Trump's Second and Third year in office
Quote: beachbumbabsAll you guys are going to accomplish is get avatars removed for everyone.
I have to ask...Why?
I get it if they spelled something obscene but in this case, really?
Quote: RonCHe is no longer their hero because he did not indict.
Can't say he didn't try with his biased FBI investigators and attorneys.
Quote: BozI have to ask...Why?
I get it if they spelled something obscene but in this case, really?
Yeah I’m not sure what the issue is either. Spelling out T-R-U-M-P isn’t offensive.
Kind of impressive that they were able to organize that.
Maybe they can loop in some more righties and start spelling P-*-S-S-Y-G-R-A-B-B-E-R.
Quote: ams288
Kind of impressive that they were able to organize that.
Credit where it's due. A Trump branded project that actually succeeded.
I think we need to ask whoever is in charge of programming this site to add a FAKE NEWS and a YOU'VE BEEN TRIGGERED button for us.Quote: beachbumbabsAll you guys are going to accomplish is get avatars removed for everyone.
Anti Tumpers sit around and cry all day.... meanwhile Trump supporters get sh*t done* Kinda like Trump does. Now you know why he will win again.Quote: FaceCredit where it's due. A Trump branded project that actually succeeded.
Quote: AxelWolfAnti Tumpers sit around and cry all day.... meanwhile Trump supporters get sh*t done* Kinda like Trump does
Why do you post this crap? What's wrong with you.
Everybody here works hard
I may not agree with those on the right
but
WE ALL work hard regardless if a member here is on the left or right.
Why do you post this junk Axel?
8YO seems smarter than the real thing.
What do they say about any publicity?
Quote: terapinedWhy do you post this crap? What's wrong with you.
Everybody here works hard
I may not agree with those on the right
but
WE ALL work hard regardless if a member here is on the left or right.
Why do you post this junk Axel?
What's amazing is they think co-ordinating avatars qualifies as getting things done.
Quote: billryanWhat's amazing is they think co-ordinating avatars qualifies as getting things done.
Yup
I got something done today
Still a registered republican from my days as a fiscal conservative demanding a balanced budget
Just got the annual republican survey in the mail
Cost me a us postage stamp to participate.
Hopefully a small response due to a cost to participate
All my answers were anti Trump
Some of the questions were funny such as. Do you support the Republican Party but not Trump?
lol
Just sent in my survey answers
Quote: terapinedYup
I got something done today
Still a registered republican from my days as a fiscal conservative demanding a balanced budget
Just got the annual republican survey in the mail
Cost me a us postage stamp to participate.
Hopefully a small response due to a cost to participate
All my answers were anti Trump
Some of the questions were funny such as. Do you support the Republican Party but not Trump?
lol
Just sent in my survey answers
FYI, they don’t give a sh&t about anyone’s survey answers, they only want the donations they requested with it. The questions are so leading towards a desired answer.
So while you may have worked hard, you certainly didn’t work smart.
Many people work hard their entire life and have nothing to show for it. (Not saying you).
Others are smart and don’t work hard and still get rich. But it’s a very limited few.
But the majority of people who are successful in life worked hard and smart.
So no, hard work doesn’t always pay off.
Quote: rxwineOr your dad can give you many millions of dollars and you can pretend you are just enormously successful at business.
Or you can go out and make your own fortune in this land of opportunity where almost anyone can be a millionaire if they want to.
And those who say money isn’t important, usually made many choices along the way to not have it.
There is no record of any such briefings being given to Trump or his campaign. That is why the March 22, 2017 information was so importantQuote: beachbumbabs1. They informed the target(s) with a series of classified briefings about it starting around September, once they were the confirmed party choices for the General. Clinton believed the briefings. Trump lied about it, didn't believe them, still claims he doesn't. You should look at the 2nd and 3rd debates and news articles around that time.
It is illegal for the CIA to spy on or surveil Americans in the U.S. That is why Brennan foisted the dossier on Harry Reid before he went blind.Quote:2. NOTHING the agencies did to investigate this was illegal. Not because I know the details, but because it's been investigated 3 times already, according to Congressional oversight people who have been part of it. Those investigations of procedure and causes happened under all-Republican control of Congress, and the leadership said they were satisfied with the integrity of the investigation, the probable cause for doing the investigation, and the fairness of the process. We just weren't told those investigations were happening at the time, but it was disclosed that they did happen in the past few weeks.
Here are more pertinent facts that trace the problemsome timeline:
On an episode of The View in May 2018, co-host Joy Behar asked Clapper point-blank “was the FBI spying on Trump’s campaign?” Clapper gave her a definitive answer: “no, they were not.”
In May 2017, Brennan explained that he became “aware of intelligence and information about contacts between Russian officials and U.S. persons.” The CIA can’t investigate U.S. citizens, but he made sure that “every information and bit of intelligence” was “shared with the bureau,” meaning the FBI. This information, he said, “served as the basis for the FBI investigation.”-- ind sentinel
By Mollie Hemingway
April 10, 2019
While it is important that the top law enforcement in the United States publicly acknowledged that the Obama administration and its intelligence agencies surveilled its domestic political opponents during the heat of a presidential election, it is what he said next that was most startling: that the CIA and other federal agencies in addition to the FBI may have been involved. “I’m not talking about the FBI necessarily, but intelligence agencies more broadly,” he said. . . .
There have always been indications that the operation went far beyond the FBI, however. For example, former CIA director John Brennan, now an MSNBC contributor, separately briefed Sen. Harry Reid, (D-Nev.) about the operation. Reid understood that move was undertaken so he could publicize the Russia investigation to influence the ongoing presidential election campaign.
Former director of national intelligence James Clapper, now a CNN contributor, admitted to discussions with media outlets about the investigation. The U.S. embassy in London was used contrary to established protocol to funnel hearsay that was used as a pretext to officially launch a wide-ranging investigation against the entire Trump orbit. Clinton-connected officials in the State Department were also used to disseminate unverified gossip and allegations about Trump throughout the federal government.
The use of covert individuals to surreptitiously obtain information on private American citizens and share it with the government is the most obvious publicly known indication that agencies beyond the FBI may have been intimately involved in the operation. It is clearly possible that every single instance of intelligence collection was done entirely by the FBI without any assistance from any other federal intelligence agency. However, that has not been determined by any investigative body.
The use of Stefan Halper, for example, a London-based American academic with longstanding ties to the FBI, CIA, and Defense Department, raises serious questions about whether CIA assets or resources were used against American citizens. Following Nixon-era domestic spying abuses by the U.S. intelligence community, oversight bodies restricted the authority of the CIA to spy on U.S. citizens on U.S. soil.
Numerous Trump affiliates were lured to meetings overseas that were then used as the basis for domestic intelligence collection. The formal launch of an enterprise investigation against the Trump campaign was opened following a report that George Papadopoulos, a former Trump campaign advisor, had told a foreign diplomat in London about another overseas meeting during which he was told Russians had dirt on Clinton.
The media’s attempt to claim that the covert surveillance of and collection of information on American citizens tied to the Trump campaign does not constitute “spying” is as absurd today as it was when they first started attempting to claim that a year ago after it was revealed that the FBI had used an overseas intelligence asset in its anti-Trump operation.
And for a fun reminder of some of our favorite episodes of fake news:
West Palm Beach, Fla. (CNN)President Donald Trump made a stunning claim Saturday, alleging without offering evidence that his predecessor, Barack Obama, wiretapped his phones at Trump Tower ahead of the 2016 election.
"Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my 'wires tapped' in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!" Trump tweeted early Saturday morning in one part of a six-tweet tirade that began just after 6:30 a.m.
Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017
Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017
The President went on to compare the alleged tapping of his phones to Watergate and called Obama "bad (or sick)."
"How low has President Obama gone to tap my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy," Trump tweeted.
How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017
But two former senior US officials quickly dismissed Trump's accusations out of hand.
"Just nonsense," said one former senior US intelligence official.
Another former senior US official with direct knowledge of investigations by the Justice Department under the Obama administration said Trump's phones were never tapped.
"This did not happen. It is false. Wrong," the former official told CNN.
Quote: SanchoPanza
It is illegal for the CIA to spy on or surveil Americans in the U.S. .
It's perfectly legal to spy on a foreign agent talking to an American. Whereas, the American's conversation is also picked up while in contact with a foreign agent.
Find more about Mollie Hemingway wiki: age, husband, children, family, Trump, and salary. America is indeed one of the most powerful countries in the world, and its normal for the president of such superpower country to get undivided
Quote: SanchoPanzaIt is illegal for the CIA to spy on or surveil Americans in the U.S.
They do anyway. Without authorization, they illegally spied our family when I was a kid. At the time, my father was a friend of Abbie Hoffman and a few other social activists.
Their main target was a man, who was freely exercising his right to freedom of speech.
They tapped our phone and opened any mail that came to our home.
They went further than that.
It took a Federal judge to stop them.
Quote: TankoThey do anyway. Without authorization, they illegally spied our family when I was a kid. At the time, my father was a friend of Abbie Hoffman and a few other social activists.
Their main target was a man, who was freely exercising his right to freedom of speech.
They tapped our phone and opened any mail that came to our home.
They went further than that.
It took a Federal judge to stop them.
More likely the FBI. It was still the days of J Edger Hoover, a man who collected files on nearly anyone powerful and anyone he didn't like.
Possibly. But whistleblowers like Binney and Drake have made it clear that the NSA as well as the other 15 known intelligence agencies in our country amass thorough files on activities like phone calls and other messages.Quote: rxwineMore likely the FBI. It was still the days of J Edger Hoover, a man who collected files on nearly anyone powerful and anyone he didn't like.
Quote: rxwineMore likely the FBI.
They didn’t know who it was, until it was discovered in court that it was the CIA. The same Federal judge that stopped them, admonished them in court, that he had only given them permission to tap the phone and open the mail of one man. Not my father, or Hoffman, or anyone else.
They lied to get that warrant, just as the FBI lied to get their FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign.
S&P 500 at all time high.
DOW less than 150 points from all time high
Making money! Making money! Thank you President Trump.
I can only imagine what the markets would be doing now if the Federal Reserve didn't screw with interest rates late last year.
(lefties need not read)
7 Glaring Omissions In The Mueller Report That Kill It's Credibility
Quote: FleaswatterLNNR
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7 Glaring Omissions In The Mueller Report That Kill It's Credibility
I would say Nobody Need Read. How does this clown from a right wing rag know what was omitted? IT'S Redacted!
Quote: FleaswatterLNNR
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7 Glaring Omissions In The Mueller Report That Kill It's Credibility
Republicans must be really worried about the obstruction issue, this report was suppose to be a win for Trump.
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Quote: rxwineQuote: FleaswatterLNNR
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7 Glaring Omissions In The Mueller Report That Kill It's Credibility
Republicans must be really worried about the obstruction issue, this report was suppose to be a win for Trump.
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Yeah, I don't get that either. What do these guys have to hide? Thought it was "TOTAL EXONERATION".
What a joke.
Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: FleaswatterLNNR
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7 Glaring Omissions In The Mueller Report That Kill It's Credibility
I would say Nobody Need Read. How does this clown from a right wing rag know what was omitted? IT'S Redacted!
Hmmm, so are you admitting that the omissions cited in the article are included in the redacted sections of the report?
Quote: Fleaswatter
Hmmm, so are you admitting that the omissions cited in the article are included in the redacted sections of the report?
None would be redacted if there, they
don't fall under the four categories
for redaction.
Quote: FleaswatterQuote: beachbumbabsQuote: FleaswatterLNNR
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7 Glaring Omissions In The Mueller Report That Kill It's Credibility
I would say Nobody Need Read. How does this clown from a right wing rag know what was omitted? IT'S Redacted!
Hmmm, so are you admitting that the omissions cited in the article are included in the redacted sections of the report?
Hmmm, so are you admitting the Mueller report does NOT exonerate Trump?
Because if it does exonerate him fully what does it matter if there are omissions?
Quote: darkoz
Hmmm, so are you admitting the Mueller report does NOT exonerate Trump?
Because if it does exonerate him fully what does it matter if there are omissions?
The Mueller report did not make a determination if Trump was guilty or innocent of obstruction. The DOJ exonerated President Trump based upon their review.
I do have a question for you. Recently you posted about a court case that you won against a casino. How would you feel if you were not allowed to provide any defense and the decision about your guilt or innocence was judged solely upon evidence provided by the casino?
Quote: FleaswatterThe Mueller report did not make a determination if Trump was guilty or innocent of obstruction. The DOJ exonerated President Trump based upon their review.
I do have a question for you. Recently you posted about a court case that you won against a casino. How would you feel if you were not allowed to provide any defense and the decision about your guilt or innocence was judged solely upon evidence provided by the casino?
It was trump who didnt want to add his testimony or be questioned so your question is kind of twisted
Quote: darkozIt was trump who didnt want to add his testimony or be questioned so your question is kind of twisted
President Trump provided written answers to Mueller's questions..
Quote: FleaswatterPresident Trump provided written answers to Mueller's questions..
Trump refused for over a year to be questioned. They asked repeatedly. He could have defended himself at any point.
He also answered "I don't recall" dozens of times (like 35 out of 50 questions), in writing, so all he avoided was taking the 5th in person. (You know, the one that protects you from SELF INCRIMINATION.) He certainly didn't answer the questions in any meaningful or transparent way, so your argument is not pertinent.
Quote: mcallister3200To be fair, if some witch hunters were following you around with stakes, would you welcome them with open arms if you weren’t a witch?
What part of corrupt, lying, cheating, con men are not a witch? They do it in public, for crying out loud. They brag about it on camera. Then they lie about what they said or did, and dare people to call them on it. How gullible are Trumpers that they believe the lies? It's like Jim Jones has returned from Hell: Here, kids, drink the nice purple Koolaid.
Quote: FleaswatterLNNR
(lefties need not read)
7 Glaring Omissions In The Mueller Report That Kill It's Credibility
“LNNR” pretty much applies to all of your posts, tbh.
Lots of right-wing opinion pieces that you try to pass off as news articles lately...
Quote: beachbumbabsTrump refused for over a year to be questioned. They asked repeatedly. He could have defended himself at any point.
He also answered "I don't recall" dozens of times (like 35 out of 50 questions), in writing, so all he avoided was taking the 5th in person. (You know, the one that protects you from SELF INCRIMINATION.) He certainly didn't answer the questions in any meaningful or transparent way, so your argument is not pertinent.
He should have just poured BleachBit on the questions and moved on.
Quote: FleaswatterThe Mueller report did not make a determination if Trump was guilty or innocent of obstruction. The DOJ exonerated President Trump based upon their review.
I do have a question for you. Recently you posted about a court case that you won against a casino. How would you feel if you were not allowed to provide any defense and the decision about your guilt or innocence was judged solely upon evidence provided by the casino?
Fleaswatter,
Its funny you ask because in many ways my case did occur the same way as Trump
I was asked no questions by the DA. Instead she listened to what the casino accused.
The day of trial (like literally we were waiting to go inside for opening arguments) the DA dropped the case for lack of evidence - my total exoneration (as Trump would put it).
I never did get to testify or have anyone hear my side
Quote: darkozFleaswatter,
Its funny you ask because in many ways my case did occur the same way as Trump
I was asked no questions by the DA. Instead she listened to what the casino accused.
The day of trial (like literally we were waiting to go inside for opening arguments) the DA dropped the case for lack of evidence - my total exoneration (as Trump would put it).
I never did get to testify or have anyone hear my side
Thanks for an honest straightforward answer.
Quote: ams288Quote: FleaswatterLNNR
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7 Glaring Omissions In The Mueller Report That Kill It's Credibility
“LNNR” pretty much applies to all of your posts, tbh.
Lots of right-wing opinion pieces that you try to pass off as news articles lately...
Just for the heck of it, I went through my last 2 weeks of posts to see if you are accurate.
Not including today, here are the sites I linked to, in order, in the past 2 weeks starting with the most recent:
Nytimes.com
CNN.com
Washingtonpost.com
Migrationpolicy.org
rollcall.com
irs.gov
Yep, sure looks like a bunch of right-wing opinion sites
Quote: Fleaswatter
Just for the heck of it, I went through my last 2 weeks of posts
Don't waste your time. I don't even
give sources anymore, what's the
point. You don't get it. You say
tomato and they'll say tomatoe,
just to screw with you. It's just
a big game to them.
Quote:With the 2020 presidential election looming on the horizon, I feel, as a Republican, that I need to be able to support the standard bearer of our party. Unfortunately, that is something I’m unable to do. I believe that it is just a matter of time before our country pays a heavy price for President Trump’s reckless spending and short-sighted financial policies, his erratic, destabilizing foreign policy, and his disregard for environmental concerns,” he said in a statement.
McKean blamed Trump for fueling an “unprecedented divisiveness” and said he sets a poor example by hurling insults at those who disagree with him and his “frequent disregard for the truth.”
“If this is the new normal, I want no part of it,” he said.
Rep. Andy McKean, 69, the longest serving Republican currently in the Iowa legislature,
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-lawmaker-quits-party-because-of-trumps-disregard-for-the-truth/ar-BBWdqyj?ocid=spartanntp
Adios Pussy.
“Wreckless spending” that has only added 0.049% to the federal debt in the past 27 months. The rest of it was mandatory spending created by failing ruinous dem programs. “Short-sighted” financial policies that have created record low unemployment, record employment across every demographic, lowest jobless claims in fifty years, record corporate profits, fastest pace of wage increases in nine years, favorable international trade agreements, and more.
Trump’s ‘destabiliziing’ foreign policy hasn’t started any wars, and North Korea has not conducted nuclear or ICBM tests in two years.
Trump’s ‘disregard for environmental concerns’, have led the US to total oil independence. For the first time in 75 years, the US is a net oil exporter.
Obama's one-sided Paris Accord, placed our manufacturers at a disadvantage, and had us reducing our CO2 emissions while every other nation increased theirs, and had us paying billions into Green Funds. It failed in the Senate 95-0, when it was introduced by Bush as the Kyoto Protocol.
Obama knew it wouldn’t stand a chance in the Senate. That is why he forced it on the nation with his executive order.
Trump was right to pull us out of it.
While the dems ignore the impending disaster, Trump has proposed reduced spending on the nearly bankrupt Social Security and Medicare programs, but dems have vowed to block his proposals.
Next year, Social Security costs will exceed its income, and in 2035, benefits will have to be reduced because taxes will only pay 76% of scheduled benefits.
Medicare’s hospital insurance trust fund is expected to run out of money in seven years.
Quote: FleaswatterQuote: ams288Quote: FleaswatterLNNR
(lefties need not read)
7 Glaring Omissions In The Mueller Report That Kill It's Credibility
“LNNR” pretty much applies to all of your posts, tbh.
Lots of right-wing opinion pieces that you try to pass off as news articles lately...
Just for the heck of it, I went through my last 2 weeks of posts to see if you are accurate.
Not including today, here are the sites I linked to, in order, in the past 2 weeks starting with the most recent:
Nytimes.com
CNN.com
Washingtonpost.com
Migrationpolicy.org
rollcall.com
irs.gov
Yep, sure looks like a bunch of right-wing opinion sites
I said opinion pieces. Not “opinion sites.”
CNN, WashPo, NYT, etc. all have right-wing commentary in their opinion sections.
Quote: FleaswatterQuote: ams288Quote: FleaswatterLNNR
(lefties need not read)
7 Glaring Omissions In The Mueller Report That Kill It's Credibility
“LNNR” pretty much applies to all of your posts, tbh.
Lots of right-wing opinion pieces that you try to pass off as news articles lately...
Just for the heck of it, I went through my last 2 weeks of posts to see if you are accurate.
Not including today, here are the sites I linked to, in order, in the past 2 weeks starting with the most recent:
Nytimes.com
CNN.com
Washingtonpost.com
Migrationpolicy.org
rollcall.com
irs.gov
Yep, sure looks like a bunch of right-wing opinion sites
Fleaswatter having difficulty reading a usual
Right wing opinion pieces does not equal right wing sites.
Thanks for the laugh
NYTimes, CNN, Washington Post have balanced opinion pieces that reflect both liberal and conservative views.
That's why these are respected and something like Breibart is not respected
Quote: Tanko"I believe that it is just a matter of time before our country pays a heavy price for President Trump’s reckless spending and short-sighted financial policies, his erratic, destabilizing foreign policy, and his disregard for environmental concerns,” -Rep. Andy McKean
Thanks for posting this Tanko, I agree with Andy Mckean
Its becoming a smalll party
I support a balanced budget and I'm no longer a republican because Trump is about spend spend spend
Its classic cult of personality. Trump is perfect in many conservatives eyes. Balancing the budget is no longer a republican objective because Trump refuses to do it and some conservatives cheer him on for that.
Sad
Quote: ams288Quote: FleaswatterQuote: ams288Quote: FleaswatterLNNR
(lefties need not read)
7 Glaring Omissions In The Mueller Report That Kill It's Credibility
“LNNR” pretty much applies to all of your posts, tbh.
Lots of right-wing opinion pieces that you try to pass off as news articles lately...
Just for the heck of it, I went through my last 2 weeks of posts to see if you are accurate.
Not including today, here are the sites I linked to, in order, in the past 2 weeks starting with the most recent:
Nytimes.com
CNN.com
Washingtonpost.com
Migrationpolicy.org
rollcall.com
irs.gov
Yep, sure looks like a bunch of right-wing opinion sites
I said opinion pieces. Not “opinion sites.”
CNN, WashPo, NYT, etc. all have right-wing commentary in their opinion sections.
A lot of intelligent members here, watch the news, form their own opinions and post them here
Regardless of left or right, I enjoy reading these posts
Then we have members that don't seem to have the intelligence to form their own opinions and instead resort to posting links to opinion pieces and act like its gospel. lol
Quote: darkozI see a deep state conspiracy at WOV when 5 different posters each choose a letter that collectively spells TRUMP and then post thank yous in respective order so that many right wing thank you post spell TRUMP perfectly.
As the Ancient Hawaiians used to say, "If you give a million monkeys a million typewriters, eventually they'll paint the Mona Lisa." You should be thankful that five courageous & noble forum members did such a good deed. We may not ever know who they are or who the mastermind behind it, but I applaud those patriots.
