Cosby to serve 3-10
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Still has to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life.
But then again, I think I predicted awhile ago he'll commit suicide before setting foot in a jail cell. That was when I thought he was going to be put away for a longer time.
He's 81 and blind. The chances of him repeating the crimes is nil, but his victims certainly deserve justice.
Quote: MaxPen3-10 years for drugging and raping is getting off easy. Hope he gets the full 10. I will send soap on a rope and pudding pops to the the prison, in the attention of Fat Albert.
See when its not politics we agree
Wonder how many he had already raped when this was made?
Quote: GWAESo is this sentence just for 1 person? I thought he was on trial for a bunch but the news just showed 1 person. It confused me.
Only one was still within the statute of limitations.
Quote: GWAESo is this sentence just for 1 person? I thought he was on trial for a bunch but the news just showed 1 person. It confused me.
As tiger wu said statute was up on most everyone else
Had he been convicted of all the crimes he committed he would have gotten life with no possibility of parole
As is there is hope he will be released even at his age.
Quote: TigerWuI predict he'll serve maybe 18 mos. for good behavior.
He won't even be eligible for parole for three years. "Time off for good behavior" applies only to the full 10-year sentence, I think.
not at all.Quote: beachbumbabsThere are possibly grounds for appeal.
Cosby is very much hated
and he is so lucky, imo, they do not take away his memory, as he still can rape those women over and over every day in his mind.
He is so perverted, it is sick.
But remember, RCC priests have covered up worse sickness for way much longer time, and they still go on as nothing happened.
protect the criminals, they are sick and need help
is the cry heard!
where does one really draw the line.
most girls I know, including me, were sexually abused at some time
in our life by a male we might have trusted. We never asked for this stuff to happen to us.
just the times we live in
Hmmm,
who still worships JFK?
My Mom does, but I HATE the man for what he did to women
for his perversions.
these people are losers and preditors and need to be locked away, imo
Sally
Do you think anyone will take a pick axe to the Cosby star?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-cosbys-star-on-hollywood-walk-of-fame-wont-be-removed/
Quote: MaxPenThey came out quick to state his Hollywood Star would remain. Lets you know where Hollywood stands.
Do you think anyone will take a pick axe to the Cosby star?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-cosbys-star-on-hollywood-walk-of-fame-wont-be-removed/
Thats just where one organization in hollywood stands and their statement was to the effect the walk of fame is a monument to the history of Hollywood. Whatever standing socially has changed to a person does not mean you erase the history of his accomplishments
Sometimes I cringe while watching O.J. Simpson play the hero in The Towering Inferno and an Astronaut (yes OJ as an Astronaut) in Capricorn One but the movies still stand as part of history. They shouldnt be ignored just because of their stars later actions
A comparable example would be -- some baseball player gets into the hall of fame. If he's found to be a murderer or something, then he should remain in the HOF. If it's discovered he was using steroids [during MLB play], then he should be ejected from HOF. The steroids would be cheating and make him not worthy of the HOF, because that directly involves it....whereas being a murderer wouldn't have an effect on getting into the HOF (okay, unless he like, murdered all the competition).
I don't know how or if it'd be possible to do something like that (using steroids in MLB = ???? in hollywood). just saying, if there was an equivalent
Quote: MaxPenThey came out quick to state his Hollywood Star would remain. Lets you know where Hollywood stands.
Do you think anyone will take a pick axe to the Cosby star?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-cosbys-star-on-hollywood-walk-of-fame-wont-be-removed/
The fact that Roman Polanski still has a career should tell you everything you need to know about Hollywood. Dude can’t even step foot in the US.
Quote: darkozThats just where one organization in hollywood stands and their statement was to the effect the walk of fame is a monument to the history of Hollywood. Whatever standing socially has changed to a person does not mean you erase the history of his accomplishments
Sometimes I cringe while watching O.J. Simpson play the hero in The Towering Inferno and an Astronaut (yes OJ as an Astronaut) in Capricorn One but the movies still stand as part of history. They shouldnt be ignored just because of their stars later actions
Can you justify the removal of the Donald Trump star?
https://www.nme.com/news/hollywood-votes-to-remove-donald-trumps-walk-of-fame-star-2363992
Quote: PokerGrinderWhy the hell did he have one in the first place? He never deserved it, the only thing he deserves is some well aimed lead in his direction.
If that is in reference to the President, you do realize that threats of any kind are not appreciated by the Secret Service, right? Maybe it doesn't cross the border to come get you, but it could end up being an issue if it is seen and you come into the States.
If it is about Cosby, he deserves his punishment. I don't think a bullet is allowed as a sentence.
BOTH of them got stars for being stars, not for their current activities. In one case, Trump was duly elected as President in spite of what was pretty much known he might have done in the past (and the same with Bill Clinton...the voters knew of allegations of a sordid history with him, too). You are allowed to not like him but he did not get the star for being President. Cosby got his before any of this was known.
I would think there are some other stars there for people who could have their past questioned.
Quote: mustangsallynot at all.
Cosby is very much hated
and he is so lucky, imo, they do not take away his memory, as he still can rape those women over and over every day in his mind.
He is so perverted, it is sick.
But remember, RCC priests have covered up worse sickness for way much longer time, and they still go on as nothing happened.
protect the criminals, they are sick and need help
is the cry heard!
where does one really draw the line.
most girls I know, including me, were sexually abused at some time
in our life by a male we might have trusted. We never asked for this stuff to happen to us.
just the times we live in
Hmmm,
who still worships JFK?
My Mom does, but I HATE the man for what he did to women
for his perversions.
these people are losers and preditors and need to be locked away, imo
Sally
None of that negates the possibility of appeal no matter how much truth their may be to every single allegation against him. The problem with an appeal being successful in this case is how would they find a jury of people who know nothing about the case and have not heard the statements of the accusers?
Lots of horrid people have appealed and been retried or released.
The testimony of other victims was not admissible for the guilt or innocence of the accused at that time, it was admissible only for the 'common scheme'. Prior unconvicted conduct is admissible if its part of a common scheme, that is, a particular technique of committing the crime such as mask, cape, necktie, time of day or location.
Otherwise the prior acts would not be admissible since they did not result in convictions.
Quote: FleaStiffA defendant has a right to an impartial jury, not an ignorant one. They can have heard the publicity about it and still serve.
That’s correct, while ideally jurors would not know anything about the case, that can’t always happen. In those situations, the required criteria, and this may not be perfect, is roughly:
1. The juror must not have an established opinion about the case.
2. The juror must not have any knowledge of the case that has not already been made public.
3. The juror is supposed to avoid reading any opinion on the case while the trial is ongoing.
Especially in light of the way information travels today, that’s really the best you can do sometimes.
If the accused believes a jury to be more likely to do harm than good, then they could theoretically request a bench trial. Whether or not the prosecution also has to agree to the bench trial can vary depending on the jurisdiction of the case, but in some jurisdictions, it’s basically automatic if requested by the accused.
Many surveys and the like define 'abuse' in such general terms that the response rate is extremely high and would include such things as an unsolicited off-color joke. This skews the data of course.
Men and women have different viewpoints. Several months ago I bought an adjustable bed and was having great difficulty deciding on size and price. One woman who was helping me keep track of all the various models and options wanted me to go into her teenage daughter's bedroom to see what a Twin size looked like the daughter then being at a summer camp about a 150 miles away. Women just don't understand that decent men do not want to enter a teenage girl's bedroom at any time under any circumstances.
Several years ago I purchased five separate items that were part of one grocery store special. I am old and a diabetic but the half gallon of ice cream was included. I knew I should not eat it and offered it to the woman ahead of me in the check out line. A simple thank you would have been just fine but the woman then encouraged her daughter to say thank you also and to accompany it with a kiss on the cheek. Sometimes women just go too far. Why was that woman bringing up her daughter to give a peck on the cheek to a perfect stranger? What would the daughter be like when she started to go out on dates?
Most girls can and do trust men they encounter. Usually its without any consequences at all but such things as going to a man's hotel room for a dinner and then getting drugged would not happen if the woman simply did not go to a man's hotel room. I remember the days when women did not want to even meet a man in a bar if the bar was inside a hotel. It sent the wrong message; they wanted to meet elsewhere.
Many of the allegations against Cosby seemed fictitious but many clearly did not. He had quite a career as a rapist but it was certainly aided by women who were acting unwisely and knew it.
I was wondering why a guy from Canada has such a strong opinion about a U.S. president, but then I remembered something.Quote: PokerGrinderWhy the hell did he have one in the first place? He never deserved it, the only thing he deserves is some well aimed lead in his direction.
Quote: MaxPenCan you justify the removal of the Donald Trump star?
https://www.nme.com/news/hollywood-votes-to-remove-donald-trumps-walk-of-fame-star-2363992
Can you justify why you are lying?
The article says the same decision was made for the same reasons
His star was vandalised but not officially removed and I am sure will probably be fixed/replaced
Quote: onenickelmiracleI don't think Cosby will face any harassment or rape in prison. He might rape some guys, but they want it. In seriousness, I think most people would look at him, and think about his entertainment career, he will be protected. Don't know about prisons, but what I watch on TV, but I think most people are in shock and denial about him, still can't believe it. That's kind of the way I feel.
Rapos and celebrities generally are picked on in prison. His age might get him a pass
Quote: MaxPenI stand corrected. Should have asked. Can you justify voting for the removal of Donald Trump's star?
As long as the people in charge made the same decision and are consistent I see no problem
Others can vote or make suggestions. Its a free country
The people in charge have a policy and are not bending it for one person and not the other so seems fine to me
Quote: darkozRapos and celebrities generally are picked on in prison. His age might get him a pass
My understanding is that he is going to a special facility because of his age and the fact that he is legally blind. I doubt there are many predators in this type of facility.
Quote: RSI don't really think Cosby's star should be removed due to non-TV-stuff. Had it been discovered he did something to not deserve the star, then it should be removed.
A comparable example would be -- some baseball player gets into the hall of fame. If he's found to be a murderer or something, then he should remain in the HOF. If it's discovered he was using steroids [during MLB play], then he should be ejected from HOF. The steroids would be cheating and make him not worthy of the HOF, because that directly involves it....whereas being a murderer wouldn't have an effect on getting into the HOF (okay, unless he like, murdered all the competition).
I don't know how or if it'd be possible to do something like that (using steroids in MLB = ???? in hollywood). just saying, if there was an equivalent
Yet Pete Rose has been forever banned from the HOF just for making a few bets.
Quote: Lovecomps
Yet Pete Rose has been forever banned from the HOF just for making a few bets.
There are plenty of people, myself included, who don’t think he should be banned from the Hall. Not that it has any effect on my life or that I really care that much.
Even then, it wasn’t a retroactive thing. I don’t think he was already in the Hall of Fame and then they took him out of it, did they?
Fans want sports where both sides are trying to win.
Rose supposedly only bet on his own team but 1) could have become vulnerable to black mail and 2) could have sacrificed the teams and player's long term interests to win today and cash.
Quote: billryanOJ was in the Hall when he was convicted of armed kidnapping after being tried for a double murder. He still is in.
I believe they are keeping him in based on his promise to spend the rest of his life looking for the real killer
Quote: MaxPenThey came out quick to state his Hollywood Star would remain. Lets you know where Hollywood stands.
Donald Trump's star isn't going anywhere, either. Lets you know where Hollywood stands.
From one of the links you posted:
"But the final decision rests with the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce, who have previously resisted calls to remove the stars of controversial figures.
In December 2015, they resisted impassioned calls for the removal of Bill Cosby’s star from the Walk of Fame, after the iconic entertainer faced multiples sexual assault claims.
To date, there has not been a single star removed from the Walk of Fame."
But I expect no one will call for any sort of measures against this Cosby character, they won't even have to put the guy in AdSeg, he can do the General Population and still be safe. Also many prisons are really old age homes with guards really being geriatric nurses.
It is ofcourse cheaper to put aging cons in nursing homes but never headline making cons.
