Trump's Second and Third year in office
Quote: EvenBob
That's why Hoggy boy is called a Nazi,
that's what he wants to happen here.
.
I yawn at Kyle Kushov
EB is really scared of Hogg
ROTFL
*shrug*
Quote: terapinedEB is really scared of Hogg
All the righties are for some reason.
Hogg and Avenatti really drive them mad.
Quote: ams288I hadn't heard about David Hogg for a couple of weeks
Yet you thought at the time he
was popular that he was a mover
and a shaker, he was changing
things. When I posted a quote from
Scott Adams that Hoggy was a flash
in the pan, he was changing nothing,
you guffawed.
Yet here you are a month later, and
even you have forgotten about Hoggy
already. Amazing..
Quote: EvenBobYet you thought at the time he
was popular that he was a mover
and a shaker, he was changing
things. When I posted a quote from
Scott Adams that Hoggy was a flash
in the pan, he was changing nothing,
you guffawed.
Yet here you are a month later, and
even you have forgotten about Hoggy
already. Amazing..
Well, he's still driving you righties insane even though he hasn't been in the news for a month. That shows how powerful he has been.
So looks like I was right to "guffaw" at your copy and paste nonsense.
Quote: SteverinosDavid Hogg has demonstrated he's perfectly capable of handling himself and the criticism from gun owners who think they are in a militia.
I've seen very little of him, and almost no video (mostly a few transcripts). In what little I've seen, I've no argument.
Quote: SteverContrast that to the right-wing media who have demonstrated they are NOT capable of handling themselves in a professional and GROWN UP way, evidenced by the multiple lies and conspiracy theories they spread about those kids.
Right wing media is crazy, you say? I figured Anchorage for you, turns out you must be from Deadhorse if you're just now realizing this lol
Quote: terapined
I yawn and you go nuts
I did? I mean, I see you say "conservatives go nuts", but I took a test here last month that says I'm 55% liberal (accurate), so that can't be it. I also just posted that I've said almost nothing about Hogg, because I haven't, because he doesn't matter all that much to me.
So did I go nuts, or have you been captured by the adversarial, we v thee of modern media? That's of course a loaded question. Feel free to answer in your own words.
Quote: FaceI also just posted that I've said almost nothing about Hogg, because I haven't, because he doesn't matter all that much to me.
exactly
Don't agree with the march, ignore the march
NRA just had a huge convention in TX
Trump and Pence spoke
I only made fun of the gun ban, otherwise, I just ignored it
Don't agree with Hogg, ignore him
I don't agree with Kyle Kushov. I ignore him
Hmm, EB still going nuts over Hogg
Should have faded away
I see EB keeping Hogg alive on this board lol
Quote: FaceI did? I mean, I see you say "conservatives go nuts",
Yeah, Terapined says that about every
opinion we make, that we've gone 'nuts'
over something. Him and AMS say it so
often that it's lost all meaning.
I love picking on Hoggy because he's
so beloved on the Left and he's so
100% wrong on every issue he stands
for. As has been shown by his rapid
disappearance from public view.
Quote: aceofspadesI'll just leave this here
Pics of girls with guns always makes
my day. Love them, bless their hearts..
Quote: EvenBobAnd that's what Hitler did when he
was elected in Germany. He went
door to door to door and collected
all the guns of the citizens, even the
hunting rifles. And if you refused to
submit to a search you were hauled
to jail.
That's why Hoggy boy is called a Nazi,
that's what he wants to happen here.
An unarmed populace is a defenseless
one, and that's what's really at the
bottom of this.
How many times are you going to tell this untrue statement? Private gun ownership in Germany was banned in 1919. When Hitler came to power, he eased gun control laws, not strengthened them. He lowered the age of gun ownership to 18 from 20 and exempted millions of people from any regulations at all.
From Wiki, but there are only about a million other places you can find these laws.
The Treaty of Versailles included firearm reducing stipulations. Article 169 targeted the state: "Within two months from the coming into force of the present Treaty, German arms, munitions, and war material, including anti-aircraft material, existing in Germany in excess of the quantities allowed, must be surrendered to the Governments of the Principal Allied and Associated Powers to be destroyed or rendered useless."[4]
In 1919 the German government passed the Regulations on Weapons Ownership, which declared that "all firearms, as well as all kinds of firearms ammunition, are to be surrendered immediately."[5] Under the regulations, anyone found in possession of a firearm or ammunition was subject to five years' imprisonment and a fine of 100,000 marks.
On August 7, 1920, rising fears whether or not Germany could have rebellions prompted the government to enact a second gun-regulation law called the Law on the Disarmament of the People. It put into effect the provisions of the Versailles Treaty in regard to the limit on military-type weapons.
In 1928 the Law on Firearms and Ammunition was enacted. It relaxed gun restrictions and put into effect a strict firearm licensing scheme. Under this scheme, Germans could possess firearms, but were required to have separate permits to do the following: own or sell firearms, carry firearms (including handguns), manufacture firearms, and professionally deal in firearms and ammunition.
Hitler's 1938 revised law actually made it easier for most Germans to possess guns. There was no nationwide house to house dragnet.
Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, and the possession of ammunition.[8]
The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.[9]
Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.[9]
Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP (the National Socialist German Workers' Party) members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[8]
Manufacture of arms and ammunition continued to require a permit, with the proviso that such permits would no longer be issued to any company even partly owned by Jews; Jews could not manufacture or deal in firearms or ammunition.[8]
Under both the 1928 and 1938 acts, gun manufacturers and dealers were required to maintain records about purchasers of guns, with serial numbers. These records were to be delivered to a police authority for inspection at the end of each year.
Black customer ridiculed and threatened (yes, surrounding someone's table and punching your fist into your hand is a non-verbal threat) by employees at Cheesecake Factory for wearing a MAGA hat
Will Cheesecake Factory close for a day like Starbuck's did to train their employees in racial sensitivity?
http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2018/05/15/black-trump-supporter-attacked-at-cheesecake-factory-over-maga-hat-report.html
Quote: billryanHow many times are you going to tell this untrue statement?
There is no denying that many of the pre-war activities contributed to Hitler’s ability to disarm targeted groups, particularly the Jews. The rapid pace with which Hitler disarmed the populace in Germany is startling.. The prohibitions enacted by the Nazi regime led to monopoly control of firearms by the Nazis and eliminated the ability of many groups in society to defend themselves.. Search and seizure of homes was authorized. This carte blanche for search and seizure essentially became the modus operandi of the Third Reich.. identify the so-called enemies of the state, locate them, interview them, and subsequently confiscate their weapons, thereby increasing Nazi control and eliminating private ownership of firearms from the majority of society.
systematic creation and manipulation of firearms registration and regulations, coupled with the decimation of individual citizen’s rights, enabled Hitler’s dictatorship and the slaughter of millions of innocent Jews and citizens of Nazi-occupied countries, as well as tens of thousands of Germans. It remains for all of us to wonder what might have been had people refused to register their firearms. Indeed, we should all take note and never forget.
https://mises.org/library/gun-control-nazi-germany
Quote: EvenBob
I love picking on Hoggy because he's
so beloved on the Left and he's so
100% wrong on every issue he stands
for.
Hogg is ok with guns in his his home.
His father is FBI
Are you seriously against him on this issue?
ROTFL
Hogg does not want a gun ban
Quote: aceofspadesThe tolerant Left
Black customer ridiculed and threatened (yes, surrounding someone's table and punching your fist into your hand is a non-verbal threat) by employees at Cheesecake Factory for wearing a MAGA hat
Will Cheesecake Factory close for a day like Starbuck's did to train their employees in racial sensitivity?
http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2018/05/15/black-trump-supporter-attacked-at-cheesecake-factory-over-maga-hat-report.html
Thats Fox news. Please link to legitimate news service for credibility
Quote: aceofspades
Will Cheesecake Factory close for a day like Starbuck's did to train their employees in racial sensitivity?
+1
Quote: aceofspadesThe tolerant Left
Black customer ridiculed and threatened (yes, surrounding someone's table and punching your fist into your hand is a non-verbal threat) by employees at Cheesecake Factory for wearing a MAGA hat
Will Cheesecake Factory close for a day like Starbuck's did to train their employees in racial sensitivity?
http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2018/05/15/black-trump-supporter-attacked-at-cheesecake-factory-over-maga-hat-report.html
I am very tolerant
If I was there. I would support the Black customer
I TOTALLY support freedom of speech regardless of politics.
Quote: darkozThats Fox news. Please link to legitimate news service for credibility
Rather than pass the buck onto you to prove to yourself - I will actually post additional link
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cheesecake-factory-maga-hat-incident/
Quote: aceofspadesRather than pass the buck onto you to prove to yourself - I will actually post additional link
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cheesecake-factory-maga-hat-incident/
This is meaningless
Of course there are a**holes on the left and right
Again
I would support the Black customer if I was there
Do you actually believe a**holes on the left represent everybody on the left but a**holes on the right don't represent the right
Very illogical
I agree
Probably not a lawyer
Quote: EvenBobThere is no denying that many of the pre-war activities contributed to Hitler’s ability to disarm targeted groups, particularly the Jews. The rapid pace with which Hitler disarmed the populace in Germany is startling.. The prohibitions enacted by the Nazi regime led to monopoly control of firearms by the Nazis and eliminated the ability of many groups in society to defend themselves.. Search and seizure of homes was authorized. This carte blanche for search and seizure essentially became the modus operandi of the Third Reich.. identify the so-called enemies of the state, locate them, interview them, and subsequently confiscate their weapons, thereby increasing Nazi control and eliminating private ownership of firearms from the majority of society.
systematic creation and manipulation of firearms registration and regulations, coupled with the decimation of individual citizen’s rights, enabled Hitler’s dictatorship and the slaughter of millions of innocent Jews and citizens of Nazi-occupied countries, as well as tens of thousands of Germans. It remains for all of us to wonder what might have been had people refused to register their firearms. Indeed, we should all take note and never forget.
https://mises.org/library/gun-control-nazi-germany
So, if you ignore the 1919, 1923 and 1928 laws adopted long before Hitler came to power, I suppose you can blame the Nazis, even though the Nazi era law is much more lenient than the previous laws. Kind of like blaming Obama for food stamps, but go right ahead. Why let a pesky little thing like facts get in the way.
Quote: terapinedHogg is ok with guns in his his home.
His father is FBI
Are you seriously against him on this issue?
ROTFL
Hogg does not want a gun ban
Yawn
Lefties going nuts over
Someone else’s opinion?
If you don’t like what
EB writes, you can ignore him
Take your own advice
Yawn
Why are lefties going nuts
over what EB writes? ROTFL
Quote: EvenBobHow many times has Trump been called
Hitler by the Left, thousands? I don't get
your point.
If conservatives don't know the difference between adults attacking a high school kid reacting to a school shooting, and supposedly a mature man who is President, you've made a new case for conservative stupidity.
Quote: RSYawn
Lefties going nuts over
Someone else’s opinion?
If you don’t like what
EB writes, you can ignore him
Take your own advice
Yawn
Why are lefties going nuts
over what EB writes? ROTFL
Because its fun to make fun of the illogical conclusions such as saying Hogg is wrong 100%
Hogg is ok with guns in his house
Its just funny EB does not agree with Hogg on this
I would never ever call EB a Nazi
That's for people that are nuts and crazy to use that term
Quote: aceofspadesRather than pass the buck onto you to prove to yourself - I will actually post additional link
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cheesecake-factory-maga-hat-incident/
Thanks
Well its pretty reprehensible and Im glad cheesecake factory suspended the workers
Their are lefties who go too far as their are righties. Just recognize that and we all will get along on WOV :)
Quote: darkoz
Well its pretty reprehensible and Im glad cheesecake factory suspended the workers
Their are lefties who go too far as their are righties. Just recognize that and we all will get along on WOV :)
Totally agree
When it comes to freedom of speech, somebodies politics is meaningless
Quote: terapinedBecause its fun to make fun of the illogical conclusions such as saying Hogg is wrong 100%
Hogg is ok with guns in his house
Its just funny EB does not agree with Hogg on this
I would never ever call EB a Nazi
That's for people that are nuts and crazy to use that term
Yeah, because his dad’s in the FBI.
Yawn
Of course he’d be okay with that.
ROTFL
Who wouldn’t be?
:)
Quote: rxwineadults attacking a high school kid
What does his age have to do with it,
does it give him a pass to make asinine
statements that go unchallenged? You
think it's wonderful that you agree with
him, and awful he's attacked? Double
standard, hear you loud and clear.
Quote: terapinedThis is meaningless
Of course there are a**holes on the left and right
Again
I would support the Black customer if I was there
Do you actually believe a**holes on the left represent everybody on the left but a**holes on the right don't represent the right
Very illogical
I agree
Probably not a lawyer
Definitely not a lawyer
Quote: aceofspadesI'll just leave this here
And we may have a new contender for Ace’s next Bachelor show winner.
Quote: aceofspadesThe tolerant Left
Black customer ridiculed and threatened (yes, surrounding someone's table and punching your fist into your hand is a non-verbal threat) by employees at Cheesecake Factory for wearing a MAGA hat
Will Cheesecake Factory close for a day like Starbuck's did to train their employees in racial sensitivity?
http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2018/05/15/black-trump-supporter-attacked-at-cheesecake-factory-over-maga-hat-report.html
How is this not Racial Intimidation? Obama’s Justice Department would have been all over this....if the citizen was attacked over an Obama hat.
I’m not a lawyer either.
Quote: EvenBobWhat does his age have to do with it,
does it give him a pass to make asinine
statements that go unchallenged? You
think it's wonderful that you agree with
him, and awful he's attacked? Double
standard, hear you loud and clear.
I've not attacked pro gun's kids victims in school shootings for their views.
Sorry, you lose.
That's a complete disgrace. Not even defendable. If you do that stuff you should just go stick your head in poop as you're not doing anything useful with it, might as well bury it in what it resembles.
Maybe terapined won't end up losing that bet after all...
Quote: ams288Looks like the NK summit is on shaky ground at the moment.
Maybe terapined won't end up losing that bet after all...
Which is exactly why I said, Never count a win until it’s a win. Still a tossup.
Quote: rxwineI've not attacked pro gun's kids victims in school shootings for their views.
Sorry, you lose.
So there are certain people you can get after for their views and others whom you can’t?
Seems like people nowadays think attacking certain people is off limits. If someone says something stupid or something worth challenging, then challenge them.
Something that just came to my mind — remember when Trump “made fun of” the Iraqi or Saudi or whatever parents, when their (parents’) son was killed (in war, IIRC) or something? The parents were playing it off like THEY sacrificed something. No, they didn’t do jack s***! It was their son who made the sacrifice for our county, not his parents (unless there’s some extraordinary circumstances). If you’re gonna make a stupid ass comment, don’t try to hide behind some “but my son died in war, you can’t attack me!!!” BS.
Who's surprised, not Trump. He talks
about this all the time. Kim better toe
the line or there will be no talks. That's
fine, the sanctions will get them if the
talks don't. Their nuke program is done
either way, N Korea is flat broke.
Quote: RSSo there are certain people you can get after for their views and others whom you can’t?
I didn't say one can't, I'm just pointing out the disparity of firepower in adults vs. a high school kid. Plus I consider him more a victim than someone who has just a contrary viewpoint.
You think I agree with kids on tv who are conservatives. You think I go on TV and attack them if I could? I wouldn't. I would look like an idiot who has to beat up on kids who suffered from some attack. I"ve got plenty of adults to attack with the same viewpoints.
I'm certainly not going to attack a kid who blames the law in his state for why his family didn't have a gun if he suffered from a shooting, if that's the argument he wants to make. I'll just attack the grownups in the NRA that support his view if I disagree with it.
Also, not a loss to lose a son in a war? News to me. I'm thinking quite a few people who lost their sons or daughters would disagree.
Boz, dammit, that was hilarious. Well done =).Quote: Boz...And we may have a new contender for Ace’s next Bachelor show winner.
Quote: RomesBoz, dammit, that was hilarious. Well done =).
I LOL'd 😂
Quote: EvenBobWhat does his age have to do with it,
does it give him a pass to make asinine
statements that go unchallenged? You
think it's wonderful that you agree with
him, and awful he's attacked? Double
standard, hear you loud and clear.
I don't go after children
Kyle Kushov has met with Trump and has spoken out a lot on foxnews
he is pro gun and pro NRA
I totally support his freedom of speech
I totally encourage him to get involved
He could start a massive march on DC for all I care.
That's his business
Will I listen to him? Of course not, he's just a kid
Will I call him a Nazi, no way. Only people that are nuts and crazy call people they disagree with a Nazi
Will I criticize him in any way. Of course not, he's just a kid
When it comes to politics, I ignore the youngsters views regardless if lib or conservative
That's how adults conduct themselves regarding children
Quote: aceofspadesI LOL'd 😂
And you play a lawyer on TV..
Quote: EvenBobAnd you play a lawyer on TV..
Indeed - EB, it took them years to catch on to my "lawyer schtick" but, doggone it - they found me out - I actually colluded with Russia to obtain a fake law degree (U of Moscow!!!)
Quote: rxwineIf conservatives don't know the difference between adults attacking a high school kid reacting to a school shooting, and supposedly a mature man who is President, you've made a new case for conservative stupidity.
They are not "kids" at that age. Hogg wants to be some kind of spokeman for his cause then he needs to man up and not complain when he gets return fire.
Quote: AZDuffmanThey are not "kids" at that age. Hogg wants to be some kind of spokeman for his cause then he needs to man up and not complain when he gets return fire.
When has he complained? And return fire means...lies and conspiracies?
Quote: AZDuffmanThey are not "kids" at that age. Hogg wants to be some kind of spokeman for his cause then he needs to man up and not complain when he gets return fire.
You referring to the conservative student that wanted to debate 2A with him and Hogg kept backing out of it?
Quote: GlenGYou referring to the conservative student that wanted to debate 2A with him and Hogg kept backing out of it?
Its the smart move
The entire conservative movement knows and writes about David Hogg
He gets a huge amount of attention.
He speaks, ALL conservatives listen
EB and AZ cant stop posting about him.
Breibart reporting on Hogg borders on compulsive.
Breibart reports on all things regarding Hogg
I want to know what Hogg has been doing lately, I go to Breibart.
Kyle Kushov is not close to being where Hogg is.
Liberal media pretty much ignores him. He's just a kid.
He's much ado about nothing. Nobody cares including me
Why let Kyle get that attention over a debate that will accomplish as much as the political discussions here which is nothing.
Its the smart move not to let Kyle get the attention he craves
Quote: RSSo there are certain people you can get after for their views and others whom you can’t?
Seems like people nowadays think attacking certain people is off limits. If someone says something stupid or something worth challenging, then challenge them.
Something that just came to my mind — remember when Trump “made fun of” the Iraqi or Saudi or whatever parents, when their (parents’) son was killed (in war, IIRC) or something? The parents were playing it off like THEY sacrificed something. No, they didn’t do jack s***! It was their son who made the sacrifice for our county, not his parents (unless there’s some extraordinary circumstances). If you’re gonna make a stupid ass comment, don’t try to hide behind some “but my son died in war, you can’t attack me!!!” BS.
Gold Star Parents are an honored tradition in this country. "What is that line from the bible- He so loved the world he gave his only begotten son. "
Insult a Gold Star parent and you attack the entire military.
That you don't get it is pretty telling.
The US Army officially calls the bereaved family members "gold star survivors."
"The Army recognizes that no one has given more for the nation than the families of the fallen," the Army's website says in its official description.
"Gold Star families are special, to say the least," said retired Gen. John Kelly, whose son, a US Marine officer, was killed in Afghanistan in 2010.
"I'm not, but they are," he told a Pentagon news conference in January.
It is not known precisely how many Gold Star families there are, but over 6,000 US service members have died in the recent conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The last Sunday of September is observed as Gold Star Mothers' and Families' Day. The day was first observed in 1936.
The last thing any parent wants is to be a member of this circle.
Quote: rxwineI didn't say one can't, I'm just pointing out the disparity of firepower in adults vs. a high school kid. Plus I consider him more a victim than someone who has just a contrary viewpoint.
You think I agree with kids on tv who are conservatives. You think I go on TV and attack them if I could? I wouldn't. I would look like an idiot who has to beat up on kids who suffered from some attack. I"ve got plenty of adults to attack with the same viewpoints.
I'm certainly not going to attack a kid who blames the law in his state for why his family didn't have a gun if he suffered from a shooting, if that's the argument he wants to make. I'll just attack the grownups in the NRA that support his view if I disagree with it.
If you put yourself out there, then it should be expected people will disagree with you and not like what you say and even attack what you say, whether you’re a kid or a grown adult or any other comparison.
Quote: rxwineAlso, not a loss to lose a son in a war? News to me. I'm thinking quite a few people who lost their sons or daughters would disagree.
I didn’t say that. I’m just saying I disagree with the idea that someone else sacrificed something in that case. If one of my family members died in a war, did I sacrifice anything? I shouldn’t be praised for what (hypothetically) my brother has done.
Kinda reminds me of SOME women who have this “you can’t hit me because I’m a woman” attitude and try to fight men....and when they get clobbered back, they play the victim card “You can’t attack me because _______!!” If you don’t want to be attacked, don’t attack other people. Simple.
Quote: billryanGold Star Parents are an honored tradition in this country. "What is that line from the bible- He so loved the world he gave his only begotten son. "
Insult a Gold Star parent and you attack the entire military.
That you don't get it is pretty telling.
Being a Gold Star parent does not give you a pass once you put yourself out there in the limelight. It is not a free pass.
