Trump's Second and Third year in office
What was said about him yesterday by a Trump staffer is indefensible and the WH should publicly apologize. But they haven't, and probably won't, because the tone is set from the top, and he never apologizes for anything.
Quote: EvenBobMcCain is now whining that Sarah Palin
is why he lost in 08. Yeah, that's the reason,
RINO. Snicker, guffaw.
GWB is why he lost in 08.
Quote: AZDuffmanAnd it worked beautifully! But I am still trying to cash my check as that Russian bank has been hard to cash.
The JFK assassin on the grassy knoll will cash your check. Gee, talk about a conspiracy. Organized and deliberate LOL
Quote: EvenBobMcCain is now whining that Sarah Palin
is why he lost in 08. Yeah, that's the reason,
RINO. Snicker, guffaw.
Always liked McCain
I appreciate all our war heroes regardless of their politics
They put their life on the line for our freedom
Once McCain picked Palin, that sealed my Obama vote
Quote: SteverinosMcCain is a true American hero and a Patriot. We have freedom today because of guys like him.
What was said about him yesterday by a Trump staffer is indefensible and the WH should publicly apologize. But they haven't, and probably won't, because the tone is set from the top, and he never apologizes for anything.
McCain does not deserve an apology. Those that want respect give respect. McCain is still upset Trump won where he got clobbered.
Quote: EvenBobMcCain is now whining that Sarah Palin
is why he lost in 08. Yeah, that's the reason,
RINO. Snicker, guffaw.
Sarah Palin is 100% the reason why McCain lost my vote. I know I'm not the only one. I completely abstained from voting that year because I didn't want to vote for Obama. McCain fell into the same trap that Romney did -- a middle-of-the-road Republican tries to pander too far to the right and it blows their chance with moderates and left-of-center America.
Quote: petroglyphSarah Palin showing some support for the B.O.R. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-11/sarah-palin-speaks-out-julian-assange-after-ecuadorian-embassy-cuts-phone-calls
Bravo Sarah
Remember the good ol' days when conservatives and Republicans hated Julian Assange and Wikileaks? I remember... Then as soon as he started going after Hillary it was like, "WTF, I love Julian Assange now! What a great hero he is!"
Quote: ams288"Pinning their hopes" is a strange term to use here.
The only thing I'm "pinning my hopes" to in regards to Avenatti is that he keeps being a pain in the ass for Donald and Cohen.
Am I "pinning my hopes" to him getting Donald impeached or something? Nah.
As for the NDA, Avenatti had nothing to do with it. It was a different lawyer who got Stormy to sign it. And that lawyer was most likely working with Cohen behind Stormy's back.
So are you saying contracts are only enforceable if the party has the same attorney when they want to get out of it?
Example:
I agree to buy 1000 widgets from Party A
My attorney "X" drafts the contract
I sign the contract and Party A signs the contract
I fire "X" and hire "Y" as my new attorney
Somehow, this nullifies the contract?
She is sticking up for American's rights.Quote: ams288The Bill of Rights does not apply to Australians who are holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy in London.
Julian is Australian.
Don't you think Australians should have free speech?
Quote: TigerWuThe Right not caring about investigating any serious crimes that may have been committed simply because someone has an "R" next to their name.
I will ask this again - name the 'serious crime' Trump committed - please cite the Federal statute he has violated (remember, "collusion" is not a crime)
Quote: petroglyphSarah Palin showing some support for the B.O.R. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-11/sarah-palin-speaks-out-julian-assange-after-ecuadorian-embassy-cuts-phone-calls
Bravo Sarah
Sarah Palin, Rudy G.
Who is next? Going to roll out Bob Dole?
Quote: aceofspadesSo are you saying contracts are only enforceable if the party has the same attorney when they want to get out of it?
Example:
I agree to buy 1000 widgets from Party A
My attorney "X" drafts the contract
I sign the contract and Party A signs the contract
I fire "X" and hire "Y" as my new attorney
Somehow, this nullifies the contract?
Nope, that's not what I'm saying at all.
Also, in Stormy's case, Party A never signed the contract. And "X" was conspiring with Party A's lawyer behind her back.
Quote: aceofspadesSo are you saying contracts are only enforceable if the party has the same attorney when they want to get out of it?
Example:
I agree to buy 1000 widgets from Party A
My attorney "X" drafts the contract
I sign the contract and Party A signs the contract
I fire "X" and hire "Y" as my new attorney
Somehow, this nullifies the contract?
Their argument is the other side breached first. What kind of law do you practice, by the way?
Quote: ams288Nope, that's not what I'm saying at all.
Also, in Stormy's case, Party A never signed the contract. And "X" was conspiring with Party A's lawyer behind her back.
Not a lawyer, but wasn't the contract law when she cashed the check ? And her lawyer took his cut too ? Ir maybe she gave the money back, I mean as a porn star she has a reputation to protect.
Quote: ams288Nope, that's not what I'm saying at all.
Also, in Stormy's case, Party A never signed the contract. And "X" was conspiring with Party A's lawyer behind her back.
In a multitude of situations, attorneys can sign contracts on behalf of their clients (here is a good blog post about that)
Conspiring to get Stormy $130,000 for a consensual sexual encounter?
Quote: terapinedAlways liked McCain
I appreciate all our war heroes regardless of their politics
They put their life on the line for our freedom...
Yeah, North Vietnam was such a threat to us here!
I'll say it again. McCain should be sent back and tortured for the rest of his POS life!!
I remember everybody hating on him for exposing the atrocities we were committing with cia "black sites" and the helicopter gunship in Iraq fiasco. Killing two journalists.Quote: TigerWuRemember the good ol' days when conservatives and Republicans hated Julian Assange and Wikileaks? I remember... Then as soon as he started going after Hillary it was like, "WTF, I love Julian Assange now! What a great hero he is!"
Start at :30 That was Assange's crime, exposing us.
Quote: billryanTheir argument is the other side breached first. What kind of law do you practice, by the way?
Please point me to the evidence that Trump breached first
That was way to much.Quote: aceofspadesConspiring to get Stormy $130,000 for a consensual sexual encounter?
Quote: aceofspadesI will ask this again - name the 'serious crime' Trump committed - please cite the Federal statute he has violated (remember, "collusion" is not a crime)
No idea. I'm not a lawyer, prosecutor, defendant, plaintiff, and I am in no way connected to any of these cases or alleged criminal infractions. That's why I'm waiting for all of these investigations to run their course so hopefully the innocent will go free and the guilty will go to jail.
Don't you want the same? If Trump & Co. are guilty of something wouldn't you want them punished for it? If they are completely innocent wouldn't you want their names cleared?
Quote: aceofspadesPlease point me to the evidence that Trump breached first
Trump wasn't a party. Cohen breached first.
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/02/14/manager-stormy-daniels-free-violate-nda-now-trumps-lawyer-spoken-publicly/
Quote: aceofspadesIn a multitude of situations, attorneys can sign contracts on behalf of their clients (here is a good blog post about that)
Did Cohen have it in writing by Trump?
from the blog
"Unless you have given your attorney approval to sign for your in writing, most of the time he/she is not able to sign for you. "
Quote: billryanMost polls had Clinton winning by 3 or 4 points. She won the popular vote by about two points. How was that wrong?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/polls-hillary-clinton-win_us_5821074ce4b0e80b02cc2a94
98.2% chance of winning. Biased poll anyone? I agree Nate Silver has the most accurate way of projecting.
Quote: terapinedQuote: aceofspadesIn a multitude of situations, attorneys can sign contracts on behalf of their clients (here is a good blog post about that)
Did Cohen have it in writing by Trump?
from the blog
"Unless you have given your attorney approval to sign for your in writing, most of the time he/she is not able to sign for you. "
Read the entire article please
Quote: ams288GWB is why he lost in 08.
No argument, no Republican was winning in 08 between Bush and a dynamic candidate on the left who had an inspiring message. But that same dynamic individual is part of why Trump won by disillusioning many who elected him and stayed home in 16.
Quote: aceofspadesQuote: terapinedQuote: aceofspadesIn a multitude of situations, attorneys can sign contracts on behalf of their clients (here is a good blog post about that)
Did Cohen have it in writing by Trump?
from the blog
"Unless you have given your attorney approval to sign for your in writing, most of the time he/she is not able to sign for you. "
Read the entire article please
I did
Did Cohen have it in writing by Trump?
still waiting for an answer :-)
When researching law, do you go to blog posts?
Quote: AZDuffmanMcCain is still upset Trump won where he got clobbered.
McCain could not believe a real estate
tycoon/reality TV star could beat him,
a super hero war vet. He's never gotten
over it, his ego is that big. Sarah Palin
gave him hope, but not nearly enough
to overcome his unlikeability as a
candidate.
At least Obama was a good speaker in
08, we had no idea yet that he was an
empty suit.
Quote: EvenBobMcCain could not believe a real estate
tycoon/reality TV star could beat him,
a super hero war vet. He's never gotten
over it, his ego is that big. Sarah Palin
gave him hope, but not nearly enough
to overcome his unlikeability as a
candidate.
And he will die a very bitter old man.
At least Obama was a good speaker in
08, we had no idea yet that he was an
empty suit.
Maybe you didn't, I did. He just talked platitudes and old ideas that never worked. I never really liked his speaking style, it puts me to sleep. Just a bunch of word soup that says nothing and leaves him uncommitted lest things change later. I will concede he can totally draw certain types of people in with his voice rhythms. They get hypnotized by him. Look at how many people loved him but could not give one reason why.
Quote: Boz
98.2% chance of winning.
Then what was her chance of winning?
Quote: AZDuffmanHe just talked platitudes and old ideas that never worked. I never really liked his speaking style, it puts me to sleep. Just a bunch of word soup that says nothing and leaves him uncommitted lest things change later. I will concede he can totally draw certain types of people in with his voice rhythms. They get hypnotized by him. Look at how many people loved him but could not give one reason why.
You sure you're not talking about Trump?
Quote: terapinedQuote: aceofspadesQuote: terapinedQuote: aceofspadesIn a multitude of situations, attorneys can sign contracts on behalf of their clients (here is a good blog post about that)
Did Cohen have it in writing by Trump?
from the blog
"Unless you have given your attorney approval to sign for your in writing, most of the time he/she is not able to sign for you. "
Read the entire article please
I did
Did Cohen have it in writing by Trump?
still waiting for an answer :-)
When researching law, do you go to blog posts?
Guess you did not read the part about "implied consent"
When I research law and draft legal briefs, they are deep discussions of the law - I am not going to put together a 20 page brief for you with citations to all the applicable statutes, case law and common law -- trying to provide you with a cursory overview
Quote: edwardjsmithNot a lawyer, but wasn't the contract law when she cashed the check ? And her lawyer took his cut too ? Ir maybe she gave the money back, I mean as a porn star she has a reputation to protect.
You cannot obtain the benefit of the contract and then claim the contract is void
Quote: AZDuffmanMcCain does not deserve an apology. Those that want respect give respect. McCain is still upset Trump won where he got clobbered.
Spin spin spin. Trump BEGS for respect while he demeans others for no reason other than self-promotion. He's such a child about it that others are happy to manipulate him through flattery and obsequiousness, because it's so easy.
McCain is upset that he got stuck with crazy Sarah when he wanted Lieberman..She was a bad choice for him and for the times. He let himself get overruled. Politics over principle.
McCain is as NeverTrump as it's possible to be. He resents Trump demeaning the office. And he resents Trump being unworthy of what he considers a great honor.
Quote: beachbumbabsSpin spin spin. Trump BEGS for respect while he demeans others for no reason other than self-promotion. He's such a child about it that others are happy to manipulate him through flattery and obsequiousness, because it's so easy.
McCain is upset that he got stuck with crazy Sarah when he wanted Lieberman..She was a bad choice for him and for the times. He let himself get overruled. Politics over principle.
McCain is as NeverTrump as it's possible to be. He resents Trump demeaning the office. And he resents Trump being unworthy of what he considers a great honor.
Did you say the same when he demeaned "Little Rocket Man"?
PS--Still wwaiting for a link to the Court Order or memo wherein Michael Avenatti was given a special dispensation to review Federal criminal investigation documents
Quote: aceofspadesQuote: terapinedQuote: aceofspadesQuote: terapinedQuote: aceofspadesIn a multitude of situations, attorneys can sign contracts on behalf of their clients (here is a good blog post about that)
Did Cohen have it in writing by Trump?
from the blog
"Unless you have given your attorney approval to sign for your in writing, most of the time he/she is not able to sign for you. "
Read the entire article please
I did
Did Cohen have it in writing by Trump?
still waiting for an answer :-)
When researching law, do you go to blog posts?
Guess you did not read the part about "implied consent"
When I research law and draft legal briefs, they are deep discussions of the law - I am not going to put together a 20 page brief for you with citations to all the applicable statutes, case law and common law -- trying to provide you with a cursory overview
Did Cohen have it in writing by Trump?
still waiting for an answer :-)
Quote: aceofspadesDid you say the same when he demeaned "Little Rocket Man"?
No, IIRC she said he was going to cause a nuclear war.
Quote: aceofspadesDid you say the same when he demeaned "Little Rocket Man"?
PS--Still wwaiting for a link to the Court Order or memo wherein Michael Avenatti was given a special dispensation to review Federal criminal investigation documents
Yeah, I did, with special emphasis, because it was well known even by people NOT in the State Department that Kim was as susceptible to false flattery as Trump, and even more reactive to negative name-calling. It purely scared the hell out of me that Trump was poking him, and still does.
Quote: terapinedQuote: aceofspadesQuote: terapinedQuote: aceofspadesQuote: terapinedQuote: aceofspadesIn a multitude of situations, attorneys can sign contracts on behalf of their clients (here is a good blog post about that)
Did Cohen have it in writing by Trump?
from the blog
"Unless you have given your attorney approval to sign for your in writing, most of the time he/she is not able to sign for you. "
Read the entire article please
I did
Did Cohen have it in writing by Trump?
still waiting for an answer :-)
When researching law, do you go to blog posts?
Guess you did not read the part about "implied consent"
When I research law and draft legal briefs, they are deep discussions of the law - I am not going to put together a 20 page brief for you with citations to all the applicable statutes, case law and common law -- trying to provide you with a cursory overview
Did Cohen have it in writing by Trump?
still waiting for an answer :-)
Does not have to be in writing - can be verbal or implied
How would I know if there was written authorization? I do not have access to Cohen's files
Quote: beachbumbabsSpin spin spin. Trump BEGS for respect while he demeans others for no reason other than self-promotion.
If you watch closely, the only people he demeans are those that attack him first. He does not just randomly do it.
Quote:McCain is upset that he got stuck with crazy Sarah when he wanted Lieberman..She was a bad choice for him and for the times. He let himself get overruled. Politics over principle.
Crazy Sarah? Isn't that kind of misogynistic? We heard it was misogynistic to attack Hillary after all! Really, Sarah is a great role model for young girls. She made it on her own and not on her husband's name. And she did not cry "sexism" at every turn. That McCain would have wanted Liberman just shows what a RINO he is!
Quote:McCain is as NeverTrump as it's possible to be. He resents Trump demeaning the office. And he resents Trump being unworthy of what he considers a great honor.
Not really. He is just bitter. He treated Bush basically the same way.
Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: aceofspadesDid you say the same when he demeaned "Little Rocket Man"?
PS--Still wwaiting for a link to the Court Order or memo wherein Michael Avenatti was given a special dispensation to review Federal criminal investigation documents
Yeah, I did, with special emphasis, because it was well known even by people NOT in the State Department that Kim was as susceptible to false flattery as Trump, and even more reactive to negative name-calling. It purely scared the hell out of me that Trump was poking him, and still does.
That's the problem with the Left, scared of calling someone by the wrong gender pronoun yet also scared when a President actually talks tough
Dictators are not the nicest people in the world - they understand one thing only - strength - if you kowtow to them, they will roll right over you - tough talk and touch action is what works
PS--Still wwaiting for a link to the Court Order or memo wherein Michael Avenatti was given a special dispensation to review Federal criminal investigation documents
Quote: aceofspades
Dictators are not the nicest people in the world - they understand one thing only - strength - if you kowtow to them, they will roll right over you - tough talk and touch action is what works
Ah! That perfectly explains why Trump failed to talk tough and take action against Russia, and why Putin rolled right over him. I get it now, thanks!
What do you think Russia did that they should be scolded and perhaps go to thermo nuclear war over?Quote: TigerWuAh! That perfectly explains why Trump failed to talk tough and take action against Russia, and why Putin rolled right over him. I get it now, thanks!
Quote: aceofspadesThat's the problem with the Left, scared of calling someone by the wrong gender pronoun yet also scared when a President actually talks tough
Dictators are not the nicest people in the world - they understand one thing only - strength - if you kowtow to them, they will roll right over you - tough talk and touch action is what works
Umm, Trump has been heaping praise on Kim lately, a man that murders his own people. He's called him "very honorable" and "excellent".
He's a lot of things, but he's not very honorable and he's in no way excellent.
Will the real conservatives please stand up? Geez.
Quote: TigerWuAh! That perfectly explains why Trump failed to talk tough and take action against Russia, and why Putin rolled right over him. I get it now, thanks!
What are you talking about? What did Putin do that Trump didn't respond to? I seem to recall that Putin is not a fan of US involvement in Syria yet I also recall Trump giving the go ahead to air strikes in Syria
Are you still upset HRC lost to Trump? Why didn't the DNC ever turn over their supposedly hacked servers?
Quote: petroglyphWhat do you think Russia did that they should be scolded and perhaps go to thermo nuclear war over?
Oh, whoops, I forgot we're besties with "our biggest geopolitical foe" now.
Sorry, but Republican foreign policy changes so often it makes my head spin.
Quote: aceofspades
Are you still upset HRC lost to Trump? Why didn't the DNC ever turn over their supposedly hacked servers?
Hillary lost. Get over it.
Quote: SteverinosUmm, Trump has been heaping praise on Kim lately, a man that murders his own people. He's called him "very honorable" and "excellent".
He's a lot of things, but he's not very honorable and he's in no way excellent.
Didn't Bill Clinton praise Janet Reno, a woman who burned to death her own people?
Quote: TigerWuHillary lost. Get over it.
What does losing the election have to do with her crimes? If you lose an election, your crimes are wiped out?
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: SteverinosUmm, Trump has been heaping praise on Kim lately, a man that murders his own people. He's called him "very honorable" and "excellent".
He's a lot of things, but he's not very honorable and he's in no way excellent.
Didn't Bill Clinton praise Janet Reno, a woman who burned to death her own people?
I have no idea what Bill or Hillary Clinton have to do with the conversation we are having. You crack me up.
Quote: SteverinosUmm, Trump has been heaping praise on Kim lately, a man that murders his own people. He's called him "very honorable" and "excellent".
He's a lot of things, but he's not very honorable and he's in no way excellent.
Will the real conservatives please stand up? Geez.
He did not call him excellent - he said he treated the hostages excellently while they were in NK custody
I see this all too often in life -- someone will say to someone, "You're acting crazy" and the person responds "Don't call me crazy"
Quote: TigerWuOh, whoops, I forgot we're besties with "our biggest geopolitical foe" now.
Sorry, but Republican foreign policy changes so often it makes my head spin.
It happens. Do you not remember reading in history how we were allies with the USSR in 1945 but bitter enemies barely 2 years later? I'd suggest googling "no permanent allies, only permanent interests."
