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Quote: boymimboIn my opinion, one should always have some programs available to allow people without means to acquire skills at little cost, and to provide wages to give them opportunities to continue to acquire skills, feed, house and cloth themselves. Yes, work hard. But provide opportunities and make it worthwhile to work hard.
I can't say that I disagree with you but the programs we have today have not gotten the job done and there are a lot of them that don't make sense in that they don't reward the ones who really try with more than they ones who continue to wallow. I see people struggle everyday, some smart enough and some blessed with very little intelligence, and I see both types (and many in between) take advantage of opportunities to succeed at whatever level possible to them and others who don't try nearly as hard.
We can go back and forth about it all day, as we can about political stuff of all types, but there don't seem to be true efforts towards solutions instead of name calling and continual perpetuation of programs that need reworked.
My wife's aunt thinks we should take care of her granddaughter raising a child alone forever; I think we should giver her a hand up and help her out of the situation with the chance to get more than she would get by just saying "woe is me".
The politics of division work for both "sides" but they don't do squat for the rest of the country.
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Quote: darkoz
He even says his dad gave him ONLY a million dollars to start
I don't understand this line of thinking.
John D Rockefeller got started with a
loan from his father of a few thousand,
in the 1860's, when that was a LOT of
money. He parlayed it into billions,
just like Trump. Yet nobody in history
has ever dissed John D for starting with
a family loan.
Quote: EvenBobI don't understand this line of thinking.
John D Rockefeller got started with a
loan from his father of a few thousand,
in the 1860's, when that was a LOT of
money. He parlayed it into billions,
just like Trump. Yet nobody in history
has ever dissed John D for starting with
a family loan.
Did Rockefeller brag about it being a "small" loan? The $1 million that Trump got is almost $7 million in today's dollars.
Regardless, Rockefeller received his fair share of criticism for a lot of things.
Quote: TigerWuDid Rockefeller brag about it being a "small" loan?
Pretty much, yeah. He downplayed it's
importance because, just like all self
made billionaires, he had a huge ego.
Criticism? He was a ruthless, evil man,
who had the Bible in one hand and
a gun in the other. There's nothing he
wouldn't do to put you out of business
if you got in his way. He was the most
hated and despised man of his time.
He only became the greatest philanthropist
in history to relieve the crushing weight
of public opinion against him.
Quote: EvenBob
Criticism? He was a ruthless, evil man,
who had the Bible in one hand and
a gun in the other. There's nothing he
wouldn't do to put you out of business
if you got in his way. He was the most
hated and despised man of his time.
He only became the greatest philanthropist
in history to relieve the crushing weight
of public opinion against him.
This is the understatement of the century. The whole family is evil. Finally, David croaked a few months ago at 101. But it was never just about money. They were the king makers, behind the throne. I can confidently say that David was the most powerful person in the Western Hemisphere. And no "philanthropy" was without political strings, either.
Rockefeller was one of other wealthy "capitalists" who financed the Bolsheviks. They created communism. Another fact of interest is the financing from Chase of the Kama River Truck Factory in the USSR. If you don't know about that, look it up.
And as secretive as the whole family is, they are an "open book" compared to the Rothschilds.
And speaking of Snopes, which nobody was, this is ANOTHER area where Snopes is full of crap. Snopes defends the charges against the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds and basically dismisses it as conspiracy theory paranoia. Snopes is for dopes.
Quote: RS44,000%+ return on a loan is pretty good.
Without buying Bitcoin.
Quote: EvenBobI don't understand this line of thinking.
John D Rockefeller got started with a
loan from his father of a few thousand,
in the 1860's, when that was a LOT of
money. He parlayed it into billions,
just like Trump. Yet nobody in history
has ever dissed John D for starting with
a family loan.
That's because the Trump Family does not control the entire American news/media, obviously. But the Rockefellers do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FPAQlbmlSc
Quote: bobbartopThis is the understatement of the century. The whole family is evil.
John D was a rabid Baptist. Didn't swear,
drink, smoke, or cheat on his wife, He
would, however, ruin you and your family
if you got in his way. He started the Fed,
with a few of his buddies, and they still
control it. He'll probably always be the
richest man there ever was if you convert
to buying power of today's money. He
built entire hospitals, and universities,
not just added wings to them. Wealth
that even Gates or Zuckerburg can't
comprehend.
Quote: darkozLol. Trump inherited his position. Do your homework
He even says his dad gave him ONLY a million dollars to start
LOL like that was in 1973 when a loaf of bread cost $.35.
Now do you see your hypocrisy
No, I do not. Many people get a hand from their parents. Trump built that small loan into a billions of dollars empire and a worldwide brand. Who he had to deal with were not the Boy Scouts. How many other real estate developers have you even heard of let alone come close to what he has accomplished?
Quote:And lets not get started on Melania. Why does an ex-model from another country have a position of power in the white house? Marrying into it. Sleeping her way to the top (or bottom of the pile)
She does not have a "position of power." She has the typical First Lady powers. Hillary had a West Wing office, then a Senate Seat handed to her. All because of who she was married to.
Quote: EvenBobJohn D was a rabid Baptist. Didn't swear,
drink, smoke, or cheat on his wife, He
would, however, ruin you and your family
if you got in his way. He started the Fed,
with a few of his buddies, and they still
control it. He'll probably always be the
richest man there ever was if you convert
to buying power of today's money. He
built entire hospitals, and universities,
not just added wings to them. Wealth
that even Gates or Zuckerburg can't
comprehend.
Right you are, EvenBob! Thanks for that.
Rockefeller's man in the Senate was Senator Nelson Aldrich of Rhode Island. From Wiki:
"The Aldrich Plan strongly influenced the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, which established the Federal Reserve System. Aldrich also sponsored the Sixteenth Amendment, which allowed for a direct federal income tax."
And now we know where Nelson ALDRICH Rockefeller got HIS name from.
Quote: AZDuffman.
She would have huge support in the party. Not to say the Bernie-Wing would not still be there, and maybe be bigger. But she has support where it counts in the Democrat Party. The Superdelegates would fall right into line. The power brokers would fall in line, though an outright fix like last time is less likely. The unions would provide an army of workers for her.
The Clintons OWN most of the Democrats, just like a mafia boss owns his family. They know where bodies are buried and what is in everyone's closet. 25+ years and you get this power.
Her political career is far from over. Remember, as a Democrat you can leave a woman to die in a lake and get re-elected. You can smoke crack on an FBI camera and get re-elected. You can admit to cheating on your wife on national TV and get the nomination.
You can do next to anything and get re-elected. All you need to do is tell the sheep, "Vote for me or Jones will come back!" And the sheep will vote for you again.
This is just such nonsense. You have a bad habit of posting what others you don't like think and will do, when it's just fantasy and conspiracy theories of yours. This, women, blacks, parents, other people you generalize about while living apart from them, their issues and concerns.
Hillary's done, whether she likes it or not. And she agrees she's done. There are many other people positioning themselves from within the party, who haven't had a billion + dollars spent on them in 2 losses. The party has moved on. The public has moved on. And she herself has moved on.
Time for the right wing to move on as well. Instead they hype her up like a creature living under America's bed. It's all fundraising and spin.
Quote: boymimboSimplistic view not supported by any evidence, and there are plenty of jurisdictions throughout the United States and the world where there is no correlation between a minimum wage hike and unemployment. We've argued this before.
Not at all a "simplistic" view. Have you never been a teenager needing an after-school job? Have you never moonlighted for a few extra bucks? Do you not know any retired folks who just want a job to fill time and again make a few bucks?
There is ABSOLUTELY a correlation. Raise the price of anything and there is less demand for it. Have you been to WMT or your grocery store with the self-serve lanes? How many car washes have rag-men drying your car anymore? The correlation may not be immediate, but it is there.
Quote:The fact is that there will be a portion of society where they do not have skills, due to lack of opportunity, bad decisions, being raised poorly, disability, sickness, etc. Your libertarian view is "too bad", and you offer no solution for them to acquire skills when they have no money to go to school (even a trade school) to acquire skills. Even when they acquire a skill you propose a wage where they cannot support themselves anyway (or go to school to further advance skills) in which case the government will step in with programs so that they don't end up dead on the streets, which ultimately is paid for with more expensive tax dollars (treatment is far more expensive than prevention, ask your doctor). I would suggest that putting someone in jail for years is far less economic than funding for a program that keeps that kid off the streets or provide skills through government-funded programs.
By doing nothing, all that happens is exacerbate a cycle of never-ending poverty, which adds to crime rates, homeless rates, and a division in society between the haves and have-nots. In the end, makes your United States a more dangerous place because for some reason, it's more important to fund a new aircraft carrier than to provide programs to the poor.
In my opinion, one should always have some programs available to allow people without means to acquire skills at little cost, and to provide wages to give them opportunities to continue to acquire skills, feed, house and cloth themselves. Yes, work hard. But provide opportunities and make it worthwhile to work hard.
We have PLENTY of programs to acquire skills. 12 years of school for free. Pell Grants. Student loans. Union trade programs. Or you can just start at an unskilled job and learn on-the-job. Yeah, they all take time. That is life.
As to "providing programs for the poor" well we have provided depending on how you measure, $15-22 TRILLION. Current GDP is around $19 Trillion. IOW, since 1964, we have provided an entire year of USA output to "help the poor." When is enough enough?
I take objection to the "worthwhile to work hard" BTW. You go to work because it is up to you to feed, clothe, and house yourself. Saying "it is not worth it to work" is to say, "I am a lazy slug and I want someone else to support me."
Quote: bobbartopRight you are, EvenBob! Thanks for that.
My fave Rockefeller story is from the 1890's,
around 1900. Rockefeller was an avid golfer.
Even in the winter. He had a 9 hole course
on his upstate NY estate. This was before
the days of snow removal vehicles. So when
it snowed, a literal army of mostly Black
men would descend on the course and shovel
all 9 holes clear of snow by hand. Down to grass.
Hours of backbreaking work so a rich old
man could get in his 9 holes.
That was wealth. That's what you could do if you
had real money in 1900. And not give a second thought
to it.
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On another note, I will continue to be mostly absent from here. I am well, I just found myself spending too much time not getting anywhere. I've helped start a new business. left a job that an owner is slowly destroying, and just generally spend less time on the computer.
Have a Merry Christmas!!!
I was surprised to see you post. Nice to see you again. Good luck with the new job, and enjoy the world away from the keyboard. Merry Christmas!
Quote: beachbumbabsThis is just such nonsense. You have a bad habit of posting what others you don't like think and will do, when it's just fantasy and conspiracy theories of yours. This, women, blacks, parents, other people you generalize about while living apart from them, their issues and concerns.
Not nonsense at all. Did she not win last time largely by locking up the Superdelegates? Were blacks not strongly behind her? Do unions not use their member's dues to pound the pavement for the chosen Democrat?
As to "generalizing" that is how intelligent people make a point. I said before, I do not have time to take a US Census form and say, "Jane X is a single mother and she supports Hilalry. Mary Y is a single woman and she does not." It is easy to see who supports what when you just look around.
Quote:Hillary's done, whether she likes it or not. And she agrees she's done. There are many other people positioning themselves from within the party, who haven't had a billion + dollars spent on them in 2 losses. The party has moved on. The public has moved on. And she herself has moved on.
She may or may not be done. I am looking at her history. The Clintons never go away. If she was "done" then tell me why has she started a PAC and why will she hit the campaign trail as she said she will? Hmmmm? People her age who are "done" go home and play with their grandkids. Your party is stuck with her.
Quote:Time for the right wing to move on as well. Instead they hype her up like a creature living under America's bed. It's all fundraising and spin.
She is a creature, like the kind from a horror movie that you just cannot kill, keeps coming back. As to fundraising and spin, lots of hutzpah to say that form someone who posts what you do on President Trump.
Quote: beachbumbabsThis is just such nonsense. You have a bad habit of posting what others you don't like think and will do, when it's just fantasy and conspiracy theories of yours. This, women, blacks, parents, other people you generalize about while living apart from them, their issues and concerns.
Hillary's done, whether she likes it or not. And she agrees she's done. There are many other people positioning themselves from within the party, who haven't had a billion + dollars spent on them in 2 losses. The party has moved on. The public has moved on. And she herself has moved on.
Time for the right wing to move on as well. Instead they hype her up like a creature living under America's bed. It's all fundraising and spin.
You know what we need on this group? A "no thank you button".
Quote: EvenBobMy fave Rockefeller story is from the 1890's,
around 1900. Rockefeller was an avid golfer.
Even in the winter. He had a 9 hole course
on his upstate NY estate. This was before
the days of snow removal vehicles. So when
it snowed, a literal army of mostly Black
men would descend on the course and shovel
all 9 holes clear of snow by hand. Down to grass.
Hours of backbreaking work so a rich old
man could get in his 9 holes.
That was wealth. That's what you could do if you
had real money in 1900. And not give a second thought
to it.
First off, The Rocks wintered in Florida. Next off, his estate is just outside of Sleepy Hollow. If you drafted every able bodied male from there to Tarrytown, you couldn't hand shovel a golf course.
As his biographer put it- "So much good had unexpectedly flowered from so much evil that God might even have greeted him on the other side."
Quote: AZDuffmanShe may or may not be done. I am looking at her history.
Her history is, she waits and waits and keeps
people guessing till the last minute if
she will run or not. She did it for 2016,
had people pulling their hair out not
knowing what she was going to do.
She will never quit as long as she can
be propped up to croak and cough
out a speech and be helped into
a waiting medivan.
Quote: AZDuffman
She is a creature, like the kind from a horror movie that you just cannot kill, keeps coming back. As to fundraising and spin, lots of hutzpah to say that form someone who posts what you do on President Trump.
I hadn't thought of the word "hutzpah", but I will now.
Somehow I don't think Hillary is ever going to be an old lady knitting in a rocking chair. Bill married her for a reason. She's brilliant, and had all the "qualities".
Quote: EvenBobHer history is, she waits and waits and keeps
people guessing till the last minute if
she will run or not. She did it for 2016,
had people pulling their hair out not
knowing what she was going to do.
Exactly right, and exactly what I am basing my opinions on. Saying she is "out" now is meaningless. Starting a PAC, that shows something. Keeping her face in the public eye, that says something. Actions speak.
She may or may not run, but she will end up freezing things, money and other, for 6 months or more. She will be jockeying for behind-the-scenes power. This is the kind of awful human being she is.
Quote: AZDuffmanExactly right, and exactly what I am basing my opinions on. Saying she is "out" now is meaningless. Starting a PAC, that shows something. Keeping her face in the public eye, that says something. Actions speak.
She may or may not run, but she will end up freezing things, money and other, for 6 months or more. She will be jockeying for behind-the-scenes power. This is the kind of awful human being she is.
By the way, excellent point about the career of Ted Kennedy, even AFTER he killed a girl, which you referenced in an above post. Talk about "staying power". I owe you a thank-you button for that.
Anyone know how the Seth Rich cold case is doing? Or are the fake news people done with that?
Quote: bobbartopBy the way, excellent point about the career of Ted Kennedy, even AFTER he killed a girl, which you referenced in an above post. Talk about "staying power". I owe you a thank-you button for that.
Democrats let their guys do anything.
Saw an article, said 2018 will be the first year a political party will run on a promise of impeachment. So the Democrats will lower the bar for "high crimes" to being "because we do not like him!"
So long, Republic!
For those that are "sure" Hillary is not going to run again, give me 10-1, since you are sure.
I'd say the fair odds are around 1 in 4 chance of her running.
Quote: AZDuffmanDemocrats let their guys do anything.
Saw an article, said 2018 will be the first year a political party will run on a promise of impeachment. So the Democrats will lower the bar for "high crimes" to being "because we do not like him!"
So long, Republic!
Because you saw it in an article? A right wing puff piece? Lol really
gorgeous, ain't nobody wondering if she's
a man or not, what a change..
Quote: EvenBobMelania on Xmas morning. Holy crap.. She's
gorgeous, ain't nobody wondering if she's
a man or not, what a change..
Wait Melania had a sex change? Finally admitting it?
Quote: darkozBecause you saw it in an article? A right wing puff piece? Lol really
Are you too young to remember Chappaquiddick? Lol really.
Quote: darkoz
Wait Melania had a sex change? Finally admitting it?
Very mature contribution to the discussion. Earn some respect.
Quote: bobbartopAre you too young to remember Chappaquiddick? Lol really.
No im not
Apparently you are
Incidents involving the Kennedys 50 sometging years ago have what to do with Hillary Clinton?
Like are you too young to remember Andersonville? Really you make no sense?
Quote: bobbartopVery mature contribution to the discussion. Earn some respect.
Wait are you suggesting rigjt wing conspiracy nuts gain some respect after claiming for ten pages on here that Michelle Obama is a sex change
At any rate it was Evenbob who said it
Evenbob: "there can be no one who doubts Melania is a man... What a change"
Merry Christmas everyone.
Some food for thought on the world we now live in.
Quote: beachbumbabsWas I supposed to watch the clip or read the editorial? I read. I agreed.
Sorry the story. Merry Christmas Babs!
Quote: BozSorry the story. Merry Christmas Babs!
Merry Christmas to you and Mrs. Boz! Hope you rake it in over the holidays!
Quote: Bozhttp://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/20/opinions/sexual-harassment-culture-christmas-opinion-costello/index.html
Merry Christmas everyone.
Some food for thought on the world we now live in.
I don't necessarily see it as a bad thing when the tables get turned,. Many act in the same way when they are potentially on the other side -- with what did I do to deserve this? I did nothing. Yeah. It's kind of hilarious in a tragic sort of way.
Quote: Bozhttp://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/20/opinions/sexual-harassment-culture-christmas-opinion-costello/index.html
Merry Christmas everyone.
Some food for thought on the world we now live in.
I especially like guys like Tom Leykis who busts
the whole charade out in the open. Never spend
more than $40 on a dinner with a woman, if
you can get her to pay, even better. Never open
a door for her, never tell her she looks great.
Never date single mothers, they will never put
you first over their kids and they'll want you to foot
the bills for all their past mistakes.
If you aren't having sex by the 3rd date, stop
calling her. If she answers her phone during
dinner out, excuse yourself, pretend to go
to the restroom and go home instead. If
you fight in a car and she demands to be
let out, do it and leave her there. If she
texts you, never text back unless she asks
a specific question. Never text her first for
any reason.
Never get married before 35, never have
a GF before 25. Sleep around before then
with as many women as possible. Always
make sure she's on the pill and always
use a condom. Always. Never let the
woman dispose of the condom, they've
learned they can use sperm in a condom
to get pregnant with, happens to guys
all the time now. (they lie about being
on the pill to trick you)
This is a different world where women
don't want to be treated like women
were treated in generations past. Men
have to wise up.
That's some pretty kick ass bragging rights there kiddo.Quote: beachbumbabsHere's what I know. I met Michelle in 2012, hugged her close, front to front.
I probably would have, if only for that reason. I'm not a huggie person. But I did get at a full frontal hug from Alannah MIles, what could I do, she started it? Obviously since she initiated the contact, she must have thought that I would eventually break loose. Nope, not me.
Down thread you talk about the weird arched hugs people do now? I have a question. I'm not a huggie person, but sometimes women I meet are. I don't feel comfortable pressing firmly against their breasts, is that ok? I feel weird making that kind of contact with someone I barely know, or someone I know better. That kind of contact is reserved for my wife? What say you?
It would be fine with me if women only wanted to shake hands. Hugs can be unpleasant if they have strong perfume on, or hair spray.
And, some people have big guts, it takes an arch to get arms around each other for a hug.
Quote: petroglyphThat's some pretty kick ass bragging rights there kiddo.
I probably would have, if only for that reason. I'm not a huggie person. But I did get at a full frontal hug from Alannah MIles,
You hugged Allanah Myles? OMG, the hottest
woman ever on stage. This is my fave:
Quote: darkozWait are you suggesting rigjt wing conspiracy nuts gain some respect after claiming for ten pages on here that Michelle Obama is a sex change
Never said "she" had a sex change. But what I did claim, came with plenty of evidence. All you offered was that you don't believe it. So you have an opinion. Bfd.
Quote: bobbartopNever said "she" had a sex change. But what I did claim, came with plenty of evidence. All you offered was that you don't believe it. So you have an opinion. Bfd.
No you offered a flawed opinion based on suspect evidence. Which makes your opinion on michelles gender worthless
Donald Trump was caught by Russians having at least 7 trannie hookers peeing on him. One of those trannies was Melania Trump
In a prid quo pro agreement Trump paid for Melanias sex change in return for helping Trump get elected along with a marriage of dubious means
It is a well known fact that Melania Trump is brother to Vladimir Putin
These allegations have all been confirmed by Steve Bannon through Breitbart News
Quote: darkozNo you offered a flawed opinion based on suspect evidence. Which makes your opinion on michelles gender worthless
Well there's something flopping around in there. I can't prove it's a penis. It just looks like one, and acts like one. So I am honest in saying that I am not sure. And since I have not seen it, nor touched it, nor squeezed it, I cannot say for sure that it is a penis. That's more objectivity than you have offered. You can't say for sure that it ain't. So gtfo.
Quote: bobbartopWell there's something flopping around in there. I can't prove it's a penis. It just looks like one, and acts like one. So I am honest in saying that I am not sure. And since I have not seen it, nor touched it, nor squeezed it, I cannot say for sure that it is a penis. That's more objectivity than you have offered. You can't say for sure that it ain't. So gtfo.
Again flawed logic.
I do not have to pull michelle obamas pants down and stick my hand up her to tell if she is a woman
If that is the only way you have of telling true women apart from transgender i feel sorry for you. You must have lots of success with the ladies
BTW - i have no shame in admitting that I have dated both female and transgender women. So i.can tell them apart. There is even a term for it in the trannie community its called "knowing the T" most people who "are in the life" find it easy to "know the T"
ALL trannies do a "tuck" thats placing their penis n testicles between their legs to simulate the flat female pubic area. No respectable trannie would walk around with their penis showing thru their dress. Any straight male on here who imagines that is really showing their ignorance.
Trannies with small ones will use thongs to keep from having it "run loose" Obama is a real woman but trust me if she was a trannie she wouldnt have that problem
Right now any trannie reading your comments about michelle would be shaking their heads at your ridiculous accusations
Quote: darkozAgain flawed logic.
I do not have to pull michelle obamas pants down and stick my hand up her to tell if she is a woman
If that is the only way you have of telling true women apart from transgender i feel sorry for you. You must have lots of success with the ladies
BTW - i have no shame in admitting that I have dated both female and transgender women. So i.can tell them apart. There is even a term for it in the trannie community its called "knowing the T" most people who "are in the life" find it easy to "know the T"
ALL trannies do a "tuck" thats placing their penis n testicles between their legs to simulate the flat female pubic area. No respectable trannie would walk around with their penis showing thru their dress. Any straight male on here who imagines that is really showing their ignorance.
Trannies with small ones will use thongs to keep from having it "run loose" Obama is a real woman but trust me if she was a trannie she wouldnt have that problem
Right now any trannie reading your comments about michelle would be shaking their heads at your ridiculous accusations
No one said Michelle was a respectable trannie.
Never seen a PG movie where 7 tranny hookers pee on people. #dontshootthemessenger
Quote: darkoz
BTW - i have no shame in admitting that I have dated both female and transgender women. So i.can tell them apart. There is even a term for it in the trannie community its called "knowing the T" most people who "are in the life" find it easy to "know the T"
Eeewww. Way too much information. You're creeping me out, and that's hard to do. Don't post to me anymore. I feel like I need a shower. I'll see if I can figure out how to work the "block" thingie, maybe you can reciprocate. It'll all be good. Adios.
Quote: bobbartopEeewww. Way too much information. You're creeping me out, and that's hard to do. Don't post to me anymore. I feel like I need a shower. I'll see if I can figure out how to work the "block" thingie, maybe you can reciprocate. It'll all be good. Adios.
Yippee. Really feel like i accomplished something. You just made my day
You feel you need to take a shower now. Sorry but we havent got that far in our relationship yet
BTW - are you certain you want to "reciprocate" with me now that you know the circumstances
I've already disproved the Michael Obama theory and the Pope's kissing of certain people's hands. None of this has anything to do with Trump.
Certain members of the forum are using the same strategy that Trump takes: lie and deflect, which is important to further the fringe right's causes. With the Russia investigation, there is indeed something important going on, and as I have said, it will likely lead to nothing, but the investigation (just like Hillary's email investigation at State and Benghazi) needs to come to its conclusion. People on the right can't complain about a GOP witch-hunt and the Dem witch-hunt at the same time. As for "nothing to see", people within Trump's sphere are getting arrested. Whether that leads to Trump himself is still to be determined.
Quote: boymimbo
Certain members of the forum are using the same strategy that Trump takes: lie and deflect, which is important to further the fringe right's causes. With the Russia investigation, there is indeed something important going on, and as I have said, it will likely lead to nothing, but the investigation (just like Hillary's email investigation at State and Benghazi) needs to come to its conclusion. People on the right can't complain about a GOP witch-hunt and the Dem witch-hunt at the same time. As for "nothing to see", people within Trump's sphere are getting arrested. Whether that leads to Trump himself is still to be determined.
There is for sure something going on, deep state powers trying to fix then overturn an election. Hillary's email "investigation" had the conclusion drawn before it started. The Russia investigation was started with no evidence or logic. Democrats complained Russians posting on FB somehow flipped the election? Really?
We knew the media was corrupt, but to this extent? FBI and CIA seem to have picked sides in 2016, too. I lost what little faith I had left in the system.
