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December 26th, 2018 at 10:28:24 AM permalink
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Iran, Sudan, Syria, NK....


Why do you think not Saudi Arabia?
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December 26th, 2018 at 10:43:04 AM permalink
Air Force One spotted in the UK headed into Central Europe.

Looks like they took all that criticism about Donald never visiting the troops seriously and hes making an unannounced trip to the Middle East.
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December 26th, 2018 at 11:01:37 AM permalink
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Why do you think not Saudi Arabia?



They are the good guys.
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December 26th, 2018 at 11:02:20 AM permalink
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Ireland? Yes, at the time, and for decades after, absolutely. There was a big ruckus when the head of Sinn Fein was denied a visitor visa by the State Department back in the 90s because they knew he was coming here to fundraise for them in Boston.

When I traveled to London over NYE 1977-78, there was still a travel advisory on Ireland. And sure enough, we were partying in London that night and an IRA bomb went off down the block, and we all got evacuated onto the street about 11:30 that night. Ironically in hindsight, we were partying with a group of Saudi businessmen in the Playboy Club, then went to a late dinner and midnight show at a nearby cabaret.

So yeah, there was a lot more going on than that with the Irish, but it was very touchy because of the large group of Irish supporters up in the NE US. Now, of course, the Irish are our friends, and the Saudis are harboring the terrorists.

Where can I find this official list?
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December 26th, 2018 at 11:06:23 AM permalink
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Where can I find this official list?



This is one way to access the database:

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages.html

You ask about a country or area, it offers you advisories, warnings, and prohibitions, if any.
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December 26th, 2018 at 11:37:34 AM permalink
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Iran, Sudan, Syria, NK....

Mostly country's that don't belong to the central bank.

General Wesley Clark, "7 countries in 5 years"

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December 26th, 2018 at 1:44:37 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

This is one way to access the database:

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages.html

You ask about a country or area, it offers you advisories, warnings, and prohibitions, if any.

Does it date back to the 70's?
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December 26th, 2018 at 1:49:30 PM permalink
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Does it date back to the 70's?



I don't know. I've only ever checked current restrictions.
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December 26th, 2018 at 1:55:33 PM permalink
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I don't know. I've only ever checked current restrictions.

Then how do you know they were officially listed as a terrorist organization in the USA?

Please provide proof.
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December 26th, 2018 at 2:50:19 PM permalink
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Then how do you know they were officially listed as a terrorist organization in the USA?

Please provide proof.



Because when I went over there in 1977, as part of a college 3 week tour, we had to acknowledge a State Department warning about the IRA activities in London.

Heres some proof. Just in case you get stuck behind a paywall, here's an excerpt.

Quote: New York Times



State Department Adds the Real I.R.A. to List of Terror Groups
By MARC LACEY
May 17, 2001
The State Department added the Real Irish Republican Army to the government's official list of terrorist organizations today, blaming the group for a campaign of violence in Northern Ireland and Britain in recent years.

The Real I.R.A. has used bombings and other attacks to try to derail the 1998 peace accord that paved the way for a power-sharing government in Northern Ireland. The group, which as recently as last month vowed to continue its anti-British hostilities, seeks the unification of predominantly Protestant Northern Ireland with the largely Roman Catholic Republic of Ireland.

Designation as a foreign terrorist organization bans the Real I.R.A. from raising money in the United States, freezes any bank holdings it has in this country and restricts entry into the United States for Real I.R.A. leaders and members.

''The group has made clear that its terrorist attacks are motivated by a desire to undermine the Good Friday agreement, which was approved by the major political parties in Northern Ireland in April of 1998 and was overwhelmingly endorsed in a referendum by the people of Northern Ireland and by the Republic of Ireland,'' said the State Department spokesman, Richard Boucher.

More than 20 suspected members have been jailed in recent years, including Michael McKevitt, the organization's reported commander, who was arrested on March 29 and is being held without bail on terrorism charges. The group's most lethal attack was an August 1998 car bombing in Omagh, Northern Ireland, that killed 29 people and wounded hundreds of others.

David Trimble, the Protestant leader of Northern Ireland's coalition government, said the State Department action ''will deny the Real I.R.A. an important source of fund-raising and will refuse their apologists and supporters access to the U.S.A.''

But Gerry Adams, leader of Sinn Fein, the political wing of the Irish Republican Army, said the designation of the more radical Real I.R.A. as a terrorist group would probably increase the dissidents' standing among hard-liners.



They had been on it previously (like when I was over there) but the 1998 Accord had taken them off it as one of the conditions (I think). But this was the first Google evidence I turned up that they had been declared terrorists at any time. So there's some proof for you.

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/17/world/state-department-adds-the-real-ira-to-list-of-terror-groups.html

See also the 90s argument with Clinton about Gerry Adams:

https://www.nytimes.com/1995/03/10/world/clinton-to-permit-fund-raising-in-the-us-by-top-ira-figure.html

(This is a digitized photo of the Times from before they archived digital copies of text. If you can't read it, let me know.)
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