Let them cling to their beliefs.
That's a Really Stupid comparison (-;Quote: RSIf it wasn’t for them pushing sales on their DEATH MACHINES I don’t think that accident ever would have happened. They’re responsible for thousands and thousands of deaths every year and they’re still allowed to manufacture and sell these metal death traps? When will people figure it out? TOYOTA IS KILLING US!!!!
Automobiles are not designed for killing. In this day and age, they are almost a necessity. The benefits far outweigh the risks.
Quote: SteverinosCracks me up to hear this stupid argument about cars. Cars have a purpose OTHER than klling. It's to get you from point A to B. And, we are actually allowed to study auto fatality rates and use data to make adjustments to the safety of automobiles. Seatbelts, airbags, better design of our roads, etc.
And most all guns will never be used to kill a person. They have other uses as well (hunting, target shooting, self-defense,)
Why do you hate logic and information so much?
Why did you not want a tax cut?
Quote: AxelWolfThat's a Really Stupid comparison (-;
Made to show the absurdity that the NRA has any blame in gun violence.
Never heard of the word reavers.Quote: billryanSome folks here would argue that guns are a necessity. Seems like the only thing keeping the reavers at bay is that banana clipped AK they keep under the pillow.
Quote: billryanSome folks here would argue that guns are a necessity. Seems like the only thing keeping the reavers at bay is that banana clipped AK they keep under the pillow.
Look at the history of how our government has treated unarmed people, Indians to militilarized cops today,
Quote: AZDuffmanLook at the history of how our government has treated unarmed people, Indians to militilarized cops today,
The Indians were unarmed? Somebody ought to let Custer know.
I must have slept through the classes where the massacres of unarmed US citizens were covered. Could you refresh my recollections?
Quote: billryanThe Indians were unarmed? Somebody ought to let Custer know.
Maybe you should have stayed for the part about what happened after they laid down their arms. Corralled onto reservations and, well, you can look up the rest.
Quote:I must have slept through the classes where the massacres of unarmed US citizens were covered. Could you refresh my recollections?
Like I said, check out how the local cops now look more like a military unit.
Or you can take the blue pill and keep saying it can't happen in the USA.
Quote: AZDuffmanOr you can take the blue pill and keep saying it can't happen in the USA.
It isn't your guns in an armed standoff with the US government that keeps them from turning your refuge into a smoking hole where you once were.
Get real.
The Indians would have a chance with all similar weapons though back in the day.
Never said they did. Thanks for just making up blanket statements to imply I said something I didn't though.Quote: AZDuffmanThe NRA does not manufacture or sell guns.
Wow, I can't believe you'd say the NRA manufactures guns AND promotes gun violence! Thanks!
Sure, and they can have 'majority' sharehold of the blame, but that doesn't mean they have 100% of the blame. If you hand Kim Jung-Un a button to activate a nuke in DC, and he uses it... are you saying you're ZERO PERCENT to blame since his actions are solely on him??? Let's say you didn't even manufacture the button, just pushed legislation to give every head of a country their own nuke cuz nukes are cool and a 'right'... Then are you to blame at all? Do you see how unbelievable wrong you are? Like, not even a contest, not trying to 'prove' anything just flat out black and white wrong?Quote: AZDuffman...Don't you believe people are responsible for their own actions?
Oh, I know you won't... that's the amusing yet very very sad part. Facts and logic out the window GUNS GUNS GUNS BABY. lol this country is so F'd. Idiocracy here we come!
Quote: billryanThe Indians were unarmed? Somebody ought to let Custer know.
I must have slept through the classes where the massacres of unarmed US citizens were covered. Could you refresh my recollections?
The Founders were smart enough to draft the 2nd amendment so we don't have to find out what government would do if we weren't armed.
Quote: MaxPenThe Founders were smart enough to draft the 2nd amendment so we don't have to find out what government would do if we weren't armed.
Apparently you've never heard of the Whiskey or Shay's Rebellion. In both instances, the Founding Fathers used the 2A in the exact OPPOSITE way in which you think it was intended.
What do you think would ACTUALLY HAPPEN if no normal citizens in the US had guns??? Would the police start beating/shooting people at random because they could? Would trump deploy the military to start putting us in camps? Do you think Trump would use the army to enslave citizens? WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN?
Quote: AxelWolfThat's a Really Stupid comparison (-;
Automobiles are not designed for killing. In this day and age, they are almost a necessity. The benefits far outweigh the risks.
People were saying the NRA is (partially) to blame for the shootings and whatnot. I guess I should’ve “blamed” the Toyota dealerships and not Toyota directly.
You can’t objectively say the benefits outweigh the risks. Or else I can say the same thing and say that the benefits outweigh the risks for having guns.
Quote: RomesHere's a fun question... to all the conservatives, righties, gun enthusiasts, whatever you wanna call yourselves...
What do you think would ACTUALLY HAPPEN if no normal citizens in the US had guns??? Would the police start beating/shooting people at random because they could? Would trump deploy the military to start putting us in camps? Do you think Trump would use the army to enslave citizens? WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN?
Romes, do you mean no guns at all (e.g. no handguns or shotguns)?
Not with a straight face.Quote: RS
You can’t objectively say the benefits outweigh the risks. Or else I can say the same thing and say that the benefits outweigh the risks for having guns.
Quote: ParadigmRomes, do you mean no guns at all (e.g. no handguns or shotguns)?
You can defend yourself against anything you need to with mma training and skill, in my opinion.
Quote: mcallister3200You can defend yourself against anything you need to with mma training and skill, in my opinion.
I chose the law of the land over your "opinion"...trust me you don't want my personal opinions running your life either. That's the beauty of this country, we have laws and courts so that folks that think their opinions are worth anything more than interesting input are put in there place when it comes to actually impacting the lives of others. Come back with some content worthwhile...seriously Axel, a thank you for that garbage?
And you could have a very legitimate debate over what the Heller case did or didn't guarantee. That case was about handguns in the home. Liberals are talking about using some common sense and restricting the sales of weapons of war to teenagers. We aren't talking about taking away all guns. Nobody is. If you listened to Trump the other day, you would've thought he was a liberal on this issue. To be fair, he's been a New York liberal his entire life (basically representing everything the GOP isn't). It wasn't until he sold his soul to the far right of the GOP base (Mitt Romney anybody?) that he's changed his tune on most if not all of these issues.
Quote: ams288Why hasn't there been a discussion about his comments yesterday? He said he would like to take peoples' guns before due process. If Obama said that, all the righties heads would have literally exploded.
Does nobody care because everyone, left and right, knows he is a moron has no idea what he's talking about? (Hint: yes).
I had such a long, beautifully written reply to this.
Wiped it out somehow while editing.
Arggh.
Wasn't meant to be, I guess.
Oh, yeah. Trump has posted one too many meaningless, contradictory tweets, made one too many sudden pronouncements with nothing behind it; what's to discuss if it's going to be retracted/backed out of/contradicted /forgotten by tomorrow, next week at most?
Unfortunately, the stock market still believes him. He tanked the entire 2018 gains in less than 2 days with his stupid tariffs. So there's that.
I think you might have missed the joke. I think it was meant to be a dig on roams, since well, you know, he's an mma fighter and all. I see that RS gave it a thank you as well. I assume that is why he gave it a thank you as well since he's all for more guns or whatever.Quote: ParadigmCome back with some content worthwhile...seriously Axel, a thank you for that garbage?
Quote: gamerfreakWhat have you been doing for a year in Vegas if you’ve only worked 200 hours?
Lol I meant to put this in the ZK thread
Quote: gamerfreakEdit: WTF the forum is broken
In the very early days of personal computers, they (the help desks of various PC companies) used to call this problem a pebcak. I don't think the term ever caught on.
Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard.
:)
I could be wrong.
Quote: beachbumbabsIn the very early days of personal computers, they (the help desks of various PC companies) used to call this problem a pebcak. I don't think the term ever caught on.
Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard.
:)
I could be wrong.
Not really any more because Tech Desk these days has total access to your computer
I work from home
If I have a computer issue
I contact the tech desk
They contact me, I authorize them to go into my computer remotely
They do what they have to manipulating files while I watch sipping my coffee :-)
Quote: RSI’d say 99.58% chance that post by Mcallister was a dig on Romes AKA a joke.
I took it as a personal insult and demand an appropriate punishment be inflicted. Maybe even an inappropriate one.
Quote: beachbumbabsProblem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard.
:)
I could be wrong.
lol I say the same thing all the time
I think you’re right, except between chair and phone. It’s eady to tap the wrong thread on the most recent list on a touchscreen. I think I did that x2
Should be easy to get a Trump supporter suspended around here.Quote: billryanI took it as a personal insult and demand an appropriate punishment be inflicted. Maybe even an inappropriate one.
Quote: ams288Those of us who don't drink the Orange Kool-Aid knew this was a fake "John Barron"-planted story. But for those naive enough to think otherwise:
Witness deflates Trump's claim that he stopped bat beating in 1991: 'He came at the tail end of the event'
When YOUR PRESIDENT wants something done, even in 1991, it gets done. And when YOUR PRESIDENT doesn't have to coddle politicians He gets it done fast.
Of course He came at the tail end of the event. How else would one think it ended?
YOUR PRESIDENT said to stop the beating, the beating stopped, and the "event" ended.
Quote: Maverick17Quote: ams288Those of us who don't drink the Orange Kool-Aid knew this was a fake "John Barron"-planted story. But for those naive enough to think otherwise:
Witness deflates Trump's claim that he stopped bat beating in 1991: 'He came at the tail end of the event'
When YOUR PRESIDENT wants something done, even in 1991, it gets done. And when YOUR PRESIDENT doesn't have to coddle politicians He gets it done fast.
Of course He came at the tail end of the event. How else would one think it ended?
YOUR PRESIDENT said to stop the beating, the beating stopped, and the "event" ended.
Is English your first language?
I'm just wondering because you're confusing "your" with "my", there.
Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: Maverick17Quote: ams288Those of us who don't drink the Orange Kool-Aid knew this was a fake "John Barron"-planted story. But for those naive enough to think otherwise:
Witness deflates Trump's claim that he stopped bat beating in 1991: 'He came at the tail end of the event'
When YOUR PRESIDENT wants something done, even in 1991, it gets done. And when YOUR PRESIDENT doesn't have to coddle politicians He gets it done fast.
Of course He came at the tail end of the event. How else would one think it ended?
YOUR PRESIDENT said to stop the beating, the beating stopped, and the "event" ended.
Is English your first language?
I'm just wondering because you're confusing "your" with "my", there.
Never questioned all the stupid hippies who cried “not my president”....
Quote: RSNever questioned all the stupid hippies who cried “not my president”....
I never thought of Trump as a hippie, though he did question the legitimacy of President Obama with his birther support.
Really not all that surprising that no one answered my question... really not. Thanks for letting me know all I need to know =).Quote: RomesHere's a fun question... to all the conservatives, righties, gun enthusiasts, whatever you wanna call yourselves...
What do you think would ACTUALLY HAPPEN if no normal citizens in the US had guns??? Would the police start beating/shooting people at random because they could? Would trump deploy the military to start putting us in camps? Do you think Trump would use the army to enslave citizens? WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN?
Eh, if the mcallister thing was a dig, I don't really care. At least put some thought in to it and make it clever or funny though?
Quote: RoamsReally not all that surprising that no one answered my question... really not. Thanks for letting me know all I need to know =).
I don’t think any of those things would happen, at least not in the extreme sense.
Then again, lots of people complaining and thinking Trump’s gonna export all the Muslims and Mexicans. How ironic would that be? All guns get banned then all the Mexicans, Muslims, and blacks get sent out of the country.
Also the what do you think if no normal citizens had guns thing kinda goes against the whole “NO ONE wants all guns banned” mantra.
Quote: RoamsEh, if the mcallister thing was a dig, I don't really care. At least put some thought in to it and make it clever or funny though?
I thought it was pretty damn funny. First I thought you wrote it (which made me sad at first) then when I realized it was written by someone else that it was a joke and actually funny. It’s okay, some people don’t have a sense of humor. :)
Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: Maverick17Quote: ams288Those of us who don't drink the Orange Kool-Aid knew this was a fake "John Barron"-planted story. But for those naive enough to think otherwise:
Witness deflates Trump's claim that he stopped bat beating in 1991: 'He came at the tail end of the event'
When YOUR PRESIDENT wants something done, even in 1991, it gets done. And when YOUR PRESIDENT doesn't have to coddle politicians He gets it done fast.
Of course He came at the tail end of the event. How else would one think it ended?
YOUR PRESIDENT said to stop the beating, the beating stopped, and the "event" ended.
Is English your first language?
Personal insult?
Quote: Maverick17Quote: ams288Those of us who don't drink the Orange Kool-Aid knew this was a fake "John Barron"-planted story. But for those naive enough to think otherwise:
Witness deflates Trump's claim that he stopped bat beating in 1991: 'He came at the tail end of the event'
When YOUR PRESIDENT wants something done, even in 1991, it gets done. And when YOUR PRESIDENT doesn't have to coddle politicians He gets it done fast.
Of course He came at the tail end of the event. How else would one think it ended?
YOUR PRESIDENT said to stop the beating, the beating stopped, and the "event" ended.
Drinking the Trump kool ade that he would run into a building unarmed to confront a shooter
Whats up with the caps?
You sound like a person outside the country referring to Trump as "YOUR PRESIDENT"
English 1st language? lol
Is Putin YOUR LEADER? Trump certainly considers "PUTIN IS MY LEADER"
Quote: terapinedQuote: Maverick17Quote: ams288Those of us who don't drink the Orange Kool-Aid knew this was a fake "John Barron"-planted story. But for those naive enough to think otherwise:
Witness deflates Trump's claim that he stopped bat beating in 1991: 'He came at the tail end of the event'
When YOUR PRESIDENT wants something done, even in 1991, it gets done. And when YOUR PRESIDENT doesn't have to coddle politicians He gets it done fast.
Of course He came at the tail end of the event. How else would one think it ended?
YOUR PRESIDENT said to stop the beating, the beating stopped, and the "event" ended.
Drinking the Trump kool ade that he would run into a building unarmed to confront a shooter
Whats up with the caps?
You sound like a person outside the country referring to Trump as "YOUR PRESIDENT"
English 1st language? lol
Is Putin YOUR LEADER? Trump certainly considers "PUTIN IS MY LEADER"
Why do I get the feeling that Obama was not HIS PRESIDENT?
Quote: gamerfreakQuote: terapinedQuote: Maverick17Quote: ams288Those of us who don't drink the Orange Kool-Aid knew this was a fake "John Barron"-planted story. But for those naive enough to think otherwise:
Witness deflates Trump's claim that he stopped bat beating in 1991: 'He came at the tail end of the event'
When YOUR PRESIDENT wants something done, even in 1991, it gets done. And when YOUR PRESIDENT doesn't have to coddle politicians He gets it done fast.
Of course He came at the tail end of the event. How else would one think it ended?
YOUR PRESIDENT said to stop the beating, the beating stopped, and the "event" ended.
Drinking the Trump kool ade that he would run into a building unarmed to confront a shooter
Whats up with the caps?
You sound like a person outside the country referring to Trump as "YOUR PRESIDENT"
English 1st language? lol
Is Putin YOUR LEADER? Trump certainly considers "PUTIN IS MY LEADER"
Why do I get the feeling that Obama was not HIS PRESIDENT?
I get the feeling Putin is " HIS LEADER"
Many liberals used to chant "NOT MY PRESIDENT" when referring to Trump. Maverick using all caps to remind people Trump actually is YOUR PRESIDENT (assuming you live in USA). As it turns out many liberals don't know any better.
Not all heroes wear capes.
Quote: RSI think I solved the mystery!
Many liberals used to chant "NOT MY PRESIDENT" when referring to Trump. Maverick using all caps to remind people Trump actually is YOUR PRESIDENT (assuming you live in USA). As it turns out many liberals don't know any better.
Not all heroes wear capes.
Not my President, Urine President.
Pee tape.
I have right wing uncles who said "not my President" about Obama many times and I never got my panties in a twist about it...
Just another right wing hypocrisy us liberals have to deal with in the age of Trump.
Quote: RSI think I solved the mystery!
Many liberals used to chant "NOT MY PRESIDENT" when referring to Trump. Maverick using all caps to remind people Trump actually is YOUR PRESIDENT (assuming you live in USA). As it turns out many liberals don't know any better.
Not all heroes wear capes.
I think I solved the mystery
Maverick does not use "MY PRESIDENT"
I have to assume Trump is not his President. Maybe Putin is YOUR LEADER, maverick lol
He is certainly Trumps LEADER