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January 10th, 2018 at 6:40:59 PM permalink
Quote: Steverinos

What Oprah said in the video is the truth. Racism HAS to die if we are going to progress as a society. I don't understand why that would bother anybody, save the racists. But then again, I didn't understand how anybody could vote for a scumbag douche like Trump.


It sounded much more like she said, "...there are still generations of people, older people, who were born and bread [sic] and marinated in it, in prejudice and racism, and they just have to die..."


I also find it ironic there are many people (not saying you or anyone else here, specifically) who ragged on Trump because he's a "celebrity" running for president, but now they're perfectly fine and supporting Oprah to run in 2020. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Trump is (was*?) more of a businessman and acquired his wealth through business and real estate and then later on did the Apprentice. I didn't even know he did the Apprentice show until well into the campaign (I don't watch that show and don't really know what it is, other than it's some sort of a dating show, I think).

Whereas Oprah actually is a celebrity and that's how she's made her money, through her TV show(s), her own network, some studio, etc.


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I know. Tiger butter and all that from the story. Racism in the US is by no means limited to blacks. But the chain died because of the name and the stereotypes more than anything



I know you didn't mean it like that. Just poking fun.
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January 10th, 2018 at 7:00:12 PM permalink
Wait, wasn't Donald supposed to hold the Fake News Awards today?

Did his dementia make him forget to do it???
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January 10th, 2018 at 7:13:16 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Wait, wasn't Donald supposed to hold the Fake News Awards today?

Did his dementia make him forget to do it???



He awarded it to himself
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January 10th, 2018 at 7:17:52 PM permalink
With all the resources available to her Oprah couldn't even accomplish a successful diet for the past thirty years. She was even determined to succeed and failed how many times. LOL
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January 10th, 2018 at 8:12:19 PM permalink
Oprah and Gayle are lesbian lovers.
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January 10th, 2018 at 9:49:22 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Wait, wasn't Donald supposed to hold the Fake News Awards today?

Did his dementia make him forget to do it???


Finna hit up the googs, it says due to interest exceeding his expectations, Trump postponed the Fake News Awards. I can't wait, it's gonna be lit fam.
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January 10th, 2018 at 9:58:27 PM permalink
Oprah would be a bad choice for some of the same reasons Trump was. Neither one of them is an administrator. They're celebrities, not executives.

I never watched her show, so I don't know where she is on a lot of issues. But she had other people doing the administrative stuff, I would think, so doesn't have that experience.

But I think what made her so successful wasn't brains, it was heart. For a President, I prefer brains. She was perfect at what she did. But I think President is more a dream than a good match for her skills. Same problem Trump's having. He thinks/thought the showy stuff was all there was to it.

I guess we'll see. One thing I'm sure she would get right. She would put experts into staff jobs, not flunkies loyal to her but ignorant of their jobs. Perhaps COS would be a friend, one or two advisors.
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January 10th, 2018 at 10:24:39 PM permalink
Now here's one all you conspiracy lovers can embrace.

Chelsea Clinton denies worshipping Satan.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/chelsea-clinton-denies-worshipping-satan/ar-BBHQjuv?li=AA4Zjn&ocid=spartanntp&ffid=gz
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January 10th, 2018 at 10:26:27 PM permalink
I guess it turned out ok with Ronald Reagan, but please no more celebrity presidents.
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January 10th, 2018 at 10:55:27 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

I guess it turned out ok with Ronald Reagan, but please no more celebrity presidents.



I might be too young, but Ronald Reagan wasn't a major celebrity, right? As for his presidency, shrug. Too young for that to make a first hand opinion. But he was more stable than Trump, even with the Cold War, right?!?! Haha

Speaking of youth. I voted for Dukakis is in my school's mock 1988 election in 2nd grade. One of my classmates, who voted for Bush 41, claimed Dukakis would make kids go to school 6 days a week. I'm guessing her well-washed brain voted for Trump in 2016.

FYI, I mock voted Ross Perot in May 1992, he won our middle school election. Note that we voted before he flip flopped about running.
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January 10th, 2018 at 11:26:47 PM permalink
Reagan was a radio sports announcer , then a movie actor for a couple decades. He was popular, but not a superstar. He was better at being SAG president (prof actors union), then generally well-regarded as governor of California. The time as governor of the most-populous state was what gave him enough experience to be successful as President.

I didn't like him or vote for him, personally. But those historians who research and rate such things have him listed as a good or great President, so I will not challenge that.

Neither Trump nor Oprah have that kind of background. I think that matters.
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January 10th, 2018 at 11:40:54 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Reagan was a radio sports announcer , then a movie actor for a couple decades. He was popular, but not a superstar. He was better at being SAG president (prof actors union), then generally well-regarded as governor of California. The time as governor of the most-populous state was what gave him enough experience to be successful as President.



Right. And if Arnold Schwarzenegger was legally able to become President, I would have voted for him too. Economically staunch, but still had a moderate/liberal streak socially. And since 2000, I've voted Democratic every time (big shocker).
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January 10th, 2018 at 11:45:24 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

I might be too young, but Ronald Reagan wasn't a major celebrity, right? As for his presidency, shrug. Too young for that to make a first hand opinion. But he was more stable than Trump, even with the Cold War, right?!?! Haha

Speaking of youth. I voted for Dukakis is in my school's mock 1988 election in 2nd grade. One of my classmates, who voted for Bush 41, claimed Dukakis would make kids go to school 6 days a week. I'm guessing her well-washed brain voted for Trump in 2016.

FYI, I mock voted Ross Perot in May 1992, he won our middle school election. Note that we voted before he flip flopped about running.


I mock voted for Vicente Fox, in the 1999/2000 election.
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January 11th, 2018 at 12:18:56 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

I guess it turned out ok with Ronald Reagan, but please no more celebrity presidents.



Reagan was also a two term governor, usually the preferred position before a Presidential run. Not exactly a novice.
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January 11th, 2018 at 3:43:42 AM permalink
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Finna hit up the googs, it says due to interest exceeding his expectations, Trump postponed the Fake News Awards. I can't wait, it's gonna be lit fam.



Yes, he postponed it from Monday to yesterday.

Then not a peep about it yesterday.

Wonder if the same thing will happen with his scheduled physical tomorrow...
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January 11th, 2018 at 6:49:58 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Yes, he postponed it from Monday to yesterday.

Then not a peep about it yesterday.

Wonder if the same thing will happen with his scheduled physical tomorrow...


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January 11th, 2018 at 7:27:10 AM permalink
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trump-administration-opens-door-to-let-states-impose-medicaid-work-requirements/2018/01/11/d6374482-f628-11e7-a9e3-ab18ce41436a_story.html?utm_term=.9dd03eed18bf

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/medicaid-work-requirement_us_5a574a27e4b0a300f906267c?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

With the valid exceptions listed for disability and such, not sure how anyone could be against this with a straight face.

The excuse it will reduce the number of insured is a joke unless you feel able bodied Americans should be given coverage even if they refuse to work or volunteer.
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January 11th, 2018 at 8:02:31 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

FYI, I mock voted Ross Perot in May 1992, he won our middle school election. Note that we voted before he flip flopped about running.

Oh, that brings back the memories! I real voted for Perot in 92 in the first election I was legally eligible to vote in. At the time, I recall that he seemed to make more sense in the debates than the other 2 candidates.
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January 11th, 2018 at 9:29:46 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

The excuse it will reduce the number of insured is a joke unless you feel able bodied Americans should be given coverage even if they refuse to work or volunteer.



Isn't that the fundamental question in this debate? Whether or not we want to live in a country that guarantees health care coverage to all its citizens? Regardless of who they are, what they look like, and yes, what their work ethic is? Could it be time for America to join the rest of the civilized world?

Besides, this is a far cry from what Trump promised.

“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in an interview with The Washington Post. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”
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January 11th, 2018 at 9:38:13 AM permalink
Quote: Steverinos

Isn't that the fundamental question in this debate? Whether or not we want to live in a country that guarantees health care coverage to all its citizens? Regardless of who they are, what they look like, and yes, what their work ethic is? Could it be time for America to join the rest of the civilized world?

Besides, this is a far cry from what Trump promised.

“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in an interview with The Washington Post. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”



But you CAN pay for it. Volunteering at a minimum should be a requirement. Properly polled, over 80% of Americans would agree if the question includes the people who would be exempt.

And no I have no issue not insuring or even treating someone who is able to work and makes a conscious choice not to. And yea, I’ll throw out the if they don’t like it, go join the rest of the “civilized world” as you put it. I’m sure they welcome deadbeats openly when they express their intentions to not contribute. And yet so many from these countries are willing to risk it all to come here when we suck so bad as humans.
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January 11th, 2018 at 9:56:05 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

And yet so many from these countries are willing to risk it all to come here when we suck so bad as humans.



So many? How many people from Europe are "risking it all" to come here? Or our neighbors to the north? And exactly what are they risking? As far as immigrants from the south who do in fact risk it all, it's usually because they're fleeing violence in their own neighborhoods. They just want to live normal lives.

The healthcare debate is one that centers around what's up for profit. Exploiting people's fear of death for monetary gain, in my opinion, is just more and more greed. Why does EVERYTHING have to be for profit?

And there's A LOT of things that poll above 80% that don't get done. That should piss each and every one of us off, that 80% of us want something and it doesn't get done because of special interest and lobbyists in Washington.

But I go back to the many promises made by Trump that we are going to have healthcare for everybody, regardless of their personal situation. That's what he said. Of course, that was before he knew "health care was so complicated."
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January 11th, 2018 at 10:00:53 AM permalink
We will never agree on HC or most other political issues because our core beliefs are so different. It doesn’t make either of us wrong. Best wishes and thanks for the discussion.
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January 11th, 2018 at 10:08:55 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

We will never agree on HC or most other political issues because our core beliefs are so different. It doesn’t make either of us wrong. Best wishes and thanks for the discussion.



But there's room for agreement. Back when the GOP wasn't abandoning their own ideas and opposing everything Barack Obama did, they supported the individual mandate. The ACA was Bob Dole's plan. It was Mitt Romney's plan. It was the Heritage Foundation's answer to HillaryCare in the 90s. But yet, when Barack Obama wasn't anywhere NEAR liberal enough for liberals and didn't even touch the possibility of single-payer, abandoned the public option very early on in the debate, and finally settled on an idea that had garnered support in republican circles for two decades, now all of a sudden it was the worst thing to happen to America?

Anybody objective person paying attention over the last 20 years would immediately call BS.
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January 11th, 2018 at 10:15:48 AM permalink
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With all the resources available to her Oprah couldn't even accomplish a successful diet for the past thirty years. She was even determined to succeed and failed how many times. LOL

See the problem with politics that have "sides" such as left and right, or conservative and liberal? She's probably not running, we have no idea what her policies would be if she even were to try to run, yet already you're trying to bag on her in preparations for a fictitious presidential run where some on here might think she leans liberal.

And her diet worked better than any diet you've ever seen... she proved it over and over again by gaining it back then losing it all again lol. Clearly her diet DOES work =P.

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I guess it turned out ok with Ronald Reagan, but please no more celebrity presidents.

F that... if celebs are allowed I wanna see Neil Degrasse Tyson and Bill Nye for 2020... Not to mention they would literally be more qualified than trump too... because you know, science, logic, and not being a moron in general.
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January 11th, 2018 at 11:23:40 AM permalink
Very funny
Pauley Shore playing Stephen Miller on the CNN interview
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January 11th, 2018 at 12:20:31 PM permalink
So here is how trumps tax cuts benefits regular workers

7 hours ago walmart announced they are raising minimum wages for workers to $11 an hour anf giving workers a $1000 bonus all possible due to the GOP tax cuts

https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1F01N8

Wait for it...

2 hours ago they shut down all their Sams Club outlets laying off thousands of workers with no notice

https://www.aol.com/article/finance/2018/01/11/walmarts-sams-club-to-shut-stores-after-review/23331056/

Lol way to go trump n walmart
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January 11th, 2018 at 12:24:38 PM permalink
And don't forget Carrier laying off all those people in Indianapolis! Make America Unemployed Again!
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January 11th, 2018 at 12:34:13 PM permalink
Donnie just sold Norway some non-existent F-52s, and had to explain to the PM how she had thanked him for something he later said never came up in conversation.
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January 11th, 2018 at 1:53:58 PM permalink
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Donnie just sold Norway some non-existent F-52s,



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January 11th, 2018 at 6:43:21 PM permalink
So I guess we can say with all certainty that the president is a racist.
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January 11th, 2018 at 6:57:01 PM permalink
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So I guess we can say with all certainty that the president is a racist.


https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/7psmgr/so_this_just_happened/?st=JCBBZ51N&sh=9c4adc67
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January 11th, 2018 at 9:31:10 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

....2 hours ago they shut down all their Sams Club outlets laying off thousands of workers with no notice

https://www.aol.com/article/finance/2018/01/11/walmarts-sams-club-to-shut-stores-after-review/23331056/

Lol way to go trump n walmart


"All their Sam's Club Outlets" were shut down....I believe there are more than 63 Sam's Club's, correct me if I am wrong on that.

After these Sam Club closures, did Walmart end up adding or reducing the number of total US stores over the last 12 months?

Does Walmart employ more or less Americans than they did at the beginning of 2017?

Is Walmart is one of those nasty/un-American corporations that doesn't pay any corporate income taxes?

Look it up Oz and get back to us on those facts.

So yeah, I say "Way to Go Walmart" (and AT&T/Comcast/Visa/Southwest/Jet Blue)....a huge US Employer paying income taxes (along with Social Security and Medicare Taxes on the wages of those 1.4M+ employees to keep those single payer Madoff schemes alive) continues to hire more Americans and is now paying those Americans more in wages at least partially as a result of a decrease in their federal corporate tax rate.

What is wrong with that Oz...here's a shocker, retail stores close all the time! Maybe it's time to learn a new skill set, get hired by the Costco that put your Sam's Club out of business or move to one of those new Walmart locations that is opening up. I mean it isn't like anyone invested a lot of time in skill building or education to get that entry level job at Sam's Club. Surely what you learned on the job while employed by one of the greatest US Retailing companies in the world can transfer to another job somewhere.

I know...there's a lot of personal responsibility in there, my bad!
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January 11th, 2018 at 10:29:26 PM permalink
Speaking of personal responsibility, I’m wondering when our POS president will take any.
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January 12th, 2018 at 3:07:47 AM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

"All their Sam's Club Outlets" were shut down....I believe there are more than 63 Sam's Club's, correct me if I am wrong on that.

After these Sam Club closures, did Walmart end up adding or reducing the number of total US stores over the last 12 months?

Does Walmart employ more or less Americans than they did at the beginning of 2017?

Is Walmart is one of those nasty/un-American corporations that doesn't pay any corporate income taxes?

Look it up Oz and get back to us on those facts.

So yeah, I say "Way to Go Walmart" (and AT&T/Comcast/Visa/Southwest/Jet Blue)....a huge US Employer paying income taxes (along with Social Security and Medicare Taxes on the wages of those 1.4M+ employees to keep those single payer Madoff schemes alive) continues to hire more Americans and is now paying those Americans more in wages at least partially as a result of a decrease in their federal corporate tax rate.

What is wrong with that Oz...here's a shocker, retail stores close all the time! Maybe it's time to learn a new skill set, get hired by the Costco that put your Sam's Club out of business or move to one of those new Walmart locations that is opening up. I mean it isn't like anyone invested a lot of time in skill building or education to get that entry level job at Sam's Club. Surely what you learned on the job while employed by one of the greatest US Retailing companies in the world can transfer to another job somewhere.

I know...there's a lot of personal responsibility in there, my bad!



You mean like the fact that walmarts low wages cost 62 billion dollars in welfare benefits for its workers who need public assistance to survive?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/04/15/report-walmart-workers-cost-taxpayers-6-2-billion-in-public-assistance/amp/

These are the jobs republicans are currently happy to tout as making america great?
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January 12th, 2018 at 4:07:40 AM permalink
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January 10th, 2018 at 9:58:27 PMpermalink
Oprah would be a bad choice for some of the same reasons Trump was. Neither one of them is an administrator. They're celebrities, not executives.



Lol. Liberals are too funny when they're leaders are not in power!





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January 12th, 2018 at 5:09:42 AM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

So I guess we can say with all certainty that the president is a racist.



We've literally been able to say that with certainty since day 1 of his campaign.

The sad thing is a good chunk of his supporters LIKE THAT ABOUT HIM.
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January 12th, 2018 at 6:16:09 AM permalink
The silence in here is kind of deafening, tho.
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January 12th, 2018 at 8:41:49 AM permalink
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1F01N8

Quote: reuters

Walmart is likely to save billions of dollars from the new tax law, which slashed the corporate tax rate to 21 percent from 35 percent, and the wage hikes will cost the retailer only a fraction of those gains, analysts said.



They are closing approximately 10% of the Sam's club stores, affecting 7,500 workers.

The wage hike will affect about 1 million workers. Their starting wage is $9 and goes to $10 after training.
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January 12th, 2018 at 8:45:07 AM permalink
Get this phony piece of trash off of tv talking about this racist holiday!
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January 12th, 2018 at 8:48:42 AM permalink
The Sam’s club near me was closed and it was really weird how they did it. One day they just didn’t open the store and a cop was standing outside to tell the employees and customers the store wouldn’t be opening again.

I’m not sure why the cop was there or why it was his job.
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January 12th, 2018 at 9:01:24 AM permalink
Same exact thing transpired where I live. It was really weird.
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January 12th, 2018 at 9:14:09 AM permalink
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Steve, I apologize for telling you to shut up. I must have got up on the wrong side of bed this morning.

But for what it's worth, as long as Oprah is bringing up apartheid, perhaps she could comment on the ever-increasing murders of white farmers in South Africa. Y'know, as long as she's bringing up people who need to die off before racism is abolished from the face of the planet, maybe she could address the impending genocide of white South Africans. I'm just sayin.



(1) no reliable data exists suggests that white farmers are targeted by black farmers. Source: BBC
(2) 74 of the 19,000+ murders in South Africa were farmers, so the population of these people getting killed is extremely minor compared to the rest.
(3) It is unclear how many of the 74 farmers were white or what the motives of the killings were.

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January 12th, 2018 at 9:29:08 AM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

I didn't SAY she's talking about killing them off. In fact, I think I was QUITE SPECIFIC, about her meaning they need to die off, from old age. Pretty sure I quoted her accurately. I'm going to go back and look and see exactly what I said.

As an addition, I may have thrown something in on my own, after she DID mention "apartheid", and in that case, there is no "old age" requirement. In that case, there are 4 million white South Africans who need to be killed, and that is VERBATIM, according to some in leadership in that modern and 1st world nation. She mentioned "apartheid", and I think that gives me the justification to address that.



Given that you believe Michelle Obama is a man really says everything about how you come up with your views on the world. Your whole sense of reasoning is incredibly biased that when you see two pictures and a couple of stories by wackos and don't do a shred of any other research you come off to a completely false conclusion. It's like concluding Trump is gay because there is video of him kissing a man. He is not gay. Quite the contrary. You fail to take evidence into context and lack basic analysis skills. You are not the only one on this forum lacking those skills.

Not that I want Oprah to become president. I don't.
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January 12th, 2018 at 9:34:03 AM permalink
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What is wrong with that Oz...here's a shocker, retail stores close all the time! Maybe it's time to learn a new skill set, get hired by the Costco that put your Sam's Club out of business or move to one of those new Walmart locations that is opening up. I mean it isn't like anyone invested a lot of time in skill building or education to get that entry level job at Sam's Club. Surely what you learned on the job while employed by one of the greatest US Retailing companies in the world can transfer to another job somewhere.

I know...there's a lot of personal responsibility in there, my bad!



I don't understand how closing a location completely if you're a major retailer with no notice to employees is in any way justifiable.

I also agree with you that these are not skilled positions, which is why it is all the more important these people have some kind of notice. Maybe some of them are now going to be unable to make rent or other bill payments because they had no time to plan. Do you think Walmart cares about that?

The reason Walmart shuts them down without notice to the employees, and there's only one, is BECAUSE they don't want them to get another job. Specifically, they want ops to continue on a normal basis until the store shuts down, otherwise you'd have employees looking for new jobs before the place even closes.

You also act like everyone around the town is just going to be hiring and there are immediate jobs for the displaced workers...that's not always how that works. Even then, you have as much as a month before you actually draw a check.

Also, Walmart has kept a food distribution center that even handles raw foods open with no running water, no bathroom access and no port-a-johns at least once. Of course, that didn't stop people from using the bathrooms until they were eventually barricaded. Couldn't wash their hands, though. Yummy!---I guess that's also how responsibility works...let's potentially make our customers ill via produce.
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January 12th, 2018 at 9:34:13 AM permalink
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It sounded much more like she said, "...there are still generations of people, older people, who were born and bread [sic] and marinated in it, in prejudice and racism, and they just have to die..."


I also find it ironic there are many people (not saying you or anyone else here, specifically) who ragged on Trump because he's a "celebrity" running for president, but now they're perfectly fine and supporting Oprah to run in 2020. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Trump is (was*?) more of a businessman and acquired his wealth through business and real estate and then later on did the Apprentice. I didn't even know he did the Apprentice show until well into the campaign (I don't watch that show and don't really know what it is, other than it's some sort of a dating show, I think).

Whereas Oprah actually is a celebrity and that's how she's made her money, through her TV show(s), her own network, some studio, etc.



So what. Both Trump and Oprah required business acumen to succeed. And of course one can argue successfully that the road to success was alot harder for a black woman who started with nothing over a white man who started with a million bucks and Fred's inheritance once he went.

And no, I would not support Oprah as president, nor would I support a run in 2020 unless the Democratic field was so bad that every candidate was so flawed as to not have a possibility of beating a Trump campaign.
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January 12th, 2018 at 9:55:33 AM permalink
There's one major difference between Oprah and Trump, other than that Oprah is a good human being and Trump is not. Oprah BUILT her empire from the ground up, while Trump piggybacked off what his father had already accomplished.

I don't think I could get behind an Oprah run. I'd really like to see Gavin Newsom throw his name in the hat.
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January 12th, 2018 at 9:56:07 AM permalink
I use the same phrase Trump used while adding “3rd World” to it weekly when speaking with telemarketers who are just trying to help me:

Reduce my CC interest rate
Extent my car’s warranty
Reduce my student loan debt
Send me on vacation
Fix my google listing
And other great ways to help me.

So instead of telling them to stop calling from their 3rd Sh*thole, I should give them my CC number beginning in 6011 and help a fellow human being out.

Maybe they are actually calling from my area code and are just learning English. I just can’t figure out why they call America instead of others in their highly educated and successful first world nation.

Or maybe, just maybe they do live in a sh*thole. The question then is what is our obligation, if any to try and change that while Trillions in debt?

Reality not racism but the left never misses a chance to define others.
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January 12th, 2018 at 9:56:12 AM permalink
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http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1F01N8



They are closing approximately 10% of the Sam's club stores, affecting 7,500 workers.

The wage hike will affect about 1 million workers. Their starting wage is $9 and goes to $10 after training.



If this fact is true, then the cost to Walmart to paying these workers more is about 1.2 billion (assuming part time work), which represents half of the money saved by the tax break. Walmart paid 5 billion in Domestic taxes last year (actual and deferred). That bill stands to go down to about 2.8 billion, a savings of 2.2 billion.

I applaud ANY company that decides to take some proceeds of the tax breaks and funnel it to its lowest paid workers.

Mind you we could go into a discussion of how Walmart destroyed downtowns of many cities by destroying all of its competition and how cruel it was, especially in its early days. My view was that with technology and globalization, the advent of a Walmart with its incredible supply chain that made low prices possible, essentially outpricing its competition through scale, strongarming vendor negotiations, scale, and wage structure to lower costs and prices was simply incredible..

Americans should just be happy that Walmart is an American company and that Walmart was not owned by the Chinese.
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January 12th, 2018 at 9:57:41 AM permalink
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There's one major difference between Oprah and Trump, other than that Oprah is a good human being and Trump is not. Oprah BUILT her empire from the ground up, while Trump piggybacked off what his father had already accomplished.

I don't think I could get behind an Oprah run. I'd really like to see Gavin Newsom throw his name in the hat.



I think the 2020 election, like the 2016 election was "anyone but Hillary", will be an "anyone but Trump" election. You'll support whoever is not Trump, even if it's a sock puppet.
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January 12th, 2018 at 9:59:39 AM permalink
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I think the 2020 election, like the 2016 election was "anyone but Hillary", will be an "anyone but Trump" election. You'll support whoever is not Trump, even if it's a sock puppet.



Lol, probably. But I really like what I've seen from Newsom.
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