However, I'd put money on the inscription and signature matching those in the card from Moore to the consensual girl he dated when she was 17 and he 35. They showed pictures side by side, and it looked like a pure match. Not sure how either would get a credible handwriting sample of his without the basic story being true.
I don't think the notation invalidates the inscription. I think they should have said the printing was added in the first place, but maybe it seemed as obvious to them as it does to me.
Experienced journalists at ABC News and the Washington Post, neither fans of President Trump by any means, and their experts are apologizing and explaining. Maybe reading them would settle some qualms.Quote: beachbumbabsI don't think the notation invalidates the inscription. I think they should have said the printing was added in the first place, but maybe it seemed as obvious to them as it does to me.
Quote: SanchoPanzaExperienced journalists at ABC News and the Washington Post, neither fans of President Trump by any means, and their experts are apologizing and explaining. Maybe reading them would settle some qualms.
Could you please link to the "apologies" from WashPo and ABC?
Page 285, if it's not too much trouble.Quote: ams288Could you please link to the "apologies" from WashPo and ABC?
Quote: SanchoPanzaPage 285, if it's not too much trouble.
I see no "apology" from either Washington Post or ABC on page 285.
Most likely because they didn't apologize for the yearbook notation sorry, because there is nothing to apologize for.
But I see Breitbart is running with this story. The Nazis that frequent that site must be spreading it elsewhere.
I know it's a long page, but here's a hint: It's under my stage name.Quote: ams288I see no "apology" from either Washington Post or ABC on page 285.
Most likely because they didn't apologize for the yearbook notation sorry, because there is nothing to apologize for.
But I see Breitbart is running with this story. The Nazis that frequent that site must be spreading it elsewhere.
But keep clicking Breitbart's page. Steve Bannon thanks you.
Quote: SanchoPanzaNot that anyone here particularly cares,
Seems you missed some important things also happened today
Quote:Gloria Allred said Friday that a hired handwriting expert found the signature to be authentic.
“We think it’s important evidence that supports Beverly’s statements that Roy Moore asked to sign her yearbook when she was just 16 years old. And it demonstrates that when Roy Moore stated, quote, `I do not know any of these women,’ end quote, that statement does not appear to be true,” Allred said.
Allred acknowledged that Nelson added the date and restaurant name below the signature.
http://fox2now.com/2017/12/08/roy-moores-campaign-accuser-battle-over-yearbook-signature/
Then why were they insisting the entire time that everything(including the date and location) was written by him? Even if some of it's true, her and her attorney have zero credibility now IMO.Quote: beachbumbabsIt seemed obvious from the first picture of it that a different person wrote the date and place below the inscription. Whether that happened at the time, after he became infamous as a judge, or just recently, I haven't heard. Could have been an innocent notation from years ago of a guy nobody else in her circle might know.
However, I'd put money on the inscription and signature matching those in the card from Moore to the consensual girl he dated when she was 17 and he 35. They showed pictures side by side, and it looked like a pure match. Not sure how either would get a credible handwriting sample of his without the basic story being true.
I don't think the notation invalidates the inscription. I think they should have said the printing was added in the first place, but maybe it seemed as obvious to them as it does to me.
(and I believe he had more than his eye on them)
I'm not defending the guy overall, I have no doubt he was into some F***** up S***. I'm only talking about this particular incident.Quote: rxwineWhy doesn't Moore saying in an interview that he first noticed his wife when she would have been15 also give him zero credibility? He had his eye on young girls.
(and I believe he had more than his eye on them)
Let's not forget, women do lie about this kind of stuff. I'm concerned about this "believe all women" trend. It will be misused and innocent men could go down with as little as some simple untruthful accusations.
He is still absolutely and utterly unfit to be a U.S. Senator and nobody with a sane and sound mind should be defending him or anything he says.
Quote:The Treasury Department paid $220,000 in a previously undisclosed agreement to settle a lawsuit alleging sexual harassment that involved Florida Democrat Alcee L. Hastings, according to documents obtained by Roll Call.
Winsome Packer, a former staff member of a congressional commission that promotes international human rights, said in documents that the congressman touched her, made unwanted sexual advances, and threatened her job. At the time, Hastings was the chairman of the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, where Packer worked.
SO... aside from another case ==
How the f*** do they hide this spending?
And what other spending are they hiding? And how are they hiding that.
Pretty sure I'll be writing my congressman about this - but that's kind of like asking the wolf how the wolves are getting away with eating the chickens. He'll sound sympathetic, but who knows if anything gets changed.
Quote: rxwineSO... aside from another case ==
How the f*** do they hide this spending?
And what other spending are they hiding? And how are they hiding that.
Pretty sure I'll be writing my congressman about this - but that's kind of like asking the wolf how the wolves are getting away with eating the chickens. He'll sound sympathetic, but who knows if anything gets changed.
Ask one the masters.
Quote: MaxPen
First off the wife has divorced and moved on. They hav employees that do the work
Secondly they dont determine "what" is true or false. They "check" if what is being touted is true or false. There is a difference! Sorry for you if you have trouble differentiating that
Quote: darkoz
First off the wife has divorced and moved on. They hav employees that do the work
Secondly they dont determine "what" is true or false. They "check" if what is being touted is true or false. There is a difference! Sorry for you if you have trouble differentiating that
Quote: ams288Don't forget the ones that just post unfunny memes to try to change the topic.
This has aged well.
I'm guessing they slush it under Congressional Administrative costs. I think they have quite a large budget. Janitorial services, Senate and House clerks, electricity, water, etc etc etc. It's a huge complex, not just the main building with the rotunda. There's even a subway that just runs from one end to the other in the basement. I don't think it's automated. I think there's a driver, unless they've updated it. Open topped, about 4 to a car.Quote: rxwineSO... aside from another case ==
How the f*** do they hide this spending?
And what other spending are they hiding? And how are they hiding that.
Pretty sure I'll be writing my congressman about this - but that's kind of like asking the wolf how the wolves are getting away with eating the chickens. He'll sound sympathetic, but who knows if anything gets changed.
The federal government would step in unless one of us was criminally negligent or deliberately malicious. Mistaken or careless, we would still be held harmless - if we survived the guilt.
I think Congress is a bit more brazen.
Quote: MaxPenI found a coffee shop some of you seeking a safe space might enjoy. It appears to be a leftie haven of tolerance without any inkling of hypocrisy.
I thought conservatives were championing for small businesses, like, say, a cake shop, to be able to deny service to whomever they like for any reason.
Quote: gamerfreakI thought conservatives were championing for small businesses, like, say, a cake shop, to be able to deny service to whomever they like for any reason.
Absolutely......
Only they, and those they support know what is best for you. And if you don’t agree you are a racist, idiot, tax cheat, user of others, you name it.
I feel bad for anyone who fell for the liberal nonsense that they could never make it in America without cheating your fellow man (or woman).
Hard work and making the hard decisions has never paid off more than today. Unless of course you play in mob owned casinos with cheating Chinese cards.
Quote: BozWatching Chris Matthews and Eugene Robinson cry that Roy will win the election tomorrow tells you all you need to know about how they feel about their fellow Americans in Alabama.
If my fellow Americans in Alabama elect a child molester tomorrow night, then I'll feel fine saying Alabamans are scum.
This week's special election will be one of the most significant in Alabama's history. As a native daughter, I remain - at heart - an Alabaman who loves our state and its devotion to faith, family, and country.
I encourage you to take a stand for our core principles and for what is right. These critical times require us to come together to reject bigotry, sexism, and intolerance.
It is imperative for Americans to remain focused on our priorities and not give way to side shows and antics. I know that Alabamans need an independent voice in Washington. But we must also insist that our representatives are dignified, decent, and respectful of the values we hold dear.
Please exercise your right to vote - a privilege won by the sacrifices of our ancestors. Sustain the central ideals and values that make our country a beacon for freedom and justice for the sake of Alabama and for the good of the United States of America.
Quote: Boz
Only they, and those they support know what is best for you.
While it's irritating to be told what to do, occasionally the other person is absolutely right. Yup both conservatives and liberals are right sometimes.
If you refuse to do something that is right, because you're offended, you have something in common with children who haven't learned an important lesson about doing what's right even though the other person has made you mad.
Quote: rsactuaryTrump tells his Florida audience to go vote for Roy Moore. :facepalm"
Trump has had so many things that open him up to ridicule, but this is another in a long list of things that an anti-Trump guy points to just because he is anti-Trump. You don't think Trump doesn't know that whenever he speaks it is news, and seen by not just those in attendance? When people bash him for things that are reasonable, those people lose credibility themselves, and actually make Trump look more sympathetic.
Quote: beachbumbabsI'm guessing they slush it under Congressional Administrative costs. I think they have quite a large budget. Janitorial services, Senate and House clerks, electricity, water, etc etc etc. It's a huge complex, not just the main building with the rotunda. There's even a subway that just runs from one end to the other in the basement. I don't think it's automated. I think there's a driver, unless they've updated it. Open topped, about 4 to a car.
I have taken that 'subway'. There is a driver. No idea what it pays, but likely the easiest job in the world.
Quote: SOOPOOTrump has had so many things that open him up to ridicule, but this is another in a long list of things that an anti-Trump guy points to just because he is anti-Trump. You don't think Trump doesn't know that whenever he speaks it is news, and seen by not just those in attendance? When people bash him for things that are reasonable, those people lose credibility themselves, and actually make Trump look more sympathetic.
Disagree in this particular instance. Any other President (of either party), if that had been their rally, would have said something like... "I urge the people of Alabama to vote for Roy Moore on Tuesday".
I find this faux pas incredibly hilarious given Trump's unproven claim of illegals stuffing the ballot boxes .... he has essentially urged the people of Florida, who can't vote, to go vote in Alabama.
Quote: rsactuary
I encourage you to take a stand for our core principles and for what is right. These critical times require us to come together to reject bigotry, sexism, and intolerance.
And this is the problem. A conservative Alabaman has no option presented to him that allows such. The Democrat running, on the issues important to the conservative Alabaman, stands against him. The Republican running is Roy Moore, who on the issues he will be voting on in the Senate stands with the conservative Alabaman.
If this doesn't remind you of our Presidential election nothing will. This is the problem when you are presented with two wholly unacceptable choices but the real world means those are your only choices.
Quote: rsactuary
I find this faux pas incredibly hilarious given Trump's unproven claim of illegals stuffing the ballot boxes .... he has essentially urged the people of Florida, who can't vote, to go vote in Alabama.
I'm calling BS on you! I don't believe that you really believe Trump is really telling, and expecting, or hoping, that the Floridians in his audience will storm Alabama and vote! We can agree to disagree, but this is just a clear example of someone looking to bash Trump, and not letting the fact that he did nothing wrong get in the way of such.
Of course this guy sees this as a bad thing, but nice to see a far left kook admit it. Trump is Winning and so is the quality of life for the average American.
Quote: SOOPOOI'm calling BS on you! I don't believe that you really believe Trump is really telling, and expecting, or hoping, that the Floridians in his audience will storm Alabama and vote! We can agree to disagree, but this is just a clear example of someone looking to bash Trump, and not letting the fact that he did nothing wrong get in the way of such.
Words matter... and any other president knows how to choose their words wisely. This one doesn't.
Just for the record.. I hope Roy Moore wins!
Roy Moore, by his own words, literally hates America and everything America stands for.
And people are going to vote for him.
Quote: TigerWuRoy Moore has publicly praised Vladimir Putin and said that America is one of the most evil countries in the modern world. He doesn't believe evolution, thinks homosexuality should be illegal, and wants to gut the Constitution. He said America deserved the 9/11 terror attacks and school shootings because we have "taken God out of everything."
Roy Moore, by his own words, literally hates America and everything America stands for.
And people are going to vote for him.
These religious nutcases should be locked away in an insane asylum!
Quote: IbeatyouracesThese religious nutcases should be locked away in an insane asylum!
All this Sharia law being pushed on Americans is complete BS
But
Roy Moore pushing his religious law on America is very real and scary
All these women coming out accusing Trump of sexual harassment
It just sickens me
Trump is right up there with that sicko Bill Clinton
Both are sickos
Quote: Bozhttps://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sadly-trump-is-winning_us_5a2b1110e4b022ec613b823f
Of course this guy sees this as a bad thing, but nice to see a far left kook admit it. Trump is Winning and so is the quality of life for the average American.
The quality of life for the average American? Just who are these average Americans you speak of? Did you even read the headline you cited? Did you even read the article you cited? Where has the quality of life for the average American improved under Trump that wasn't already trending upwards before? He has done NOTHING to improve the lives of average Americans.
Stock market? Do you really think "average Americans" know how to take advantage of a bull market? A market, by the way, that is 112 months old (Trump "owns" 10 of them, and that's being generous).
I want to see Republicans and Trump supporters start decrying the 62.7% labor participation rate we saw in the November jobs report. That was a major talking point just a year ago. You remember a year ago? When the SAME EXACT economy we have now was being labeled a disaster? Go back and look at Trump's rallies.
Did he EVER have anything nice to say about America? Ever?
Trump is a disgrace to the office of the Presidency and anybody still supporting this POS ought to be ashamed of themselves.
He even slut-shamed Gillibrand today. F**king disgraceful.
Quote: terapinedAll this Sharia law being pushed on Americans is complete BS
But
Roy Moore pushing his religious law on America is very real and scary
Hah, seriously... People like Roy Moore and his ilk are far more dangerous to this country than some half-ass ISIS wannabe fanboy with the keys to a rental van or a half-pound of black powder strapped to his waist.
Quote: BozAnd yet everyone of the liberals on here complaining about Roy would never vote for any Republican over a Dem. So while complaining about Moore, the end result is no different than any other election, you hate all GOP candidates.
In our heavily divided country, all things being equal, sure, you're right. But pedophilia kinda tilts things...for most people.
Quote: SteverinosIn our heavily divided country, all things being equal, sure, you're right. But pedophilia kinda tilts things...for most people.
We will all know in a few hours.
Quote: BozAnd yet everyone of the liberals on here complaining about Roy would never vote for any Republican over a Dem. .
I never voted for that sexual harasser sicko Bill Clinton
I voted for Bob Dole
No way would I ever vote for sickos such as Roy Moore or Trump
Quote: BozAnd yet everyone of the liberals on here complaining about Roy would never vote for any Republican over a Dem. So while complaining about Moore, the end result is no different than any other election, you hate all GOP candidates.
This is a false equivalence.
The Dems didn't nominate the self proclaimed "pussy grabber" or the alleged child molester, the GOP did. The Dems would immediately distance themselves and call for them to drop out if they were in that position. The GOP acts embarrassed for a week or two, but then goes back to fully supporting the creeps.
Quote: BozAnd yet everyone of the liberals on here complaining about Roy would never vote for any Republican over a Dem.
Oh, hogwash.
Quote: BozAnd yet everyone of the liberals on here complaining about Roy would never vote for any Republican over a Dem. So while complaining about Moore, the end result is no different than any other election, you hate all GOP candidates.
I cant speak for all dems but generally that's not true. NJ voted in a chris christie a republican governor. NYC voted in both guiliani and Bloomberg as republican mayors
These are just a few examples of dems voting for who is the best candidate versus party affiliation
Quote: BozAnd yet everyone of the liberals on here complaining about Roy would never vote for any Republican over a Dem. So while complaining about Moore, the end result is no different than any other election, you hate all GOP candidates.
Sure would, and have.