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September 12th, 2017 at 6:30:28 PM permalink
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"Individuals all over America experience inequality...some of us are born smart, some of us are born protesters." -Ben Shapiro
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September 12th, 2017 at 8:12:16 PM permalink
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There's nothing wrong with watching porn, but when it's Ted Cruz.... it's just funny.


The only thing that I'm surprised about is that it wasn't ultra hardcore gay bear fisting porn.



What kind of bear would do that? Those claws...

WARNING. Keep your comments PG. you're "bearly" within, probably over, but benefit of the doubt.


I apologize, and would appreciate if all future reprimands included puns. I honestly thought the rule was PG13.

I'll use PG visual aids next time, like this one....

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September 13th, 2017 at 3:00:18 AM permalink
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Never seen or talked with Trump in person, so I don't know. But given by the way his campaign rallies went, this sounds like a fair statement to say.



Met him once. We own an apartment in a Trump building here in NYC, and except for last year, he’s allowed us to use the board room in Trump Tower for our annual owners meetings. Greeted us with “Good looking crowd.”, and genuinely wanted to know whether we were happy. Then he left us to our meeting.

I pay the Trump organization to maintain that property, so it’s fair to say he worked for me before he became President.
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September 13th, 2017 at 8:05:02 AM permalink
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...

Did I use a semi-colon in the last sentence properly?

Surprisingly, yes, you did use it correctly. =)
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September 13th, 2017 at 12:03:35 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Are we reading the same post? Quote of 777's post with italics and bold added for bad and worse insults, put in spoiler due to toxicity.


Quote: 777

I see two categories of Trumper/GOPer in this thread: a prominently displayed Trumper/GOPer and the other is a deceitfully Trumper/GOPer pretending to be "fair & balance", and/or pretending to be non-Trumper/GOPer. For example, MaxPen, Boz, RS, and many others prominently and proudly display their Trumper/GOPer bages, and thus there is no need to waste www bandwidth to expose their deceitfulness. But you, on the other hand, is a deceptive Trump/GOP operative who is pretending to be "fair & balance" and consequently your intellectual dishonesty should be exposed for all to see.

You often selfishly and irresponsibly blame the dysfunction of congress on the democrats. But the truth is your selfish and irresponsible attitude, coupled with the abusing of gerrymandering, is the main culprit for the dysfunctional government we are witnessing today. Stop blaming others due to your own selfish and irresponsible behavior. It's time for you to look at yourself in the mirror and to stop blaming others for your own selfish, irresponsible and foolish behaviors.

You often use the excuse that Hillary or other democrats can't get things done to give an impression that you are “fair & balance”, and to use as an excuse for your opposition. The truth is you will not vote for Hillary, Schumer, Cuomo or other democrats because their policy and ideology on health care for all citizen can harm or potentially harm your income generating ability; or simply because you do not like their policy and ideology on other social, economic, and moral issues. There is nothing wrong with opposing viewpoints; after all we are a democracy (or a republic if you want to debate/revisit this topic again). But what’s wrong is your dishonesty, your deceptive behavior in pretending or claiming to be “fair & balance”. Fox news can be a propaganda mouth piece for Trump and the GOP, but it can’t claim to be "fair & balance” just as you are pretending to be.

I have no issue with you opposing Clinton, Schumer, Cuomo or the entire Democratic Party. The issue I am having with you is that you deceitfully, selfishly and irresponsibly blaming the Democrat for the so called their inability to work with GOP/Republican congress. What is the incentive for the GOP to reach out to and to cooperate with the democrats when they are assured that through gerrymandering and/or your selfish, irresponsible and foolish attitudes that they still get support either through a direct support by direct voting for the GOP, or an indirect support by non-voting for the democrats? Your selfish, irresponsible, and foolish behaviors are the fuel that encourages the GOP to obstruct and sabotage various legislations and political agendas that include the ACA and the nomination of Merrick Garland to the SCOTUS. Please don't use the excuse that “the other side did it too", but instead look at yourself in the mirror -- you are the main reasons for the dysfunction of congress. How dare you blaming Clinton, Schumer, Cuomo and other democrats for your own selfish, irresponsible, dishonest and foolish behaviors?

As I had stated earlier, I have no issue with your oppositions to the Democratic Party, but I have issue with you rewarding the GOP for bad behaviors and then immediately turn around blaming the democrats for your own selfish, irresponsible and foolish attitudes.

Do you reward your children for their bad behaviors? Would you be “hotly” rewarded by your hot girlfriend if you behave badly? And if your answers to these questions are no, then please stop stop rewarding the racist, sexist, rapist, scam artist, con man Trump and the GOP for their bad behaviors, and stop blaming Hillary, Schumer, Cuomo and other democrats for “can’t get anything done.”

It is my impression that your strong hatred on Hillary, Schumer, Cuomo and the democrats is due the fact that the democrat philosophy on healthcare issue would adversely impact for income potential.
I understand perfectly that you have every right to oppose them, and it would be a waste of my time to persuade you to change your behaviors. But one thing I want you to know is this: Hillary, Schumer, Cuomo and the democrats deeply care about affordable health care for all, and who knows – someday you may depend on ACA for cancer treatments, VD or other STD (I mentioned this because you once told the WoV audiences that your girlfriend is hot) treatments, or any other healthcare treatments.


I was going to report the post to an admin (my apologies for not doing so). But I figured Mike/Babs/Mission's inboxes would be getting filled up with this post. By the time I go to reading the post, it was already on page n-2 or n-3 (n=last).



Thanks, RS. My time is limited right now due to no.power from Irma, but yes, the bolded parts were what I was objecting to, and i appreciate you hepping others see them. And yes, 777 was Martingaled for repeated offenses and body of work within the last year. At least 2 previous, very similar attacks, at least one of those on Soopoo. Not his first rodeo, even within this thread.

Ibya, I realized a couple years back you were never going to be president of my fan club. Duly noted.

OnceDear, you're welcome to disagree, but I didn't like the (presumably mistaken ) attacks on you either, and suspended both of those guys. In this case, 777 has been repeatedly rude and insulting, and doesn't seem to be able.to confine his epithets to public figures, so he needed a timeout. All imo, and hearing appeals is fine, but so far no one has made a convincing case for leniency.
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September 13th, 2017 at 1:45:40 PM permalink
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OnceDear, you're welcome to disagree, but I didn't like the (presumably mistaken ) attacks on you either, and suspended both of those guys. In this case, 777 has been repeatedly rude and insulting, and doesn't seem to be able.to confine his epithets to public figures, so he needed a timeout. All imo, and hearing appeals is fine, but so far no one has made a convincing case for leniency.

I thank you for that and respect and accept your judgement in all decisions. I only mildly disagree in your ruling on 777, because he clearly used careful phrasing to avoid downright snapping of the rules. He was carefully rude. $:o)
On the topic of those other bans. We haven't heard the last of that author ST and what are surely his sock puppets and proxies.
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September 13th, 2017 at 4:58:48 PM permalink
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Quote: RS

...

Did I use a semi-colon in the last sentence properly?

Surprisingly, yes, you did use it correctly. =)


I try to use a semi-colon correctly once a year or two....gotta keep the brain sharp!

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On the topic of those other bans. We haven't heard the last of that author ST and what are surely his sock puppets and proxies.


Who or what is "author ST"?
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September 13th, 2017 at 6:56:03 PM permalink
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Who or what is "author ST"?



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September 14th, 2017 at 2:04:41 AM permalink
Quote: RS

Who or what is "author ST"?


An author of a Bacc system book. He or his proxies invaded this thread and got suspended.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/29314-baccarat-is-a-riddle-wrapped-in-a-mystery-inside-an-enigma/3/
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September 14th, 2017 at 4:44:29 AM permalink
I must give credit where credit is due. It sounds like Donald (lifelong Dem until a couple years ago) is reverting to his roots:



Ann Coulter tweeted that she wants Donald impeached.

Wouldn't it be funny if his first major legislative accomplishment (it's Sept. and he still hasn't had one) was making DACA law of the land??
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September 14th, 2017 at 5:46:10 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

I must give credit where credit is due. It sounds like Donald (lifelong Dem until a couple years ago) is reverting to his roots:

Ann Coulter tweeted that she wants Donald impeached.

Wouldn't it be funny if his first major legislative accomplishment (it's Sept. and he still hasn't had one) was making DACA law of the land??


Not so fast - now he's denying any "deal," and certainly any deal that doesn't mention The Wall.
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September 14th, 2017 at 9:12:46 AM permalink
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Not so fast - now he's denying any "deal," and certainly any deal that doesn't mention The Wall.



I think President Donald is realizing that dealing with the Democrats is the only way he can get the compassionate items on his agenda done. Don't kid yourself though -- Donald is dealing with the Dems. He dealt with them last week.

And getting some kind of bipartisan support is actually awesome for the nation. Ryan and Mitch's party are divided between conservatism and the tea party which makes it impossible to get any dealing done. The tea party is stuck promoting ideas that only a minority of constituents actually hold. This leaves Trump to grab the Democrats to get deals that are in the middle, such as DACA and the hurricane spending bills passed.

Donald Trump, believe me, is a populist. He is, by all indications, a narcissist, who wants to, needs to, has to be loved. With Bannon and most of his initial hirings gone, he is out of the ultra-right bubble.

Even if it means dealing with Nancy and Chuck.
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September 14th, 2017 at 10:55:11 AM permalink


Hopefully nobody teaches Donald what "amnesty" is anytime soon...
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September 14th, 2017 at 11:09:46 AM permalink
I disagree that these people should get citizenship. They should likely get green cards for life until they qualify for citizenship under other Green Card categories.
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September 14th, 2017 at 1:39:01 PM permalink
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I disagree that these people should get citizenship. They should likely get green cards for life until they qualify for citizenship under other Green Card categories.



Once they are identified, they can go to the end of the proverbial line as far as I'm concerned. No reason to deport them though.
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September 14th, 2017 at 2:17:58 PM permalink
I would assume that once they were granted Green Cards, they would go through the same process as the rest.
I have a friend who is Iranian, or as he says Persian. He came to America with his family on vacation at age four and the parents decided to stay, giving up everything they had back there. He is registered with DACA, and his fear is if he gets deported, he will be forced to do a military obligation in Iran. He's Jewish so he can always go to Israel, but America is the only home he knows.
He graduated UNLV, works at Wells Fargo and is studying in a graduate program. His father was a doctor in Iran and is a silent partner in a used car dealership here, as he can't legally work. They applied for religious refugee status years ago, and every eighteen months, they have a hearing where the can gets kicked down the road.
Voluntarily forcing these people to leave our country is fugged. Most of these people are the living embodiment of The American Dream.
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I think trump is only flirting with the Democrats in order to get the Republicans in line.
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September 14th, 2017 at 3:09:10 PM permalink
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I think trump is only flirting with the Democrats in order to get the Republicans in line.

I doubt it's that. He has no loyalty or interest in any party. If he can claim one 'deal', even if it's with the Dems, then he can claim success and adulation, from his core. He's using this idea of dealing with the Dems, while it suits his one purpose, and they are dealing with him while they think it suits theirs. They are making deals with the devil. I hope they are as clever as they think they are.

Meanwhile, that wonderful distraction, provided by nature, has temporarily got trump/Russia out of the headlines. So he maybe hasn't felt the need to blow up NK as a distraction. Those hurricanes may have saved millions of lives for a while. But now the news is turning back to Russia/trump and we now have massive military 'exercises' in Eastern Europe. Plenty of scope for the shit to hit the fan again on the international stage.
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September 14th, 2017 at 3:12:45 PM permalink
Anyone taking bets on if/when trump will declare a pardon for Flynn?
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September 14th, 2017 at 3:57:03 PM permalink
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I doubt it's that. He has no loyalty or interest in any party. If he can claim one 'deal', even if it's with the Dems, then he can claim success and adulation, from his core. He's using this idea of dealing with the Dems, while it suits his one purpose, and they are dealing with him while they think it suits theirs. They are making deals with the devil. I hope they are as clever as they think they are.

Meanwhile, that wonderful distraction, provided by nature, has temporarily got trump/Russia out of the headlines. So he maybe hasn't felt the need to blow up NK as a distraction. Those hurricanes may have saved millions of lives for a while. But now the news is turning back to Russia/trump and we now have massive military 'exercises' in Eastern Europe. Plenty of scope for the shit to hit the fan again on the international stage.



That's okay. Jose might take aim at the eastern seaboard next week... only time will tell, will likely know for sure on Sunday.

Meanwhile DPRK has just launched another missile over Japan again. Only China and South Korea will reign them in. China is probably selling oil to the North via a black market to get around sanctions. China and Russia don't have real interest in stability but everyone is playing a very tight rope here. All it takes is a botched missile launch landing on/near Japanese soil for all hell to break loose, or the accidental sinking of a ship. This is too tight.

And the Russia / Trump investigation plays out in the background.

And for some stupid reason Trump brought up Charlottesville again.

He can't help himself.
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September 14th, 2017 at 6:41:19 PM permalink
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Anyone taking bets on if/when trump will declare a pardon for Flynn?



I don't know, but he sure is likely #1 in the "guilty as Hell" category.
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September 23rd, 2017 at 2:23:25 AM permalink
i'm no fan of kim jong un or north korea but he called trump a "DOTARD" and people including me are finding it hilarious. the internet is loving it.

here it is: twitter@ #Dotard Trump. enjoy:



https://twitter.com/hashtag/DotardTrump?src=hash
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September 23rd, 2017 at 9:25:43 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

i'm no fan of kim jong un or north korea but he called trump a "DOTARD" and people including me are finding it hilarious. the internet is loving it.

here it is: twitter@ #Dotard Trump. enjoy:



https://twitter.com/hashtag/DotardTrump?src=hash



I'm not quite getting this. Did he say this in English or was it translated as such?
Trump went very hard after the NFL yesterday, picking a fight where none was needed. I'm sure Goober Six Pack loves it.
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September 23rd, 2017 at 10:24:45 AM permalink
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I'm not quite getting this. Did he say this in English or was it translated as such?



"Kim, of course, did not say the word -- he was speaking in Korean. "Dotard" was the official English translation provided by state news agency KCNA for the Korean ("neulg-dali-michigwang-i"), or (neukdari) which literally translates as "old lunatic.""

KCNA = Korean Central News Agency for the DPRK or Democratic People's Republic of Korea; which is the entity we in the U.S. call North Korea.
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September 23rd, 2017 at 4:52:22 PM permalink
It's been an entertaining day on Twitter.

Donald's dumb comments have somehow managed to unite Cavs and Warriors fans.
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September 23rd, 2017 at 5:41:23 PM permalink
It will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow. I'm guessing more players take a knee.
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September 23rd, 2017 at 6:39:59 PM permalink
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It will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow. I'm guessing more players take a knee.



Regardless of which side you are on, the big losers are going to be the NFL owners who can't win either way.

First thing that came to mind

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y2RKmVqnNdw
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September 23rd, 2017 at 8:17:58 PM permalink
Anytime you stand up to a bully, you've already won, regardless of the end results.
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September 23rd, 2017 at 11:17:35 PM permalink
What's going on with the Cavs and Warriors and/or Trump? I don't even know what I'd google search to find an article and whatnot about it.
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September 24th, 2017 at 6:52:45 AM permalink
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What's going on with the Cavs and Warriors and/or Trump? I don't even know what I'd google search to find an article and whatnot about it.



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-withdraws-invitation-white-house-after-stephen-curry-suggests-he-n804136
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September 24th, 2017 at 7:54:26 AM permalink
In the end the players will be the biggest losers with the owners slightly behind. And of course Roger who will be paid to leave after the season, if not sooner.

Not sure what the owners can do differently but this will affect ratings and revenue. They are already looking at a potential $200M rebate to the networks if ratings stay at the current reduced levels. These owners didn't get to where there are in life by losing money so it's going to come from reduced expenses, I.E. player expenses. So they can forget about more guaranteed contracts and other pipe dreams they expect in the next collective bargaining agreement.

But they sure showed Trump who is boss! While alienating at worst 30% of the fan base who will back Trump. And to think it all started with a false narrative about an innocent gentle giant who was shot by a bad policeman with his hands up saying "Don't shoot".
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September 24th, 2017 at 9:27:39 AM permalink
What a waste it is to lose ones mind. Not having a brain is very wasteful.
Dan Quayle

Trump has tried, for years, to buy an NFL team, but the owners don't want anything to do with him. Now he tries to get revenge on them. What a petty, little man. And the goobers eat it up.
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September 24th, 2017 at 9:48:13 AM permalink
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What a waste it is to lose ones mind. Not having a brain is very wasteful.
Dan Quayle

Trump has tried, for years, to buy an NFL team, but the owners don't want anything to do with him. Now he tries to get revenge on them. What a petty, little man. And the goobers eat it up.
" He only says what I'd think, if I had half his brain"



You always said he isn't a good business man. In this case it's not him but the NFL owners who are going to lose billions in value when this done. No way this ends well for anyone and certainly not with a stronger NFL with more valuable franchises.

So you are right, Trump caused a business to lose billions just by speaking the thoughts of a sizable minority of the American public. Long live Twitter, the voice for those the media oppresses.
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September 24th, 2017 at 9:53:39 AM permalink
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In the end the players will be the biggest losers with the owners slightly behind. And of course Roger who will be paid to leave after the season, if not sooner.


You are looking at the small picture. You don't get it.
Its not about their contracts. Most wont be in the NFL in 5 years. Its about the much bigger picture of how they believe racism still exists and in some ways encouraged by the President.

Stevie Wonder took a knee last night
You go Stevie

I wonder how many NFL players take a knee this afternoon. I have to imagine hundreds
Talk about a decisive President uninterested in trying to unite this country
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September 24th, 2017 at 10:02:51 AM permalink
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unite this country


The United States of America is an oxymoron. There is nothing "united" about this place.
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September 24th, 2017 at 10:21:27 AM permalink
I'm scheduled to be in Vegas for the Super Bowl in Feb, hopefully the NFL still exists by then!!! /sarcasm
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September 24th, 2017 at 10:23:24 AM permalink
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The United States of America is an oxymoron. There is nothing "united" about this place.



This is due to the career politicians
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September 24th, 2017 at 10:50:40 AM permalink
So the Divider in Chief picks a target and you think he costs the NFL billions? Based on what? Your gut instincts?
Even worse, you seem to think it's a good thing.
Seems like PT is still correct, one hundred years later.
We might even be in W.C. Fields territory.
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September 24th, 2017 at 11:17:29 AM permalink
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Quote: Ibeatyouraces

The United States of America is an oxymoron. There is nothing "united" about this place.



This is due to the career politicians


You vote for them! I've never voted and never will.
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September 24th, 2017 at 11:22:40 AM permalink
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Quote: Homelessnyc

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

The United States of America is an oxymoron. There is nothing "united" about this place.



This is due to the career politicians


You vote for them! I've never voted and never will.



Voting for the lesser of two evils vs doing nothing at all...
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September 24th, 2017 at 11:25:42 AM permalink
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Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Quote: Homelessnyc

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

The United States of America is an oxymoron. There is nothing "united" about this place.



This is due to the career politicians


You vote for them! I've never voted and never will.



Voting for the lesser of two evils vs doing nothing at all...


Exactly. Don't support evil at all!
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September 24th, 2017 at 11:37:17 AM permalink
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Exactly. Don't support evil at all!



That's not how it works.
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September 24th, 2017 at 11:38:44 AM permalink
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That's not how it works.


Because you've been suckered into believing it.

No different than the billions suckered into believing in a religion.
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September 24th, 2017 at 12:07:00 PM permalink
People who don't participate in the political process really shouldn't complain about it. If some posters didn't complain about anything and everything, I suppose even they couldn't justify their continued existence, hollow as it be.
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September 24th, 2017 at 12:18:24 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

People who don't participate in the political process really shouldn't complain about it. If some posters didn't complain about anything and everything, I suppose even they couldn't justify their continued existence, hollow as it be.


For the record, I'm not complaining about it. In fact, I find it kind of comical.
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September 24th, 2017 at 12:27:13 PM permalink
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So the Divider in Chief picks a target and you think he costs the NFL billions? Based on what? Your gut instincts?
Even worse, you seem to think it's a good thing.
Seems like PT is still correct, one hundred years later.
We might even be in W.C. Fields territory.



If you think this good for business you would have to be an idiot. And we both know your not an idiot when it comes to understanding how to build and grow a business. If alienating even 10% of customers makes financial sense everyone would do it. The NFL can't win here, spinning it any other way is comical.
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September 24th, 2017 at 12:32:16 PM permalink
Difficult to win when you're being targeted by the president. Seems pretty anti republican, big government for the president to be consistently trying to meddle in the employment decisions of businesses.
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September 24th, 2017 at 12:33:01 PM permalink
I'll say this again, the national anthem has no business in sports and should be removed from these games.
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September 24th, 2017 at 12:33:27 PM permalink
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You are looking at the small picture. You don't get it.
Its not about their contracts. Most wont be in the NFL in 5 years. Its about the much bigger picture of how they believe racism still exists and in some ways encouraged by the President.

Stevie Wonder took a knee last night
You go Stevie

I wonder how many NFL players take a knee this afternoon. I have to imagine hundreds
Talk about a decisive President uninterested in trying to unite this country



And if you really think the majority of these guys are thinking about the players down the road you don't get. In every new CBA they turn down long term gains for more immediate ones. Do the research on their contracts. It's why they have fired players union staff in the past.

Hell I would bet over 1/2 those kneeling today still think Michael Brown was shot with his hands up saying don't shoot. And many like their hero Kap didn't even bother to vote.
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