Quote: beachbumbabsSenate gave up and went home for Christmas. Unless House passes Senate Wall-free bill (and Trump signs it), govt will remain shut down until at least Thurs when the Senate returns.
Trump would rather screw over 300-400k employees for their EOY paychecks and likely their Christmas funds, than restore the govt. What a putz. Especially after he had agreed to the Senate bill before they went ahead to vote on it, then reneged. And after he canceled their raises. And their COLA increases, both budgeted for next year.
As to the wars, I won't pretend to be a military strategist. But I look at Mattis as the best we have. And he resigned over it.
So no, we should not be doing it. We leave our allies in the ditch, the people we were helping unprotected, and the many billions we spent wasted, if we don't finish the job and withdraw in a manner that does not allow ISIS to regroup and prevail.
Not to mention all the Americans killed and wounded. Them most of all, IMO. This is a dishonorable non-resolution that betrays their sacrifice. But I consider that more of a personal bias, since so many here care more about money than honor or integrity of the government.
As often happens, Trump has a good idea, to get us out of the s....... countries that scorn civilization, but he can’t figure out an adult way to do so. Letting our allies know, behind closed doors, that we will be leaving, so they can either join us or do what they want.
Border protection is an admirable goal, but not to the detriment of the rest of the country.
Please SOMEONE offer me a bet on the 2020 Presidential election. I want ABT. (Anyone but Trump)
Quote: darkozIf I remember the joke correctly...
How do Jewish people celebrate Christmas?
They dance around the cash register singing "What a friend we have in Jesus"
Remember, Jesus was a nice Jewish boy. Probably was celebrating Hanukkah around ‘Christmas’ time!
Quote: SOOPOORemember, Jesus was a nice Jewish boy. Probably was celebrating Hanukkah around ‘Christmas’ time!
Yes I know
A nice Jewish boy with Blond hair and Blue eyes
Hmmm, wait a minute, this requires some thinking
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Hmmm, wait a minute, this requires some thinking
How dare you. This is politics. We don't do that here.
Quote: FaceHow dare you. This is politics. We don't do that here.
Sorry Face. You are right
Its just the President DON is tying me up in KNOTTS

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They need to not back pay people when it is over. Probably going to back pay $20B in wages for no services rendered to argue about $5B. I think we just gave $10B to South America. People need to wake up and start figuring out that government is not working for their best interests.
Fire up the stills while the revenuers are on vacation.

So you’re saying terrorists are coming from the Middle East? Well then I’m sure you would agree with Trump’s travel ban restricting entry of people from those countries.Quote: darkozSo you believe the terrorists are coming from Mexico and NOT the middle east
Smh