Trump's Second and Third year in office

Quote: SanchoPanza

Anyone can call anyone else a reporter. That doesn't make it an accurate description.
Anyone can comment on anything. That is their opinion--and NOTHING more.

I was under the impression that if Trump lies and says somebody is a reporter , conservatives back the lie
Are you saying Trump lied :-)

Quote: terapined

I was under the impression that if Trump lies and says somebody is a reporter , conservatives back the lie
Are you saying Trump lied :-)

When and where did Trump call him a reporter?

Quote: ams288

Y’all can pretend Fox is a legitimate news organization, but none of the “partisan” left outlets would ever kill a story like this if it hurt a Dem candidate.

Then why was the Stormy Daniels story almost buried?
Our very own homegrown legal and other experts were at one time extremely vocal on this topic. But with yet another recent adverse legal decision, the silence has been deafening. To start, here is barely a handful of quotations on the subject:

'“I like Avenatti. He's a clever, media savvy, street wise rottweiler of a lawyer. I'd want him on my team before any number of Cohens or Rudys or indeed any of the two-bit mob fixer lawyers that trumpy can retain.”

“He isn't putting anything out there he can't prove.”

“I should only hope to live my life being as wrong as Avenatti.”

“Paying off a porn star in the middle of a presidential campaign to HELP his campaign is VERY much OUR business. He works for us, right? We hired him, right? Don't you think that would've been a piece of information the voters would've liked to have known?”

“The undisclosed $130,000 payment most likely violated campaign finance law. So yes.”

“As for the NDA, Avenatti had nothing to do with it. It was a different lawyer who got Stormy to sign it. And that lawyer was most likely working with Cohen behind Stormy's back.”

“To the rest of your post, the hypocrisy is astounding. If Barack Obama had an affair with a porn star while his "manwife" was pregnant with their 5th child from three different women, you'd be SCREAMING for his ousting, at the top of your lungs! And you know it!!!!
Will the real evangelicals please stand up?
And this isn't really even about his infidelity. Dude uses his money to get laid. Fine. But this payoff very likely broke the law. That's cool?”

“The article says "Avenatti may face disbarrment (sic)." That's like saying "Trump may face impeachment" It means absolutely nothing.”

“The only thing I'm "pinning my hopes" to in regards to Avenatti is that he keeps being a pain in the ass for Donald and Cohen.”

“The whole Avenatti and Stormy thing feels like ten years ago. He's old news.”


Here is the downfall:

“By Rebecca R. Ruiz
March 7, 2019

A federal judge on Thursday dismissed a lawsuit brought against President Trump and his former lawyer by Stormy Daniels, a pornographic film actress who was paid to keep quiet about an alleged affair with Mr. Trump before the 2016 election.

The suit, brought a year ago in California, had sought to release Ms. Daniels from the nondisclosure agreement she had signed. As part of her arrangement, she received $130,000 in hush money through the president’s personal lawyer at the time, Michael D. Cohen.

As he tossed out the case this week, Judge S. James Otero, of United States District Court in Los Angeles, called the legal argument moot, given that Ms. Daniels had not been held to the terms of the agreement.”

Quote: SanchoPanza

Then why was the Stormy Daniels story almost buried?

“Almost” buried? It WAS buried before the election. Fox News learned about the hush payment and killed the story because they knew how devastating it would be to the Trump campaign.

That’s the whole point of my post. No legitimate news organization would do that to a Dem candidate. All those outlets you righties claim are left-biased were always happy to report on Hillary’s emails or some other nonsense that hurt her campaign. Fox went out of their way to protect Donald.

Fox News is propaganda, plain and simple.

Quote: ams288

“Almost” buried? It WAS buried before the election. Fox News learned about the hush payment and killed the story because they knew how devastating it would be to the Trump campaign.

Unverifiable salacious claptrap may be the cup of tea for some partisans. But it sure as shooting was NOT buried right here. The feverish posts backing up Stormy Daniels and her creepy Avenatti decorated many pages over several threads. As the sampling of authoritative quotations amply demonstrates.

As far as I know prosecutors in NY have implicated Trump in a crime for 2 hush money payments related to Stormy Daniels and the other woman. That has not gone away.

This is different

Quote:

The suit, brought a year ago in California, had sought to release Ms. Daniels from the nondisclosure agreement she had signed. As part of her arrangement, she received $130,000 in hush money through the president’s personal lawyer at the time, Michael D. Cohen.

Quote: SanchoPanza

Unverifiable salacious claptrap may be the cup of tea for some partisans. But it sure as shooting was NOT buried right here.

We are talking about BEFORE the election.

Go ahead and find some posts “right here” talking about Stormy Daniels from before Nov. 8, 2016.

You can’t. Because Fox News caught and killed the story.

Quote: SanchoPanza

When and where did Trump call him a reporter?

??????
Trump ranked a ton of reporters based on loyalty to him
I mentioned this and posted a link regarding Trump's rankings
You seem offended by my post and am pointing to a mystery "him"
I don't get you. What does this mystery "him" have to do with my posting a link of Trump ranking reporters

All the reporters Trump ranked I assume are reporters
Here is another article on this below
Are you claiming the reporters Trump rated are not reporters?
Did Trump lie regarding his ranking?

https://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-reportedly-ranks-all-fox-news-anchors-for-loyalty-steve-doocy-is-a-12-out-of-10/

Quote: terapined

??????
Trump ranked a ton of reporters based on loyalty to him
I mentioned this and posted a link regarding Trump's rankings
You seem offended by my post and am pointing to a mystery "him"
I don't get you. What does this mystery "him" have to do with my posting a link of Trump ranking reporters

All the reporters Trump ranked I assume are reporters
Here is another article on this below
Are you claiming the reporters Trump rated are not reporters?
Did Trump lie regarding his ranking?

https://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-reportedly-ranks-all-fox-news-anchors-for-loyalty-steve-doocy-is-a-12-out-of-10/

Straka is and has long been a hairdresser.

Quote: SanchoPanza

Straka is and has long been a hairdresser.

ok. So you know your hairdressers and you know how long they have been a hairdresser
Honestly, I cant name a single hairdresser. Obviously its a subject you know well that I could care less about
You must love that old movie Shampoo. Lots of hairdressers in that movie
anyway
What does your response about a hairdresser have anything to do with my post of Trump ranking reporters
Weird

Have you seen the video of the car that almost wiped out Trumps motorcade yesterday. They were driving on a divided highway when an approaching car swerved onto the divider. Luckily, it hit those wire barriers and didn't go through them . Incredibly the car hit the wires less than fifty feet from its terminus. Some bystander caught it on video. Trumps motorcade didn't slow down. The whole thing happened so fast ,I doubt most of the motorcade was even aware of it.

Quote: billryan

Have you seen the video of the car that almost wiped out Trumps motorcade yesterday.

It was a girl that didn't even know anything about the president coming thru. The person in front of her basically stopped in the middle lane causing her to swerve to avoid running into the back of them.

Donald just tweeted that Ann Coulter is a “wacky nut job.”

There’s trouble in paradise...

Quote: MaxPen

The person in front of her basically stopped in the middle lane causing her to swerve to avoid running into the back of them.

Looky loos, helping to cause rear enders daily.

Quote: ams288

Donald just tweeted that Ann Coulter is a “wacky nut job.”

How many times have I said that
exact same thing. Why you think
she's the darling of the Right is
a mystery. She's been over the
hill crazy for years. She constantly
flip flops to keep her name out
there to sell books.

She was attractive once. Pushing
60 and still no long term man in
her life. She drives men nuts just
being with her.

Quote: rxwine

Looky loos, helping to cause rear enders daily.

In Alaska that's how the locals tell where the moose are, when there's a pile of tourists stopped in the road.

Quote: ams288

Donald just tweeted that Ann Coulter is a “wacky nut job.”

There’s trouble in paradise...

Pretty funny
Trump had the best people speak at his campaign rallies. not
Coulter is smart, she does not put up with Trump's BS
She also has excellent music tastes, a fellow deadhead.

I’m old enough to remember (last fall) when certain righties tried to pretend this wasn’t a white power symbol.

Well, here’s the NZ white nationalist mass murderer doing it:



And, of course, his manifesto praised Trump.

Quote: ams288

And, of course, his manifesto praised Trump.

Of course. No better way to get wall
to wall coverage than to praise
Trump when you do something bad.
It's a genius move.

Quote: EvenBob

Of course. No better way to get wall
to wall coverage than to praise
Trump when you do something bad.
It's a genius move.

Manafort did it to perfection

Quote: darkoz

Manafort did it to perfection

They all do it, and still Trump remains
pure as the driven snow..

Quote: EvenBob

They all do it, and still Trump remains
pure as the driven snow..

Hmmm

Snow melts

Snow gets snorted

Trump is pure snow?

He needs a snow blower

Snow blow

He will be gone with the summer rains

Nice metaphors for your president

Not everyone wants guns confiscated: https://fox4kc.com/2019/03/15/missouri-lawmaker-says-bill-requiring-residents-to-own-ar-15s-makes-point-on-mandates/

Quote: EvenBob

They all do it, and still Trump remains
pure as the driven snow..

yellow snow

Quote: MaxPen

It was a girl that didn't even know anything about the president coming thru. The person in front of her basically stopped in the middle lane causing her to swerve to avoid running into the back of them.

Stupid a-hole. The person that stopped in road. Not the girl that swerved. Even if there is a fatality on the other side of the road, idgaf, do NOT stop in the road to look at it!!!

Quote: ams288

I’m old enough to remember (last fall) when certain righties tried to pretend this wasn’t a white power symbol.

Well, here’s the NZ white nationalist mass murderer doing it:



And, of course, his manifesto praised Trump.

Fisting (left hand) and an a-hole (right hand)? I hope that's what he gets in a year or so for many years to come. No lube, obv. Same goes for all the rest of those horrible people. Fyi, I did look up the meaning you suggest. I like mine better.

Quote: petroglyph

Not everyone wants guns confiscated: https://fox4kc.com/2019/03/15/missouri-lawmaker-says-bill-requiring-residents-to-own-ar-15s-makes-point-on-mandates/

It shames me to be from there. But kudos to Roy Blunt for voting with the Democratic Senators over the national emergency over the wall!

#WhitePower 👌🏻

Quote: RS

#WhitePower 👌🏻

Lol

Quote: RS

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Yikes. I took a look at that site, looks like the gutter of the internet.

No wonder so many right-wingers get radicalized online when there are so many gross sites like that spewing hate.

Quote: tringlomane

It shames me to be from there. But kudos to Roy Blunt for voting with the Democratic Senators over the national emergency over the wall!

There were differing reasons for voting for the resolution. Limiting the power of one branch over another and also preventing a future leader from taking it even further are legitimate concerns. I'm not sure they can prevail in court over the order, but they will get some immediate victories in court to slow things down. If the order is found to be legal and within the Constitution, perhaps they should re-write it to get rid of the concerns of abuse.

Congress has been a failure and has ceded more power than it should to the Executive. They also tend to "just let the Courts decide." Neither of those are really they way it should be... We vote Presidents in and out of office; Presidents fill the courts with their idea of proper judges and they swing from side to side. Congress? They spend way more time trying to get re-elected than they do actually trying to do anything. Some people like that, and I get it--them doing little can be a good thing--but giving away what power they do have is not a good thing.

Quote: ams288

Yikes. I took a look at that site, looks like the gutter of the internet.

No wonder so many right-wingers get radicalized online when there are so many gross sites like that spewing hate.

You should see what the Huff Post is doing to the 2020 Democratic candidates they don’t like.

Talk about hate.

Quote: Boz

You should see what the Huff Post is doing to the 2020 Democratic candidates they don’t like.

Talk about hate.

Please follow the rules that seem to apply here--there is never any hate or anything bad from the left.

Since Trump is a Republican, he is the reason for all hate in the world.

None of it existed pre-Trump; it was all unicorns and rainbows.

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Yes, I know Trump is very flawed. Like all of his predecessors, he is imperfect. Perhaps more imperfect than most of them. Trump is as much the left's fault as anyone; they selected a poor candidate as their nominee. They can't say anything good about Trump, even if those who are conservative can say bad things about him and not like a lot of things he tweets and says. They call us names if we support anything he does. Don't they know that we have to have a President and we can't just make him walk away? Sometimes, you have to make the best of the situation. He wasn't my candidate either...but he is our President...just like the ones before him. They risk allowing him to be re-elected by swinging so far left that it is ridiculous, but they have time to come back to the center and see if people believe their candidate.

Quote: ams288

Yikes. I took a look at that site, looks like the gutter of the internet.

No wonder so many right-wingers get radicalized online when there are so many gross sites like that spewing hate.

Never been to that site, AFAIK. Just did a quick google search and it came up.

Quote: Boz

You should see what the Huff Post is doing to the 2020 Democratic candidates they don’t like.

Talk about hate.

I wouldn’t know. Haven’t read the Huff Post in ages. You bring it up all the time though, seems maybe their audience has changed?

Quote: RonC

Trump is as much the left's fault as anyone

lololololol

NO

What a completely ludicrous statement.

Quote: ams288

I wouldn’t know. Haven’t read the Huff Post in ages. You bring it up all the time though, seems maybe their audience has changed?

I wouldn’t think you would. Reasonable Democrats, if there are some left out there are not their target audience. Instead it’s a race to the bottom between HP on the left and crazies like Infowars on the right.

I read HP to see how far left many former Democrats have gone. It’s good to find easy things to use against the crazies that may actually believe the racist garbage they spew against average Americans, many of whom grew up as working Dems.

Not sure if there is anything left in the Democratic Party for the average working class Democrat that doesn’t believe in the stuff Bernie and crew preach. They know they are not victims and they know they don’t like Trump, so what do they do?

I’m sure the HP crowd would say get with the new Dem party or just die.

Quote: ams288

lololololol

NO

What a completely ludicrous statement.

Democrats have more voters than Republicans.

Democrats had a clear advantage going into the election.

Hillary screwed up, or was too tired, to visit several obvious battleground states in the late stages of the election to make sure that she carried those states.

Just like the Republicans ran Romney and McCain, neither of them firebrands, having a weak candidate--even though she was "the most qualified ever"--falls on the party and the voters who helped them get nominated.

Trump didn't win in a vacuum; other things happened. They always do.

It is easier to blame it all on everyone else.

Quote: RonC

Trump didn't win in a vacuum; other things happened. They always do.

Yeah, the Republican primary voters chose the criminal con man and GOP let him be their nominee.

They get ALL the blame.

Quote: ams288

Yeah, the Republican primary voters chose the criminal con man and GOP let him be their nominee.

They get ALL the blame.

Once again, there is little sense in posting with you because you take no responsibility for anything your side does or fails to do. Your party cheated a candidate out of a fair shot from the looks of things (though he most likely would not have won the nomination) and their candidate did not do a good job.

Your willingness to call people that have not been charged "criminals" and people who wear a hat "thugs" and then accusing others of "hate" is precious.

There is plenty of "hate" on the left, right, and in various religions. One must suspend reality to not see that.

Oops...I forgot...there was no "hate" BT...Before Trump...

Quote: RonC

There were differing reasons for voting for the resolution.

The fix was in. They voted that
way because they knew Trump
would veto it. So by voting
against it (when they're really
for it) they send a message to
future presidents, and get what
they want anyway.

Quote: RonC

There is plenty of "hate" on the left, right, and in various religions. One must suspend reality to not see that.

Let’s throw some stats into this debate, instead of the “both sides are bad!” false equivalences.



Clearly one side has a bigger issue with hate and violence than the other, no?

Quote: ams288

Let’s throw some stats into this debate, instead of the “both sides are bad!” false equivalences.

Clearly one side has a bigger issue with hate and violence than the other, no?

I'm against all of them; I didn't say anything about which side had a bigger problem with the issue at this point. There is plenty of hate to go around. I would much rather have no hate; just differences of opinion. Left wingers used to try and bomb places and now (Antifa) mainly just tear up the property of others (so far), Islamists still blow up places and are a danger, and right-wing extremists are some nasty bastards who are winning the idiot race lately.

I've read some of the ADL stuff and other things. While, in general, I find the conclusion of who is nastiest to be correct at this point, there are some questions about their numbers and who they attribute things to in this report. Again, I am not saying that any of this changes who is winning the hate race right now.

"I know how many motherfuckers hate me. 'I’m never going to see a Sam Jackson movie again.' Fuck I care? If you never went to another movie I did in my life, I’m not going to lose any money. I already cashed that check. Fuck you. Burn up my videotapes. I don’t give a fuck."

"This motherfucker is like ruining the planet and all kinds of other crazy shit. And the people think that’s okay. It’s not fucking okay. And if you’re not saying anything, then you’re complicit."

Who has said all these recently -- to whom and in what context?

Hint: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/samuel-l-jackson-to-trump-supporters-who-boycott-his-films-f-you

P/S
How many days, weeks, months, years, decades, or centuries I'll be banned for posting these non-censored, exact quotes?

Quote: 777

P/S
How many days, weeks, months, years, decades, or centuries I'll be banned for posting these non-censored, exact quotes?

Direct quotes and relevant to the topic -- shouldn't be banned. OTOH, I wouldn't overdo them either, or hunt stuff out of the past unless it's a debate over what someone said then by someone else

IMO. of course.

Quote: 777

"I know how many motherfuckers hate me. 'I’m never going to see a Sam Jackson movie again.' Fuck I care? If you never went to another movie I did in my life, I’m not going to lose any money. I already cashed that check. Fuck you. Burn up my videotapes. I don’t give a fuck."

"This motherfucker is like ruining the planet and all kinds of other crazy shit. And the people think that’s okay. It’s not fucking okay. And if you’re not saying anything, then you’re complicit."

Who has said all these recently -- to whom and in what context?

Hint: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/samuel-l-jackson-to-trump-supporters-who-boycott-his-films-f-you

P/S
How many days, weeks, months, years, decades, or centuries I'll be banned for posting these non-censored, exact quotes?

Conservatives wont watch a Samuel Jackson movie because of politics?
Boy is that dumb and stupid
I lean left and I know Clint Eastwood is a right winger that like to talk to chairs
but
If I am channel surfing and see Dirty Harry or the cowboy with no name, I'm stopping to watch Clint kick some a**

Quote: terapined

Conservatives wont watch a Samuel Jackson movie because of politics?
Boy is that dumb and stupid
I lean left and I know Clint Eastwood is a right winger that like to talk to chairs
but
If I am channel surfing and see Dirty Harry or the cowboy with no name, I'm stopping to watch Clint kick some a**

Boycotting a movie because you disagree with a director or actor’s politics is incredibly stupid.

I still see all of Clint’s movies. I thought The Mule was really good.

Million Dollar Baby is one of my favorite movies.

I posted this video last week and it got zero feedback from anybody. WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED? Everybody wants to whine about the problems with our democracy but nobody wants to recognize what's broken and the steps necessary towards fixing it. When you look at the YouTube comments, everything is sooooooooooooooooooo predictable. Righties automatically hate it because it's an actress and Hollywood is full of pedophiles and corrupt (I'm exaggerating...sort of). Lefties love it because it recognizes what's going on and has some sensible reforms to fixing it, regardless of who the messenger is. The tax voucher is just one AWESOME idea that GUARANTEES that each candidate will campaign for it instead of relying on PAC money and wealthy contributions.

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And for the record, the DNC did not cheat Bernie. He lost the primary by almost 4 million votes. Hillary actually beat Obama in the popular vote by 286,687 in 2008, to put that into context. You can't cheat 4 million votes, no matter how many times you try to falsely claim that illegals voted in droves.

Donald Trump is the symptom of what's rotted at the Republican Party over the last decade, i.e., they overreacted to Barack Obama, a good man who pushed for compromising solutions time and time again, to the dismay of his base. Did Hillary make mistakes? Yes, she did. Is the left EQUALLY to blame for electing a despicable human being as the role model for our children and leader of the free world? Oh heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllll no!

Quote: 777

"I know how many motherfuckers hate me. 'I’m never going to see a Sam Jackson movie again.' Fuck I care? If you never went to another movie I did in my life, I’m not going to lose any money. I already cashed that check. Fuck you. Burn up my videotapes. I don’t give a fuck."

"This motherfucker is like ruining the planet and all kinds of other crazy shit. And the people think that’s okay. It’s not fucking okay. And if you’re not saying anything, then you’re complicit."

Who has said all these recently -- to whom and in what context?

Hint: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/samuel-l-jackson-to-trump-supporters-who-boycott-his-films-f-you

P/S
How many days, weeks, months, years, decades, or centuries I'll be banned for posting these non-censored, exact quotes?

You make it obvious that you posted this only to troll the moderation over the "keep it PG" rule, not to make any particularly useful on-topic post. Yes, we have free speech here. But we also have some standards, with which you are very familiar. You could have masked the offensive words and still quoted Sam Jackson exactly. You didn't.

So I'll make it 1 month less 3 days you earned extra on your last sentence, Martingale (4th recent offense). Hopefully I'll remember to unlock you then.

Quote: Steverinos

And for the record, the DNC did not cheat Bernie. He lost the primary by almost 4 million votes. Hillary actually beat Obama in the popular vote by 286,687 in 2008, to put that into context. You can't cheat 4 million votes, no matter how many times you try to falsely claim that illegals voted in droves.

"In her book, Brazile agrees with the court, too. She says that, contra President Trump, the Clinton campaign’s actions were not illegal. “The funding arrangement with HFA and the victory fund agreement was not illegal, but it sure looked unethical,” Brazile notes. “This was not a criminal act, but as I saw it, it compromised the party’s integrity.”

https://www.weeklystandard.com/holmes-lybrand/fact-check-did-the-dnc-illegally-steal-the-2016-primary-from-bernie-sanders

No, they didn't technically "cheat" him out of winning...they just let Hillary run the show based on a joint fund-raising agreement:

"“Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised,” Brazile wrote. “Her campaign had the right of refusal of who would be the party communications director, and it would make final decisions on all the other staff. The DNC also was required to consult with the campaign about all other staffing, budgeting, data, analytics, and mailings.”"

Quote: Steverinos

Yes, she did. Is the left EQUALLY to blame for electing a despicable human being as the role model for our children and leader of the free world? Oh heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllll no!

Again, they had the winning candidate. They were poised to win. The candidate just refused to do what it would take to win. Someone on her side was responsible for that decision. Her winning in California by a zillion votes was a forgone conclusion and we hear a lot about it and how unfair it is...but everyone knew the system going in and she missed out on a few thousand votes that were hers to gain by staying away at a crucial point in the campaign.

Nothing that President Trump does is their "fault"...that isn't the point...it is their "fault" that they didn't do what it took to win.

Quote: RonC

Nothing that President Trump does is their "fault"...that isn't the point...it is their "fault" that they didn't do what it took to win.

That wasn't the point I was trying to make either. You used the word cheated, without quotes, in an earlier post to describe the DNC's treatment of Bernie. That's not what happened.

Thanks for the clarification.