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jamesshoffner22162
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October 10th, 2010 at 7:15:13 PM permalink
Mr. Wizard of odds,

You have offered $20,000 to anyone who has a roulette system and can prove through your challange that it works. You have stated that in the 6 years that you have offered your challenge that only one person has accepted it and that they had failed. I myself would like to take you up on your challange if it is still standing. But I have one request for you. You may state to your readers that I am taking your challange. You may write about the results of the challange. But I must insist that you not explain to anyone what my system is or how it works. I am not doing this to sell anything to anyone. I am doing this because you have said so many times that it can not be done when I know that it can. If you agree to alow me to take your challange then please contact me at jamesshoffner22162@gmail.com

Thank You,

James Shoffner
mkl654321
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October 10th, 2010 at 8:16:51 PM permalink
You may want to read another thread on this site dealing with the acceptance (not by the Wizard) of a similar challenge already in progress.
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October 10th, 2010 at 8:59:35 PM permalink
I withdrew my challenge about five years ago. The reason is that I would spend several hours negotiating terms, only to have the challenger back out. This happened dozens of times. The exact same thing is going to happen with the 98steps and Michael Bluejay, I predict. If you want a challenge, you may ask Michael Bluejay to be next in line. Here are his rules.
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Wavy70
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October 10th, 2010 at 9:22:59 PM permalink
I have a system but most casino's have a strict No Haruspicy rule that I can't get around.
I have a bewitched egg that I use to play VP with and I have net over 900k with it.
EvenBob
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October 10th, 2010 at 9:27:18 PM permalink
Quote: Wavy70

I have a system but most casino's have a strict No Haruspicy rule that I can't get around.



Hairspray? You use hairspray at the roulette table?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
Wavy70
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October 10th, 2010 at 10:32:56 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Hairspray? You use hairspray at the roulette table?



Aquanet is best.
I have a bewitched egg that I use to play VP with and I have net over 900k with it.
andrewsmith1
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October 12th, 2010 at 2:10:07 AM permalink
I have been playing roulette from many years now. I have tried different strategies and systems at various casinos. Some systems have worked well for me while others haven't. So think it is extremely difficult to win than to continuously working on same strategy.
SanchoPanza
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October 12th, 2010 at 4:47:20 AM permalink
Quote: andrewsmithIt is extremely difficult to win than to continuously working on same strategy.[/q


That doesn't stand to reason if the tables and odds, etc., aren't changing.

SanchoPanza
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October 12th, 2010 at 4:48:14 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Hairspray? You use hairspray at the roulette table?


Maybe it makes the ball stickier.
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October 12th, 2010 at 5:33:56 AM permalink
I've held it in so long, I just can't stand it.

I, too, have been winning at roulette for years. My system is, I guess which number is going to come up, and then I bet on it. Sometimes I bet a little, sometimes I bet a lot. I don't always win, but I win about one out of ten; I'm a good guesser. I've been guessing and winning for about 15 years now.

So, my system is to get really, really good at guessing, then go to a casino and rake in the big bux. It really is that easy.
A falling knife has no handle.
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October 12th, 2010 at 5:41:59 AM permalink
Quote: Mosca

my system is to get really, really good at guessing


How does that work at, say, the stock market?
Doc
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October 12th, 2010 at 7:08:05 AM permalink
Dang it, Mosca, you stole my system! I forgive you though. I gave up on that system some years ago when I started to lose money. I must have gotten rusty or careless with my guessing the roulette numbers, so I changed over to guessing the dice faces, and now I'm using it as a winning strategy at craps.
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October 12th, 2010 at 7:50:03 AM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

How does that work at, say, the stock market?



Hey, there are some guys who are really good at it. Warren Buffett. I think you have to be better than 1 in 10, though. I'm not that good a guesser, so I stick to the easy stuff, like roulette, where it's more relaxing. Just sit there and take the free drinks and the free money. No necktie, no government regulation.
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October 12th, 2010 at 9:03:53 AM permalink
Can someone play roulette without losing?
Of course!! Just ask anyone who is hawking a sure-fire system. They will tell you "yes".

Secrecy?
Yep, gotta have that. I mean it ain't like ya plan to go into a casino and in full view of cameras and experienced personnel who are paid to be keen observers actually use the system under bright lights. You just want to sell it. Of course one wonders how you were able to develop this system unless you did it in a casino. And one wonders how you tested it, unless it was in a casino. So what do you think? Its some super secret still?
chickendinner
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October 12th, 2010 at 3:08:00 PM permalink
FleaStiff, talk about asking a stupid question, duh.

They use invisible ink in the casino when jotting down their notes. To read these notes requires special x-ray glasses which of course they hold the patent on and only 1 pair was ever made. Sheez.
NightStalker
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October 12th, 2010 at 3:26:25 PM permalink
How much are you willing to pay if you lose the challenge? What are the odds?
Or are you looking only for free rolls?
mkl654321
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October 12th, 2010 at 4:05:19 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

I've held it in so long, I just can't stand it.

I, too, have been winning at roulette for years. My system is, I guess which number is going to come up, and then I bet on it. Sometimes I bet a little, sometimes I bet a lot. I don't always win, but I win about one out of ten; I'm a good guesser. I've been guessing and winning for about 15 years now.

So, my system is to get really, really good at guessing, then go to a casino and rake in the big bux. It really is that easy.



It's not even necessary to do that. All you really have to do is find someone else who's really really good at guessing, and then follow them around the casino. If they take a break, you should grab and eat their sandwich or drink their beer so they get back to playing.

The above strategy also works if you can find someone who is really really BAD at guessing.

There's a book in here somewhere. $24.95 at fine retailers everywhere.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
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October 12th, 2010 at 4:16:05 PM permalink
At 5-10 picking in the NFL... you could always fade me for football...
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
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October 12th, 2010 at 4:20:56 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

At 5-10 picking in the NFL... you could always fade me for football...



Exactly! A 66% rate is hard to achieve!

Many years ago, there was a weekly newsletter in Vegas that was the precursor of Gaming Today, and every week during the football season they posted their "Lock of the Week!!" in bold headlines on page one. One year they started off 0-12. We were starting to use it as a reliable indicator, when dammit, they got the next two weeks right. Bastards.
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October 12th, 2010 at 7:37:12 PM permalink
If I had 750 million dollars and the tables had no maximum with a minimum of $5, I could bet on a single 3rd 27 times in a row, and my profit would be $5+my final bet amount.

This system can be beaten, however very rare.

And that folks, is why there are table maximums...
OneAngryDwarf
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October 12th, 2010 at 7:54:06 PM permalink
I don't understand why everyone says that roulette can't be beaten. I've personally raked in BILLIONS of dollars with roulette over the years! My system just can't be beaten no matter what!

Sincerely,
Steve Wynn
"I believe I've passed the age/of consciousness and righteous rage/I've found that just surviving was a noble fight... I once believed in causes too/I had my pointless point of view/And life went on no matter who was wrong or right..." --Billy Joel
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October 12th, 2010 at 8:02:39 PM permalink
Quote: Triplell

If I had 750 million dollars and the tables had no maximum with a minimum of $5, I could bet on a single 3rd 27 times in a row, and my profit would be $5+my final bet amount.

This system can be beaten, however very rare.

And that folks, is why there are table maximums...



Table maximum's are not there to stop progress on a loss bettors (martingales, d'alembert etc.).

If a player offered to Martingale and Martingale only, the casino would offer a higher limit.... they risk $5 each time for a chance to take your entire roll.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
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