onenickelmiracle
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September 3rd, 2018 at 5:36:04 PM permalink
Has it ever happened where you were disappointed with your offers, then you check the kiosk and there is some decent FP there, they didn't tell you you would even have? I can't possibly be there every day just in case some decent FP is there I'm not even told would be there. I only received one BS piece of mail from them, everything else has been email. By BS mail, it was just something explaining the players club. I've had this same problem at other casinos not getting all my mail, occasionally "finding" extra FP. I don't really enjoy not even knowing what FP I'm supposed to get and not even being able to plan being there.
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September 3rd, 2018 at 6:36:15 PM permalink
I went to Laughlin last weekend and had $600 more in freeplay at the kiosk than I was expecting. That was a great trip.
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September 3rd, 2018 at 9:42:06 PM permalink
Its happened to me at both cet and mlife
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onenickelmiracle
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September 4th, 2018 at 3:09:40 AM permalink
So how do you turn unexpected FP into expected FP? The players club was closed when I was there, I should try being there when they're open. I'm leery sending an email, because the emails I'm getting don't show it, don't want the casino to take away what I could get. I don't want to be there every day.
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Romes
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September 4th, 2018 at 9:30:16 AM permalink
Yep, I've also had that happen. That's why generally if I KNOW I'm already swiping a card for this or that, I will always go to the Kiosk and swipe to see what else is on there.

Careful to others though, if you always just swipe and don't play/etc, you'll kill your ADT.
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darkoz
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September 4th, 2018 at 9:32:29 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

Yep, I've also had that happen. That's why generally if I KNOW I'm already swiping a card for this or that, I will always go to the Kiosk and swipe to see what else is on there.

Careful to others though, if you always just swipe and don't play/etc, you'll kill your ADT.



Swiping at the kiosk almost never affects ADT.

Never seen a casino do it. Not saying none do. Just not in my experience
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September 4th, 2018 at 9:35:22 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Swiping at the kiosk almost never affects ADT.

Never seen a casino do it. Not saying none do. Just not in my experience

Swiping at the kiosk should create a database entry for your card for the day... which should thus creates a blank receipt of $0 avg bet, $0 wagered, etc, and if you don't do anything else with your card for the day I'd imagine it updates and impacts your overall average ADT?

While I don't have 100%, a) this makes sense - anyway a casino can track you they will, and b) I have casinos that have me logged for "X days" per month and I know I didn't PLAY on that card that many days but I definitely swiped in to the kiosks for daily FP giveaways, etc... So I cannot confirm for "all" casinos but I know for a few in the midwest that swiping the kiosk definitely creates a daily entry.
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September 4th, 2018 at 1:49:27 PM permalink
It turned out I just beat the mail by a few days and the mail was late. I only swiped because I played that day. Agreed unless you know swiping doesn't hurt, don't do it. It's kind of hard for me to believe it doesn't hurt when told by knowledgeable people, whether employee or experienced gamblers. I took a shot at one casino and can tell it hasn't affected anything as far as I could tell unless the offers were supposed to go way up, and I don't think it's the case. I still gamble on those days uncarded, but not as much usually. All casinos should change this policy, they're just down rating players and driving them away.
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darkoz
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September 4th, 2018 at 3:17:21 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Swiping at the kiosk should create a database entry for your card for the day... which should thus creates a blank receipt of $0 avg bet, $0 wagered, etc, and if you don't do anything else with your card for the day I'd imagine it updates and impacts your overall average ADT?

While I don't have 100%, a) this makes sense - anyway a casino can track you they will, and b) I have casinos that have me logged for "X days" per month and I know I didn't PLAY on that card that many days but I definitely swiped in to the kiosks for daily FP giveaways, etc... So I cannot confirm for "all" casinos but I know for a few in the midwest that swiping the kiosk definitely creates a daily entry.



I didnt say you could swipe in for daily fp giveaways

If you just swipe and check your points you are not logged in at any casino i have ever played at

Obviously i havent played everywhere
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September 4th, 2018 at 5:06:28 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Swiping at the kiosk almost never affects ADT.

Never seen a casino do it. Not saying none do. Just not in my experience



Second thread that I have seen you say something doesnt effect ADT. Do you even know what ADT is? Your book is going to have info as good as dice controlling.
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September 4th, 2018 at 6:02:19 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Second thread that I have seen you say something doesnt effect ADT. Do you even know what ADT is? Your book is going to have info as good as dice controlling.



I cant help it if i know more than you do

Kiosks dont affect ADT anywhere i have been or go

I routinely use other players cards

When they get them i hav them swipe at the kiosks to confirm their pins work. I usually wind up playing a different day because of my schedule

NOTHING EVER IS AFFECTED. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT ADT IS?

I bet you never tested to find out. I routinely test multiple casinos in many states. I know most all of how the intricacies of their software, offers, play limitations and coin-requirements are. I know if they value ADT versus losses or even wins

So your saying i swipe hundreds of cards at kiosks without affect and its my imagination

Sir you do not know what you are talking about in reference to this matter. That is not opinion. That is fact
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September 4th, 2018 at 11:43:38 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I cant help it if i know more than you do

Kiosks dont affect ADT anywhere i have been or go

I routinely use other players cards

When they get them i hav them swipe at the kiosks to confirm their pins work. I usually wind up playing a different day because of my schedule

NOTHING EVER IS AFFECTED. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT ADT IS?

I bet you never tested to find out. I routinely test multiple casinos in many states. I know most all of how the intricacies of their software, offers, play limitations and coin-requirements are. I know if they value ADT versus losses or even wins

So your saying i swipe hundreds of cards at kiosks without affect and its my imagination

Sir you do not know what you are talking about in reference to this matter. That is not opinion. That is fact

Are you trying to tell me that swiping in AC won't affect your ADT?
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September 5th, 2018 at 12:20:41 AM permalink
Pretty soon we are going to have what “swiping” means explained to us like we are all two year olds.
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September 5th, 2018 at 3:59:16 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Are you trying to tell me that swiping in AC won't affect your ADT?



It wont affect ADT in AC, NYS, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Connecticutt, or Mississippi

Except for AC, and Connecticutt I havent been to every casino in every state but i'm fairly certain its the same all over

Swiping does not log you in

Now printing out concert tix or free buffet vouchers that i have seen can log you in. Even a new membership promo if it has a scanned barcode that references your account

From what i have seen activating a freeplay but not actually using it is generally safe unless it involves printing like with a matchplay for example

Ex. At sugarhouse in PA you have to swipe in at the kiosk every time to activate freeplay. That does not affect ADT long as you dont actually use it

Just checking points or to see what offers you have is safe in my experience. However not all kiosks show freeplay offers currently available either so might be a moot point
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September 5th, 2018 at 4:09:19 AM permalink
For that matter as should be obvious from my above posts actually signing up for a players card (literally showing ID that you were physically in the casino) does not log you in either

Surprisingly winning jackpots in certain locales does not either. I have won on another players card and forced to claim it worried that my own ADT might be affected but in most cases it is not (however finding out the hard way I know a few places that do so thats not an industry standard)
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