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gamerfreak
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May 15th, 2019 at 8:53:51 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

I was reading that this trade war is going to cost the American family about $800 a year. Those tax cuts are looking good now, eh?


lol you mean the Trump tax increase? Because thatís what it was.

I donít think I talked to a single middle class person whoís effective tax rate did not go up.
mcallister3200
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May 15th, 2019 at 8:54:15 AM permalink
My dad is a small farmer, not his primary source of income anymore and said that the tariffs last year cost him about 20k. If thatís the case then it would have cost larger operations hundreds of thousands.
terapined
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May 15th, 2019 at 8:58:36 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

I was reading that this trade war is going to cost the American family about $800 a year. Those tax cuts are looking good now, eh?




I don't get it
Republicans used to be for free trade
Now because of Trump
Republicans no longer believe in free trade and instead believe in socialism where the govt is forced to support private failing businesses with billions in tax payer money
This is just wrong
What happened to republicans supporting capitalism and letting private businesses succeed or fail without billions in govt handouts
"Everybody's bragging and drinking that wine, I can tell the Queen of Diamonds by the way she shines, Come to Daddy on an inside straight, I got no chance of losing this time" -Grateful Dead- "Loser"
MaxPen
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May 15th, 2019 at 9:56:41 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

I don't get it
Republicans used to be for free trade
Now because of Trump
Republicans no longer believe in free trade and instead believe in socialism where the govt is forced to support private failing businesses with billions in tax payer money
This is just wrong
What happened to republicans supporting capitalism and letting private businesses succeed or fail without billions in govt handouts



You're just begging to be on par with the rest of the world. I hope you get your wish one day.
billryan
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May 15th, 2019 at 10:04:12 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

lol you mean the Trump tax increase? Because thatís what it was.

I donít think I talked to a single middle class person whoís effective tax rate did not go up.



Hey, now. I personally am getting g a $13 refund. I thought I might owe, but heck $13 is $13.

I don't understand tariffs as well as our president, so somebody help me out.
I am sitting on $10,000 worth of TSSD merchandise, made in China. Effective now, new imports pay a 25% tariff so the same stock will cost more to replace. The bottom line is my competition will now pay more and thus charge more.
The item that I paid $1 for, my rivals are now paying $1.25 for. I can sell for $2.25 and make a better profit than their margins on a $2.50 price point. Consumers who were paying $2 now will pay either $2.25 or $2.50.
How is this a good thing?
terapined
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May 15th, 2019 at 10:13:45 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

You're just begging to be on par with the rest of the world. I hope you get your wish one day.



par ?????
China is not buying our soy beans
Trump just hit in the bunker and looking at a double bogie for our farmers
Whats next, billions for Las Vegas casinos due to Macau kicking Vegas's butt

Stop the socialism. American Farmers cant make it under Trump, they should go out of business. That's Capitalism
Trump has turned conservatives into socialists
ROTFL
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MaxPen
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May 15th, 2019 at 10:26:51 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

par ?????
China is not buying our soy beans
Trump just hit in the bunker and looking at a double bogie for our farmers
Whats next, billions for Las Vegas casinos due to Macau kicking Vegas's butt

Stop the socialism. American Farmers cant make it under Trump, they should go out of business. That's Capitalism
Trump has turned conservatives into socialists
ROTFL



Trump is a Nationalist. Nice to finally have someone taking the country into consideration instead of selling out it's citizens interests.
terapined
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May 15th, 2019 at 10:39:52 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Trump is a Nationalist. Nice to finally have someone taking the country into consideration instead of selling out it's citizens interests.


So you support a Nationalist implementing socialist policies?
Mao was a Nationalist for China. Stalin was a Nationalist for Russia
If Obama did this, conservatives would be screaming socialism
but
Because its Trump implementing socialist policies, conservatives are ok with socialism
amazing

WTF are farmers growing Soy Beans????? Grow some pot, make money and stop the socialist billions being paid to failing businesses
Maybe farmers are that segment that cant read and have no idea about the massive MJ business in this country
I just paid 45.00 for 1/8 of an ounce. What's China paying 1/8 ounce of soy beans
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billryan
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May 15th, 2019 at 11:09:08 AM permalink
If only there was something g else they could grow.
mcallister3200
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May 15th, 2019 at 11:39:52 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

If only there was something g else they could grow.



Sidebar. Because of the way specific crops deplete different nutrients in the soil you canít really grow the same crops in the same fields year after year. Typically Iím the Midwest what is soybeans one year will be corn the next year and vice versa. Those sort of decisions kind of have to be made a couple years ahead to have a chance at effective crop. And the pot comment...different climates different things grow well in different types of soils, as well as legal issues in majority of markets. Terapined you are making extraordinarily ignorant comments. Itís reasonable to be against the subsidies but unless you think itís reasonable to predict these tariffs multiple years out, my point is thereís not much those farmers could do to decide this late whatís going to be in their fields this year other than grow nothing while transitioning. BTW pot is cheapest in Washington and Oregon legal markets, $20-$35 for what charge $40-$75 in most other markets.
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