and after, the majority of deaths were from combat. Here's a few facts I thought were pretty interesting:

Only 8,000 people died in combat in the Revolutionary War.

Twice as many Union soldiers as Confederate soldiers were killed in combat in the Civil War.

The Iraq War is the seventh deadliest war for US combat deaths, beating out the War in Afghanistan and the War of 1812, and coming in right behind the Revolutionary War.

More soldiers died in combat in WWII than the Civil War.

The deaths per day stuff is interesting, too:

On average, 520 soldiers died per day during the Civil War.

Four times as many soldiers died per day in the Korean War vs. the Vietnam War.

The Vietnam War and the Revolutionary war had the same average number of soldier deaths per day: 11.

Quote: darkoz


Check out this sad tragedy https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/health/new-jersey-coronavirus-family-members-killed/index.html

7 sick and 4 dead SAME FAMILY



I don't know how to put this any more politely but that entire family is very obese. That had to have been a driving factor in their deaths.
rawtuff
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April 13th, 2020 at 12:15:47 PM permalink
South Korea and their approach to the outbreak:





Of course different countries won't be able to follow exactly in their foot steps due to many many factors, but it's worth taking a lesson from their fast, accurate and serious approach. They didn't even have to lockdown nationwide.
unJon
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April 13th, 2020 at 3:54:02 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

In the 1990s, I bought a building that had an asbestos problem. I hired a company that told me all their workers were fully certified in asbestos removal.
The day comes and two Hispanics who look like they are 15 show up. I was dubious so I asked for their certifications. Turned out one of them was a Polish immigrant named Stanlius Ruchalski and the other was from Kenya.
How long before these vaccination certificates are available on eBay?

If everyone has the vaccine available to them, and the only people that don’t get the vaccine are those competent adults that choose not to and instead buy a fake certificate, then oh well. They are risking their own health, and the fines and other penalties that may be imposed by a government if caught.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
gordonm888
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April 13th, 2020 at 6:57:01 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I agree

However the mayor of Amityville was unable to prevent the inevitable. Why? Failure to listen to the experts and an unwillingness to let go of the economic reins. Eventually he lost because the danger was real.

The stores of Amityville stood open but no customers were gonna come to that beach anymore. So the economy remaining open didn't matter.

Check out this sad tragedy https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/health/new-jersey-coronavirus-family-members-killed/index.html

7 sick and 4 dead SAME FAMILY

Once things like that sweep across an (opened) America, that opened economy will be worthless

Even on this forum people are discussing if they feel safe going back to the casinos etc. When death and mayhem shoot skyhigh, that's it baby. Economy over



You may choose to focus on this family, but for every family like this there must be a million families that this didn't happen to. I suspect this family probably didn't practice good social distancing and social quarantining. They had 4 deaths as the outcome of 7 cases in their family, probably because they are all obese. We have learned that obesity is a significant comorbidity to covid-19. This family was not a typical American family and, IMO, the outcomes they had should not be projected onto the rest of the United States.
So many better men, a few of them friends, were dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things lived on, and so did I.
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April 13th, 2020 at 7:07:54 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

If everyone has the vaccine available to them, and the only people that don’t get the vaccine are those competent adults that choose not to and instead buy a fake certificate, then oh well. They are risking their own health, and the fines and other penalties that may be imposed by a government if caught.


Considering this virus is hammering the lungs and causing a huge surge in hospital beds, ventilators, doctors and nurses....they are not only risking their own health but OUR health infrastructure. Those who had the vaccine also may need a colonoscopy, heart surgery and many many other reasons to be in the hospital thru no fault (directly) of their own.

The selfish are now also imperiling them if their surgery cannot be done because someone is in the bed.

If it was as simple as “you wanna be a dumbsky and not get the vaccine”....so be it.

Not that simple.

It’s the old Mike Tyson edict. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. Everyone has a plan until they are flat on their back hooked up to a machine pumping air into their lungs.
billryan
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April 13th, 2020 at 7:12:30 PM permalink
They were at a family dinner, two weeks before social distancing was a thing. Does blaming the victims make you feel better?
unJon
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April 13th, 2020 at 8:23:55 PM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

Considering this virus is hammering the lungs and causing a huge surge in hospital beds, ventilators, doctors and nurses....they are not only risking their own health but OUR health infrastructure. Those who had the vaccine also may need a colonoscopy, heart surgery and many many other reasons to be in the hospital thru no fault (directly) of their own.

The selfish are now also imperiling them if their surgery cannot be done because someone is in the bed.

If it was as simple as “you wanna be a dumbsky and not get the vaccine”....so be it.

Not that simple.

It’s the old Mike Tyson edict. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. Everyone has a plan until they are flat on their back hooked up to a machine pumping air into their lungs.



It’s that simple after a vaccine is available. The percentage of people that will dodge a free vaccine and pay money for a fake vaccine certification will be absurdly low. No risk of hospitals being overrun. Next.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.

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