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December 13th, 2018 at 7:06:23 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

It has many names, inflation, deflation, fees, taxes, whatever.

The US$ is worth less than 3% of what it was in 1913 when congress passed the fed reserve act on Christmas eve.

The gold that came out of the Klondike in 1892 was priced at less than $19 per ounce.

Inflation is a stealth tax levied mostly on the poor.



Do you think today's poor are worse off then the poor of 1913? I don't see where a hundred plus years of inflation hurt them, or anyone else.
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December 14th, 2018 at 12:52:51 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Do you think today's poor are worse off then the poor of 1913? I don't see where a hundred plus years of inflation hurt them, or anyone else.

You do raise a conundrum, it is easier [at least in the US] for the poor to fill their belly's.

But there is a global opportunity cost from kiting checks for a hundred years.
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December 14th, 2018 at 8:51:44 AM permalink
I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.
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December 14th, 2018 at 2:49:48 PM permalink
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/white-house-considers-plan-to-deport-vietnam-refugees/

I don't understand the motivation?
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December 14th, 2018 at 4:05:57 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/white-house-considers-plan-to-deport-vietnam-refugees/

I don't understand the motivation?



A bully is his own motivation.
Some might say Donnie wants to make America white again, but that would be mean. I'm sure there is a perfectly good reason America should deport a few thousand people who escaped communism and have been living here the last 25 years.
Heck, conditions in Ireland have greatly improved since the Potato Famine. Lets get rid of a few million Papists while we are taking out the trash.
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December 14th, 2018 at 7:07:28 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/white-house-considers-plan-to-deport-vietnam-refugees/

I don't understand the motivation?



DHS wants to deport Vietnamese criminals.

That misleading article, which is based on the Atlantic article, left out this part:

Katie Waldman, a spokeswoman for DHS said: “We have 5,000 convicted criminal aliens from Vietnam with final orders of removal—these are non-citizens who during previous administrations were arrested, convicted, and ultimately ordered removed by a federal immigration judge. It’s a priority of this administration to remove criminal aliens to their home country.”

National Review

"This includes people such as Tam Minh Le, who arrived here illegally in 1990 and was jailed for shooting a man in the head in 1993. Since he could not be deported, he was released on parole in 2005, after which he slit the throats of two fellow gang members, for which he was sentenced to death in 2016."

"Another example is Binh Thai Luc, who immigrated with his family in 1989. He was ordered deported after a 1998 conviction for armed robbery, but since Vietnam wouldn’t take him back, he had to be released. That proved unfortunate for five members of the Lei family of San Francisco, whom he murdered in a botched burglary in 2012."
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December 15th, 2018 at 11:36:53 PM permalink
Trump family of crooks.

They apparently padded tenant's rents with fake costs.

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As a way to appreciate the scope of the impact, a onetime $10 increase in 1995 on all the 8,000 apartments involved would put the total overpaid by tenants at more than $33 million to date, an analysis of approved rent increases shows.
Mr. Leitner, a retired computer programmer, was not pleased to learn that his rent had been artificially inflated. Like other tenants interviewed by The Times, he wants that money back.




https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/as-the-trumps-dodged-taxes-their-tenants-paid-a-price/ar-BBR09aW?ocid=spartanntp
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December 16th, 2018 at 9:37:49 AM permalink
A newly released video shows Trumps new Chief of Staff calling Donny a " terrible human being".
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December 16th, 2018 at 10:23:29 AM permalink
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A newly released video shows Trumps new Chief of Staff calling Donny a " terrible human being".



Well, he wasn’t wrong...
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December 16th, 2018 at 11:08:08 AM permalink
Speaking of awful human beings, Stephen Miller appeared on TV this morning with spray on hair:



😂😂😂
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December 16th, 2018 at 12:04:02 PM permalink
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"I have watched with dismay and increasing horror as my nephew, an educated man who is well aware of his heritage, has become the architect of immigration policies that repudiate the very foundation of our family’s life in this country."
Dr. David S. Glosser, uncle of Stephen Miller

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December 16th, 2018 at 7:08:23 PM permalink
Trump tweet
"A REAL scandal is the one sided coverage, hour by hour, of networks like NBC & Democrat spin machines like Saturday Night Live. It is all nothing less than unfair news coverage and Dem commercials. Should be tested in courts, can’t be legal? Only defame & belittle! Collusion?"

WTF
Trump is questioning if its legal to make fun of him
What a thin skinned clown
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December 16th, 2018 at 10:33:28 PM permalink
A holiday tune to warm the cockles of your heart:

Sung to the tune of Jingle Bells

Dashing to the polls
On the next election day
Casting all our votes
So Republicans go away
The House is turning blue
A warning to the right
We're going to get our country back
And soon remove this blight

Oh....
Trumpies suck, trumpies suck
Trumpies suck all day
They'll deport you if you're Muslim
And hate you if you're gay, hey
Trumpies suck, trumpies suck
Trumpies suck all day
Oh what fun it is to live
In a country run this way

2nd verse.....

Trump is just an ass
Impeachment is in view
Kick the bastard out
That's what we've got to do
McConnell has to go
His Senate cronies too
When 2020 elections come around
Their numbers will be few
Oh....

Trumpies suck, trumpies suck
Trumpies suck all day
If you cross the border
They may take your kids away, hey
Trumpies suck, trumpies suck
Trumpies suck all day
Oh what fun it is to live
In a country run this way

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December 17th, 2018 at 2:38:06 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Trump tweet
"A REAL scandal is the one sided coverage, hour by hour, of networks like NBC & Democrat spin machines like Saturday Night Live. It is all nothing less than unfair news coverage and Dem commercials. Should be tested in courts, can’t be legal? Only defame & belittle! Collusion?"

WTF
Trump is questioning if its legal to make fun of him
What a thin skinned clown


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December 17th, 2018 at 1:12:52 PM permalink
I get the feeling that the republicans are having second thoughts about backing Trump; some seem uncomfortable, as if they're walking around with a turd in their pocket.

Too bad the democrats are weak and in disarray, otherwise they'd capitalize on it.

Time for the young-uns / millenials to get politically involved and take over the democrats and remake it into something they can believe in.
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December 18th, 2018 at 8:26:02 AM permalink
Trump Foundation agrees to dissolve, but the NY AG is continuing its criminal and civil investigation and lawsuit.


"Sometimes, I think it's a shame when it feels like I'm winning but I'm losing again."
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December 18th, 2018 at 10:44:35 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Trump Foundation agrees to dissolve, but the NY AG is continuing its criminal and civil investigation and lawsuit.



Meanwhile, the Clinton Foundation continues to do good work and actually helps people (who aren’t the Clintons).
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December 18th, 2018 at 11:48:16 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Meanwhile, the Clinton Foundation continues to do good work and actually helps people (who aren’t the Clintons).



LOL, you should write comedy.

Looks like the foundation will do less "good" work now since donations were way down 57.8% in 2017
https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/donations-to-clinton-foundation-fell-57.8-percent-in-2017

I guess the pay to play scam is falling apart.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/clinton-foundation-donations/




I wonder how much more the contributions will continue to fall in 2018?
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December 18th, 2018 at 11:58:17 AM permalink
Quote: Fleaswatter

LOL, you should write comedy.



Which part of my statement was incorrect?

“Meanwhile, the Clinton Foundation continues to do good work and actually helps people (who aren’t the Clintons).”
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December 18th, 2018 at 12:04:43 PM permalink
Quote: Fleaswatter

I wonder how much more the contributions will continue to fall in 2018?



I can think of at least one person that quit contributing.

His name is Donald Trump.

The next question is why would a "stable genius" donate to a corrupt organization in the first place?
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December 18th, 2018 at 12:18:49 PM permalink
And by the way, if you actually spend some time looking at the article that originally reported the drop in contributions, you can see that this was clearly expected after the end of their endowment campaign and, yes, the loss of the election.

But the truth is that the Clinton Foundation continuously receives A grades from charity watchdog organizations and is a fantastic charity. I welcome an investigation into the bulls**t.

When you see that the contributions are down, the obvious response is, "Duh."

https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=16680

https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/clinton-foundation/478

Compared to:

https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=16764

Here's another reference:

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/sep/23/politifact-sheet-comparing-clinton-and-trump-found/
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December 18th, 2018 at 12:26:27 PM permalink
My favorite Trump Foundation story:

Donald Took $7 out of his Charity to pay for his Son’s Boy Scout Membership Fees 

Quote:

It could be a crazy coincidence: the Trump Foundation just happens to give the Boy Scouts a fee of $7, the same year his kid is old enough to join the Boy Scouts, the exact same amount needed to join the Boy Scouts!

Don’t forget — if this is true, he didn’t even pay this measly $7 from his pocket, but rather from his charity bin, filled with money expected to go to noble causes and worthy endeavors….not to pay for his kid’s Boy Scout membership fees!

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December 18th, 2018 at 12:46:23 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

My favorite Trump Foundation story:

Donald Took $7 out of his Charity to pay for his Son’s Boy Scout Membership Fees 




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December 18th, 2018 at 1:26:33 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Meanwhile, the Clinton Foundation continues to do good work and actually helps people (who aren’t the Clintons).


emphasis mine....joke btw

Aha! So we agree, Clinton’s aren’t good people!
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December 18th, 2018 at 1:44:32 PM permalink
Ah memories:

Before the mid-terms, RonC took umbrage over some of us calling Donald’s promise of a “10% middle class tax cut” a LIE (which it was) vs. a “misstatement.”

Quote: RonC

Political Promise = the new 10% tax cut

Misstatement = whatever he said that had to do with doing anything before the election. The only thing that can happen before that is to present a plan and perhaps write the bill



Welp:

Mnuchin Backs Off Trump's Promise of 10% Middle-Class Tax Cut
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December 19th, 2018 at 10:44:37 AM permalink
We are sending too many people to jail for too long. The criminal justice reform bill passed in the Senate is called the "First Step Act", appropriately so. It's not a sweeping major overhaul as some have described it, but it's exactly what it's called, a good first step. A rare display of bipartisanship in a time when it's needed. You have to applaud the efforts.

There is a hint of irony though, lol.
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December 19th, 2018 at 12:05:00 PM permalink
Quote: Steverinos

We are sending too many people to jail for too long. The criminal justice reform bill passed in the Senate is called the "First Step Act", appropriately so. It's not a sweeping major overhaul as some have described it, but it's exactly what it's called, a good first step. A rare display of bipartisanship in a time when it's needed. You have to applaud the efforts.

There is a hint of irony though, lol.



F That, do the crime, do the crime. Face it, it you are not smart enough to understand you are going to jail when caught you don’t deserve freedom.

Just another example of certain people, including Trump, thinking they are better than others. And those others are not their equals and can’t help turning to crime. It’s an insult to anyone who ever pulled themselves up from a bad situation and made the right choices.

Mike Lee is wrong on this too. There I said it.
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December 19th, 2018 at 12:08:17 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

F That, do the crime, do the crime. Face it, it you are not smart enough to understand you are going to jail when caught you don’t deserve freedom.

Just another example of certain people, including Trump, thinking they are better than others. And those others are not their equals and can’t help turning to crime. It’s an insult to anyone who ever pulled themselves up from a bad situation and made the right choices.

Mike Lee is wrong on this too. There I said it.


This bill mostly deals with non-violent drug offenses.

Life in prison under 3 strikes for dealing weed is excessive.
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December 19th, 2018 at 12:10:38 PM permalink
NY State has permanently banned Donny, Ivanka and Jared from ever being on a charitable board, saying they are unfit to run one. Amazingly, some people still think he is fit to run a country.
Today he declared victory in Syria and has ordered our troops out.
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December 19th, 2018 at 12:12:32 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

F That, do the crime, do the crime.



Oh don't get me twisted, I wholeheartedly agree. I'm a huge advocate of Trump going to prison after he serves his term, but not for the rest of his life. Sending people to jail for the rest of their life for non-violent offenses is a non-starter to me.

See, the definition of personal freedom to me, as a progressive, is that I can do what I want with MY BODY. It's not your business nor anybody else's if I want to smoke a joint, snort lines, or shoot heroin. OR....play poker on the internet. (Thanks again Republicans, you guys rock)

The War on Drugs is bulls**t.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn2page1.stm
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December 19th, 2018 at 12:16:29 PM permalink
I bet Boz is also in favor of the Death Penalty.
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December 19th, 2018 at 12:32:51 PM permalink
"I didn't know about it... even if I did know about it, I wasn't involved... even if I was involved, it wasn't illegal... if it was illegal, it was my lawyer, so they should have known better and kept me from doing it."

Evidently, you can still fool some of the people all of the time.
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December 19th, 2018 at 12:40:23 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

I bet Boz is also in favor of the Death Penalty.



Of course I am, not sure how anyone can’t be.

I know, the old liberal motto, better a 1000 killers walk free than one innocent man go to jail. Naturally they never consider the victims of crime and how their lives are affected.

Yes it sadly has been used against minorities in a higher percentage of cases. That’s wrong and can easily be fixed by applying it more often to everyone convicted of 1st Degree Murder by a jury of fellow citizens.

It may not be a deterrent but it sure saves money. I don’t see any normal person complaining McVeigh was put to death rather quickly, with due process. Some people just don’t deserve the right to live out their life in prison.
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December 19th, 2018 at 12:52:19 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Of course I am, not sure how anyone can’t be.

I know, the old liberal motto, better a 1000 killers walk free than one innocent man go to jail. Naturally they never consider the victims of crime and how their lives are affected.

Yes it sadly has been used against minorities in a higher percentage of cases. That’s wrong and can easily be fixed by applying it more often to everyone convicted of 1st Degree Murder by a jury of fellow citizens.

It may not be a deterrent but it sure saves money. I don’t see any normal person complaining McVeigh was put to death rather quickly, with due process. Some people just don’t deserve the right to live out their life in prison.


You can’t be in favor of small government AND capital punishment. They are mutually exclusive ideas. Pick one.

I thought government was bad at everything, why is this any exception?? There have been 156 death row inmates exonerated since 1976, around 1400 were executed in the same timeframe. So we have has at least a 10% failure rate in sentencing guilty people to death.

The fact that an innocent person can be imprisoned and executed by the State is as big and bad as government gets.

It’s not cheaper like you suggest either. Seeking the death penalty imposes an average of approximately $700,000 more in case-level costs than not seeking death.
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December 19th, 2018 at 1:00:55 PM permalink
Republican Congressman in Maine is suing to be declared winner of a race he lost, claiming that he was in the lead on election day. Meanwhile in North Carolina, Republicans want to seat a man who they admit was involved in the worse voter fraud scandal in years. They say to do the election over but put this cheater into Congress pending a new election.
I can see what makes the republican party so attractive to some people. It's good to always have someone to blame. It's not you, it's them.
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December 19th, 2018 at 1:09:02 PM permalink
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Republican Congressman in Maine is suing to be declared winner of a race he lost, claiming that he was in the lead on election day. Meanwhile in North Carolina, Republicans want to seat a man who they admit was involved in the worse voter fraud scandal in years. They say to do the election over but put this cheater into Congress pending a new election.
I can see what makes the republican party so attractive to some people. It's good to always have someone to blame. It's not you, it's them.


The Maine suit was tossed.

https://www.apnews.com/646e23e07a3a4f63b26e6af8ef392e68

A little more info - It was a ranked-choice vote, and after the first accounting he had the most 1st place votes, but not more than half of the votes. He was seeking to have the ranked-choice voting system declared unconstitutional.

Regarding ranked-choice voting:
Quote:

But Walker, appointed by Republican President Donald Trump, said states are given great leeway in how they conduct elections. Critics can question the wisdom of ranked-choice voting, Walker said, but such criticism “falls short of constitutional impropriety.”

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December 19th, 2018 at 1:09:54 PM permalink
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Republican Congressman in Maine is suing to be declared winner of a race he lost, claiming that he was in the lead on election day. Meanwhile in North Carolina, Republicans want to seat a man who they admit was involved in the worse voter fraud scandal in years. They say to do the election over but put this cheater into Congress pending a new election.
I can see what makes the republican party so attractive to some people. It's good to always have someone to blame. It's not you, it's them.


This is a great op-ed that just came out a few days ago:
Whatever happened to the GOP principle of personal responsibility?
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December 19th, 2018 at 2:48:43 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

This is a great op-ed that just came out a few days ago:
Whatever happened to the GOP principle of personal responsibility?


Bruh....

Quote:

The president must own up to the egregious personal mistakes he made years ago that immersed him in his current legal predicament. Nobody forced Trump to engage in wild sexual escapades while Melania Trump was pregnant with the couple’s son.


That's just straight up retarded.

Quote:

When allegations about affairs with a porn star and Playboy model threatened to blow up Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, nobody forced him to arrange hush-money payments through his lawyer, Michael Cohen. The specific goal of these payments was to deprive voters of important information they needed in order to judge Trump’s character and background.




I think you meant "third rate op-ed" not "great". Because this is most certainly terrible.
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December 19th, 2018 at 3:58:53 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Quote: gamerfreak

This is a great op-ed that just came out a few days ago:
Whatever happened to the GOP principle of personal responsibility?


Bruh....


That's just straight up retarded.




I think you meant "third rate op-ed" not "great". Because this is most certainly terrible.



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December 19th, 2018 at 4:06:33 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Quote: RS

Quote: gamerfreak

This is a great op-ed that just came out a few days ago:
Whatever happened to the GOP principle of personal responsibility?


Bruh....


That's just straight up retarded.




I think you meant "third rate op-ed" not "great". Because this is most certainly terrible.



Its almost longer than your tagline



Yet not nearly as succulent.
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December 19th, 2018 at 4:22:25 PM permalink
Showing his usual testicular fortitude, the noble leader is cutting and running in Syria. What a man.
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December 19th, 2018 at 4:31:15 PM permalink
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Showing his usual testicular fortitude, the noble leader is cutting and running in Syria. What a man.

It's almost like it was a campaign promise or something.
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December 20th, 2018 at 4:44:27 AM permalink
Trouble in paradise:

ANN COULTER SAYS TRUMP MAY HAVE BEEN ‘SCAMMING VOTERS’ WITH WALL PROMISE, PREDICTS HE WON’T BE RE-ELECTED

Quote:

"Either Trump never intended to build a wall and was scamming voters from the beginning or he hasn’t the first idea in how to get it done and no interest in finding out," Coulter told The Daily Caller. "My prediction is his support will evaporate and Trump will very likely not finish his term and definitely not be elected to a second term."



After she made these comments, Donald unfollowed her on Twitter. (lol)
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December 20th, 2018 at 5:12:06 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Trouble in paradise:

ANN COULTER SAYS TRUMP MAY HAVE BEEN ‘SCAMMING VOTERS’ WITH WALL PROMISE, PREDICTS HE WON’T BE RE-ELECTED



After she made these comments, Donald unfollowed her on Twitter. (lol)



Actually she has been calling him out for not following through on this promise for the past year. And she is right, he showed he is not ready for Prime Time and got played by Chuck & Nancy. Even he has to see how bad he looks to his supporters on this one.

You should be hopeful they find other ways to screw him over in the next 2 years in the spirit of Bipartisanship.

He won with the support of new voters disillusioned with politics as usual who believed in him and what he said. In the end, he’s just another lying politician.

It’s a good day for your side today AMS, at this point whichever crazy on the left can survive the primaries is our next President. Unless of course Pence takes over before 20.
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December 20th, 2018 at 7:18:27 AM permalink
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This is a great op-ed that just came out a few days ago:
Whatever happened to the GOP principle of personal responsibility?


Bruh....

That's just straight up retarded.

I think you meant "third rate op-ed" not "great". Because this is most certainly terrible.


Ok, maybe not “great” :)

But what about the parts you quoted are “straight up retarded”?

Do you not agree that personal responsibility and family values have historically been strong principles of conservatism?

Do you not agree that those principles have been eroded under Donald Trump?
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December 20th, 2018 at 8:40:42 AM permalink
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Trouble in paradise:

ANN COULTER SAYS TRUMP MAY HAVE BEEN ‘SCAMMING VOTERS’ WITH WALL PROMISE, PREDICTS HE WON’T BE RE-ELECTED

After she made these comments, Donald unfollowed her on Twitter. (lol)


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December 20th, 2018 at 11:56:46 AM permalink
Looks like the criticism from Rush, Ann Coulter, etc. has gotten under Donny's skin and we're headed for a shutdown.

Yeehaw.
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December 20th, 2018 at 2:10:20 PM permalink
Looks like Americans are gonna pay for it now

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/12/20/gofundme-page-aiming-to-pay-for-trumps-border-wall-raises-over-dollar4m-in-3-days/23623728/
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December 20th, 2018 at 2:23:43 PM permalink
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Looks like Americans are gonna pay for it now

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/12/20/gofundme-page-aiming-to-pay-for-trumps-border-wall-raises-over-dollar4m-in-3-days/23623728/



And I thought the lottery was a tax on stupidity.
Trump promised his wall wouldn't cost taxpayers one cent. If his supporters want to privately fund it, I say go for it.
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