Racist or not?
Poll
 | 17 votes (44.73%) | ||
| | 21 votes (55.26%) |
38 members have voted
Quote: unJonThis is the most sensible post in this thread.Quote: RSYou can conjure up whatever the hell arguments you want based on arbitrary definitions. That doesn’t make you right, though. The bottom line is this —
Racism: “That person’s bad (or I’m better) because of their race (and/or my race).”
Sexism: “That person’s bad (or I’m better) because of their sex (and/or my sex).”
You can play with all your BS technicalities all you want. I don’t care what Webster has to say on the matter, we all know what sexism and racism is.
If someone doesn’t find someone of a different race attractive, that could be racist or it could be that person doesn’t find that race attractive. It’s the underlying reason why that matters. Just like if you got in a fight with a black guy — did you get in a fight because he was talking s***, or because you hate blacks? One’s racist, one’s not.
In that case RS wins the grand prize, a date locked for 24 hours in the honey moon suite, at Circus Circus with the winner of Miss Lovely Eyes!
Congratulations to all who participated!
Better luck next time.
[
Quote: unJonWith grave hesitation I am posting in this thread. Honest question based on the above reasoning: if a person is not attracted to anyone of a particular gender, is that person sexist?
Being attracted to someone based on gender is related to sexuality. And anyone who says they aren't attracted to someone based on race most likely has some unresolved issues with their own sexuality.
Quote: EvenBobI would never date a black woman because you'd have to be involved with every member of her family.
This is racism. And as someone with black family members, it's also a personal attack
Quote: TomGThis is racism. And as someone with black family members, it's also a personal attack
Thanks Tom. You’re fighting the good fight.
Quote: TomGBeing attracted to someone based on gender is related to sexuality. And anyone who says they aren't attracted to someone based on race most likely has some unresolved issues with their own sexuality.
That makes absolutely zero sense. What does race have to do with your sexuality? Why is race different than any other quality?
Quote: AZDuffmanThat makes absolutely zero sense. What does race have to do with your sexuality? Why is race different than any other quality?
Nothing! That’s the point!
Quote: TomGThis is racism.
So what. I live my life according to the
experiences I've had. You live your life
the same way. Why do you want me to
live my life the way you live yours, are
you in charge?
Quote: FinsRuleThanks Tom. You’re fighting the good fight.
LOLOLOLOL!!!
We are all humans and connected much more than people think. Some people are ignorant and just dont know how to act or react to people and or situations. I think humans are all inherently good and loving, however many havent had the luxuries of life as others have. Product of your environment is a valid point.
was a racist and proud of it. Sears
even sold black Mammy cookie jars
and Mammy and Mose salt and pepper
shakers. Nowadays everybody is still
as racist as ever, but they dare not admit
it. I think there's more racism today
than ever before.
Quote: EvenBobWhen I grew up in the 50's, everybody
was a racist and proud of it. Sears
even sold black Mammy cookie jars
and Mammy and Mose salt and pepper
shakers. Nowadays everybody is still
as racist as ever, but they dare not admit
it. I think there's more racism today
than ever before.
If your goal is to prove you're the saddest human being on this board, you're doing a good job of it.
Quote: rxwineIf your goal is to prove you're the saddest human being on this board, you're doing a good job of it.
Sad, how so. You think racism is dead
in this country? Really? Grow up and
smell the petunia's, it's more racist now
than ever. But, shhh, don't say that out
loud.. LOLOL
Look at Europe, they say it's more anti
semetic now than in the 1930's when
Hitler came to power. But, shhh, we
can't talk about that in public.
I think this thread is a new low for this forum.... 42 pages of people arguing about dating other races, and several members straight up admitting to having racist beliefs.
I feel like I'm in the comments section of a Yahoo article.
Quote: TigerWuLOL
I think this thread is a new low for this forum.... 42 pages of people arguing about dating other races, and several members straight up admitting to having racist beliefs.
Didn't see one person say they had racist beliefs.
Did see a bunch of SJW snowflakes who think it is their business to tell others who they should date.
Quote: AZDuffman
Did see a bunch of SJW snowflakes who think it is their business to tell others who they should date.
Too bad, I've never been upset by upsetting racists, if it was done on purpose or by accident.
Quote: rxwineToo bad, I've never been upset by upsetting racists, if it was done on purpose or by accident.
As there are no racists here there is nobody for you to upset.
Quote: rxwineToo bad, I've never been upset by upsetting racists, if it was done on purpose or by accident.
Just today Scott Adams said on his daily
report that everybody is a racist about
something, you just can't say it anymore.
At one time seeing the difference in races
and ethnicities was a given, everybody
did it, everybody. Now we still do it but
pretend we don't.
Quote: AZDuffmanAs there are no racists here there is nobody for you to upset.
George Jacobs, Sinatra's valet, in his book
says JFK's father was the biggest racist
he ever met. He would use the N word
right to his face, and tell vile black
jokes when he knew George could
hear them. He talked to him like
he was a plantation slave. This was
a Kennedy, the bastions of goodness.
Quote: AZDuffmanDidn't see one person say they had racist beliefs.
Did see a bunch of SJW snowflakes who think it is their business to tell others who they should date.
Maybe I missed it, but I didn’t read one comment that told others who they should date.
It’s impossible to have a conversation when the topic keeps shifting.
Quote: TigerWuLOL
I think this thread is a new low for this forum.... 42 pages of people arguing about dating other races, and several members straight up admitting to having racist beliefs.
I feel like I'm in the comments section of a Yahoo article.
I don’t know. We’ve had a lot of lows. I usually don’t comment on these types of threads. But this one just seemed really easy.
And... anytime anyone uses the phrase “snowflake”, I immediately downgrade what they are saying. To me, it’s like “I’m losing this battle, time to call the person names”
Quote: FinsRule
And... anytime anyone uses the phrase “snowflake”, I immediately downgrade what they are saying. To me, it’s like “I’m losing this battle, time to call the person names”
That is what I do when a snowflake says "racist." It means they cannot make an intellectual point.
Quote: FinsRuleMaybe I missed it, but I didn’t read one comment that told others who they should date.
Any of the comments that say it is wrong to exclude someone from your dating pool based on race.
Quote: AZDuffmanThat is what I do when a snowflake says "racist." It means they cannot make an intellectual point.
Any of the comments that say it is wrong to exclude someone from your dating pool based on race.
The word racist has a definition. Racism does exist.
If you don’t want to date someone because of their race, you shouldn’t. I’d feel bad for that person. Do whatever you want, it just seems close minded....
against Harvard for their extreme racist
and bigoted policies against Asians
and people from India. You could be
an Asian Einstein and if they have their
'quota' of Asians for that semester, a
black kid is getting in and you're not.
Racism and bigotry is prolific in this
country.
I posted the link awhile back of the India
kid who got rejected from all the big
colleges. He was dark skinned, he changed
his first name and shaved his head bald
and applied as a black, and got admitted
almost everywhere. If that's not racism,
what is.
Quote: EvenBobI posted the link awhile back of the India
kid who got rejected from all the big
colleges. He was dark skinned, he changed
his first name and shaved his head bald
and applied as a black, and got admitted
almost everywhere. If that's not racism,
what is.
You never posted the link. I asked for it and you said no, because you lied about the details.
He didn’t get admitted “almost everywhere.”
Quote:Ultimately, he told CNN he applied at 22 medical schools and interviewed at 11. He was wait-listed at four schools and got into only one.
Always love it when facts get in the way of one of EB’s exaggerations.
He is actress Mindy Kaling’s brother, BTW.
Quote: EvenBobThere's a huge gov't lawsuit right now
against Harvard for their extreme racist
and bigoted policies against Asians
and people from India. You could be
an Asian Einstein and if they have their
'quota' of Asians for that semester, a
black kid is getting in and you're not.
Racism and bigotry is prolific in this
country.
I posted the link awhile back of the India
kid who got rejected from all the big
colleges. He was dark skinned, he changed
his first name and shaved his head bald
and applied as a black, and got admitted
almost everywhere. If that's not racism,
what is.
I had this feeling that asians were somewhere down the food chain because they never get asked to join a multicultural fraternity. They have to make their own.
Quote: FinsRuleBob, technically it’s discrimination, not racism.
Actually it sounds more like institutionalized racism to me. Putting skin color over academic qualifications.
Knowing Harvard and other schools they are probably not bringing in the Asians because the Asians are smarter. They like having less qualified Blacks because they can feel good about themselves but the Black kids do not threaten or challenge them academically. OTOH, the Asians do!
BTW: How is it "discrimination" when a liberal university does it for admissions, which does have harm, but "racism" if it is a white male choosing who to date?
Discrimination is the unjust treatment of different categories of people.
Racism is what a person believes.
And by the tone of your post, you make it sound like discrimination is not thought of as bad as racist. Not sure why...
And finally, for the 3rd or 4th time, choosing who to date does not make you racist. Saying an entire race of people is unattractive, because of their race, is.
Quote: FinsRuleI can’t believe I have to be the dictionary for the forum. Edit- not the whole forum. Just a couple of people.
Discrimination is the unjust treatment of different categories of people.
Racism is what a person believes.
OK, so Harvard and other institutions believe it is OK to keep qualified Asians out. Sounds like racism at an institutional level to me!
Quote:And by the tone of your post, you make it sound like discrimination is not thought of as bad as racist. Not sure why...
Why is because of the word games in your post. Soon as it is a liberal institution you choose a less toxic word to describe it.
Quote:And finally, for the 3rd or 4th time, choosing who to date does not make you racist. Saying an entire race of people is unattractive, because of their race, is.
And for the equal 3rd or 4th time, WHY? Why is not finding a race attractive different than not finding a hair color attractive? Or over a certain weight? Or ANYTHING? What is wrong with just not being into a certain group of women?
Got keep it alive forever in honor of John McCain and Aretha Franklin.Quote: unJonWhy is this thread still a thing? RS already won.
I looked it up on the internet, black women are said to have the best, tightest vaginas. Asians just have short holes. Go out and tap it.Quote: AZDuffmanOK, so Harvard and other institutions believe it is OK to keep qualified Asians out. Sounds like racism at an institutional level to me!
Why is because of the word games in your post. Soon as it is a liberal institution you choose a less toxic word to describe it.
And for the equal 3rd or 4th time, WHY? Why is not finding a race attractive different than not finding a hair color attractive? Or over a certain weight? Or ANYTHING? What is wrong with just not being into a certain group of women?
Quote: AZDuffmanOK, so Harvard and other institutions believe it is OK to keep qualified Asians out. Sounds like racism at an institutional level to me!
Why is because of the word games in your post. Soon as it is a liberal institution you choose a less toxic word to describe it.
And for the equal 3rd or 4th time, WHY? Why is not finding a race attractive different than not finding a hair color attractive? Or over a certain weight? Or ANYTHING? What is wrong with just not being into a certain group of women?
1. In my opinion, discriminating against someone is WORSE than being a racist. I don’t care what you think about me because of my race, but if you don’t give me a loan or a job because of it, then it actually affects me.
2. You are the one thinking one word is more toxic than another. They are two different words with different definitions. This is not an opinion I’m expressing. I’m using definitions from dictionaries.
3. Babs did a great job of explaining the biological part of the equation. Go read her post again.
I just started typing out a long explanation of human sexuality, but I’m just not going to do it.
But I will say this, if I gathered every brown haired person in the world and you found none of them attractive, it would be just as odd as if I found every brown skinned person in the world and you found none of them attractive. In both circumstances, it’d be obvious you have deep issues with your own sexuality.
The dictionary defines it as racism, but I guess I’d leave a small chance of a possibility open that instead you would just have extremely deep seeded sexual issues.
A therapist or scientist would have to figure that one out.
Quote: FinsRule1. In my opinion, discriminating against someone is WORSE than being a racist. I don’t care what you think about me because of my race, but if you don’t give me a loan or a job because of it, then it actually affects me.
2. You are the one thinking one word is more toxic than another. They are two different words with different definitions. This is not an opinion I’m expressing. I’m using definitions from dictionaries.
3. Babs did a great job of explaining the biological part of the equation. Go read her post again.
1. OK, whatever. Either way the school is doing a very bad thing.
2. Consider how you worded it. That is why wrote what I did.
3. I am not interested in hearing human sexuality explained. I won't say what the last part of it sounded like it was saying.
Quote:I just started typing out a long explanation of human sexuality, but I’m just not going to do it.
But I will say this, if I gathered every brown haired person in the world and you found none of them attractive, it would be just as odd as if I found every brown skinned person in the world and you found none of them attractive. In both circumstances, it’d be obvious you have deep issues with your own sexuality.
Why on earth is having a preference or dislike "having issues with your own sexuality?" Why is not liking something "odd?" Some of us have preferences and that is that. And you *still* are not saying why a preference on race is somehow different than one on hair (or anything else,)
Quote:The dictionary defines it as racism, but I guess I’d leave a small chance of a possibility open that instead you would just have extremely deep seeded sexual issues.
A therapist or scientist would have to figure that one out.
So, now you are questioning my sexuality because you cannot answer? You seem to have a hang-up on race. To the point of making borderline personal insults in your reply.
Quote: FinsRuleIt’s a human sexuality issue. You don’t want to hear it, and I’m not an expert. So I guess we’re done. Nice.
I guess we are done since you keep re-directing the underlying question.
1.) I don't think it would be a racism issue at all to find one race generally more physically appealing than others. I would think that akin to preferring a certain hair color, eye color, height or any of those things.
2.) I do think it is time to explore one's thoughts on race if there is anyone who finds an entire race categorically unattractive, which is to say every single person in that race, that would tend to point to racism.
3.) I think it's a racism issue if someone is not inclined to date out of race (or date a particular race) because of what family or friends will think. If I were in that situation, I would just tell my family or friends to go F themselves. Family and friendships are about quality and not quantity anyway and have no value unto themselves. If they want to have a problem with your personal choices, you know what to tell them to do.
Quote: Mission146
3.) I think it's a racism issue if someone is not inclined to date out of race (or date a particular race) because of what family or friends will think.
I disagree. I think there are lots of people that would not date anyone if their family or friends would not approve. There might be racism in the family, but some people are just not confrontational and don't want to deal with the consequences. That might make them weak, but not necessarily racist.
Quote: DRichI disagree. I think there are lots of people that would not date anyone if their family or friends would not approve. There might be racism in the family, but some people are just not confrontational and don't want to deal with the consequences. That might make them weak, but not necessarily racist.
I apologize for not being clear enough. When I said, "Racism issue," I meant that the family would be racist, not the person who wasn't doing the dating, necessarily. That person would certainly be kowtowing to racism, but that and actually being racist are two different things.
Quote: Mission146
2.) I do think it is time to explore one's thoughts on race if there is anyone who finds an entire race categorically unattractive, which is to say every single person in that race, that would tend to point to racism.
I still do not see why. To me it is just the same as say a tattoo being a turn-off.
Welcome back, btw. How was the food in the hole?
Quote: AZDuffmanI still do not see why. To me it is just the same as say a tattoo being a turn-off.
Welcome back, btw. How was the food in the hole?
Do you suspect there are many guys who would not engage in sexual congress with ANY woman with a tattoo, regardless of how small the tattoo is or where it is located?
For example, I'm not really into blondes. I would say my least favorite combination of physical elements would be:
Hair: Blonde
Eyes: Brown
Build: Thin
Breasts: Virtually Nonexistent
Ass: Nope
Height: Short
Glasses: Unfortunately Not
But, I have nevertheless been attracted to a few women fitting that description. Few and far between, mind you, but sometimes other factors are enough to outweigh preferences. I think if someone basically just thinks that ALL (Insert Race) people are unattractive, I just don't know how that statement can categorically be made without there existing racism. Even if not people one has encountered, then certainly one would think a non-racist could imagine a hypothetical person of the (Insert Race) that would be attractive to them.
Thanks for the welcome, food was fine. It was also very quiet. I may go back sometime if I decide to take a poke at another fellow inmate.
Quote: Mission146Do you suspect there are many guys who would not engage in sexual congress with ANY woman with a tattoo, regardless of how small the tattoo is or where it is located?
I think if someone basically just thinks that ALL (Insert Race) people are unattractive, I just don't know how that statement can categorically be made without there existing racism. Even if not people one has encountered, then certainly one would think a non-racist could imagine a hypothetical person of the (Insert Race) that would be attractive to them.
(Snipped to only answer part.)
I have heard stories on these very boards of some Marine platoon with a gay guy in it and the straights pitched to him under the "why not" excuse. Other guys are true to one woman. And everything in-between. Point being, it does not matter how many, if it is a turn-off it is a turn-off. If it helps, consider it a straight version of "born this way."
Quote:Thanks for the welcome, food was fine. It was also very quiet. I may go back sometime if I decide to take a poke at another fellow inmate.
Just remember what ya learned there. Never rat on your friends, and always keep your mouth shut.
long shows the confusing times we
live in. If this was 1965, a thread like
this would be a few posts. Racism
now, like so many other trigger words,
means what you want it to mean, so
confusion reigns. We can thanks the
Lefties for this, obviously.
Quote: EvenBobThe fact that this thread is 45 pages
long shows the confusing times we
live in. If this was 1965, a thread like
this would be a few posts. Racism
now, like so many other trigger words,
means what you want it to mean, so
confusion reigns. We can thanks the
Lefties for this, obviously.
Another fact is we have like 45% of the USA population worried they will appear "racist" if they order a vanilla milkshake instead of chocolate. They think by looking for racism everywhere and anywhere they are somehow more pure than everyone else. Same people also think that it is impossible for minorities to be racist. It is just strange.
You realize that you saying that says more about you then anything else, right?
Can you see how people might find it difficult to take you seriously when you say things like this?
Quote: FinsRuleYes, 45% of the population thinks that. Right.
You realize that you saying that says more about you then anything else, right?
No.
Can you see how people might find it difficult to take you seriously when you say things like this?
No.
God bless America. Where the dumbest amongst us are free to express their thoughts.
Quote: Mission146I think if someone basically just thinks that ALL (Insert Race) people are unattractive, I just don't know how that statement can categorically be made without there existing racism.
Easy. I prefer sharp, strong features, a square jaw, what some refer to as "man face". Eva Mendes is a great example, or since half here are old as sin, think Amber Smith. Melania > Ivanka, in other words. You get the drift.
As such, I can say with ease and no hate that I've never seen an attractive Korean. They IMO have the absolute softest features of humanity, and I cannot see them in a sexual/ romantic manner. I would extend that to pretty much the entire Orient, save those in the south Pacific (Laos on down). Eskimo, Polynesian, they all look like large children to me. Unformed. Everything's too round.
T'ain't hate, i just don't dig it. Needs to be chiseled. I'd wife Lucy Liu in a minute, as she's properly squared up. But 100% of all this weebo nonsense, any/ all Asian models, TV, anime, manga.... Ain't ugly, ain't gross. I can see with logic that, say, Pichana Yoosuk is legit beautiful. But i wouldn't date her.
There.
