Trump's Second and Third year in office
“Mr. Trump has spent his career in the company of developers and celebrities, and also of grifters, cons, sharks, goons and crooks,” the editorial board wrote. “He cuts corners, he lies, he cheats, he brags about it, and for the most part, he’s gotten away with it, protected by threats of litigation, hush money and his own bravado.”
“Those methods may be proving to have their limits when they are applied from the Oval Office,” it continued. “Though Republican leaders in Congress still keep a cowardly silence, Mr. Trump now has real reason to be afraid.”
The trumps will rue the day they didn't stop Daddy from running for President.
]Quote: billryanPart of a NY Times editorial.
“Mr. Trump has spent his career in the company of developers and celebrities, and also of grifters, cons, sharks, goons and crooks,” the editorial board wrote. “He cuts corners, he lies, he cheats, he brags about it, and for the most part, he’s gotten away with it, protected by threats of litigation, hush money and his own bravado.”
“Those methods may be proving to have their limits when they are applied from the Oval Office,” it continued. “Though Republican leaders in Congress still keep a cowardly silence, Mr. Trump now has real reason to be afraid.”
The trumps will rue the day they didn't stop Daddy from running for President.
Yet despite the failing NYT, tens of millions support his agenda and a large swath of the media support him unconditionally. There are things that he is doing right, or at least right to the people that voted for him, especially in the swing states. And that's all that matters.
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Yet despite the failing NYT, tens of millions support his agenda and a large swath of the media support him unconditionally. There are things that he is doing right, or at least right to the people that voted for him, especially in the swing states. And that's all that matters.
No its not all that matters
Tens of millions is a small number for votes. NYC alone has nearly ten million
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Yet despite the failing NYT, tens of millions support his agenda and a large swath of the media support him unconditionally. There are things that he is doing right, or at least right to the people that voted for him, especially in the swing states. And that's all that matters.
1/3 of the country supports him
He lost the middle which means 1 term
The only media that supports him unconditionally is the media on the right
Get ready for a House blue wave this fall
Got a 100.00 on the Blue wave. Dems take the House. Wellwellwell loses a 100 to me
lol
Easy money (I hope)
Any other conservatives want a piece of this action?
Quote: terapined1/3 of the country supports him
He lost the middle which means 1 term
The only media that supports him unconditionally is the media on the right
Get ready for a House blue wave this fall
Got a 100.00 on the Blue wave. Dems take the House. Wellwellwell loses a 100 to me
lol
Easy money (I hope)
Any other conservatives want a piece of this action?
Yep, that Blue Wave will be just like the Hillary wave.
Been watching too much MSNBC, terapined?
Quote: boymimbo]
There are things that he is doing right, or at least right to the people that voted for him, especially in the swing states. And that's all that matters.
WTF.... That is not "all that matters."
He should be doing things that are right for 100% of the country, not just the people who voted for him.
That is exactly what you DON'T want to do as President.
Quote: wellwellwellYep, that Blue Wave will be just like the Hillary wave.
Been watching too much MSNBC, terapined?
Terapined has at least put his money where his mouth is. And so have you! I'm hoping you win the bet, www....,
The reason I think it doesn't happen that enough seats change to Dem is these elections the person running sometimes trumps their party affiliation, more so than in a Senate election. I think the incumbent factor is hard to overcome as well. People hate Congress, of course except for their Congressman!
Quote: SOOPOOTerapined has at least put his money where his mouth is. And so have you! I'm hoping you win the bet, www....,
The reason I think it doesn't happen that enough seats change to Dem is these elections the person running sometimes trumps their party affiliation, more so than in a Senate election. I think the incumbent factor is hard to overcome as well. People hate Congress, of course except for their Congressman!
I've been looking for a possible opportunity to get on the "no" for $100 (no, the Republicans will not hold the House). Do you want the "yes"? I think fair odds would be 3:2 on "no" with the incumbency issue, and the number of flips needed to turn the House.
Quote: beachbumbabsI've been looking for a possible opportunity to get on the "no" for $100. Do you want the "yes"? I think fair odds would be 3:2 on "no" with the incumbency issue, and the number of flips needed to turn the House.
Thanks but no thanks! I assume by 'yes' you mean the House flips to Democrat? I can't bet on that, although it would be a hedge..... I'd be happy with the result but unhappy I lost the bet....
That is why I'm not as optimistic as some...
I dislike Diamond and Silk but I don't hate them like the right hates David Hogg
I totally support Diamond and Silk's freedom of speech
I would never compare Diamond or Silk to Hitler as RS and EB have.
I would never compare Diamond or Silk to a child molester as Axel has done to David Hogg
Why the hatred toward David Hogg by members on this board here
Really sad
Some members need to grow up and respect freedom of speech regardless of politics like me
Quote: beachbumbabsI've been looking for a possible opportunity to get on the "no" for $100 (no, the Republicans will not hold the House). Do you want the "yes"? I think fair odds would be 3:2 on "no" with the incumbency issue, and the number of flips needed to turn the House.
Soopoo,
I clarified with an edit, but I think you saw it before I did that. I'm saying no, the Republicans will not hold the House. They will lose it to the Democrats and those who caucus with Dems.
Quote: terapinedI see Diamond and Silk on the right are becoming huge stars just like David Hogg
I dislike Diamond and Silk but I don't hate them like the right hates David Hogg
I totally support Diamond and Silk's freedom of speech
I would never compare Diamond or Silk to Hitler as RS and EB have.
I would never compare Diamond or Silk to a child molester as Axel has done to David Hogg
Why the hatred toward David Hogg by members on this board here
Really sad
Some members need to grow up and respect freedom of speech regardless of politics like me
Say what now? I don’t think that ever happened...
Quote: RSQuote: terapinedI see Diamond and Silk on the right are becoming huge stars just like David Hogg
I dislike Diamond and Silk but I don't hate them like the right hates David Hogg
I totally support Diamond and Silk's freedom of speech
I would never compare Diamond or Silk to Hitler as RS and EB have.
I would never compare Diamond or Silk to a child molester as Axel has done to David Hogg
Why the hatred toward David Hogg by members on this board here
Really sad
Some members need to grow up and respect freedom of speech regardless of politics like me
Say what now? I don’t think that ever happened...
I remember Axel posting a pic of Hogg and asking if he looked like a child molester
regardless
why the hate for Hogg?
I don't hate Diamond or silk. I support their free speech rights
How many on the right here say they support Hogg speaking out?
MAGA!
Quote: TigerWuWTF.... That is not "all that matters."
He should be doing things that are right for 100% of the country, not just the people who voted for him.
That is exactly what you DON'T want to do as President.
He got elected. Obama did plenty of things that was not 100% right. Right is a point of view, an opinion, after all.
I know that the left on this forum are very excited at these developments, but the fact is that his evangelical base and his other followers on the right are unmoved.
All trump has to do is enough to win in 2020.
And for the midterms, it is only the congressional districts and senate seats that are tossups or leaning red. There aren't that many of them.
Quote: ams288Reminder: in order to take the house, Dems have to win the popular vote by like +8 points or something crazy like that.
That is why I'm not as optimistic as some...
Say what? There are 435 individual elections. One side needs to win 218 of them. It doesn't matter if its by one vote or a landslide. The nationwide popular vote means nothing. Districts range in size. Republicans should win the seats in the sparsely populated areas, Democrats in the larger urban districts.
Quote: billryanSay what? There are 435 individual elections. One side needs to win 218 of them. It doesn't matter if its by one vote or a landslide. The nationwide popular vote means nothing. Districts range in size. Republicans should win the seats in the sparsely populated areas, Democrats in the larger urban districts.
The problem is gerrymandering
Take myself
I live in Democrat urban Tampa
Yet my congressional rep is a Republican based in the rural county north of me
Quote: boymimboHe got elected. Obama did plenty of things that was not 100% right. Right is a point of view, an opinion, after all.
I don't think any President will ever be good for 100% of the people. But they should be appealing to and working for the largest number of people of possible, not just their fringe base.
Quote:All trump has to do is enough to win in 2020.
Because "winning" is all that matters? This isn't a game.
Quote: terapinedQuote: RSQuote: terapinedI see Diamond and Silk on the right are becoming huge stars just like David Hogg
I dislike Diamond and Silk but I don't hate them like the right hates David Hogg
I totally support Diamond and Silk's freedom of speech
I would never compare Diamond or Silk to Hitler as RS and EB have.
I would never compare Diamond or Silk to a child molester as Axel has done to David Hogg
Why the hatred toward David Hogg by members on this board here
Really sad
Some members need to grow up and respect freedom of speech regardless of politics like me
Say what now? I don’t think that ever happened...
I remember Axel posting a pic of Hogg and asking if he looked like a child molester
regardless
why the hate for Hogg?
I don't hate Diamond or silk. I support their free speech rights
How many on the right here say they support Hogg speaking out?
I don’t remember that (and couldn’t find it). Plus, I’m pretty sure Axel doesn’t know how to post a picture. Bazinga!
Idk about EB or anyone else, but why do you think I “hate” D Hogg?
Seems like you support free speech until you disagree with it. Do I not have the free speech rights to make a joke about D Hogg looking like Hitler with his arm up and out? I wasn’t even referencing the whole anti-gun part.
“Everyone should have freedom of speech as long as I agree with what they say.”
WTF, I DID??? Please direct me to the post and location I did that. Sounds like FAKE NEWS to me.Quote: terapined
I remember Axel posting a pic of Hogg and asking if he looked like a child molester
regardless
why the hate for Hogg?
I don't hate Diamond or silk. I support their free speech rights
How many on the right here say they support Hogg speaking out?
FYI this is not the first time you indicated this, you didn't use my name the first time, you just said somthing like, a notable member or whatever. It's now obvious you were suggesting it was me.
Are you projecting?
Obama more admired than Trump in every country except Russia
Quote: billryanSay what? There are 435 individual elections. One side needs to win 218 of them. It doesn't matter if its by one vote or a landslide. The nationwide popular vote means nothing. Districts range in size. Republicans should win the seats in the sparsely populated areas, Democrats in the larger urban districts.
It's because of gerrymandering.
A new report says Democrats need to win the popular vote by 11 points to retake the House
Quote: AxelWolfWTF, I DID??? Please direct me to the post and location I did that. Sounds like FAKE NEWS to me.
FYI this is not the first time you indicated this, you didn't use my name the first time, you just said somthing like, a notable member or whatever. It's now obvious you were suggesting it was me.
Are you projecting?
Sorry
I thought I remembered
Maybe I remembered wrong
getting old :-(
Quote: ams288It's because of gerrymandering.
A new report says Democrats need to win the popular vote by 11 points to retake the House
Nonsensical article looking at trends that are meaningless. Gerrymandering is horrible, but in the end, it's 435 elections and the winning side has to win 218.
Quote: ams288Hogg turned 18 yesterday. He's legal now. Fair game for attacks from deranged righties clinging to their guns.
MAGA!
Buying more every week, sorry financial I can’t do it every day, but I buy one every week in your honor. Want to post them on Facebook but obviously it isn’t worth the risk.
After all Zombies are coming.
And I’m sure he isn’t interested in your c**k.
Quote: BozAnd I’m sure he isn’t interested in your c**k.
Apparently I struck a nerve...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That suuuurrreee makes me think it's true. And the Russians have a copy of it. No wonder he's being so nice to them.
Quote:The president has reportedly already signed off on the pardon for Libby, who was convicted in 2007 for lying to the FBI and obstructing justice in the investigation into who leaked the identity of ex-CIA agent Valerie Plame.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-to-pardon-ex-cheney-aide-scooter-libby-report/ar-AAvPmZP?ocid=spartanntp
I like you, so I won't give you too much of a hard time. I just find it a very odd and specific thing to remember wrong.Quote: terapinedSorry
I thought I remembered
Maybe I remembered wrong
getting old :-(
As always, whenever you use the word child molester, whatever the reason or context, you should always check your facts.
Quote: rsactuaryIn a excerpt released from Comey's upcoming book, it appears that Trump asked Comey to investigate the pee tape to prove to Melania that it was false.
That suuuurrreee makes me think it's true. And the Russians have a copy of it. No wonder he's being so nice to them.
Even funnier, that shows you that even Melania believes the pee tape exists.
As a matter of fact, I can imagine him with hookers. Multiple women have said he offered them money for sex.
Called comey an untruthful slimeball
Lol
Trumps new motto: when i get hit i fall down
Quote: BozBuying more every week, sorry financial I can’t do it every day, but I buy one every week in your honor. Want to post them on Facebook but obviously it isn’t worth the risk.
I just found out that gun ownership per household is like at a 60 year low, but gun ownership per person is trending in the opposite direction. So, it sounds like fewer people are owning guns, but the ones that do are buying more and more.
Quote: TigerWuI just found out that gun ownership per household is like at a 60 year low, but gun ownership per person is trending in the opposite direction. So, it sounds like fewer people are owning guns, but the ones that do are buying more and more.
When I was younger, we all had to deal with a crazy neighborhood cat lady. Now it seems every one has a crazy gun neighbor. Middle age men suddenly are running around hoarding guns. Same sickness, different manifestation.
Quote: ams288"The pee tape stuff can't be true, I'm a germaphobe!" said the man who had condomless sex with a pornstar then paid her $130,000.
And then listening to his explanation about how he knows there are cameras in rooms is creepy. Bringing it up in a meeting with Comey, "to prove to Melania" it's not true, considering what we NOW know (like we didnt' before, duh) about his infidelities, it's even more creepy and makes me think there's something to it.
"I don't know for a fact that a wee-wee tape exists I just know it's true."
lol
I don't think Boz is all that crazy.Quote: billryanWhen I was younger, we all had to deal with a crazy neighborhood cat lady. Now it seems every one has a crazy gun neighbor. Middle age men suddenly are running around hoarding guns. Same sickness, different manifestation.
I assume that was meant to be a dig on Boz.
Quote: SteverinosAnd then listening to his explanation about how he knows there are cameras in rooms is creepy. Bringing it up in a meeting with Comey, "to prove to Melania" it's not true, considering what we NOW know (like we didnt' before, duh) about his infidelities, it's even more creepy and makes me think there's something to it.
"I don't know for a fact that a wee-wee tape exists I just know it's true."
lol
One of my neighbors boyfriends is serving a long sentence
Simple neighborhood dispute
Just a lot of yelling
Till the boyfriend decides to get involved and grabs his gun waving it around as the big man on the block
Stupid
Things get heated due to the gun. it goes off
One dead
sad
To introduce a gun into a neighbor dispute is the height of stupidity
Quote: billryanMr. Cohen ( and his dad) don't look like the type that will enjoy ten plus years in Federal lockup. One fat lady coming up.
I like to imagine there's a bunch of Federal prisoners who don't really follow the news and have no idea what's going on, and then one day six months from now like 30 GOP politicians and lawyers and staffers just show up to serve their sentence and all the prisoners are like, "Jesus, what the hell is going out there?"
Quote: AxelWolfI don't think Boz is all that crazy.
I assume that was meant to be a dig on Boz.
There is a well defined sub group of gun owners. They are referred to by many names but they own an average of seventeen guns and regularly purchase more. It's an obsession.
Quote: TigerWuI like to imagine there's a bunch of Federal prisoners who don't really follow the news and have no idea what's going on, and then one day six months from now like 30 GOP politicians and lawyers and staffers just show up to serve their sentence and all the prisoners are like, "Jesus, what the hell is going out there?"
They will all end up in rich mans country club jail
Most likely the scenario will be:
Michael Cohen: Hey guys me and trump just arrived
Bernie Madoff: hey join the club we were just about to have a game of chess before golfing
Quote: darkozThey will all end up in rich mans country club jail
Most likely the scenario will be:
Michael Cohen: Hey guys me and trump just arrived
Bernie Madoff: hey join the club we were just about to have a game of chess before golfing
Madoff has been hospitalized at least once from injuries consistent with getting beat. He's not in a Camp Fed, he's in a medium security prison. No golfing.
Quote: billryanMadoff has been hospitalized at least once from injuries consistent with getting beat. He's not in a Camp Fed, he's in a medium security prison. No golfing.
From a Marketwatch interview:
"Bernie really was a successful businessman with quite original insights into the market, and he's continued applying his business instincts in prison. At one point, he cornered the hot chocolate market. He bought up every package of Swiss Miss from the commissary and sold it for a profit in the prison yard. He monopolized hot chocolate! He made it so that if you wanted any, you had to go through Bernie."
