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Mooseton
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May 23rd, 2019 at 9:37:45 PM permalink
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new program from Don the Con -

𝐖𝐄𝐋𝐅𝐀𝐑𝐄 𝐅𝐎𝐑 𝐅𝐀𝐑𝐌𝐄𝐑𝐒

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/23/us/politics/farm-aid-package.html


Due to Trump, the Republican party now supports socialism.
Amazing, cult of personality is leading conservatives dow the road of giving billions of tax dollars to failing businesses.



The list is incredibly long. Pick anything that stands for American exceptionalism, service to its citizens, pride of national accomplishment, respect or reverence. Trump has targeted, eroded, or perverted everything he touches.

This is at least the 100th example of it.



Spin it how you guys obviously want to twist it. If anything, Kudos to President Trump, for giving the extra effort to protect the few American citizens directly impacted negatively by his own policies implemented, for the betterment of our trade deals. Its just a responsible move from the leader of the party of personal responsibility.


Its not spin. I have always been against any business bailout my entire life
I lean left due to social issues
But
I have always been a capitalist and against the govt supporting any business that cant make it on it own
At the very very minimum, you may make a loan but you make sure its paid back in full.
To give away taxpayer money, that's socialism any way you look at it.
I don't care who is President, Trump, Obama, mystery 2020 person, its socialism if you are giving, not loaning, billions to failing businesses. Its not spin, its fact.
Another fact is conservatives are defending socialism simply because Trump is President. If Obama pulled this crap, I would be with the conservatives yelling socialism.



Guess Im a socialist by your standards T.
I disagree though.
This is not exactly like Obamas bailout of the auto industry though. I think youre saying that that was socialist in nature, which I wont argue with.
Hes helping the very people that have lost income because of his policies and fighting for better trade deals. Things have to be shaken up a bit for that to happen and naturally some were hurt. At the very least, you cant say hes not fighting for them too.
$1700, 18, 19, 1920, 40, 60,... :/ Thx 'Do it again'. I'll try
RS
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May 23rd, 2019 at 9:47:20 PM permalink
Lol. Apparently doctored videos of Pelosi have been spreading to make it appear she is drunk. You dont have to doctor anything, just look at the original. Its as plain as day theres something seriously wrong with that woman.
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May 23rd, 2019 at 9:54:58 PM permalink
It's not at all equivalent to the auto industry, because that was a loan, and the industries paid all of it back and kept operating.

This is just the taxpayers getting used twice. All the tariffs will be / are paid for by American consumers, with pass-thru pricing. And the farm money is just a handout, not a loan with a commitment.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
Mooseton
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May 24th, 2019 at 12:10:09 AM permalink
Fair enough, auto industry loan aside, think of it in Sid Meiers ⛵️Civilization terms(and Ive only played the original), you simply must feed your people. Are you truly against that and committing to being reliant on outside food sources?

Terapined: I know you like that game so you should know this!
$1700, 18, 19, 1920, 40, 60,... :/ Thx 'Do it again'. I'll try
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May 24th, 2019 at 3:44:23 AM permalink
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Trump orders immigrant welfare crackdown, reimbursements

"President Trump ordered federal agencies Thursday to begin enforcing existing federal rules against immigrants who end up on the public dole, telling the government to begin demanding the money be repaid by the immigrants sponsors."

MAGA!!!



I totally support this.
Is not a left or right issue
Its an issue of responsibility
We have sponsored families. We were financially responsible and accepted that responsibility. The family we sponsored was a no brainer. My Uncle's family. He was a medical Dr trained in the Republic of China. He passed all the tests to practice in the USA. Ended up buying a mansion for himself and his family on long Island.. If Dr Lin. my uncle, decided to go on welfare, we were responsible
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terapined
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May 24th, 2019 at 4:07:04 AM permalink
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Quote: lilredrooster

new program from Don the Con -

𝐖𝐄𝐋𝐅𝐀𝐑𝐄 𝐅𝐎𝐑 𝐅𝐀𝐑𝐌𝐄𝐑𝐒

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/23/us/politics/farm-aid-package.html


Due to Trump, the Republican party now supports socialism.
Amazing, cult of personality is leading conservatives dow the road of giving billions of tax dollars to failing businesses.



The list is incredibly long. Pick anything that stands for American exceptionalism, service to its citizens, pride of national accomplishment, respect or reverence. Trump has targeted, eroded, or perverted everything he touches.

This is at least the 100th example of it.



Spin it how you guys obviously want to twist it. If anything, Kudos to President Trump, for giving the extra effort to protect the few American citizens directly impacted negatively by his own policies implemented, for the betterment of our trade deals. Its just a responsible move from the leader of the party of personal responsibility.


Its not spin. I have always been against any business bailout my entire life
I lean left due to social issues
But
I have always been a capitalist and against the govt supporting any business that cant make it on it own
At the very very minimum, you may make a loan but you make sure its paid back in full.
To give away taxpayer money, that's socialism any way you look at it.
I don't care who is President, Trump, Obama, mystery 2020 person, its socialism if you are giving, not loaning, billions to failing businesses. Its not spin, its fact.
Another fact is conservatives are defending socialism simply because Trump is President. If Obama pulled this crap, I would be with the conservatives yelling socialism.



Guess Im a socialist by your standards T.
I disagree though.
This is not exactly like Obamas bailout of the auto industry though. I think youre saying that that was socialist in nature, which I wont argue with.


It was socialism. If GM and Chrysler cant make it, they need to go out of business. I would never buy a Chrysler, they make total junk. Mercedes knew the company was a dog and cant believe Fiat took them off their hands. No way I'm buying that junk with an Italian transmission or engine. GM????????? They absolutely suck these days. Quality control is a joke. Why did Lordstown shut down, because they were making junk. How many chevy owners love their falling apart Cruze. They used to make good pickups like Ford. Why is Ford dominating truck sales now when 20 years ago Ford and Chevy were neck and neck. Poor GM quality control. They're only bright spot is producing and selling Buicks in China but there, they're Chinese partners are insisting on high quality control. Buick is massive and popular in China
"Everybody's bragging and drinking that wine, I can tell the Queen of Diamonds by the way she shines, Come to Daddy on an inside straight, I got no chance of losing this time" -Grateful Dead- "Loser"
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May 24th, 2019 at 11:00:30 AM permalink
Trump's arch enemy passes out at
press conference. My bet is the
5 martini lunch or an oreo
overdose. 72 year old Jerry
is such a physical specimen,
how does he not so this on a
daily basis.

"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
Steverinos
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May 24th, 2019 at 11:07:32 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Trump's arch enemy passes out at
press conference. My bet is the
5 martini lunch or an oreo
overdose. 72 year old Jerry
is such a physical specimen,
how does he not so this on a
daily basis.


Hey look, you've "reached" a new low! /golfclap
terapined
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May 24th, 2019 at 11:09:59 AM permalink
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Hey look, you've "reached" a new low! /golfclap



Well yea
Its easier then defending Comrade Trump
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EvenBob
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May 24th, 2019 at 11:16:35 AM permalink
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Hey look, you've "reached" a new low! /golfclap



Just when you thought Jerry couldn't
get any lower. Was he babbling
'collusion, dammit' when they
hauled him out?

Nadler and Dick Morris were
roomates in college. Morris
says Nadler is a real piece of
work, he never lets go of an
issue even if he's wrong. He'll
make a fool out of himself
rather than admit he was wrong.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal

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